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(New York Daily News)   LA law school tells women to not dress like sluts, make sure the elevator is there when the doors open   (nydailynews.com) divider line 209
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2014-03-24 08:52:16 AM  
scriptwrecked.com
 
2014-03-24 08:56:05 AM  
Codpieces are still OK though.
 
2014-03-24 09:19:00 AM  
"There were no corresponding instructions for men."

Anyone that has ever worked in an office or seen an awards show on TV can tell you this.  Men wear suits, and have done so for a long, long time.  Womens' fashion, hemline and neckline trends ebb and flow.  Believe it or not, plenty of young professionals need to be taught how to dress after college.  I saw it in the military, whenever we'd start having junior officers first show up to evening study hours in civilian clothes or switch to summer uniform.  They'd need help clarifying what appropriate dress is, including "don't wear cheetah-print undies beneath your white uniform when teaching a class."  Yes that happened.  It is just much simpler with guys:  go buy suits; the person at the store will make sure it fits you before they ring you up.

Think about this: you're sending out a site-wide email to say that a meeting's dress level is "jacket and tie."  That's completely clear for men.  What do you say for the women, if not the cop-out "or equivalent for ladies" that is so tempting?  This law school's extern coordinator is being taken to task for being specific, although of course no where did they say "hooker heels."
 
2014-03-24 09:37:42 AM  
I wonder how many young men have been told not to wear jeans or ratty T-shirts?
 
2014-03-24 09:58:56 AM  
"Single female laaaaaaaaawyer...."

ginandbacon: I wonder how many young men have been told not to wear jeans or ratty T-shirts?


Um, you're told what the "uniform" consists of in law school day 1.  Everyone knows it.  It's a dark suit.  Women, especially younger women, sometimes need clarification about other things (blouses/shoes).  If you're giving all of the male lawyers boners while pissing off all of the older female lawyers, you're not enhancing the productivity of the office and you're not going to be invited back.

Further, other students from your school aren't going to be getting internships there in the future.  The dean was right to point this out.
 
2014-03-24 10:01:31 AM  
Oblig....

weknowmemes.com
 
2014-03-24 10:01:37 AM  

ginandbacon: I wonder how many young men have been told not to wear jeans or ratty T-shirts?


I would assume that if it was an issue it would be redressed. Pun.

Also, men's business fashion is static by and large; the cuts, lengths, etc do not change much in the overall scheme. What is appropriate for business is pretty much there. What is appropriate for clubbing is not appropriate for business, etc. Women have a lot more flexability in clothing options but sometimes may err on the over stated side.
 
2014-03-24 10:02:41 AM  
What if the guys were wearing hooker heels?
 
2014-03-24 10:07:27 AM  

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I always liked Dr Crusher better anyway.
 
2014-03-24 10:07:57 AM  
Gotta let a ho be a ho.
 
2014-03-24 10:15:16 AM  
Why can't women just wear suits?  What's so freaking difficult about that?

Or wear slacks/long skirt and a button up shirt...  And actually button it.  If a man walked around in an office looking like he's trying to score some digits with his gold medallion out, he'd be chastised.
 
2014-03-24 10:15:28 AM  
It's good advice.
 
2014-03-24 10:17:05 AM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: "Single female laaaaaaaaawyer...."

ginandbacon: I wonder how many young men have been told not to wear jeans or ratty T-shirts?

Um, you're told what the "uniform" consists of in law school day 1.  Everyone knows it.  It's a dark suit.  Women, especially younger women, sometimes need clarification about other things (blouses/shoes).  If you're giving all of the male lawyers boners while pissing off all of the older female lawyers, you're not enhancing the productivity of the office and you're not going to be invited back.

Further, other students from your school aren't going to be getting internships there in the future.  The dean was right to point this out.


www.lls.edu
 
2014-03-24 10:17:29 AM  

kroonermanblack: ginandbacon: I wonder how many young men have been told not to wear jeans or ratty T-shirts?

I would assume that if it was an issue it would be redressed. Pun.

Also, men's business fashion is static by and large; the cuts, lengths, etc do not change much in the overall scheme. What is appropriate for business is pretty much there. What is appropriate for clubbing is not appropriate for business, etc. Women have a lot more flexability in clothing options but sometimes may err on the over stated side.


I think it is an issue, but not in the way most people think. Sure, men have the suit uniform, and it's hard to screw that up. But they do. I see men wearing poorly fitted suits all the time. It looks unprofessional and cheap. There should be remedial classes in buying a good suit, because nobody knows how to do it anymore.
 
2014-03-24 10:19:24 AM  
You can't turn a Ho into a House Wife, but apparently they can be a lawyer.  But I repeat myself.
 
2014-03-24 10:19:49 AM  
They teach women common sense now? Good.
 
2014-03-24 10:20:04 AM  
I sure hope nobody posts pics of slutty looking office workers / librarians.
 
2014-03-24 10:20:58 AM  
I just wanted to say that's a great headline.
 
2014-03-24 10:20:58 AM  
But the real question is - can I still wear my "My Little Pony" backpack?
 
