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(Telegraph)   Putin: "Hey, Moldova. That's a nice breakaway region you have there, it would be a shame if someone annexed it by force"   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 151
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2014-03-24 08:18:22 AM  
Moldova: "Hey Putin, no need to be rough. We want you to take us" *spreads legs*
 
2014-03-24 09:34:14 AM  
"I pray for the return of the Soviet Union," she says. "Putin gives us hope. He is reuniting the Soviet Union."

I am sure the LGTB community of Transdniester just can't wait to be part of Russia the Soviet Union.  They must miss all those beatings.
 
2014-03-24 09:42:11 AM  

SlothB77: "I pray for the return of the Soviet Union," she says. "Putin gives us hope. He is reuniting the Soviet Union."

I am sure the LGTB community of Transdniester just can't wait to be part of Russia the Soviet Union.  They must miss all those beatings.


I totally read that as Transgender. Damn, LGBT community, warping mah brain wit impure tauts!
 
2014-03-24 09:43:51 AM  
Color me surprised.
 
2014-03-24 09:44:44 AM  
Putin is taking over the world!  Des Moines, Iowa, you're next!

/poor soil there
 
2014-03-24 09:44:57 AM  
"After the collapse of the USSR, Transdniester, a strip of land sandwiched between Moldova and Ukraine, declared its independence from Moldova. A brief civil war followed in 1992, eventually ending in an awkward stalemate.
In its 23-year existence, Transdniester has not been recognised by any other nation on the planet. Even Russia, which has stationed about 1,000 soldiers there since the end of the civil war, has failed to recognise it."

So the nation that broke away from Moldova 23 years ago, and wants to be part of Russia, might become part of Russia?

img3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-03-24 09:46:01 AM  
All it needs is one highly-placed Russian official to decide: you know, a successful Valkyrie-type attempt early in Hitler's career would have saved a whole lot of Russian lives.
 
2014-03-24 09:47:03 AM  
That's unpossible. I've been assured by Fark's lefty brigade that the Crunea abbé action was a clear and total victory for the rest of the world, because that albatross would completely shut down the Russian economy and drag them down for years to come, while the oligarchs put the brakes on any further external ambitions Putin (who is absolutely worshiped by all Republicans) may have harbored.
 
2014-03-24 09:48:28 AM  
 
2014-03-24 09:48:40 AM  

croesius: "After the collapse of the USSR, Transdniester, a strip of land sandwiched between Moldova and Ukraine, declared its independence from Moldova. A brief civil war followed in 1992, eventually ending in an awkward stalemate.
In its 23-year existence, Transdniester has not been recognised by any other nation on the planet. Even Russia, which has stationed about 1,000 soldiers there since the end of the civil war, has failed to recognise it."

So the nation that broke away from Moldova 23 years ago, and wants to be part of Russia, might become part of Russia?

[img3.wikia.nocookie.net image 353x132]


Ever since the collapse of the USSR, Russia has ignored the fact that millions of their citizens were in other neighboring countries, wanting to come home again.  They actively worked to keep those Russian citizens in other countries because it's just politically useful to have a good reason to invade your neighbors.  Like protecting your own citizens that you put there and kept there.
 
2014-03-24 09:49:32 AM  

croesius: "After the collapse of the USSR, Transdniester, a strip of land sandwiched between Moldova and Ukraine, declared its independence from Moldova. A brief civil war followed in 1992, eventually ending in an awkward stalemate.
In its 23-year existence, Transdniester has not been recognised by any other nation on the planet. Even Russia, which has stationed about 1,000 soldiers there since the end of the civil war, has failed to recognise it."

So the nation that broke away from Moldova 23 years ago, and wants to be part of Russia, might become part of Russia?

