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2014-03-24 09:45:08 AM
Final Destination only. No items.
 
2014-03-24 10:03:42 AM
Like old madden Vick vs Vick
 
2014-03-24 10:19:49 AM
Soccer is a game for children and third-world people.
 
2014-03-24 11:12:35 AM
Wow.  Gaming technology sure has come a long way.  I couldn't tell the difference between that game and real socczzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
 
2014-03-24 11:17:33 AM

Nemo's Brother: Soccer is a game for children and third-world people.


Baseball is a child's game. All the footballs, soccer, NFL, rugby and etc, are tactically driven games that kids can't fully understand.

/a youth soccer game looks like a blob of children chasing a ball up and down the pitch with no discernible positions, formation or strategy
//a youth baseball game plays exactly like an adult game except the ball doesn't get hit as far and the players don't move as fast
 
2014-03-24 11:24:42 AM
i.chzbgr.com
 
2014-03-24 11:36:19 AM
Goddamnit here I am again unable to comment in a three day old thread that looked to have an interesting conversation cut short. I call on other farkers to continue conversations in arbitrarily wrong threads until this policy is changed. Re: "anime style art featuring a female wrestler": the origins of hammerspace extend back as far as looney toones, and was lifted in much the same way anime eyes pull from old disney art. And although the trope existed in various forms, pertaining to ranma back in 92 or so is when I first heard it called by that name.
 
2014-03-24 11:43:37 AM
img842.imageshack.us
 
2014-03-24 12:54:54 PM
You'll see all your favorite soccer stars. Like Adiaga! Adiaga two! Badiaga! Aruglia! And Pizzoza!
 
2014-03-24 01:06:10 PM

manwithplanx: Nemo's Brother: Soccer is a game for children and third-world people.

Baseball is a child's game. All the footballs, soccer, NFL, rugby and etc, are tactically driven games that kids can't fully understand.

/a youth soccer game looks like a blob of children chasing a ball up and down the pitch with no discernible positions, formation or strategy
//a youth baseball game plays exactly like an adult game except the ball doesn't get hit as far and the players don't move as fast


Stop it, you'll confuse him!
 
2014-03-24 01:19:37 PM
Who the hell is Ronaldo?
 
2014-03-24 01:24:50 PM

Skleenar: You'll see all your favorite soccer stars. Like Adiaga! Adiaga two! Badiaga! Aruglia! And Pizzoza!


Ties? Oh you betcha!
 
2014-03-24 01:54:10 PM

RockofAges: manwithplanx: Nemo's Brother: Soccer is a game for children and third-world people.

Baseball is a child's game. All the footballs, soccer, NFL, rugby and etc, are tactically driven games that kids can't fully understand.

/a youth soccer game looks like a blob of children chasing a ball up and down the pitch with no discernible positions, formation or strategy
//a youth baseball game plays exactly like an adult game except the ball doesn't get hit as far and the players don't move as fast

Soccer is running and kicking a ball. Not a lot of strategy involved, just physical conditioning. Baseball is actually a much more strategic game than soccer is, by far. You don't see too many soccer players sporting a gut, to be fair, but baseball is eminently more strategic by nature. A pitcher alone has several clear strategic options available to him, and game dynamics are far more interesting and paced.

I don't buy your argument at all. A professional soccer game is little different from a child's soccer game, simply make the field a lot larger and give the kids bigger limbs and more practice. In professional baseball they usually don't have to pull out the tee, stand the ball on it, and allow the kids to take turns missing entirely.


Really? Baseball is strategic?

ONE person has 2-4 options (please don't correct me, I don't care and it's hyperbole).

The rest are purely reactive. Hit ball, catch ball, throw ball. You can be sexually excited by whatever the fark you want but on paper baseball is about as far from exciting as cricket (one of the most watched sports in the world, thanks India!).

I see strategy in boxing or MMA or football, even hockey. Not so much baseball.
 
2014-03-24 01:54:20 PM

2chris2: Who the hell is Ronaldo?


LOLOLOL You are so funny and cool and hip.

Is that what you wanted?
 
