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2014-03-24 10:06:58 AM  
*shakes tiny fist in rage* Beat me by seconds. Fox and CNN had nothing on their website DESPITE airing live coverage of the damn announcement.
 
2014-03-24 10:10:46 AM  
Also, I'm waiting for the update to this. They're basing this new news on some experimental algorithm used to plot this new final course, and despite the fact they haven't even searched the specified area yet, they're announcing the plane is down in the ocean for sure. If they search the southern areas and don't find anything at all. Oh the shiat that's gonna hit the fan.
 
2014-03-24 10:11:37 AM  
traslation" "We have no idea WTF we are saying any more, so yeah, this sounds good"
 
2014-03-24 10:12:50 AM  
They are gonna feel silly if that plane shows up in Pakistan.
 
2014-03-24 10:13:29 AM  

strangeluck: Also, I'm waiting for the update to this. They're basing this new news on some experimental algorithm used to plot this new final course, and despite the fact they haven't even searched the specified area yet, they're announcing the plane is down in the ocean for sure. If they search the southern areas and don't find anything at all. Oh the shiat that's gonna hit the fan.


Of course it was down in the ocean. Only a complete moron would have thought otherwise.
 
2014-03-24 10:16:17 AM  
Thanks for making everyone think it was terrorists hijacking the plane and stealing it for future terroristic uses.

Dipshiat
 
2014-03-24 10:17:30 AM  

cretinbob: strangeluck: Also, I'm waiting for the update to this. They're basing this new news on some experimental algorithm used to plot this new final course, and despite the fact they haven't even searched the specified area yet, they're announcing the plane is down in the ocean for sure. If they search the southern areas and don't find anything at all. Oh the shiat that's gonna hit the fan.

Of course it was down in the ocean. Only a complete moron would have thought otherwise.


Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt the plane is in the ocean. It's the announcement that they finally know for sure which area it's in without having hard confirmation first.
 
2014-03-24 10:18:32 AM  

strangeluck: *shakes tiny fist in rage* Beat me by seconds. Fox and CNN had nothing on their website DESPITE airing live coverage of the damn announcement.


I think at this point they're so gun-shy of putting up something that will only need a retraction 30 seconds later.. Besides, when you've already got the viewers, you don't need the flashy (((NEWS ALERT))) banner, they ain't going anywhere.
 
2014-03-24 10:24:32 AM  

MisterTweak: strangeluck: *shakes tiny fist in rage* Beat me by seconds. Fox and CNN had nothing on their website DESPITE airing live coverage of the damn announcement.

I think at this point they're so gun-shy of putting up something that will only need a retraction 30 seconds later.. Besides, when you've already got the viewers, you don't need the flashy (((NEWS ALERT))) banner, they ain't going anywhere.


this has been the worst use of "breaking news", most exploitative maybe is more accurate....by the news industry since....forever?
 
2014-03-24 10:34:25 AM  
this one, i guess. whatever.
 
2014-03-24 10:51:59 AM  
I know what happened.
yeartwo.cinema52.com
 
2014-03-24 10:54:45 AM  

strangeluck: cretinbob: strangeluck: Also, I'm waiting for the update to this. They're basing this new news on some experimental algorithm used to plot this new final course, and despite the fact they haven't even searched the specified area yet, they're announcing the plane is down in the ocean for sure. If they search the southern areas and don't find anything at all. Oh the shiat that's gonna hit the fan.

Of course it was down in the ocean. Only a complete moron would have thought otherwise.

Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt the plane is in the ocean. It's the announcement that they finally know for sure which area it's in without having hard confirmation first.


Let's wait an hour for a different story.
 
2014-03-24 10:57:39 AM  
Probably one of the WORST places it could have went down from a search perspective.
 
2014-03-24 10:58:22 AM  
Al Queda might have an aircraft carrier...
 
Pud [TotalFark]
2014-03-24 11:11:44 AM  

IgG4: Al Queda might have an aircraft carrier...


They do, I hear it's off the coast of Iran.
 
2014-03-24 12:28:23 PM  

nekom: Probably one of the WORST places it could have went down from a search perspective.


This. It doesn't quite have the depth of the Mariana trench, but it has surface conditions not a hell of a lot better than the north sea.
 
2014-03-24 12:55:42 PM  

nekom: Probably one of the WORST places it could have went down from a search perspective.


CNBC, a bastion of journalistic integrity and in no way the propaganda arm of the ruling elite. And the plane went down in an area that is nigh impossible to search.

The scandal of boeinghazi is just beginning.
 
2014-03-24 12:56:02 PM  
d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net
Nailed it.
 
2014-03-24 01:04:34 PM  
We only need closure because the media was click-whoring since this plane went missing.
 
2014-03-24 01:13:40 PM  
So, they are basing the "its in the water" on the fact that 3/4 of the earth is covered by water?  Playing the safe odds I see.
 