[img3.wikia.nocookie.net image 353x132]


Except they have to go through what's left of Ukraine to get there.  You know who else wanted to reunite land that had been separated from them 23 years earlier?  Actually, kinda eerie that the timelines match up.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-24 09:57:47 AM  
Moldova is a total sh*thole- it's the poorest country in Europe and was ranked the unhappiest country in the world. Men have to move to other countries to find jobs, and many of the women are used for human trafficking. I'd rather be part of Russia too.
 
2014-03-24 09:58:15 AM  
The West probably gives even less a shiat about Transnistria and Moldova than it does Crimea and Ukraine. It may provoke more sanctions, but it's still not enough to get the tanks rolling, -unless- Russia stormed through Odessa to do it, but I doubt that would even be necessary.
 
2014-03-24 09:59:24 AM  
It's okay, we actually know how to find land wars in Europe.
 
2014-03-24 10:00:24 AM  
He really does have super villain fantasies, doesn't he.

/maniacal laugh
//maniacal laugh
 
2014-03-24 10:01:07 AM  

verbaltoxin: It's okay, we actually know how to find land wars in Europe.


FIGHT land wars. ffs.

/I should start drinking coffee.
 
2014-03-24 10:02:37 AM  

verbaltoxin: It's okay, we actually know how to find land wars in Europe.


www.zealoptics.com

Relieved to hear it.
 
2014-03-24 10:04:49 AM  

ciberido: verbaltoxin: It's okay, we actually know how to find land wars in Europe.

[www.zealoptics.com image 640x480]

Relieved to hear it.


I deserved that.
 
2014-03-24 10:05:43 AM  
Some asshole said I was a Neocon for opposing Putin's military expansion.


Am I still a Neocon for thinking Putin is a bad guy with expansionist aims?
 
2014-03-24 10:06:47 AM  

TheGregiss: Some asshole said I was a Neocon for opposing Putin's military expansion.


Am I still a Neocon for thinking Putin is a bad guy with expansionist aims?


No, you're a realist.

Though, at this point, it's far more prudent and effective to wage economic warfare rather than physical warfare.
 
2014-03-24 10:08:09 AM  
TheGregiss:   Am I still a Neocon for thinking Putin is a bad guy with expansionist aims?

img.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-24 10:11:56 AM  

Okieboy: Putin is taking over the world!  Des Moines, Iowa, you're next!

/poor soil there


You know what Stewart? I like you. You're not like the other people here, in the trailer park.
 
2014-03-24 10:12:03 AM  

sweetmelissa31: Moldova is a total sh*thole- it's the poorest country in Europe and was ranked the unhappiest country in the world. Men have to move to other countries to find jobs, and many of the women are used for human trafficking. I'd rather be part of Russia too.


Pretty much. Its like the worst part of africa asking to join the usa.
 
2014-03-24 10:13:02 AM  
The Russians need lebensraum.
 
2014-03-24 10:15:18 AM  

TheGregiss: The Russians need lebensraum.


They have that in abundance... this isn't Germany where 20 people have to live in the area of a sardine can.

Each Russian has 20 national parks in his back yard. Huge country...
 
2014-03-24 10:16:23 AM  
So, I should cross Moldova off my list of EU countries to visit?


/doesn't sound very touristy.
 
2014-03-24 10:17:33 AM  

sweetmelissa31: Men have to move to other countries to find jobs, and many of the women are used for human trafficking


i.imgur.com

"Moldova, Moldova, you very nice place"
 
2014-03-24 10:18:25 AM  

CleanAndPure: TheGregiss: The Russians need lebensraum.

They have that in abundance... this isn't Germany where 20 people have to live in the area of a sardine can.

Each Russian has 20 national parks in his back yard. Huge country...


Russia doesn't need breathing room, it needs a buffer zone.

Russians have some ingrained terror of being invaded.  Especially by Germany.  And to the Russian mind, the best way to keep themselves safe is to put as much room between themselves and their enemies.  That's why they had the Iron Curtain and the Soviet Bloc nations as a big buffer zone between them and NATO.