2014-03-24 02:03:30 PM

RockofAges: manwithplanx: Nemo's Brother: Soccer is a game for children and third-world people.

Baseball is a child's game. All the footballs, soccer, NFL, rugby and etc, are tactically driven games that kids can't fully understand.

/a youth soccer game looks like a blob of children chasing a ball up and down the pitch with no discernible positions, formation or strategy
//a youth baseball game plays exactly like an adult game except the ball doesn't get hit as far and the players don't move as fast

Soccer is running and kicking a ball. Not a lot of strategy involved, just physical conditioning. Baseball is actually a much more strategic game than soccer is, by far. You don't see too many soccer players sporting a gut, to be fair, but baseball is eminently more strategic by nature. A pitcher alone has several clear strategic options available to him, and game dynamics are far more interesting and paced.

I don't buy your argument at all. A professional soccer game is little different from a child's soccer game, simply make the field a lot larger and give the kids bigger limbs and more practice. In professional baseball they usually don't have to pull out the tee, stand the ball on it, and allow the kids to take turns missing entirely.



Not a lot of strategy? Let me guess you don't understand the tactics and strategy and therefore don't believe it exists.

Formations in football are complex things depending on your own team and the other one. Will a 4-4-2 work best or a 3-2-3-2? Will your opposition pack the midfield so you need to go 4-5-1 to prevent your own midfield being overrun or can you exploit the that by bypassing the midfield with a 4-4-1-1 target man up front.

Do you defend zonal or man to man? Do you let the opposition play the ball in their own half or do you press them no matter where there are?

The strategies are complex and fluid, much more difficult to see and understand than the static tactics in baseball and American football but they are there.
 
2014-03-24 02:11:36 PM

2chris2: Who the hell is Ronaldo?


Check your GF/Wifes jerk stash.
 
2014-03-24 02:23:59 PM
Shows you have pointless most skill moves are.  The only one really worth using is roulette and even then it's stupid.
 
2014-03-24 02:24:25 PM

RockofAges: manwithplanx: Nemo's Brother: Soccer is a game for children and third-world people.

Baseball is a child's game. All the footballs, soccer, NFL, rugby and etc, are tactically driven games that kids can't fully understand.

/a youth soccer game looks like a blob of children chasing a ball up and down the pitch with no discernible positions, formation or strategy
//a youth baseball game plays exactly like an adult game except the ball doesn't get hit as far and the players don't move as fast

Soccer is running and kicking a ball. Not a lot of strategy involved, just physical conditioning. Baseball is actually a much more strategic game than soccer is, by far. You don't see too many soccer players sporting a gut, to be fair, but baseball is eminently more strategic by nature. A pitcher alone has several clear strategic options available to him, and game dynamics are far more interesting and paced.

I don't buy your argument at all. A professional soccer game is little different from a child's soccer game, simply make the field a lot larger and give the kids bigger limbs and more practice. In professional baseball they usually don't have to pull out the tee, stand the ball on it, and allow the kids to take turns missing entirely.


2.bp.blogspot.com

Here are four different 4-3-3 formations. What differences would you expect to see in the play style of each formation? If you were facing any one of these what formation would you employ and what would your attack look like?

For bonus points what position in each of these formations will see the ball the most, play the most passes, etc?
 
2014-03-24 02:27:15 PM

manwithplanx: Here are four different 4-3-3 formations. What differences would you expect to see in the play style of each formation? If you were facing any one of these what formation would you employ and what would your attack look like?

For bonus points what position in each of these formations will see the ball the most, play the most passes, etc?


Depends.  Which side is Mexico and which is Portugal?
 
2014-03-24 02:49:26 PM

Norfolking Chance: Formations in football are complex things depending on your own team and the other one. Will a 4-4-2 work best or a 3-2-3-2? Will your opposition pack the midfield so you need to go 4-5-1 to prevent your own midfield being overrun or can you exploit the that by bypassing the midfield with a 4-4-1-1 target man up front.

Do you defend zonal or man to man? Do you let the opposition play the ball in their own half or do you press them no matter where there are?

The strategies are complex and fluid, much more difficult to see and understand than the static tactics in baseball and American football but they are there.


