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(Huffington Post)   Australians and Chinese spot possible plane wreckage, this is not a repeat from any point in the last 2 weeks   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 68
    More: Followup, Chinese, Indian Ocean, Tony Blinken, operations officer, chinese foreign ministry, Australian Navy, U.S. Pacific Command, Hong Lei  
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2014-03-24 08:02:54 AM
Dude, just let it go cause, man, it's gone.
 
2014-03-24 08:06:29 AM
Obligatory ancient aliens reference!
 
2014-03-24 08:08:55 AM
These kidnappers are never going to get a ransom if they never speak up.
 
2014-03-24 08:10:51 AM
It could have taken one of two arcs, one north, one south, right? So why isn't anyone looking at the arc to the north?
 
2014-03-24 08:11:21 AM
Technically yes, it is.
 
2014-03-24 08:12:06 AM
That's exactly what expect us to do!
 
2014-03-24 08:13:04 AM
Where's Waldo?
 
2014-03-24 08:14:28 AM

Wolf892: Snarky allusion to Lost!


Picture from "The Langoliers"!
 
2014-03-24 08:14:51 AM
God forbid they include the plane's pics of the debris, so we can speculate appropriately.
 
2014-03-24 08:15:37 AM
www.chicagonow.com
 
2014-03-24 08:15:38 AM

kimwim: It could have taken one of two arcs, one north, one south, right? So why isn't anyone looking at the arc to the north?


because we haven't spotted "debris" in otherwise remote and uninhabited water where debris doesn't flow up north?
 
2014-03-24 08:20:20 AM
At this point they should just say:

"Oh we found some debris, that's it.  Most of the plane sunk.  No survivors. Bye!"
 
2014-03-24 08:21:59 AM
So we're supposed to trust convicts and communists on this?
 
2014-03-24 08:22:42 AM

OtherLittleGuy: Wolf892: Snarky allusion to Lost!

Picture from "The Langoliers"!


Airplane! reference.
 
2014-03-24 08:22:56 AM
i think the lesson here is that there is more garbage floating around the world's oceans than we thought there was.
 
2014-03-24 08:26:49 AM

MugzyBrown: At this point they should just say:

"Oh we found some debris, that's it.  Most of the plane sunk.  No survivors. Bye!"


The only credible piece of debris has disappeared somewhere near the Cook Islands.

brightlightsfilm.com

It'll turn up in about 2 weeks
 
2014-03-24 08:27:02 AM

SlothB77: i think the lesson here is that there is more garbage floating around the world's oceans than we thought there was.


And much of it bears a resemblance to aircraft parts
 
2014-03-24 08:29:06 AM
The Party Boys damn near made it.
i1280.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-24 08:29:07 AM

SlothB77: i think the lesson here is that there is more garbage floating around the world's oceans than we thought there was.


They could train pilots by using Naples harbor.

Look a pallet,  another pallet, another pallet, another pallet,  a 24ft object,  another pallet, a stack of pallets,  a broken pallet....
 
2014-03-24 08:31:38 AM
CNN has posted footage of the latest discovery.

www.geekjosh.com
 
2014-03-24 08:32:13 AM

SeaMan Stainz:


Everyone who flies, knows someone who flies or lives near any flight path has a very real safety concern here. Also, anyone who invests in Boeing, any airliner, or any company that invests in any such company has a financial concern. The 777 is a very commonly used aircraft, and without knowing the cause of this it's impossible to say whether or not every single aircraft in the fleet is susceptible to the same issue.
 
2014-03-24 08:32:58 AM
Well, Boeinghazi has gone silent the past couple of days; turns out the guy saw a black van in his neighborhood and decided to go motel hopping to escape Obama's goons. COULD THIS BE RELATED???

/study it out!
///pretty sure that site's a hoax...
 
2014-03-24 08:35:37 AM
That's lovely and all, but WTF did the plane fly there? Surely that's nearly as important as where it is?
 
2014-03-24 08:35:38 AM

SlothB77: i think the lesson here is that there is more garbage floating around the world's oceans than we thought there was.

www.localphilosophy.com
 
2014-03-24 08:36:56 AM
I bet if they find an actual plane wreckage that's it's going to be the wrong one.
 
2014-03-24 08:40:34 AM

GDubDub: God forbid they include the plane's pics of the debris, so we can speculate appropriately.



They did on my morning news.