That's why they freak out when their neighbors want to get cozy and comfy with the West.  They see no buffer between them and enemy armies bearing down on Moscow.
 
2014-03-24 10:18:39 AM  

raerae1980: So, I should cross Moldova off my list of EU countries to visit?


/doesn't sound very touristy.


If Moldova is on your list of EU countries to visit (for fun), I would question your taste as well as the source of information you're using for EU countries.
 
2014-03-24 10:21:56 AM  
That old woman is by far not the only person in former Soviet states who prays for the return of communism and the USSR.  It is a sentiment widely held by, in some cases, majority populations of former member states.  Very few areas that were once part of the Union were suddenly improved by its absence, or the absence of communism.  A lot of people went from a predictable, livable "poverty" (as described by people who have an abundance of things they don't need) to a chaotic, miserable existence with no certainties, no help and not even an illusion of humanity from the people supposedly leading them.  Those with plenty in the West certainly don't give a damn, and the only time these former Soviet states come up in consideration is when they might be used as a tool by an old enemy to gain marginally more territory or power.

These people want to rejoin Russia, yet the article speaks of "fears" that they will be taken by the Russians.  What fears?  Fears that, as I said, Russia might gain some slight improvement in position on the chess board of the world.  The article is more horseshiat propaganda to make people fear and hate Russia.
 
2014-03-24 10:23:47 AM  
 
2014-03-24 10:24:22 AM  
img.fark.net

Ukraine to the north, Moldova to the south. OK, you can join Russia. Just don't expect any supplies to come in.
 
2014-03-24 10:24:49 AM  
Does Moldova have oil?
 
2014-03-24 10:25:15 AM  
Putin will probably let things simmer down a bit and build up his most recent victory. I'm guessing Russia will try to take back more land sometime in the next 2 years. They need to do it while we have a president that thinks things like this shouldn't be happening in the world just because he's obama. They can't take a chance that old thunder calf hillary gets elected. I'm sure the "let's elect a v-jay jay this time" campaign will be strong from the dems. But Putin can't take the chance of America electing an actual leader with abilities and one that doesn't leave our friends hanging in the winds of world affairs. Way to support the Ukraine barry, they asked for help stopping an aggressive country splitting land grab and you sent dehydrated food.
 
2014-03-24 10:27:34 AM  

Pattuq: That old woman is by far not the only person in former Soviet states who prays for the return of communism and the USSR.  It is a sentiment widely held by, in some cases, majority populations of former member states.  Very few areas that were once part of the Union were suddenly improved by its absence, or the absence of communism.  A lot of people went from a predictable, livable "poverty" (as described by people who have an abundance of things they don't need) to a chaotic, miserable existence with no certainties, no help and not even an illusion of humanity from the people supposedly leading them.  Those with plenty in the West certainly don't give a damn, and the only time these former Soviet states come up in consideration is when they might be used as a tool by an old enemy to gain marginally more territory or power.

These people want to rejoin Russia, yet the article speaks of "fears" that they will be taken by the Russians.  What fears?  Fears that, as I said, Russia might gain some slight improvement in position on the chess board of the world.  The article is more horseshiat propaganda to make people fear and hate Russia.


Not uncommon in the former GDR
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/homesick-for-a-dictators hi p-majority-of-eastern-germans-feel-life-better-under-communism-a-63412 2.html

I have to say I was a bit surprised when I met some Germanys who agreed with that position, especially after West Germany almost bankrupted themselves trying to get the standard of living in those Staaten to that of the west.
 
2014-03-24 10:27:58 AM  

Launch Code: They can't take a chance that old thunder calf hillary gets elected. I'm sure the "let's elect a v-jay jay this time" campaign will be strong from the dems. But Putin can't take the chance of America electing an actual leader with abilities and one that doesn't leave our friends hanging in the winds of world affairs.


so not hillary, then?
 
