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(Daily Mail)   Father can't get school to help stop his son from being bullied does the logical thing. No, the other logical thing   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 318
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2014-03-24 09:01:32 AM  
He hired a tenth grader to beat up the bully?  Because that makes for one hell of a good viral video.
 
2014-03-24 09:37:22 AM  
Since the school and school district failed to act, I can see how this would be an option.

'What does that say? Every time you have a problem with somebody, you're just going to file a restraining order against somebody? This is the real world,' Stover said.

Back in the day if you got bullied, Dad would teach you how to fight.  You'd throw down with the bully once and that would usually be the end of it.  Nowadays, if a kid fights back they both get suspended...or eventually, the bullied kid just comes to the school with a gun and starts blasting away.

There really aren't a lot of legal options.
 
2014-03-24 09:45:11 AM  

slayer199: There really aren't a lot of legal options.


Yah, and schools are notorious for keeping things in-house. Getting the law involved really pisses them off. Wouldn't be surprised if they take it out on the poor little kid.
 
2014-03-24 09:56:19 AM  
Being the U.S., I'm surprised the dad didn't buy his kid a pistol to bring to school. An armed society is a polite blah blah blah
 
2014-03-24 09:57:52 AM  
The way I see it, a suspension from school is a small price to pay for knocking a bully down a peg.
 
2014-03-24 09:58:58 AM  
Local mother Lacie Stover said it sends out the wrong message.
'What does that say? Every time you have a problem with somebody, you're just going to file a restraining order against somebody? This is the real world,' Stover said.


I think we found the bully's mother.
 
2014-03-24 09:59:49 AM  
Local mother Lacie Stover needs to have her ass kicked a few days in a row,
so that she might gain some perspective on the matter.
 
2014-03-24 10:00:07 AM  

Solty Dog: The way I see it, a suspension from school is a small price to pay for knocking a bully down a peg.


Sure, if you actually end up beating up the bully.

Unfortunately life doesn't often reflect the movies, and most people are picked on because they're smaller/weaker than the bully. Add on that most bullies hang out in groups, so if you do happen to get a lucky shot in you're then being jumped by all his cronies.
 
2014-03-24 10:02:05 AM  

OregonVet: slayer199: There really aren't a lot of legal options.

Yah, and schools are notorious for keeping things in-house. Getting the law involved really pisses them off. Wouldn't be surprised if they take it out on the poor little kid.


Not any more. Schools now have "Liaison officers" who love to fill out police reports for anything they can. Little Johnny gets a police record when he fights the bully back, plus a suspension, while bully and his friends mostly get off scot free by intimidating any witnesses and work the system.

The schools don't want to do anything because they feel anything they do might impact their liability in the situation. The "right thing" isn't the same as the "proper thing" any more, and will get a school teacher or administrator in trouble.
 
2014-03-24 10:02:25 AM  
California again shows it cares so very very much.

Why didn't they just put up "NO bullying" signs. Signs solve everything.
 
2014-03-24 10:02:25 AM  
OK, I know this is the Daily Fail, but why the hell did they think we needed Lacie Stover's two cents on the matter?
 
2014-03-24 10:02:52 AM  
What kind of world do we live in where people are reduced to working within the established legal framework to settle disputes.  The horror.
 
2014-03-24 10:02:59 AM  

Hack Patooey: Local mother Lacie Stover said it sends out the wrong message.
'What does that say? Every time you have a problem with somebody, you're just going to file a restraining order against somebody? This is the real world,' Stover said.

I think we found the bully's mother.


Ding, Ding, Ding.
 
2014-03-24 10:03:44 AM  
Repeat greenlights make the baby Jeebus cry.
 
2014-03-24 10:04:16 AM  
'What does that say? Every time you have a problem with somebody, you're just going to file a restraining order against somebody? This is the real world,' Stover said.


I don't know, if someone bigger than me repeatedly put his hands on me I might file a restraining order. Seems like a "real world" solution to me.
 
2014-03-24 10:04:42 AM  
Local mother Lacie Stover said it sends out the wrong message.
'What does that say? Every time you have a problem with somebody, you're just going to file a restraining order against somebody? This is the real world,' Stover said.


I'm sure if Mr. Feuder punched Lacie in the face, she would feel the same way.  You know, being the "real world" and all.
 