Because there are varied strategies doesn't mean they're very complex.

US Football's strategies are very complex.  Simple thought experiment:  If you took Messi off of Barcelona and plopped him on Stoke City.  Do you think it would take him a long time to be able to play effectively (exclusive of the sudden lack of talent around him)

Baseball is nothing but strategy from manager & pitcher & fielders vs batter.  It's not complex, but it is very strategic.

You can boil every sport down to intricate details to make it sound as complex as you did soccer.
 
2014-03-24 02:59:39 PM
The games are as exciting as their real-world counterparts. So they're boring as hell?
 
2014-03-24 03:10:40 PM

RockofAges: Well, first I would grow some testicles larger than a hen's egg. That would preclude me from being a soccer fan. Step two would probably be to crack a beer and laugh at your attempt to make soccer look like it's anything more than slow hockey without contact.


There's usually multiple slide tackles and collisions every game that send people flying, but that's not why people care about soccer. Nobody complains about baseball's lack of contact. What I don't like about baseball is its length compared to how much action is in a game. A game of baseball will last, on average, nearly 3 hours. That's 3 hours filled with commercials, pitchers taking their sweet time and batters leaving the box so they can be sure they practiced their swing enough. A regular soccer game will last 2 hours at most. Two 45m halves separated by a 15m break with a little time added on at the end of halves to make up for any time spent waiting for the ball to come back into play. There are commercials during halftime, before and after the game. Is it really all that surprising that people would want to watch a game that has two 45m blocks of non-stop action?

/Football games are also jam packed with commercials and are long as hell, but the contact and short bursts of incredible action are much more entertaining to me than watching a ball bounce off a bat.
 
2014-03-24 03:17:13 PM

manwithplanx: /Football games are also jam packed with commercials and are long as hell, but the contact and short bursts of incredible action are much more entertaining to me than watching a ball bounce off a bat.


People watch sports for different reasons.

I'm not a huge baseball fan, but baseball has extreme tension in it when it's a critical game.

The offensive team can score on every single pitch...that's potentially 250 scoring chances per game.  Compared to a soccer match where the ball is in a truely threatening position for maybe 10 minutes of the 90.

There's no time limit for a trailing team to come back.  You could be down to your last out, down by 5 and still have a chance.  If you're down 3-0 in soccer anywhere in the 2nd half you're pretty much dead.

/I like soccer too.
 
2014-03-24 03:19:13 PM

Russ1642: The games are as exciting as their real-world counterparts. So they're boring as hell?


...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *snort!* huh? what?
 
2014-03-24 03:26:44 PM

MugzyBrown: manwithplanx: /Football games are also jam packed with commercials and are long as hell, but the contact and short bursts of incredible action are much more entertaining to me than watching a ball bounce off a bat.

People watch sports for different reasons.

I'm not a huge baseball fan, but baseball has extreme tension in it when it's a critical game.

The offensive team can score on every single pitch...that's potentially 250 scoring chances per game.  Compared to a soccer match where the ball is in a truely threatening position for maybe 10 minutes of the 90.

There's no time limit for a trailing team to come back.  You could be down to your last out, down by 5 and still have a chance.  If you're down 3-0 in soccer anywhere in the 2nd half you're pretty much dead.

/I like soccer too.


Oh I know the good parts of baseball and I get into it if my brother and father are making me watch a game, I just don't like how long it takes compared to what I get out of it. I agree about the comeback potential for soccer compared to baseball. I had to turn off the stream on Saturday because Arsenal went down 2-0 within the first 10 minutes, then a player was sent off for handball 5m later. At that point there's just no game

/that game ended 6-0
//silly wenger keeps playing a high line against teams that are great on the counter
 
2014-03-24 03:48:28 PM
Fifa 95 where I would take a forward from "Brazil" up along the sidelines, diagonal up to the goal and score.

Every damn time.
 
2014-03-24 04:01:29 PM
RockofAges:
Soccer is running and kicking a ball. Not a lot of strategy involved, just physical conditioning. Baseball is actually a much more strategic game than soccer is, by far. You don't see too many soccer players sporting a gut, to be fair, but baseball is eminently more strategic by nature. A pitcher alone has several clear strategic options available to him, and game dynamics are far more interesting and paced.

