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(Opposing Views)   Mom who tried to teach her teen daughter how many people can see a picture once it's on the internet learns how many people can see a picture once it's on the internet   (opposingviews.com) divider line 223
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2014-03-24 09:19:37 AM
static1.fjcdn.com
/just to get that out of the way...
 
2014-03-24 09:39:21 AM
Alfie Kohn, author of Unconditional Parenting: Moving from Rewards and Punishments to Love and Reason, views public shaming as "counterproductive" and that it will "never achieve any result beyond temporary compliance, and it does so at a disturbing cost."


You don't say. Seems obvious that incidents like this are more about the moms trying to impress the other old cows in their facebook friends list than it is about changing childrens' behavior.
 
2014-03-24 09:50:16 AM
Rule number one, never hold up a sign in front of you and place it on the Internet.
 
2014-03-24 09:53:30 AM

phaseolus: Alfie Kohn, author of Unconditional Parenting: Moving from Rewards and Punishments to Love and Reason, views public shaming as "counterproductive" and that it will "never achieve any result beyond temporary compliance, and it does so at a disturbing cost."


You don't say. Seems obvious that incidents like this are more about the moms trying to impress the other old cows in their facebook friends list than it is about changing childrens' behavior.


On the other hand, I don't trust anyone who authors parenting books.

Seriously though, fark this biatch. You don't have to do this to prove a goddamn point. Attention whores be attention whores.
 
2014-03-24 09:54:43 AM

Solty Dog: Rule number one, never hold up a sign in front of you and place it on the Internet.


I thought Rule #1 was "Get a Brain, Morans"
 
2014-03-24 09:55:01 AM

phaseolus: You don't say. Seems obvious that incidents like this are more about the moms trying to impress the other old cows in their facebook friends list than it is about changing childrens' behavior.


Now I am in my 40's I see crap like this from women my age. Only problem is I remember the slutty shiat they did back in the day. Some of it with me. Sometimes it's kinda hard to not remind them of that time they drank too many wine coolers and sucked of so and so in front of everyone.
 
2014-03-24 09:56:08 AM
4chan users found Hudson's Facebook page, home address, and phone number. Hudson began receiving prank phone calls, and pizzas were delivered to her home.

Huh, this is by far the tamest thing 4chan has ever done.

A 4chan user also edited the photograph to include an alternate message that read, "Maybe you shouldn't use your daughter as an experiment to prove your point. Just an idea."

Witchery, I say!
 
msP
2014-03-24 10:06:10 AM
FTA: "Kira Hudson decided to teach her daughter a lesson about why she could not have a Facebook page or Instagram account by publicly shaming her in a picture.It did not go as planned."

Actually, I would say it went EXACTLY as planned.
 
2014-03-24 10:06:10 AM
How many times was her head 'shooped onto some naked chick's body?


/and does anybody have a link. for science?
 
2014-03-24 10:07:27 AM
So doesn't kind of prove the father's point?
 
2014-03-24 10:08:05 AM

give me doughnuts: How many times was her head 'shooped onto some naked chick's body?


/and does anybody have a link. for science?


Who wants to see a pixelated head on a naked body?

I prefer non pixelated head.
 
2014-03-24 10:08:38 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-24 10:08:54 AM
you have to be careful about riling up the internet mobs.
 
2014-03-24 10:09:29 AM
She done goofed.
 
2014-03-24 10:10:07 AM

CleanAndPure: give me doughnuts: How many times was her head 'shooped onto some naked chick's body?


/and does anybody have a link. for science?

Who wants to see a pixelated head on a naked body?

I prefer non pixelated head.


That this point in my life, I'll take any kind of head
 
2014-03-24 10:10:30 AM
She proved the exact point she set out to make. What's the problem?
 
2014-03-24 10:10:48 AM

sammyk: phaseolus: You don't say. Seems obvious that incidents like this are more about the moms trying to impress the other old cows in their facebook friends list than it is about changing childrens' behavior.

Now I am in my 40's I see crap like this from women my age. Only problem is I remember the slutty shiat they did back in the day. Some of it with me. Sometimes it's kinda hard to not remind them of that time they drank too many wine coolers and sucked of so and so in front of everyone.


I have to hold myself back almost any day I bother to check my facebook. I also remind myself that part of growing up is forgiving yourself for being a child.
 
2014-03-24 10:13:21 AM
Should have just hired a one-armed man.
 
2014-03-24 10:13:36 AM
who the fark still uses facebook?
 
2014-03-24 10:14:23 AM

sammyk: phaseolus: You don't say. Seems obvious that incidents like this are more about the moms trying to impress the other old cows in their facebook friends list than it is about changing childrens' behavior.

Now I am in my 40's I see crap like this from women my age. Only problem is I remember the slutty shiat they did back in the day. Some of it with me. Sometimes it's kinda hard to not remind them of that time they drank too many wine coolers and sucked of so and so in front of everyone.


Same here, I was having a conversation with an old friend, she was freaking out because her 17 year old was having sex and wanted birth control, I tried to remind her she was having sex at that same age.  Apparently the early 90s was a different time and it was OK to be a high school slut at that time.
 