2014-03-24 01:16:30 PM  
Newsflash?  TFA basically says "We confirm that the plane must be in the Indian Ocean, because we don't know where else it could be."  That's the gist of it, no?
 
2014-03-24 01:17:22 PM  
Yesterday, walking through a hotel lobby, I saw CNN was playing on a TV near the hotel bar. The caption for the story:

"HAS MEDIA COVERAGE OF FLIGHT 370 GONE TOO FAR?"

So, they've hit that part of the cycle. I came very close to making a left turn into the bar for a triple-shot of anything.
 
2014-03-24 01:22:06 PM  

BKITU: Yesterday, walking through a hotel lobby, I saw CNN was playing on a TV near the hotel bar. The caption for the story:

"HAS MEDIA COVERAGE OF FLIGHT 370 GONE TOO FAR?"

So, they've hit that part of the cycle. I came very close to making a left turn into the bar for a triple-shot of anything.


CNN's just trying to be edgy and meta.
 
2014-03-24 01:23:58 PM  
these are the same guys what lied, withheld information, misled and deceived us right?  And this is based on new evidence, right?

While the bottom of the Indian Ocean is the most likely fate of the plane, i am quite skeptical of the official conclusion.
 
2014-03-24 01:27:10 PM  

strangeluck: *shakes tiny fist in rage* Beat me by seconds. Fox and CNN had nothing on their website DESPITE airing live coverage of the damn announcement.


CNN is unwilling to admit this story will ever end.
 
2014-03-24 01:31:58 PM  

SlothB77: these are the same guys what lied, withheld information, misled and deceived us right?  And this is based on new evidence, right?

While the bottom of the Indian Ocean is the most likely fate of the plane, i am quite skeptical of the official conclusion.


There's every reason to be skeptical with regards to anything the Malaysian government says, but this is supposedly based on new calculations the British did on their satellite data.  Plus one of the pallets found had straps that were consistent with what would have been used on that plane.  That is by no means conclusive, but it does tend to suggest that it in fact did crash in the area.  Now how in the hell it GOT that far off course is the big mystery.
 
2014-03-24 01:53:10 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-24 01:57:32 PM  
Was it intentionally ditched into the sea or did it run on autopilot until it ran out of gas? We may never know.
 
2014-03-24 02:13:06 PM  

vernonFL: Was it intentionally ditched into the sea or did it run on autopilot until it ran out of gas? We may never know.


When we find the CVR and FDR, we'll know once the data is analyzed.  And we will find them, eventually.
 
2014-03-24 02:14:14 PM  

BKITU: Yesterday, walking through a hotel lobby, I saw CNN was playing on a TV near the hotel bar. The caption for the story:

"HAS MEDIA COVERAGE OF FLIGHT 370 GONE TOO FAR?"

So, they've hit that part of the cycle. I came very close to making a left turn into the bar for a triple-shot of anything.


You need an excuse to do shots?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-03-24 02:16:17 PM  
They've narrowed it down to one ocean so that's progress of a sort.
 
2014-03-24 02:17:33 PM  
When this first started, I turned to airliners.net.  Their forums are  have a large number of pilots and others in the aviation industry, and you have to pay a fee to post in the forums, keeping the "riff raff" away.   Or at least it was that way at the first.  All the latest info was posted to the threads, and you had real pilots who had flown 777's commenting on how things work.

Now it is mostly taken over by crazy conspiracy theorists.  People upset that Australia is letting other planes search the ocean, on the grounds that "suspect nations" are air-dropping debris into the water to mislead people, etc.
 
2014-03-24 02:34:19 PM  
Malaysia: We're pretty sure which hemisphere it landed in.

In seriousness, it seems that we're down to one of two scenarios: Pilot suicide in the Indian Ocean, or ghost plane crash in the Indian Ocean.
 
2014-03-24 02:41:54 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: Malaysia: We're pretty sure which hemisphere it landed in.

In seriousness, it seems that we're down to one of two scenarios: Pilot suicide in the Indian Ocean, or ghost plane crash in the Indian Ocean.


I'm thinking pilot suicide isn't very likely.  Why not just waste the other pilot, and nose it down into the drink?  Why keep flying until you reach roughly about where the plane is going to run out of gas anyway?

The *ONLY* possible way I can see that happening is if the pilot wants to make sure his heirs get paid their life insurance money, but I haven't heard anything about either of the two having severe financial difficulties or being depressed.
 
2014-03-24 02:45:00 PM  

dittybopper: The *ONLY* possible way I can see that happening is if the pilot wants to make sure his heirs get paid their life insurance money, but I haven't heard anything about either of the two having severe financial difficulties or being depressed.


The insurance money thing is compelling, although I don't know how you keep your copilot out of the cockpit for 7 hours. The day they find the black box will be absolute insanity for news junkies, the way this story has been handled with days and days of zero news.
 
