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(Metro)   America, now's the time to step up to the breakfast plate and save our British brothers. Because it's about bacon, it's serious business and a virus is involved. Oh wait, we're spreading it   (metro.co.uk) divider line 80
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2014-03-23 10:29:51 PM
But will the Emulsified High-Fat Offal Tube be safe?
 
2014-03-23 10:37:45 PM
It's thought the virus may be helped to spread by the practice of giving piglets the blood of slaughtered swine to eat, as a way of boosting growth.

We deserve our fate.
 
2014-03-23 11:04:32 PM

clancifer: It's thought the virus may be helped to spread by the practice of giving piglets the blood of slaughtered swine to eat, as a way of boosting growth.

We deserve our fate.


You should have included the next part:

A blood-derived feed known as spray-dried porcine plasma has been found to contain PEDV but it is not clear whether the pigs can catch the virus by eating it.
Although manufacturers insist SDPP is safe, industry associations are warning farmers to 'take every precaution' when using it.

Precautions for feed? You're kidding me, right?

/yeah... we deserve it
 
2014-03-23 11:27:02 PM
stop feeding them GMO feed, and the diarrhea goes away.
 
2014-03-23 11:28:22 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: clancifer: It's thought the virus may be helped to spread by the practice of giving piglets the blood of slaughtered swine to eat, as a way of boosting growth.

We deserve our fate.

You should have included the next part:

A blood-derived feed known as spray-dried porcine plasma has been found to contain PEDV but it is not clear whether the pigs can catch the virus by eating it.
Although manufacturers insist SDPP is safe, industry associations are warning farmers to 'take every precaution' when using it.

Precautions for feed? You're kidding me, right?

/yeah... we deserve it


Exactly. Either it's safe, or it isn't. What precautions could they take that might make it more or less safe? Besides not emulsifying infected pigs into a hearty soup, I mean.
 
2014-03-23 11:29:48 PM

wantingout: stop feeding them GMO feed, and the diarrhea goes away.


Lol... wha?
 
2014-03-23 11:30:19 PM
Man, you should not feed pigs to pigs...or any animal to itself. That's farked up, right there.
 
2014-03-23 11:33:15 PM
ElLoco: wantingout: stop feeding them GMO feed, and the diarrhea goes away.

Lol... wha?

>>here's one

http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/2176082/deformities_si c kness_and_livestock_deaths_the_real_cost_of_gm_animal_feed.html
 
2014-03-23 11:34:27 PM
Meh. British bacon is more akin to Canadian bacon.
 
2014-03-23 11:34:52 PM
Annnd bootsandpantsandbootsandpantsandbootsandpants
 
2014-03-23 11:35:40 PM
What have our British brothers done for us lately?
 
2014-03-23 11:37:35 PM
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-23 11:38:06 PM

wantingout: ElLoco: wantingout: stop feeding them GMO feed, and the diarrhea goes away.

Lol... wha?

>>here's one

http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/2176082/deformities_si c kness_and_livestock_deaths_the_real_cost_of_gm_animal_feed.html


Heh. Did you even read the article? About the whole virus thing?
 
2014-03-23 11:38:08 PM
I imagine this ends with us killing them in their sleep on Christmas. Again.
 
2014-03-23 11:38:52 PM
Just two days ago I got several packages of pork cuts from the butcher that processed the two pigs my folks fed out for slaughter, including several packages of sweet, sweet, farm-raised, foraging-fed bacon. Is it a little on the lean side? Yes, compared to the lard-strips you find at grocery stores. Do I care? No, because these were dirt-rooting, mud-wallowing, eat-what-pigs-would-normally-eat porkers. The packages fit nicely into the freezer next to the piles of feral pig cuts I harvested and butchered myself. So enjoy your blood-fed industrial farm "pork", King sh*t of fark Island over here has his own.
 
2014-03-23 11:39:01 PM
Oh for farks sake, after BSE people are still feeding livestock cannibal food?

you stupid farking retarded coonts.
 
2014-03-23 11:40:18 PM
Why the fark do farmers keep making their animals cannibals?  Didn't they learn that it's a bad idea from mad cow disease?
 