2014-03-24 10:15:09 AM

ChipNASA: [i.imgur.com image 790x268]


Digg doesn't even get to be on the list anymore.
 
2014-03-24 10:15:24 AM

sammyk: phaseolus: You don't say. Seems obvious that incidents like this are more about the moms trying to impress the other old cows in their facebook friends list than it is about changing childrens' behavior.

Now I am in my 40's I see crap like this from women my age. Only problem is I remember the slutty shiat they did back in the day. Some of it with me. Sometimes it's kinda hard to not remind them of that time they drank too many wine coolers and sucked of so and so in front of everyone.


When you are young, you think you and your friends invented sex, drugs and rock-and-roll. When you are older, you forget that when you were young you thought you and your friends invented sex, drugs and rock-and-roll.

/It's not my joke, and I'm paraphrasing a bit, but the point is still valid.
 
2014-03-24 10:16:29 AM

Skyrmion: She done goofed.


consequences will never be the same!
 
2014-03-24 10:16:49 AM

OregonVet: [static1.fjcdn.com image 425x638]
/just to get that out of the way...


I doubt any of the farkers be crazy enough to visit that 14 year old :p
 
2014-03-24 10:17:16 AM

Tom_Slick: Same here, I was having a conversation with an old friend, she was freaking out because her 17 year old was having sex and wanted birth control, I tried to remind her she was having sex at that same age.  Apparently the early 90s was a different time and it was OK to be a high school slut at that time.


You know, "because we did it when we were that age" isn't really a good argument for or against anything.

I know a gal who was a virgin until she got married at 25, because she was born when her mother was 17. Sometimes people look at their experiences and decide that change is in order.
 
2014-03-24 10:17:45 AM
img.fark.net

Since it's on the Internet, I bet you can see it.
 
2014-03-24 10:17:50 AM

Tom_Slick: sammyk: phaseolus: You don't say. Seems obvious that incidents like this are more about the moms trying to impress the other old cows in their facebook friends list than it is about changing childrens' behavior.

Now I am in my 40's I see crap like this from women my age. Only problem is I remember the slutty shiat they did back in the day. Some of it with me. Sometimes it's kinda hard to not remind them of that time they drank too many wine coolers and sucked of so and so in front of everyone.

Same here, I was having a conversation with an old friend, she was freaking out because her 17 year old was having sex and wanted birth control, I tried to remind her she was having sex at that same age.  Apparently the early 90s was a different time and it was OK to be a high school slut at that time.


Is your friend "the 90's high school slut' hot?
 
2014-03-24 10:18:20 AM
I'm a bit confused at how this is "shaming."  She wanted an instagram account or whatever, and so he mom had her upload a pic with a sign that basically says "share this."  I don't think the kid was being shamed in the first place.

Yeah, the mom dun goof'd and ended up poking the 4chan hornet's nest but perhaps this will be a warning to the many about the permanence of electronic documentation of youthful (or not-so-youthful) indiscretion.
 
2014-03-24 10:18:47 AM

give me doughnuts: How many times was her head 'shooped onto some naked chick's body?


/and does anybody have a link. for science?


And before you cover the tiny bits with a picture of the Rock, let's see the original.
 
2014-03-24 10:19:15 AM

msP: Actually, I would say it went EXACTLY as planned.


I'd say the results were far better than expected. Why are people complaining?
 
2014-03-24 10:19:37 AM

dragyne: ChipNASA: [i.imgur.com image 790x268]

Digg doesn't even get to be on the list anymore.


Plus the threading makes Reddit unreadable by normal people, and 4chan is just not safe for sanity, so their argument is invalid.
 
2014-03-24 10:19:47 AM

ChipNASA: [i.imgur.com image 790x268]


Digg?  Is it 2008 again?
 
2014-03-24 10:21:19 AM
If she's smart, she'll release a second photo and message directed to 4chan, acknowledging 4chan's success and victory and apologizing for bothering them.

If Mom is really smart, she'll make a reference to not being able to show tits and thus will now GTFO of 4chan's line of sight.
 
2014-03-24 10:21:21 AM
Prank calls and pizza, I am sure there was a lot worse that wasn't reported.

There are people with damn good photo editing skills.
 
2014-03-24 10:21:46 AM
When the image went viral and ended up on 4chan, an image-based bulletin board, things took a turn for the worse.

That's a really unusual turn of events for things that wind up on 4chan.
 
2014-03-24 10:21:58 AM

Fubini: Tom_Slick: Same here, I was having a conversation with an old friend, she was freaking out because her 17 year old was having sex and wanted birth control, I tried to remind her she was having sex at that same age.  Apparently the early 90s was a different time and it was OK to be a high school slut at that time.

You know, "because we did it when we were that age" isn't really a good argument for or against anything.

I know a gal who was a virgin until she got married at 25, because she was born when her mother was 17. Sometimes people look at their experiences and decide that change is in order.


It is not an argument for or against. It is a reminder that teenagers are going to do what they want and when it comes to sex, parents need to help them not become teenage mothers.
 
2014-03-24 10:22:00 AM
it's funny how they ended up sending a bunch of pizzas to the wrong house, the wrath of 4chan!
 