2014-03-24 10:22:06 AM  

ginandbacon: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: "Single female laaaaaaaaawyer...."

ginandbacon: I wonder how many young men have been told not to wear jeans or ratty T-shirts?

Um, you're told what the "uniform" consists of in law school day 1.  Everyone knows it.  It's a dark suit.  Women, especially younger women, sometimes need clarification about other things (blouses/shoes).  If you're giving all of the male lawyers boners while pissing off all of the older female lawyers, you're not enhancing the productivity of the office and you're not going to be invited back.

Further, other students from your school aren't going to be getting internships there in the future.  The dean was right to point this out.

[www.lls.edu image 300x225]


I know that's not a picture of a law school class b/c everyone is smiling there.  But really, we're talking about appropriate dress for the workplace, not class.  It's not the same thing.  Kids in law school dress like crap to go to class and no one bats an eye.
 
2014-03-24 10:24:38 AM  
Do bright law students really need to be told this?

"I really don't need to mention that cleavage and stiletto heels are not appropriate office wear [outside of ridiculous lawyer TV shows] do I? Yet I'm getting complaints from supervisors," said an email from the school that was obtained by legal news website

Evidently.
 
2014-03-24 10:25:35 AM  
I really don't care what my lawyer wears, just as long as she kicks ass and takes names.
Unfortunately, the judge and jury care.
Even though they need to be impartial.
Farked up legal system, eh?
 
2014-03-24 10:25:51 AM  

FTDA: You can't turn a Ho into a House Wife, but apparently they can be a lawyer.  But I repeat myself.


Boss'n it up.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-24 10:35:49 AM  

someonelse: kroonermanblack: ginandbacon: I wonder how many young men have been told not to wear jeans or ratty T-shirts?

I would assume that if it was an issue it would be redressed. Pun.

Also, men's business fashion is static by and large; the cuts, lengths, etc do not change much in the overall scheme. What is appropriate for business is pretty much there. What is appropriate for clubbing is not appropriate for business, etc. Women have a lot more flexability in clothing options but sometimes may err on the over stated side.

I think it is an issue, but not in the way most people think. Sure, men have the suit uniform, and it's hard to screw that up. But they do. I see men wearing poorly fitted suits all the time. It looks unprofessional and cheap. There should be remedial classes in buying a good suit, because nobody knows how to do it anymore.


Nothing suits me like a suit.
pandutzu.com
 
2014-03-24 10:36:15 AM  
Above the Law noted there were no corresponding dress guidelines for men.

That's because there isn't a corresponding problem with men. When we reach twenty years of half the new male lawyers showing up to work wearing black jeans and Ed Hardy shirts with the top four buttons open, then you can send a memo. Until then, STFU.

vudukungfu: I really don't care what my lawyer wears, just as long as she kicks ass and takes names.
Unfortunately, the judge and jury care.
Even though they need to be impartial.
Farked up legal system, eh?


Yeah, THAT'S what's wrong with the legal system. You nailed it.
 
2014-03-24 10:36:41 AM  
Since I was a but older than most of my fellow students, but not so old that I fell into the "Creepy old Guy" category (30)   somehow I ended up being the designated "tell people uncomfortable truths about themselves that SOMEBODY needed to tell them:" guy

This is why I was the one who had to tell a brilliant, (and frankly gorgeous) girl in my section that she could be the smartest lawyer ever born but NOBODY was going to take her seriously as long as we knew every day the cut and color of her underwear (low rise jeans were all the rage back them)

I also had to tell a pair of twin identical twin girls that, given how they already looked like they were only 15 (and had little girl voices) AT LEAST  they should stop dressing alike every day, taking all the same classes, and signing up for the exact same on-campus interviews, if they ever wanted to have any hope of getting hired by those firm.    I even bluntly told them that the rest of the section had begun noticing one of them had a boyfriend and the other didn't seem to, and openly speculating that the girls shared EVERYTHING.
 
2014-03-24 10:36:50 AM  

Publikwerks: What if the guys were wearing hooker heels?


I've been to several parties like that....
 
2014-03-24 10:36:54 AM  

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Just remember I'll never love you..
 
2014-03-24 10:36:57 AM  
And the difference between a lawyer and a hooker is?
 
2014-03-24 10:37:59 AM  

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: That's because there isn't a corresponding problem with men. When we reach twenty years of half the new male lawyers showing up to work wearing black jeans and Ed Hardy shirts with the top four buttons open, then you can send a memo. Until then, STFU.


But, but it's not EQUAL!
 
2014-03-24 10:38:01 AM  
Women who dress like sluts are objectified. No mystery there. So don't dress like a slut if you want respect.
 
2014-03-24 10:38:32 AM  

Magorn: I even bluntly told them that the rest of the section had begun noticing one of them had a boyfriend and the other didn't seem to, and openly speculating that the girls shared EVERYTHING.


Dear Penthouse......
 