2014-03-23 11:47:24 PM
This practice of feeding livestock to livestock is pants on head stupid. If you are doing this practice you had f*ing tell me on the label. Oh the market will correct this? How can the market correct it if consumers don't know? F*Ing blood sucking Randibators.
 
2014-03-23 11:49:31 PM
I'll take virus-laden American food over clean British food.

/I'll survive the virus
 
2014-03-23 11:58:32 PM
Something about frying bacon
 
2014-03-23 11:58:43 PM
I will also mirror the "Haven't we learned anything from BSE/scrapie?!" comments.

Given the anatomical and genetic similarities between pigs and humans that allow them to be vectors of viruses that mutate to infect humans, this once again seems like a  really bad idea. Just wait till this gem of a virus makes its way to Asia, where they farm pork even more intensively than the US with even less food safety oversight, and where most of the funky bird + pig + human flu viruses rapidly mutate and kill people.

Thank fark I don't eat pork anymore. I stopped eating it nearly 20 years ago when it stopped actually tasting like something worth eating, doing a short stint in a hog barn while in high school didn't help either. Store bought chicken these days is largely going to the wayside in my diet as well. Thighs, the last bastion of flavor and juiciness on a chicken, are no longer dark nor flavorful. I just wish raising Cornish Cross chickens wasn't so messy, not to mention the hassle of plucking. The end result was well worth it, however. Home raised rabbit has mostly replaced chicken in my household with venison replacing beef. I keep trying to convince my husband to let us get goats again and maybe a pig (we have TONS of acorns). But he doesn't want the hassle. =/
 
2014-03-24 12:01:41 AM

Cerebral Ballsy: I'll take virus-laden American food over clean British food.

/I'll survive the virus


This from a country that will throw food away if it's been out of the fridge for more than twenty minutes. In the UK even supermarkets don't keep eggs in a chiller and they're perfectly safe to eat.
 
2014-03-24 12:02:00 AM
2 choices
1. let it run its course like a flu epidemic.
2. make a vaccine.

to late for choice number two,
Pigs will die, prices will rise, evolution will continue.
 
2014-03-24 12:02:35 AM

Cerebral Ballsy: I'll take virus-laden American food over "clean" British food.

/I'll survive the virus


F T F Y.

Loved the time I spent in England, but dear lord, they can't cook breakfast to save their lives. The Brits *think* they have it all figured out and they're just dead wrong, and that's because it goes beyond the food that's on the plate- they've managed to take the easiest breakfast possible (bread/meat/egg) and screwed it up *just* enough that in its entirety, is inedible. I'm definitely a breakfast guy, even if I don't want to get up early to eat it. I'll accept such a wide variety of foods to be offered as such for breakfast, that you could certainly eat breakfast, lunch and dinner off of the same table. (Fried chicken is most certainly in play, and there was absolutely stewed cabbage at that place in Indiana) Even when I went to a place specifically advertising an American style breakfast, I couldn't get crispy bacon, spicy sausage, hash browns, and eggs over easy (and I'm not even going to try to ask for some biscuits and gravy, let alone grits) on the same plate next to some toast. It was heartbreaking, and is a primary reason why I couldn't ever live there.
 
2014-03-24 12:02:36 AM

knowsomething: This practice of feeding livestock to livestock is pants on head stupid. If you are doing this practice you had f*ing tell me on the label. Oh the market will correct this? How can the market correct it if consumers don't know? F*Ing blood sucking Randibators.


You know how l know how you never been on a hog farm? They eat each other all the time. If one is hurt or weak they will eat them. My first job was on a 7,000 head pig farm. We raised them form weaning to sixty pounds. Then they were sent to the finishing farms. If this is spreading it's caused by bad hygiene. You should be changing clothes and footwear every time goes from barn to barn. We are usally the carriers making them sick.
 
2014-03-24 12:04:27 AM

clancifer: It's thought the virus may be helped to spread by the practice of giving piglets the blood of slaughtered swine to eat, as a way of boosting growth.

We deserve our fate.


MaudlinMutantMollusk: clancifer: It's thought the virus may be helped to spread by the practice of giving piglets the blood of slaughtered swine to eat, as a way of boosting growth.

We deserve our fate.