2014-03-24 10:23:08 AM

ChipNASA: [i.imgur.com image 790x268]


OH DEAR LORD! That pic is so.f*cking.true!
 
2014-03-24 10:25:41 AM

dragyne: ChipNASA: [i.imgur.com image 790x268]

Digg doesn't even get to be on the list anymore.

Heck, even these famous old fogeys use Digg™.
(Watch it to the very end. Definitely do so in full screen 1080p HD if your display and connection can handle it.)
 
2014-03-24 10:26:28 AM
I have no kind words for parents like this. What she did as stupid and she's lucky that what came out of 4Chan was just changing the sign to shame mom.
 
2014-03-24 10:26:46 AM
so what she learned was : post pic on internet--> free pizza.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-03-24 10:27:30 AM
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

My god.. it's full of dumbasses.
 
2014-03-24 10:27:55 AM

factoryconnection: I'm a bit confused at how this is "shaming."  She wanted an instagram account or whatever, and so he mom had her upload a pic with a sign that basically says "share this."  I don't think the kid was being shamed in the first place.


Ditto.

I don't see any shame in it, I see an experiment in which the girl took part. She wasn't saying her daughter was bad, she was making a point about how far and wide stuff can spread and take on a whole life of its own. IMO, 4chan proved the mother's point on this one- once it hits the internet it belongs to the ages and others can do with it what they wish, even if it's fairly innocuous. Moreover, the harassment by the 4chan people shows that those with a significant internet presence are at the mercy of the least stable folks who can pull off a doxing on you. All it takes is one or two people with considerable internet research skills and no sense of boundaries and life gets a lot more interesting for you (and not in a good way).
 
2014-03-24 10:28:39 AM

Infernalist: If she's smart, she'll release a second photo and message directed to 4chan, acknowledging 4chan's success and victory and apologizing for bothering them.

If Mom is really smart, she'll make a reference to not being able to show tits and thus will now GTFO of 4chan's line of sight.


I hope that if I ever garner the attention of 4chan, that I know enough of their memes and lingo to demonstrate I shouldn't be the target of their wrath.

This is a vain hope.
 
2014-03-24 10:28:40 AM

Tricky Chicken: Tom_Slick: sammyk: phaseolus: You don't say. Seems obvious that incidents like this are more about the moms trying to impress the other old cows in their facebook friends list than it is about changing childrens' behavior.

Now I am in my 40's I see crap like this from women my age. Only problem is I remember the slutty shiat they did back in the day. Some of it with me. Sometimes it's kinda hard to not remind them of that time they drank too many wine coolers and sucked of so and so in front of everyone.

Same here, I was having a conversation with an old friend, she was freaking out because her 17 year old was having sex and wanted birth control, I tried to remind her she was having sex at that same age.  Apparently the early 90s was a different time and it was OK to be a high school slut at that time.

Is your friend "the 90's high school slut' hot?


If she's like any of the "90's high school sluts" I knew, probably not.
 
2014-03-24 10:28:52 AM

ChipNASA: [i.imgur.com image 790x268]


i.imgur.com
FTFY. Updated to represent the current life cycle.
 
2014-03-24 10:29:05 AM

Tricky Chicken: Tom_Slick: sammyk: phaseolus: You don't say. Seems obvious that incidents like this are more about the moms trying to impress the other old cows in their facebook friends list than it is about changing childrens' behavior.

Now I am in my 40's I see crap like this from women my age. Only problem is I remember the slutty shiat they did back in the day. Some of it with me. Sometimes it's kinda hard to not remind them of that time they drank too many wine coolers and sucked of so and so in front of everyone.

Same here, I was having a conversation with an old friend, she was freaking out because her 17 year old was having sex and wanted birth control, I tried to remind her she was having sex at that same age.  Apparently the early 90s was a different time and it was OK to be a high school slut at that time.

Is your friend "the 90's high school slut' hot?


She was in the 90s if you were into grunge chicks who wore flannel.
 
2014-03-24 10:29:37 AM
What precisely is wrong with "shaming"?
 
2014-03-24 10:30:42 AM

Tom_Slick: Tricky Chicken: Tom_Slick: sammyk: phaseolus: You don't say. Seems obvious that incidents like this are more about the moms trying to impress the other old cows in their facebook friends list than it is about changing childrens' behavior.

Now I am in my 40's I see crap like this from women my age. Only problem is I remember the slutty shiat they did back in the day. Some of it with me. Sometimes it's kinda hard to not remind them of that time they drank too many wine coolers and sucked of so and so in front of everyone.

Same here, I was having a conversation with an old friend, she was freaking out because her 17 year old was having sex and wanted birth control, I tried to remind her she was having sex at that same age.  Apparently the early 90s was a different time and it was OK to be a high school slut at that time.

Is your friend "the 90's high school slut' hot?

She was in the 90s if you were into grunge chicks who wore flannel.


Photographic evidence is required.
 
2014-03-24 10:30:46 AM
I'm refusing to click opposing views links. The last two times, I couldn't go 5 seconds before it tries to force me to download some crappy app they're advertising.
 
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