2014-03-24 10:05:36 AM  
If the kid was really being bullied, good on the Father.  Unfortunately, I could see this type of scenario just inviting more bullying.
 
2014-03-24 10:05:57 AM  
I know my kid's schools have never taken any reports of bullying seriously, or done anything about it.  Well, they hand out those nifty "Don't Be A Bully" pencils, therefore, there is no bullying problem!  I've always told my son "Don't start anything, but you can finish it", and I'll stand up for him.  Fortunately he's a big kid, and pretty well liked.  And, ever since he was little (he's a sophomore now), no one around him dares make fun of a "special needs" kid.  He's kind of an "enforcer" for the bullied.

He should charge kids for that protection...
 
2014-03-24 10:05:58 AM  

Hack Patooey: Local mother Lacie Stover said it sends out the wrong message.
'What does that say? Every time you have a problem with somebody, you're just going to file a restraining order against somebody? This is the real world,' Stover said.

I think we found the bully's mother.


If she was the bully's mother, it would have at least had some relevance to the story.
 
2014-03-24 10:06:10 AM  
How can a bully go unpunished in the same administration that calls the police when concerned mothers fail to sign in before rushing to their distressed child, or that expels children for drawing army men in their notebooks?
 
2014-03-24 10:07:45 AM  
Send that kid a Roscoe Rules Birthday car when he turns 18.
Just a card with a .357 round in it letting him know he's an adult now.
And will be treated as such.

Or, wait until he's 18, and shanghai him off to Haiti. He can earn his way home. If they hire his blan ass to do any work.
 
2014-03-24 10:08:36 AM  
Why is this cool?

Come on, even you libs should think kids need to stand up for themselved. Police now for bullying.... No wonder kids are all screwed up.
 
2014-03-24 10:08:47 AM  
'It was my last resort, and I'm glad I did it,' he said.

Or you can grab the little shiat by the neck, slam his back up against a wall, and explain at him how things are going to get real very quickly if his attitude doesn't farking change real soon. Maybe something like this:

www.chroniclebooks.com

/although you'd need to do it in a deniable way
//parents like to sue for things like this for some reason
 
2014-03-24 10:08:54 AM  

slayer199: Back in the day if you got bullied, Dad would teach you how to fight. You'd throw down with the bully once and that would usually be the end of it. Nowadays, if a kid fights back they both get suspended...or eventually, the bullied kid just comes to the school with a gun and starts blasting away.


You get suspended for just being beat up nowadays.  I told my son that if someone starts a fight with him I expect him to finish it simply because you better get your money's worth for your impending suspension
 
2014-03-24 10:09:55 AM  

jst3p: 'What does that say? Every time you have a problem with somebody, you're just going to file a restraining order against somebody? This is the real world,' Stover said.


I don't know, if someone bigger than me repeatedly put his hands on me I might file a restraining order. Seems like a "real world" solution to me.


Exactly.  I don't know why people think it isn't serious when these things happen between kids, when if one adult did it to another adult he'd be facing jail time.
 
2014-03-24 10:10:57 AM  
Dear Lacie Stover,

I know it's tough, but keep your chin up.

i184.photobucket.com

...nevermind.
 
2014-03-24 10:10:58 AM  

PopularFront: What kind of world do we live in where people are reduced to working within the established legal framework to settle disputes.  The horror.


I've always thought that oe of the best lessons you can teach an asshole kid is to show him the adult consequences of his actions.
In the real world, people don't put up with "bullying" - they have your ass thrown in jail.
 
2014-03-24 10:11:51 AM  

jst3p: 'What does that say? Every time you have a problem with somebody, you're just going to file a restraining order against somebody? This is the real world,' Stover said.


I don't know, if someone bigger than me repeatedly put his hands on me I might file a restraining order. Seems like a "real world" solution to me.


yeah i thought a restraining order was a very "real world" solution to this type of problem
 
2014-03-24 10:14:39 AM  

Rickenbacker: I know my kid's schools have never taken any reports of bullying seriously, or done anything about it.  Well, they hand out those nifty "Don't Be A Bully" pencils, therefore, there is no bullying problem!  I've always told my son "Don't start anything, but you can finish it", and I'll stand up for him.  Fortunately he's a big kid, and pretty well liked.  And, ever since he was little (he's a sophomore now), no one around him dares make fun of a "special needs" kid.  He's kind of an "enforcer" for the bullied.