2014-03-24 10:29:55 AM  

Pattuq: That old woman is by far not the only person in former Soviet states who prays for the return of communism and the USSR. It is a sentiment widely held by, in some cases, majority populations of former member states. Very few areas that were once part of the Union were suddenly improved by its absence, or the absence of communism. A lot of people went from a predictable, livable "poverty" (as described by people who have an abundance of things they don't need) to a chaotic, miserable existence with no certainties, no help and not even an illusion of humanity from the people supposedly leading them. Those with plenty in the West certainly don't give a damn, and the only time these former Soviet states come up in consideration is when they might be used as a tool by an old enemy to gain marginally more territory or power.


Fortunately, many of those countries west of Russia are still mainly populated by those who survived Stalin's purges and the rest who want to return to Russia are the carpetbaggers who replaced them.

These are people who loved Communism so much they embraced Hitler. Because Hitler at least promised to exterminate them tomorrow instead of today.
 
2014-03-24 10:31:05 AM  
I've been to Moldova, Its not as bad as you all are making it seem.
 
2014-03-24 10:36:04 AM  

croesius: So the nation that broke away from Moldova 23 years ago, and wants to be part of Russia, might become part of Russia?


Well "nation" is a bit wrong strong. And as for "wants to", do you mean everybody? Or a large majority? A small majority? How big a vote does it take to strip some land, plus all the investments that the rest of the country made in that strip, and give them to another country?

sweetmelissa31: Moldova is a total sh*thole- it's the poorest country in Europe and was ranked the unhappiest country in the world. Men have to move to other countries to find jobs, and many of the women are used for human trafficking. I'd rather be part of Russia too.


Yes, because becoming part of Russia will make that so much better.
 
2014-03-24 10:36:08 AM  
Once again, Putin The Global Chessmaster is on the move!  Soon, he'll be posing shirtless in front of the Eiffel Tower!   This is all on Obama.
 
2014-03-24 10:37:28 AM  

redmid17: raerae1980: So, I should cross Moldova off my list of EU countries to visit?


/doesn't sound very touristy.

If Moldova is on your list of EU countries to visit (for fun), I would question your taste as well as the source of information you're using for EU countries.


Fark should have a sarcasm button.
 
2014-03-24 10:38:10 AM  
Transnistria sounds like a perfect match for Putin, actually.
 
2014-03-24 10:38:46 AM  
I assume the people defending Putin's annexation of Russian-majority borderlands are equally supportive of the aspirations of other ethnic areas to break away from Russia, right? And they condemn Putin's use of brutal force to prevent such breakaways, right? Right? Hello?

/What's the Russian equivalent of "Volksdeutsch"?
 
2014-03-24 10:40:28 AM  

Infernalist: CleanAndPure: TheGregiss: The Russians need lebensraum.

They have that in abundance... this isn't Germany where 20 people have to live in the area of a sardine can.

Each Russian has 20 national parks in his back yard. Huge country...

Russia doesn't need breathing room, it needs a buffer zone.

Russians have some ingrained terror of being invaded.  Especially by Germany.  And to the Russian mind, the best way to keep themselves safe is to put as much room between themselves and their enemies.  That's why they had the Iron Curtain and the Soviet Bloc nations as a big buffer zone between them and NATO.

That's why they freak out when their neighbors want to get cozy and comfy with the West.  They see no buffer between them and enemy armies bearing down on Moscow.


And the EU and NATO (which according to them should have dissolved when the Soviet Union did) have been steadily expanding to the east for 20 years.

"They invade our space and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here!"
 
2014-03-24 10:43:53 AM  

ArkPanda: Infernalist: CleanAndPure: TheGregiss: The Russians need lebensraum.

They have that in abundance... this isn't Germany where 20 people have to live in the area of a sardine can.

Each Russian has 20 national parks in his back yard. Huge country...

Russia doesn't need breathing room, it needs a buffer zone.

Russians have some ingrained terror of being invaded.  Especially by Germany.  And to the Russian mind, the best way to keep themselves safe is to put as much room between themselves and their enemies.  That's why they had the Iron Curtain and the Soviet Bloc nations as a big buffer zone between them and NATO.