You should have included the next part:

A blood-derived feed known as spray-dried porcine plasma has been found to contain PEDV but it is not clear whether the pigs can catch the virus by eating it.
Although manufacturers insist SDPP is safe, industry associations are warning farmers to 'take every precaution' when using it.

Precautions for feed? You're kidding me, right?

/yeah... we deserve it


Actually, no. WE don't deserve it, but the corporate dickheads in the US AgriCorp companies certainly need a good curb-stomping over it.

Hell, if this were China, several Agri-CEOs would have had a bullet put into the back of each of their skulls over something like this!
 
2014-03-24 12:07:26 AM
'It's impossible to overstate the damage it would cause,' said vet Derek Armstrong, of pig farmers' group BPEX.

litchicblog.files.wordpress.com


"The loss of cheap pork would be as devastating as the Chicxulub asteroid event and wipe out much of the life on the planet"
 
2014-03-24 12:08:10 AM

FirstNationalBastard: But will the Emulsified High-Fat Offal Tube be safe?


I hope so. Thousands of Londoners take the Emulsified High-Fat Offal Tube to work every morning.
 
2014-03-24 12:08:27 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-24 12:10:32 AM
A blood-derived feed known as spray-dried porcine plasma has been found to contain PEDV but it is not clear whether the pigs can catch the virus by eating it.
Although manufacturers insist SDPP is safe, industry associations are warning farmers to 'take every precaution' when using it.



daysofchange.files.wordpress.com

I had to find the right face palm, someone who would be disappointed in the bacon shortage.

So, about 15-20 years ago we all had a collective freakout over mad cow disease, something that may or may not have been transmitted to a handful of humans. Since then we better understand prion diseases and know that sometimes there's a genetic flaw that can misfold proteins without prior prion exposure. But we know sure as fark that feeding cows back to cows ensured the prions were in the population of cows. Now, anyone want to tell me why cannibalism is wrong? That's right, what killed them might kill you. The carnivore takes that risk all along, but I doubt you'll find many apex predators munching on the corpses of their fellows.
 
JVD
2014-03-24 12:14:00 AM
I don't want to live in a world without bacon.
 
2014-03-24 12:16:37 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: knowsomething: This practice of feeding livestock to livestock is pants on head stupid. If you are doing this practice you had f*ing tell me on the label. Oh the market will correct this? How can the market correct it if consumers don't know? F*Ing blood sucking Randibators.

You know how l know how you never been on a hog farm? They eat each other all the time. If one is hurt or weak they will eat them. My first job was on a 7,000 head pig farm. We raised them form weaning to sixty pounds. Then they were sent to the finishing farms. If this is spreading it's caused by bad hygiene. You should be changing clothes and footwear every time goes from barn to barn. We are usally the carriers making them sick.


In spite of this inevitable anecdotal defense, an incrdibly tiny proportion of their dietary intake will  be other pigs.
 
2014-03-24 12:18:49 AM

FirstNationalBastard: But will the Emulsified High-Fat Offal Tube be safe?


Yes, Prime minister.

/Love that show.
 
2014-03-24 12:21:14 AM

knowsomething: This practice of feeding livestock to livestock is pants on head stupid. If you are doing this practice you had f*ing tell me on the label. Oh the market will correct this? How can the market correct it if consumers don't know? F*Ing blood sucking Randibators.


I've always loved when the same people that scream that the market will correct unethical behavior, inferior ingredients being used, whatever else are the same people that scream bloody murder about any regulation that helps to educate the consumer about things listed above.

It's an extra plus when they say the market will correct unethical behavior of a company that makes a chemical or other product that goes into another product, that goes into a product that we use.  The Virginia River spill was a great example.  Yeah, people will research into what that company makes (coal foaming agent called 4-methylcyclohexane methanol) and research into the companies that use that particular agent in their processes (good luck with that), then research which manufacturer they source it from (again, good luck with that), and make an educated decision to not buy the products or services (in this case electricity) of any company that uses that manufacturer's goods, because we've all got soooooooo many choices about who we buy our electricity from and it isn't a necessity or anything.
 