He should charge kids for that protection...


Yes teach your kid how to finish. Even if you lose, you win, because you're not a target. Unless there's expensive dental work required afterwards.

It worked for me. No bully wants to get into protracted fisticuffs. They want weaklings to push around.

The part I have trouble with is the online nastiness. Since I don't believe in putting my private life on the net, I don't understand what kids are actually doing.
 
2014-03-24 10:14:59 AM  

ThurmanMerman: jst3p: 'What does that say? Every time you have a problem with somebody, you're just going to file a restraining order against somebody? This is the real world,' Stover said.


I don't know, if someone bigger than me repeatedly put his hands on me I might file a restraining order. Seems like a "real world" solution to me.

Exactly.  I don't know why people think it isn't serious when these things happen between kids, when if one adult did it to another adult he'd be facing jail time.



Or dad coulda went all Bad Santa.

NSFW language:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUPCQ-Q_8Zk
 
2014-03-24 10:16:40 AM  
Bully + cronies = bronies.
 
2014-03-24 10:17:20 AM  
Should have done the only proper thing...

Sued the ever loving fark out of both the school and the other kid's parents.

/isn't that the American way?
 
2014-03-24 10:19:26 AM  
'Apparently the little boy ran around the track, came back and punched my son in the face,' Feuder told

oh man, imagine how much momentum was behind that punch!
 
2014-03-24 10:19:51 AM  
FTFA:  Stephen Feuder, of Fairfield, Sacramento

www.google.com


FAIL.

/about 45 miles apart
 
2014-03-24 10:21:00 AM  
FTA: "Feuder then went to the police and took out a restraining order against the little"

...what? The little... what?
GREAT NOW HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO SLEEP TONIGHT
 
2014-03-24 10:21:39 AM  

Molavian: Dear Lacie Stover,

I know it's tough, but keep your chin up.

[i184.photobucket.com image 634x442]

...nevermind.


niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice
 
2014-03-24 10:22:42 AM  

jso2897: PopularFront: What kind of world do we live in where people are reduced to working within the established legal framework to settle disputes.  The horror.

I've always thought that oe of the best lessons you can teach an asshole kid is to show him the adult consequences of his actions.
In the real world, people don't put up with "bullying" - they have your ass thrown in jail.


I wholeheartedly agree.  Even if it fails to address the problem you'll at least be able to show that you exhausted all the reasonable options before you did something drastic.
 
2014-03-24 10:23:20 AM  

Headso: 'Apparently the little boy ran around the track, came back and punched my son in the face,' Feuder told

oh man, imagine how much momentum was behind that punch!


lol
 
2014-03-24 10:23:24 AM  

Headso: 'Apparently the little boy ran around the track, came back and punched my son in the face,' Feuder told

oh man, imagine how much momentum was behind that punch!


"Oh, no, he's coming from so far away. He's picking up so much speed!"

media.tumblr.com

/STELIO!
//STELIO KONTOS!
 
2014-03-24 10:24:18 AM  

Headso: 'Apparently the little boy ran around the track, came back and punched my son in the face,' Feuder told

oh man, imagine how much momentum was behind that punch!


i dnrtfa
that...that there is HI-LARRY-US!
 
2014-03-24 10:24:54 AM  
You'd think with a name like Feuder, he would have come up with something more Hatfield and McCoy.
 
2014-03-24 10:25:27 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Headso: 'Apparently the little boy ran around the track, came back and punched my son in the face,' Feuder told

oh man, imagine how much momentum was behind that punch!

"Oh, no, he's coming from so far away. He's picking up so much speed!"

[media.tumblr.com image 220x147]

/STELIO!
//STELIO KONTOS!


GREEEEAAAAAT episode and nice reference
wish i could save gifs on this work computer
 
2014-03-24 10:25:46 AM  

bhcompy: slayer199: Back in the day if you got bullied, Dad would teach you how to fight. You'd throw down with the bully once and that would usually be the end of it. Nowadays, if a kid fights back they both get suspended...or eventually, the bullied kid just comes to the school with a gun and starts blasting away.

