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2014-03-23 08:36:00 PM  

Shazam999: Drew selfies?


What's that? Pictures of an empty bottle of Maker's Mark?
 
2014-03-23 08:46:59 PM  

lamric: Igor Jakovsky: LordOfThePings:

Chair porn...da fuq?


Go on
 
2014-03-23 08:48:03 PM  

FatherDale: ReapTheChaos: LordOfThePings: [melissaliegner.files.wordpress.com image 386x576]

Just when I thought I'd seen everything...

Apparently, this is "art".
http://melissaliegner.wordpress.com/2011/01/24/human-chair/


melissaliegner.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-03-23 08:48:20 PM  

fappomatic: They had some sweet games, however. My family lore mentions an ancestor who was renowned for his Grand Theft Oxcart scores.


I hope this doesn't slip through the cracks and go unnoticed, because I chortled. Heartily.
 
2014-03-23 08:55:38 PM  
Just send me your daughter. I'll take very good care of her. :)
 
2014-03-23 09:09:28 PM  
I wonder if its the legacy of this that even today in Australia that'Ozzies' mostly of English descent tend to kick their kids out of the family home as soon as possible where as Australians of European descent tend to stay longer in the family home at least during university....
 
2014-03-23 09:32:58 PM  
Haiti has Restavecs.
 
2014-03-23 09:47:21 PM  

Delay: LordOfThePings: [melissaliegner.files.wordpress.com image 386x576]

That looks comfortable. I'll take three.


That's part of Ikea's Räpe line. They're always missing a screw.
 
2014-03-23 09:58:15 PM  

doglover: Studies have their own criticisms. But remember:

What you're reading, in historical accounts, is what someone dained to write down. You'll never know what they left out, what they were lying about, and what is just pure fantasy without multiple sources. That's true of ANY historical account, even today.

That's what history is. Trying to find as many voices as possible and sifting out the repeating themes. Somewhere where all the voices say the same thing is the truth.


Yes, yes, I agree. Well,, except the Holocaust. Anyone studying that and not arriving at the accepted narrative should be thrown in jail. But yeah,,, everything else you said is spot on.
 
2014-03-23 10:05:55 PM  

doglover: dragonchild: you have to first understand that you're not reading studies of how children were raised

Studies have their own criticisms. But remember:

What you're reading, in historical accounts, is what someone dained to write down. You'll never know what they left out, what they were lying about, and what is just pure fantasy without multiple sources. That's true of ANY historical account, even today.

That's what history is. Trying to find as many voices as possible and sifting out the repeating themes. Somewhere where all the voices say the same thing is the truth.


You know, 500 Years from now, an academic study of Fark threads would be a damned interesting read.  You know, if their heads didn't asplode first.
 
2014-03-23 10:10:31 PM  
Sweet, puberty swap.  And then what?  Lifespan increased to 27?
 
2014-03-23 10:25:43 PM  

ununcle: Anyone studying that and not arriving at the accepted narrative should be thrown in jail.


So I take it you work hard to help end ongoing genocides in Africa and Asia?
 
2014-03-23 10:43:25 PM  

SerenityValley: doglover: dragonchild: you have to first understand that you're not reading studies of how children were raised

Studies have their own criticisms. But remember:

What you're reading, in historical accounts, is what someone dained to write down. You'll never know what they left out, what they were lying about, and what is just pure fantasy without multiple sources. That's true of ANY historical account, even today.

That's what history is. Trying to find as many voices as possible and sifting out the repeating themes. Somewhere where all the voices say the same thing is the truth.

You know, 500 Years from now, an academic study of Fark threads would be a damned interesting read.  You know, if their heads didn't asplode first.


Ummmm...no. Fark is as important to the annals of world discussion as Manimal is to the annals of television history.
 
2014-03-23 11:13:43 PM  

Agatha Crispy: SerenityValley: doglover: dragonchild: you have to first understand that you're not reading studies of how children were raised

Studies have their own criticisms. But remember:

What you're reading, in historical accounts, is what someone dained to write down. You'll never know what they left out, what they were lying about, and what is just pure fantasy without multiple sources. That's true of ANY historical account, even today.

That's what history is. Trying to find as many voices as possible and sifting out the repeating themes. Somewhere where all the voices say the same thing is the truth.

You know, 500 Years from now, an academic study of Fark threads would be a damned interesting read.  You know, if their heads didn't asplode first.

Ummmm...no. Fark is as important to the annals of world discussion as Manimal is to the annals of television history.


An historian of 1050 AD probably felt the same way about his contemporaries, yet any writing that survived from  that historian would be considered "Primary Source" today.  You know, barring anything else directly contradictory.

/loved Manimal as a kid
//don't judge me
 
2014-03-23 11:22:20 PM  
Well, since you asked...

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-24 12:22:01 AM  

one of Ripley's Bad Guys: My daughter did this at 16; her mom decided she could live with the boyfriend and dad - as non-custodial parent I had no say.

Now at 19 she has a bit more realistic view of things than her friends...


I'm sorry to hear that.

I hate having to watch people learn things that hard way.
 
2014-03-24 12:26:44 AM  

FatherDale: ReapTheChaos: LordOfThePings: [melissaliegner.files.wordpress.com image 386x576]

Just when I thought I'd seen everything...