2014-03-24 10:39:54 AM  
You don't have to dress like a slut to look hot in a dress..

img33.imageshack.us


actually it helps if you don't
 
2014-03-24 10:41:24 AM  
The problem is that women have a lot of different body types that require dressing differently, so the idea of a suit as a uniform doesn't work very well. Everyone can wear a suit, but the components of the suit may need to be drastically different, and that's where the problems arise. Plus, a lot of women want to be stylish but just aren't very good at it. But they see other stylish women, so they copy them. Dressing like someone from "The Good Wife" or the ADA's on "Law & Order" is a good plan. But then again, Gloria from "Modern Family" looks nice too... so maybe tomorrow...
 
2014-03-24 10:46:26 AM  

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: That's because there isn't a corresponding problem with men.


Do ill-fitting suits look unprofessional and sloppy?
 
2014-03-24 10:48:03 AM  

Splish: The problem is that women have a lot of different body types that require dressing differently, so the idea of a suit as a uniform doesn't work very well. Everyone can wear a suit, but the components of the suit may need to be drastically different, and that's where the problems arise.


img.fark.net
 
2014-03-24 10:48:32 AM  

Magorn: This is why I was the one who had to tell a brilliant, (and frankly gorgeous) girl in my section that she could be the smartest lawyer ever born but NOBODY was going to take her seriously as long as we knew every day the cut and color of her underwear (low rise jeans were all the rage back them)


You... you monster.  YOU RUINED IT!!!! I HATE YOU!
 
2014-03-24 10:49:05 AM  

stanwill2: And the difference between a lawyer and a hooker is?


Hookers are cheaper and more trustworthy?
 
2014-03-24 10:49:15 AM  
Sluts (of any gender) make live worth living.
 
2014-03-24 10:50:37 AM  

Magorn: I also had to tell a pair of twin identical twin girls that, given how they already looked like they were only 15 (and had little girl voices) AT LEAST  they should stop dressing alike every day, taking all the same classes, and signing up for the exact same on-campus interviews, if they ever wanted to have any hope of getting hired by those firm.    I even bluntly told them that the rest of the section had begun noticing one of them had a boyfriend and the other didn't seem to, and openly speculating that the girls shared EVERYTHING.


Except their phone numbers, with me.
 
2014-03-24 10:50:42 AM  

Magorn: I even bluntly told them that the rest of the section had begun noticing one of them had a boyfriend and the other didn't seem to, and openly speculating that the girls shared EVERYTHING


WTF?  Do you realize that by saying that, you may have been cock-blocking that boyfriend from a threesome with twins?  Shame!

;)
 
2014-03-24 10:52:09 AM  
Memos are for passive aggressive people. I prefer communicating through cube pranks.

"You shouldn't dress like a slut if you didn't want everything on your desk replaced with cardboard equivalents from Staples."
 
2014-03-24 10:52:17 AM  

someonelse: Splish: The problem is that women have a lot of different body types that require dressing differently, so the idea of a suit as a uniform doesn't work very well. Everyone can wear a suit, but the components of the suit may need to be drastically different, and that's where the problems arise.

[img.fark.net image 624x426]


Think about how much more of a loaf Rob Ford would look like in a novelty t-shirt and cargo shorts.
 
2014-03-24 10:52:22 AM  

ginandbacon: I wonder how many young men have been told not to wear jeans or ratty T-shirts?


I think all of them. Yeah, every single one.
 
2014-03-24 10:54:02 AM  
So are we going dresses?

img33.imageshack.us


or women in business formal?

img89.imageshack.us

/limited number of women in business formal.
//love me some women in business formal
 
2014-03-24 10:54:33 AM  

someonelse: Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: That's because there isn't a corresponding problem with men.

Do ill-fitting suits look unprofessional and sloppy?


You're really trying to hard here. Poorly fitting (in your opinion) clothes don't represent the same issue.
 
2014-03-24 10:55:28 AM  

Splish: The problem is that women have a lot of different body types that require dressing differently, so the idea of a suit as a uniform doesn't work very well. Everyone can wear a suit, but the components of the suit may need to be drastically different, and that's where the problems arise. Plus, a lot of women want to be stylish but just aren't very good at it. But they see other stylish women, so they copy them. Dressing like someone from "The Good Wife" or the ADA's on "Law & Order" is a good plan. But then again, Gloria from "Modern Family" looks nice too... so maybe tomorrow...


imageshack.com

That slut.
 
2014-03-24 10:59:06 AM  

stanwill2: And the difference between a lawyer and a hooker is?


abovethelaw.com

None. there is no difference.

/obscure unless you read Abovethelaw
 
2014-03-24 11:02:29 AM  
oops my bad, let's try this again:

So are we going dresses?
img41.imageshack.us

or women in business formal?

img843.imageshack.us

/limited number of women in business formal.
//love me some women in business formal
 
2014-03-24 11:02:38 AM  

someonelse: Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: That's because there isn't a corresponding problem with men.

Do ill-fitting suits look unprofessional and sloppy?


Yes, they do.  However, no one is complaining about ill-fitting.  If a man showed up in:
A bowling shirt
An Ed Hardy shirt
A t-shirt
A flannel shirt
Jeans
Shorts
Flip flops
Thigh-high boots
A batman costume
A codpiece
With their underwear showing

They would get chewed out.  And rightfully so.

/I may have taken un unrealistic turn somewhere around flip flops.  Sorry.
 
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