2014-03-24 12:21:32 AM
Cannibal Porks

\m/ \m/
 
2014-03-24 12:23:49 AM

wildcardjack: A blood-derived feed known as spray-dried porcine plasma has been found to contain PEDV but it is not clear whether the pigs can catch the virus by eating it.
Although manufacturers insist SDPP is safe, industry associations are warning farmers to 'take every precaution' when using it.


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I had to find the right face palm, someone who would be disappointed in the bacon shortage.

So, about 15-20 years ago we all had a collective freakout over mad cow disease, something that may or may not have been transmitted to a handful of humans. Since then we better understand prion diseases and know that sometimes there's a genetic flaw that can misfold proteins without prior prion exposure. But we know sure as fark that feeding cows back to cows ensured the prions were in the population of cows. Now, anyone want to tell me why cannibalism is wrong? That's right, what killed them might kill you. The carnivore takes that risk all along, but I doubt you'll find many apex predators munching on the corpses of their fellows.


Funny thing, if you exclude the brains and CNS from the feed, the prions aren't going to infect the cows.
 
2014-03-24 12:24:52 AM

wantingout: ElLoco: wantingout: stop feeding them GMO feed, and the diarrhea goes away.

Lol... wha?

>>here's one

http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/2176082/deformities_si c kness_and_livestock_deaths_the_real_cost_of_gm_animal_feed.html


* article headline ends in a question mark
* "claims suggest"
* "Pedersen believes"
* "the presence of the herbicide glyphosate in his pig feed" (note: while the herbicide is commonly used in GMO pig feed, it is not GMO pig feed. also,
* glyphosate is used on conventional crops

Etc, etc.
 
2014-03-24 12:28:38 AM
What do we do with the waste, then?

img3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-03-24 12:28:42 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: knowsomething: This practice of feeding livestock to livestock is pants on head stupid. If you are doing this practice you had f*ing tell me on the label. Oh the market will correct this? How can the market correct it if consumers don't know? F*Ing blood sucking Randibators.

You know how l know how you never been on a hog farm? They eat each other all the time. If one is hurt or weak they will eat them. My first job was on a 7,000 head pig farm. We raised them form weaning to sixty pounds. Then they were sent to the finishing farms. If this is spreading it's caused by bad hygiene. You should be changing clothes and footwear every time goes from barn to barn. We are usally the carriers making them sick.


You are correct. We are the ones making them sick. I know swine are omnivores, but I would be hard pressed to believe they are cannibals in the wild. Prove to me that its not an induced state from being in abnormal confinement. Show me how evolution has provided them with the mechanism to deal with fighting animal ingested diseases.
 
2014-03-24 12:29:37 AM

knowsomething: Mid_mo_mad_man: knowsomething: This practice of feeding livestock to livestock is pants on head stupid. If you are doing this practice you had f*ing tell me on the label. Oh the market will correct this? How can the market correct it if consumers don't know? F*Ing blood sucking Randibators.

You know how l know how you never been on a hog farm? They eat each other all the time. If one is hurt or weak they will eat them. My first job was on a 7,000 head pig farm. We raised them form weaning to sixty pounds. Then they were sent to the finishing farms. If this is spreading it's caused by bad hygiene. You should be changing clothes and footwear every time goes from barn to barn. We are usally the carriers making them sick.

You are correct. We are the ones making them sick. I know swine are omnivores, but I would be hard pressed to believe they are cannibals in the wild. Prove to me that its not an induced state from being in abnormal confinement. Show me how evolution has provided them with the mechanism to deal with fighting animal ingested diseases.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74EkI08PZxo
 
2014-03-24 12:31:01 AM

grinding_journalist: Cerebral Ballsy: I'll take virus-laden American food over "clean" British food.

/I'll survive the virus

F T F Y.

Loved the time I spent in England, but dear lord, they can't cook breakfast to save their lives. The Brits *think* they have it all figured out and they're just dead wrong, and that's because it goes beyond the food that's on the plate- they've managed to take the easiest breakfast possible (bread/meat/egg) and screwed it up *just* enough that in its entirety, is inedible. I'm definitely a breakfast guy, even if I don't want to get up early to eat it. I'll accept such a wide variety of foods to be offered as such for breakfast, that you could certainly eat breakfast, lunch and dinner off of the same table. (Fried chicken is most certainly in play, and there was absolutely stewed cabbage at that place in Indiana) Even when I went to a place specifically advertising an American style breakfast, I couldn't get crispy bacon, spicy sausage, hash browns, and eggs over easy (and I'm not even going to try to ask for some biscuits and gravy, let alone grits) on the same plate next to some toast. It was heartbreaking, and is a primary reason why I couldn't ever live there.