Apparently, this is "art".
http://melissaliegner.wordpress.com/2011/01/24/human-chair/


Meh. College students.
 
2014-03-24 12:28:26 AM  

Agatha Crispy: SerenityValley: doglover: dragonchild: you have to first understand that you're not reading studies of how children were raised

Studies have their own criticisms. But remember:

What you're reading, in historical accounts, is what someone dained to write down. You'll never know what they left out, what they were lying about, and what is just pure fantasy without multiple sources. That's true of ANY historical account, even today.

That's what history is. Trying to find as many voices as possible and sifting out the repeating themes. Somewhere where all the voices say the same thing is the truth.

You know, 500 Years from now, an academic study of Fark threads would be a damned interesting read.  You know, if their heads didn't asplode first.

Ummmm...no. Fark is as important to the annals of world discussion as Manimal is to the annals of television history.


Actually, stuff discussing common, everyday life and culture is of incredible value to historians- because nobody ever thinks to write it down, and what is written often isn't preserved. The kind of stuff you find on social media, with description and discussion of everyday life, popular reaction to events as they happen- historians would kill to have this kind of stuff for the periods they're studying. Right now, they often work off of the correspondence of people whose correspondence was important enough that somebody saved it. It's great to have a letter from Thomas Jefferson or Andrew Jackson, but what was the attitude of the average guy on the street towards the nullification crisis? It's really, really hard to know. Go back further, when the bulk of the population was illiterate and only the elites had anything preserved, and then often only official documents, because they were hiring scribes for want of reading skills themselves? What do you think history might look like if we had access to a fark equivalent from the time of the Pharaohs? The Early Popes? We're missing out on a lot of really interesting stuff because there was just no documentation. A major decision that changed the course of the Roman Empire? We have one or two sentences in Plutarch, maybe. Would you like to have a blow by blow, serious biography of Genghis Khan? Too bad. We don't have enough info to do it, and that's one of the most powerful and consequential people in the history of the world, and God knows what the common folks thought of the trends he created.

The problem with stuff like Fark is going to be sorting. We generate such enormous amounts of data now, that's it's going to be very hard to sort what's useful from what's not. But we'll leave that to the future, I suppose. They'll invent a search engine to sort through the stuff that doesn't just poof up and disappear. A lot of this stuff is going to disappear someday. The site dies, they'll disconnect the servers, sell 'em for scrap, and that's that.
 
2014-03-24 12:33:03 AM  

cptjeff: We generate such enormous amounts of data now, that's it's going to be very hard to sort what's useful from what's not.


Farkologists spend their whole life searching for working hotlinks to the buckets of the pseudo religious figure "Gorgor" who may or may not have been a real person.
 
2014-03-24 12:33:59 AM  
Lol. It's called Forniphilia... (Rule 34 in action).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_furniture

Oh, and I would NOT recommend doing a GIS if you happen to be at work... But that should be obvious.
 
2014-03-24 12:34:09 AM  

germ78: Sent them to the middle east in an ill-fated "children's crusade" which saw most of those children captured and sold into slavery?


Sounds familiar, but instead of slavery they either got blown to bits and/or came back with PTSD.
 
2014-03-24 02:11:08 AM  
snl.jt.org
"Our day began at dawn, where, after a hearty breakfast, we had punishment 'til lunchtime. After lunch, there was more punishment 'til dinner. After dinner, we would pull up anchor and sail for an hour, then drop anchor again for some verbal humiliation, followed by evening punishment."
 
2014-03-24 05:21:00 AM  

LordOfThePings: [melissaliegner.files.wordpress.com image 386x576]



I propose a new axiom:

Internet Rule 1/36: In any sufficiently large sample of porn, there will be at least one item for which the originating fetish cannot be determined.
 
2014-03-24 05:41:10 AM  

HairBolus: The children of nobles were commonly sent from vassals to serve their lords as pages and ladies in waiting where they were trained in courtly ways and educated to become adults (knights etc). This all sprung from the practice of a lord keeping the children of a vassal hostage to make him behave.

I wonder how much apprenticing was used to cement business relations. You wouldn't want to cheat someone at business if he was holding your children hostage.


nah, most people sent their kids into apprenticeship willingly because it almost guaranteed they'd be able to have employment.  Let's just say there weren't a lot of social services back then.
 
2014-03-24 06:07:58 AM  
It takes a village....
 
2014-03-24 06:31:43 AM  

ReverendJynxed: Delay: LordOfThePings: [melissaliegner.files.wordpress.com image 386x576]

That looks comfortable. I'll take three.

That's part of Ikea's Räpe line. They're always missing a screw.


FALSE, Ikea products are virtually never missing fasteners due to modern QC.

/that is some pretty weird art
 
2014-03-24 09:05:58 AM  
So.
The European dominance that followed was built upon the backs of children
 
2014-03-24 01:43:47 PM  
"But when you try and tell the young people of today that... they won't believe you."
 
2014-03-24 01:52:12 PM  
Always educate your heirs, you don't want them marrying some random person or turning into a total asshole no one wants to be King.
 
2014-03-24 01:53:43 PM  
religious orders did a lot of good back then

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-24 04:24:06 PM  
I was going to guess "married them off (females) and killed them in pointless religious wars (males)."

So I was kinda close.
 
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