And curling is fare more strategic than baseball, which doesn't matter as noone cares about either.
 
2014-03-24 04:17:26 PM

Gosling: Final Destination only. No items.


Almost. You forgot to ban all characters except Fox.
 
2014-03-24 04:58:36 PM

RockofAges: manwithplanx: Nemo's Brother: Soccer is a game for children and third-world people.

Baseball is a child's game. All the footballs, soccer, NFL, rugby and etc, are tactically driven games that kids can't fully understand.

/a youth soccer game looks like a blob of children chasing a ball up and down the pitch with no discernible positions, formation or strategy
//a youth baseball game plays exactly like an adult game except the ball doesn't get hit as far and the players don't move as fast

Soccer is running and kicking a ball. Not a lot of strategy involved, just physical conditioning.


Dude, I seriously hope your trolling....because there's a site I'd direct you to.
 
2014-03-24 05:33:47 PM

manwithplanx: RockofAges: manwithplanx: Nemo's Brother: Soccer is a game for children and third-world people.

Baseball is a child's game. All the footballs, soccer, NFL, rugby and etc, are tactically driven games that kids can't fully understand.

/a youth soccer game looks like a blob of children chasing a ball up and down the pitch with no discernible positions, formation or strategy
//a youth baseball game plays exactly like an adult game except the ball doesn't get hit as far and the players don't move as fast

Soccer is running and kicking a ball. Not a lot of strategy involved, just physical conditioning. Baseball is actually a much more strategic game than soccer is, by far. You don't see too many soccer players sporting a gut, to be fair, but baseball is eminently more strategic by nature. A pitcher alone has several clear strategic options available to him, and game dynamics are far more interesting and paced.

I don't buy your argument at all. A professional soccer game is little different from a child's soccer game, simply make the field a lot larger and give the kids bigger limbs and more practice. In professional baseball they usually don't have to pull out the tee, stand the ball on it, and allow the kids to take turns missing entirely.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 640x387]

Here are four different 4-3-3 formations. What differences would you expect to see in the play style of each formation? If you were facing any one of these what formation would you employ and what would your attack look like?

For bonus points what position in each of these formations will see the ball the most, play the most passes, etc?


static.guim.co.uk
Just kick it up the middle and run after it, you farking coont.
 
2014-03-24 06:54:07 PM

Argyle82: 2chris2: Who the hell is Ronaldo?

LOLOLOL You are so funny and cool and hip.

Is that what you wanted?


Some of us aren't from the third world.
 
2014-03-24 07:12:26 PM

MugzyBrown: Norfolking Chance: Formations in football are complex things depending on your own team and the other one. Will a 4-4-2 work best or a 3-2-3-2? Will your opposition pack the midfield so you need to go 4-5-1 to prevent your own midfield being overrun or can you exploit the that by bypassing the midfield with a 4-4-1-1 target man up front.

Do you defend zonal or man to man? Do you let the opposition play the ball in their own half or do you press them no matter where there are?

The strategies are complex and fluid, much more difficult to see and understand than the static tactics in baseball and American football but they are there.

Because there are varied strategies doesn't mean they're very complex.

US Football's strategies are very complex.  Simple thought experiment:  If you took Messi off of Barcelona and plopped him on Stoke City.  Do you think it would take him a long time to be able to play effectively (exclusive of the sudden lack of talent around him)

Baseball is nothing but strategy from manager & pitcher & fielders vs batter.  It's not complex, but it is very strategic.

You can boil every sport down to intricate details to make it sound as complex as you did soccer.


Your confusing strategy with micro-managing.

Do you think the beating Arsenal took this weekend was a fluke? Jose Mourinho knew what the most likley Arsenal teams would be, what formations they would play and made sure he had strategies to counter every one. Strategies that he drilled into every player for days on end to make sure they knew exactly what they should do and when they should do it. They walked away 6-0 winners not because of luck, not because of the ref, they walked away 6-0 because the strategies employed was built to humiliate Arsene Wenger

If Messi was dropped into the current Stoke team he would score indavidual goals because he is the best player of his generation but he wouldn't get any were near the top scorers until he and the teams tactics and strategies changed. Once he and the team are on the same page he would run rampant through the EPL.