2014-03-24 02:45:38 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: dittybopper: The *ONLY* possible way I can see that happening is if the pilot wants to make sure his heirs get paid their life insurance money, but I haven't heard anything about either of the two having severe financial difficulties or being depressed.

The insurance money thing is compelling, although I don't know how you keep your copilot out of the cockpit for 7 hours. The day they find the black box will be absolute insanity for news junkies, the way this story has been handled with days and days of zero news.


...although the whole decompression knockout theory is interesting.
 
2014-03-24 02:47:09 PM  

dittybopper: I'm thinking pilot suicide isn't very likely. Why not just waste the other pilot, and nose it down into the drink? Why keep flying until you reach roughly about where the plane is going to run out of gas anyway?

The *ONLY* possible way I can see that happening is if the pilot wants to make sure his heirs get paid their life insurance money, but I haven't heard anything about either of the two having severe financial difficulties or being depressed.


In addition to the insurance, there are various religious and cultural reasons the pilot (or co-pilot) might want to hide the fact that he committed a murder-suicide.  Crashing the plane in one of the most remote parts of the ocean would seem to be a good way of hiding any proof that is what he did.  If it was a suicide, I also tend to think he actually killed himself before the crash, leaving it to the auto pilot to take it to the middle of nowhere.
 
2014-03-24 02:51:14 PM  
When I first read the headline, I thought Abe Vigoda had finally died.
 
2014-03-24 02:51:28 PM  
www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com
 
2014-03-24 02:52:37 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-24 02:52:47 PM  

Go fish


Sciencedammit, I thought Abe Vigoda died, then realized the 'f' would have been capitalized.


Only then did I RTFA.
 
2014-03-24 02:52:50 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: The insurance money thing is compelling, although I don't know how you keep your copilot out of the cockpit for 7 hours. The day they find the black box will be absolute insanity for news junkies, the way this story has been handled with days and days of zero news.


He could wait for the co-pilot to leave to use the lavatory, and then depressurize the plane.  The air bags in the passenger compartment only offer a few minutes of air, and are worthless if he went up to 40k+ feet as early reports said the radar showed.
Security isn't very tight for air crews in Malaysia, he could have brought a weapon on-board with him.  He hands over control to the co-pilot, says he's getting up to do something, and then takes the co-pilot completely by surprise from behind.

Keep in mind, I'm not sold on the murder-suicide theory, but it seems the better fit to the data we have vs the mechanical failure that just happens to hit during the brief window between leaving Malaysian ATC and making contact with Vietnamese ATC. But I'm not ruling out or married to either.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-03-24 02:53:36 PM  
Were there any Americans on board?  Were any of them cute?  Were any of them blonde?

//Waiting for our local Indiana news to give me the "local angle," otherwise I don't give a shiat.
 
2014-03-24 02:54:20 PM  
I honestly thought Abe Vigoda died...
 
2014-03-24 02:54:37 PM  
This is not news.  It's still speculation.  And it will be such until they actually haul up a piece of the plane and show, "this is it."

This is really silly considering that it doesn't answer any of the questions people have. That's why people are so adamant about following the news.  We want to know HOW and WHY it ended up in the ocean.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-03-24 02:54:41 PM  

Rapmaster2000: [d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net image 559x366]
Nailed it.


That asshole is, like, Darth Vader-level evil.
 
2014-03-24 02:55:07 PM  
Plane landed at La Guardia airport.  No one noticed.
 
2014-03-24 02:55:08 PM  

d23: Were there any Americans on board?  Were any of them cute?  Were any of them blonde?

//Waiting for our local Indiana news to give me the "local angle," otherwise I don't give a shiat.


Well, they both share the same root word, so there's that.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-03-24 02:55:39 PM  

whither_apophis: I honestly thought Abe Vigoda died...


i2.cdn.turner.com

"I'll outlive YOU, jerkface!"
 
2014-03-24 02:55:44 PM  

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: dittybopper: I'm thinking pilot suicide isn't very likely. Why not just waste the other pilot, and nose it down into the drink? Why keep flying until you reach roughly about where the plane is going to run out of gas anyway?

The *ONLY* possible way I can see that happening is if the pilot wants to make sure his heirs get paid their life insurance money, but I haven't heard anything about either of the two having severe financial difficulties or being depressed.

In addition to the insurance, there are various religious and cultural reasons the pilot (or co-pilot) might want to hide the fact that he committed a murder-suicide.  Crashing the plane in one of the most remote parts of the ocean would seem to be a good way of hiding any proof that is what he did.  If it was a suicide, I also tend to think he actually killed himself before the crash, leaving it to the auto pilot to take it to the middle of nowhere.


Well, maybe the last one is a possibility, but he'd also have to have killed all the crew, and probably all the passengers.  Otherwise, someone is going to break into the cockpit after flying for hours and hours without any sight of land or lights, or communication from the pilots.

Plus, just flying an hour or two over the Indian Ocean would have made the crash site remote enough, and in deep enough water, to satisfy the requirement.
 
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