You get suspended for just being beat up nowadays.  I told my son that if someone starts a fight with him I expect him to finish it simply because you better get your money's worth for your impending suspension


I wish I had been given the same advice/support.  When I was bullied in middle school I was actually bigger than the guy.  My parents told me to never fight back, don't get in trouble and ISS in 6th grade will ruin your chances to get into college.  So I fruitlessly reported it to administration and endured it.

Lucky for me, he attacked me with a combination lock in gym class one day and went to jail for assault with a deadly weapon.  The system works!

/csb
 
2014-03-24 10:25:53 AM  

Thunderpipes: Why is this cool?

Come on, even you libs should think kids need to stand up for themselved. Police now for bullying.... No wonder kids are all screwed up.


The father could gun down the entire family of the bully as far as I'm concerned (I'm politically moderate that way....), but that probably isn't going to happen.  What do you suggest?  Beat up his dad?   Ask really nice?  Flamming dog pooh?  Burn his house down?  It's entirely possible and likely even that there is no way any amount of "learn ta fight boy!" is going to give him the leg up.  The school isn't going to be hip to concealed carry for the kid - damn "liberals"...(!)  This is the best thing.  It's possible the bully cannot go to school now.  The parents can enroll the anti-social POS in an alternate school where he might learn something about bullying.
 
2014-03-24 10:25:58 AM  
Aww, poor miss Lacie Stover. "This is the real world," she says. I agree. This is the real world, not the bizarro-land that is the public school system where  bullying carries no consequences but defending yourself is a punishable offense. I think this sets an excellent example to the bully and other children: That actions can and do have legal consequences. The school is unwilling to set the example that violence of this nature may carry a punishment, and so the restraining order is exactly the thing. And hey, maybe by time the bully is 18 and out of school, they'll have a respect for restraining orders and won't violate the one their inevitably battered ex girlfriend files.
 
2014-03-24 10:28:12 AM  
A real protective order has some bigger consequences than just a court order saying stop threatening, harming or harassing someone.  This kid may be barred from school, cannot travel on airlines, and cannot possess a firearm while this is in place.  Also, he now has a record, if not a criminal one.
 
2014-03-24 10:28:29 AM  
What does Lacie Stover suggest as the better solution?

The kid is likely smaller than his classmates, hence the reason he's getting the pulp beaten out of him.

The dad took the initial option and spoke to the school-- they did nothing.

If the kid doesn't want to get beat up anymore his only real options are to get some other kid to stand up for him or shoot up the school.  The dad chose an option more responsible than those.

Not so CSB: The kid across the street from me used to get the pulp beaten out of him on a weekly basis after the school bus dropped him off at the bus stop.  He didn't do anything to deserve it except being an easy target.  His parents talked to the school, and in a very typical fashion, they buried their heads in the sand saying, "LALALALA once he's off the bus its not our problem.  ALALALA I can't hear you."  The kid was basically defenseless on a daily basis.  Eventually his parents moved to a different school district and the kid acquainted to his new school much better.  Every time I hear a story about kids schooting up their school, I always think of that story.  I wouldn't expect him to do something like that, but i can completely see a scenario where someone feels so powerless that this seems a good option.  In a country where we pride ourselves on being able to defend ourselves, I'm surprised these stories seem so foreign to people.
 
2014-03-24 10:29:06 AM  
School faculty really do need to get lawyers dropped on top of them or nothing will get done about bullying. Don't hand me that horsesh*t about "Bullying is a normal part of being at school". It's not appropriate in the workplace, at home, or in the street, so why should it be tolerated in schools?
 
2014-03-24 10:31:13 AM  

slayer199: 'What does that say? Every time you have a problem with somebody, you're just going to file a restraining order against somebody? This is the real world,' Stover said.


Obviously, this stupid b*tch is the mother of a bully.
 
2014-03-24 10:32:56 AM  

Chris Ween: A real protective order has some bigger consequences than just a court order saying stop threatening, harming or harassing someone.  This kid may be barred from school, cannot travel on airlines, and cannot possess a firearm while this is in place.  Also, he now has a record, if not a criminal one.


Let me dig out the world's smallest violin and play a song for the little bully.
 
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