The same satellite pictures they've been showing.
 
2014-03-24 08:41:00 AM

MustTryHarder: That's lovely and all, but WTF did the plane fly there? Surely that's nearly as important as where it is?


Theory is that the plane could have suffered decompression and oxygen supply failed, leading to everyone being unconscious and the plane autopilot flying whatever direction they were heading until it was out of fuel.

It's unclear if the plane was equipped with a deadman alert system.
 
2014-03-24 08:41:32 AM

That Guy What Stole the Bacon: Well, Boeinghazi has gone silent the past couple of days; turns out the guy saw a black van in his neighborhood and decided to go motel hopping to escape Obama's goons. COULD THIS BE RELATED???

/study it out!
///pretty sure that site's a hoax...


There was discussion in a fark thread a few days ago about setting up a Boeinghazi site. I guess someone did.
 
2014-03-24 08:43:13 AM

kimwim: It could have taken one of two arcs, one north, one south, right? So why isn't anyone looking at the arc to the north?


The northern one is primarily over land, so....

1. It isn't as time critical to find it. Even if you do nothing, eventually the thing will turn up on its own.
2. You have a much greater likelyhood that if it went down on that route, someone would have seen it.
3. Since that land belongs to various countries, it isn't as simple to get a dozen other countries to start flying around in its airspace looking for things.

The bigger issue here is lets say this is debris from the plane. Its been 3 weeks. Even if you have very accurate currents information for that area of the world and you can tie it back to where it probably drifted from, your search area which you now need to go back and start looking for the pinger from is still going to be huge. There are so many variables to try and sort out to trace it back to an impact point its nuts.

I'd be surprised if at the end of this week, the parties involved don't just go, "ahh, fark it" and throw their hands up and just wait for stuff to start drifting on to shore.
 
2014-03-24 08:43:30 AM
FTL: "Australians, Chinese Spot Objects In Indian Ocean"

Yeah, they're called boats.
 
2014-03-24 08:47:13 AM
Eps05

MustTryHarder: That's lovely and all, but WTF did the plane fly there? Surely that's nearly as important as where it is?


Theory is that the plane could have suffered decompression and oxygen supply failed, leading to everyone being unconscious and the plane autopilot flying whatever direction they were heading until it was out of fuel.

It's unclear if the plane was equipped with a deadman alert system.



Well technically they weren't dead so I guess if it was, it worked.

I have nothing to really contribute to this conversation.
 
2014-03-24 08:47:15 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: SlothB77: i think the lesson here is that there is more garbage floating around the world's oceans than we thought there was.

And much of it bears a resemblance to aircraft parts


"One object was circular and grey or green, and the other rectangular and orange, Australian PM Tony Abbott said.
The two objects were different, he said, from several white, square-shaped objects spotted earlier by Chinese military planes."

Sounds pretty conclusive to me.
 
2014-03-24 08:48:25 AM
Its a streetlight that was washed into the sea during a tsunami.
 
2014-03-24 08:52:06 AM

Rhino_man: SeaMan Stainz:

Everyone who flies, knows someone who flies or lives near any flight path has a very real safety concern here. Also, anyone who invests in Boeing, any airliner, or any company that invests in any such company has a financial concern. The 777 is a very commonly used aircraft, and without knowing the cause of this it's impossible to say whether or not every single aircraft in the fleet is susceptible to the same issue.


That's great and all, but these articles are all bullshiat and have no bearing on the finding of the plane. I guess if you need to be distracted by shiny things until they find any actual evidence, I stand corrected.
 
2014-03-24 08:56:39 AM

SeaMan Stainz: Rhino_man: SeaMan Stainz:

Everyone who flies, knows someone who flies or lives near any flight path has a very real safety concern here. Also, anyone who invests in Boeing, any airliner, or any company that invests in any such company has a financial concern. The 777 is a very commonly used aircraft, and without knowing the cause of this it's impossible to say whether or not every single aircraft in the fleet is susceptible to the same issue.

That's great and all, but these articles are all bullshiat and have no bearing on the finding of the plane. I guess if you need to be distracted by shiny things until they find any actual evidence, I stand corrected.


I'm really understanding the hate the "cool kids" on the internet have over this story. Yea, there isn't a hell of a lot to report other than, "nope, haven't found anything yet", but even that is, in and of itself, interesting.