No crispy bacon or hash browns? That's pretty sad, IMHO.

/ if they have croissants, I'd be OK over there....
 
2014-03-24 12:31:05 AM

gaspode: Mid_mo_mad_man: knowsomething: This practice of feeding livestock to livestock is pants on head stupid. If you are doing this practice you had f*ing tell me on the label. Oh the market will correct this? How can the market correct it if consumers don't know? F*Ing blood sucking Randibators.

You know how l know how you never been on a hog farm? They eat each other all the time. If one is hurt or weak they will eat them. My first job was on a 7,000 head pig farm. We raised them form weaning to sixty pounds. Then they were sent to the finishing farms. If this is spreading it's caused by bad hygiene. You should be changing clothes and footwear every time goes from barn to barn. We are usally the carriers making them sick.

In spite of this inevitable anecdotal defense, an incrdibly tiny proportion of their dietary intake will  be other pigs.


I wasn't saying it was common. I just saying it isn't new.
 
2014-03-24 12:34:02 AM
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I have a solution.  This is my spray-dried porcine plasma rifle.  In the 40 watt range.  Just what you see, pal.
 
2014-03-24 12:36:52 AM
Yeah 4 million killed in US. I believe it. OHHHH HA HA HAHAHAHAHA!
 
2014-03-24 12:41:30 AM

Torion!: Something about frying bacon


Yeah, but it is the British so I am pretty sure they will boil it.
 
2014-03-24 12:46:40 AM
Oh and to the people wondering if these things eat each other given the chance?  Yes, yes they do.  But these are farm swine, not the wild hybrids we have running around TX.  So I will give you that.

$1200 for a helicopter ride to shoot wild pigs in Texas.

Get in my electric smoker!!!!
 
2014-03-24 01:01:47 AM

White_Scarf_Syndrome: Oh and to the people wondering if these things eat each other given the chance?  Yes, yes they do.  But these are farm swine, not the wild hybrids we have running around TX.  So I will give you that.

$1200 for a helicopter ride to shoot wild pigs in Texas.

Get in my electric smoker!!!!


Shoot them on sight. It doesn't matter if you eat them. Just shoot them
 
2014-03-24 01:05:11 AM

PolyHatSnake: Just two days ago I got several packages of pork cuts from the butcher that processed the two pigs my folks fed out for slaughter, including several packages of sweet, sweet, farm-raised, foraging-fed bacon. Is it a little on the lean side? Yes, compared to the lard-strips you find at grocery stores. Do I care? No, because these were dirt-rooting, mud-wallowing, eat-what-pigs-would-normally-eat porkers. The packages fit nicely into the freezer next to the piles of feral pig cuts I harvested and butchered myself. So enjoy your blood-fed industrial farm "pork", King sh*t of fark Island over here has his own.


The main problem with modern pork is lack of fat. Soccer moms crying for leaner meat has driven the big three breeders to produce leaner meat. Which is dry and tastes less.
 
2014-03-24 01:10:29 AM

wantingout: stop feeding them GMO feed, and the diarrhea goes away.


[citation needed]
 
2014-03-24 01:14:22 AM

Mid_mo_mad_man: White_Scarf_Syndrome: Oh and to the people wondering if these things eat each other given the chance?  Yes, yes they do.  But these are farm swine, not the wild hybrids we have running around TX.  So I will give you that.

$1200 for a helicopter ride to shoot wild pigs in Texas.

Get in my electric smoker!!!!

Shoot them on sight. It doesn't matter if you eat them. Just shoot them


I tried explaining this policy to my friends back east.  I was told it was brutal.  Then I explained the estimated population numbers of these things and the damage they cause.

Then I said hey assholes you guys haven't even come down here to visit!  Fresh pork BBQ!!!
 
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