That's why they freak out when their neighbors want to get cozy and comfy with the West.  They see no buffer between them and enemy armies bearing down on Moscow.

And the EU and NATO (which according to them should have dissolved when the Soviet Union did) have been steadily expanding to the east for 20 years.

"They invade our space and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here!"


Oh, without a doubt, the West has been absolutely pushing into Eastern Europe, both economically and politically and perhaps even militarily.

And without a doubt, this has made the Russians freak the fark out.

And I also do not doubt that they know what this is doing to the Russian mindset.  The only question in my mind is whether or not it's a deliberate thing, or simply done out of indifference to how the Russians perceive it.
 
2014-03-24 10:43:59 AM  

Infernalist: CleanAndPure: TheGregiss: The Russians need lebensraum.

They have that in abundance... this isn't Germany where 20 people have to live in the area of a sardine can.

Each Russian has 20 national parks in his back yard. Huge country...

Russia doesn't need breathing room, it needs a buffer zone.

Russians have some ingrained terror of being invaded.  Especially by Germany.  And to the Russian mind, the best way to keep themselves safe is to put as much room between themselves and their enemies.  That's why they had the Iron Curtain and the Soviet Bloc nations as a big buffer zone between them and NATO.

That's why they freak out when their neighbors want to get cozy and comfy with the West.  They see no buffer between them and enemy armies bearing down on Moscow.


True...Russia has quite the history of being invaded from the west AND the east.

/of course, it's been centuries since the Golden Horde...
///FOR THE HORDE
 
2014-03-24 10:48:25 AM  
Well according to Putin, these countries are fighting over one-another to join the Russian Empire.  Who's knows what countries "Self-Defense" forces will rise up to defend voters who want to join Russia.

So in essence we could pull a Putin and send U.S. troops there...but deny it and call them pro-Ukrainian Self-defense forces.  That way we get the political cover of not really being there right?  I say call his bluff.
 
2014-03-24 10:49:22 AM  

ArkPanda: Infernalist: CleanAndPure: TheGregiss: The Russians need lebensraum.

They have that in abundance... this isn't Germany where 20 people have to live in the area of a sardine can.

Each Russian has 20 national parks in his back yard. Huge country...

Russia doesn't need breathing room, it needs a buffer zone.

Russians have some ingrained terror of being invaded.  Especially by Germany.  And to the Russian mind, the best way to keep themselves safe is to put as much room between themselves and their enemies.  That's why they had the Iron Curtain and the Soviet Bloc nations as a big buffer zone between them and NATO.

That's why they freak out when their neighbors want to get cozy and comfy with the West.  They see no buffer between them and enemy armies bearing down on Moscow.

And the EU and NATO (which according to them should have dissolved when the Soviet Union did) have been steadily expanding to the east for 20 years.

"They invade our space and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here!"


The USSR requested to join NATO once, and received the 1950s version of "LOL" as a response.
 
2014-03-24 10:51:13 AM  

Aegius: Well according to Putin, these countries are fighting over one-another to join the Russian Empire.  Who's knows what countries "Self-Defense" forces will rise up to defend voters who want to join Russia.

So in essence we could pull a Putin and send U.S. troops there...but deny it and call them pro-Ukrainian Self-defense forces.  That way we get the political cover of not really being there right?  I say call his bluff.


We're already winning with the current collection of economic and legal tricks, why bother putting any soldiers in harm's way?
 
2014-03-24 10:51:30 AM  

raerae1980: redmid17: raerae1980: So, I should cross Moldova off my list of EU countries to visit?


/doesn't sound very touristy.

If Moldova is on your list of EU countries to visit (for fun), I would question your taste as well as the source of information you're using for EU countries.

Fark should have a sarcasm button.


I got the sarcasm button, but Moldova is not a member of the EU.
 
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