Should we stop reporting on Syria until someone wins? Don't talk about the economy until the next stock market crash or everyone is billionaires?

I mean its a god damn giant plane with a couple hundred people on it, that just pretty much vanished. Thats pretty farking interesting and worthy of at least a daily, "so here is what we know\don't know" story.
 
2014-03-24 09:00:40 AM
The plane.
 
2014-03-24 09:01:02 AM

Sean M: So we're supposed to trust convicts and communists on this?


Those are drunken convicts and greedy communists, buddy boy.
 
2014-03-24 09:01:32 AM

LineNoise: SeaMan Stainz: Rhino_man: SeaMan Stainz:

Everyone who flies, knows someone who flies or lives near any flight path has a very real safety concern here. Also, anyone who invests in Boeing, any airliner, or any company that invests in any such company has a financial concern. The 777 is a very commonly used aircraft, and without knowing the cause of this it's impossible to say whether or not every single aircraft in the fleet is susceptible to the same issue.

That's great and all, but these articles are all bullshiat and have no bearing on the finding of the plane. I guess if you need to be distracted by shiny things until they find any actual evidence, I stand corrected.

I'm really understanding the hate the "cool kids" on the internet have over this story. Yea, there isn't a hell of a lot to report other than, "nope, haven't found anything yet", but even that is, in and of itself, interesting.

Should we stop reporting on Syria until someone wins? Don't talk about the economy until the next stock market crash or everyone is billionaires?

I mean its a god damn giant plane with a couple hundred people on it, that just pretty much vanished. Thats pretty farking interesting and worthy of at least a daily, "so here is what we know\don't know" story.


Because that's exactly what the coverage on this story has been like.
 
2014-03-24 09:04:13 AM
 it's about time someone found Amelia Earhart.
 
2014-03-24 09:08:11 AM
WILLLLLLLLLLLLSON!!!!???
 
2014-03-24 09:09:00 AM
Is this a snipe hunt?  "It's there...no, there...no, there.  I swear I saw the shadow of a shape in the form of an object, two hours ago, right over there.  Well, maybe next time...THERE!"
 
2014-03-24 09:11:39 AM

kimwim: It could have taken one of two arcs, one north, one south, right? So why isn't anyone looking at the arc to the north?


'Cuz Thai raidar saw it turn back south.
 
2014-03-24 09:12:31 AM
radar, rather.
 
2014-03-24 09:14:51 AM
Malaysian Press Conference scheduled for 10P MYT (10a ET).  Does that mean they found it?
 
2014-03-24 09:22:33 AM
Still scares the poo out of me. The "ghost plane" idea of the pilot and passengers being incapacitated by loss of oxygen, and the vastness of the sea which they are searching. That debris could turn out to be nothing and it could never be found.
 
2014-03-24 09:23:55 AM

kev_dog: Malaysian Press Conference scheduled for 10P MYT (10a ET).  Does that mean they found it?


It means there might be a press conference between 7p and 2a someday in the next week.
 
2014-03-24 09:24:54 AM
I'm not an NTSB accident investigator, but I did watch Air Disasters straight through this weekend.

Short of foul play or someone deliberately turning off the transponder, a full engine failure could result in the transponder losing power regardless.

Even if the plane has an auxiliary power unit, they can take minutes to start up and actually provide sufficient power to critical systems.

In the case study I'm basing this off of, the plane did not receive enough fuel from ground crews due to a simple standard/metric conversion calculation.

/Holiday Inn
 
2014-03-24 09:29:24 AM

Wrath of Heaven: I'm not an NTSB accident investigator, but I did watch Air Disasters straight through this weekend.


Check out "Seconds from disaster".  They don't do exclusively air disasters but it's a damned interesting series.
 
2014-03-24 09:37:32 AM

Eps05: MustTryHarder: That's lovely and all, but WTF did the plane fly there? Surely that's nearly as important as where it is?

Theory is that the plane could have suffered decompression and oxygen supply failed, leading to everyone being unconscious and the plane autopilot flying whatever direction they were heading until it was out of fuel.

It's unclear if the plane was equipped with a deadman alert system.


Unclear who gets alerted, the dead men on the plane or the people on the ground?  Either way, nobody's going to be able to do anything, except update the arrival information to "Likely, not soon, or even here".
 
2014-03-24 09:38:00 AM
This could be it, "this could be wreckage or this could be maritime trash... "

I'm guessing it's trash
 
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