It is much easier to see the startegy in American football and baseball because of the stop start nature of it. When you get three or four replays of the same 5 or 10 seconds of action you can see what the coaches are trying to do. Football doesn't have the wall to wall replays of the slightest bit of action so its much harder to see what is going on but it is there if you know what to look for.
 
2014-03-24 10:09:09 PM

Trocadero: manwithplanx: RockofAges: manwithplanx: Nemo's Brother: Soccer is a game for children and third-world people.

Baseball is a child's game. All the footballs, soccer, NFL, rugby and etc, are tactically driven games that kids can't fully understand.

/a youth soccer game looks like a blob of children chasing a ball up and down the pitch with no discernible positions, formation or strategy
//a youth baseball game plays exactly like an adult game except the ball doesn't get hit as far and the players don't move as fast

Soccer is running and kicking a ball. Not a lot of strategy involved, just physical conditioning. Baseball is actually a much more strategic game than soccer is, by far. You don't see too many soccer players sporting a gut, to be fair, but baseball is eminently more strategic by nature. A pitcher alone has several clear strategic options available to him, and game dynamics are far more interesting and paced.

I don't buy your argument at all. A professional soccer game is little different from a child's soccer game, simply make the field a lot larger and give the kids bigger limbs and more practice. In professional baseball they usually don't have to pull out the tee, stand the ball on it, and allow the kids to take turns missing entirely.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 640x387]

Here are four different 4-3-3 formations. What differences would you expect to see in the play style of each formation? If you were facing any one of these what formation would you employ and what would your attack look like?

For bonus points what position in each of these formations will see the ball the most, play the most passes, etc?

[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]
Just kick it up the middle and run after it, you farking coont.


That made me lol
 
2014-03-24 10:28:30 PM

duffblue: Argyle82: 2chris2: Who the hell is Ronaldo?

LOLOLOL You are so funny and cool and hip.

Is that what you wanted?

Some of us aren't from the third world.


Some of us don't troll soccer threads because our life sucks.
 
2014-03-24 11:00:31 PM

Argyle82: duffblue: Argyle82: 2chris2: Who the hell is Ronaldo?

LOLOLOL You are so funny and cool and hip.

Is that what you wanted?

Some of us aren't from the third world.

Some of us don't troll soccer threads because our life sucks.



Seriously, though, as an American, I haven't the slightest idea who "Ronaldo" is, or if this person is well known.
 
2014-03-24 11:28:42 PM

2chris2: Argyle82: duffblue: Argyle82: 2chris2: Who the hell is Ronaldo?

LOLOLOL You are so funny and cool and hip.

Is that what you wanted?

Some of us aren't from the third world.

Some of us don't troll soccer threads because our life sucks.


Seriously, though, as an American, I haven't the slightest idea who "Ronaldo" is, or if this person is well known.


You basically went into an NFL thread and asked "Who's Brady?"
 
2014-03-25 12:13:56 AM

2chris2: Seriously, though, as an American, I haven't the slightest idea who "Ronaldo" is, or if this person is well known.


He's well known at being one of the best at soccer's most important play... flopping.
 
2014-03-25 12:44:38 AM

RockofAges: In professional baseball they usually don't have to pull out the tee, stand the ball on it, and allow the kids to take turns missing entirely.


That would make baseball infinitely more watchable.
 
2014-03-25 04:18:48 AM

evilmousse: Goddamnit here I am again unable to comment in a three day old thread that looked to have an interesting conversation cut short. I call on other farkers to continue conversations in arbitrarily wrong threads until this policy is changed. Re: "anime style art featuring a female wrestler": the origins of hammerspace extend back as far as looney toones, and was lifted in much the same way anime eyes pull from old disney art. And although the trope existed in various forms, pertaining to ranma back in 92 or so is when I first heard it called by that name.


yes
 
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