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(LA Times)   What would happen if the Colorado River in Mexico had water in it? Starting today, we find out   (latimes.com) divider line 78
    More: Interesting, Starting Today, Colorado River Delta, Colorado River, U.S., Lake Mead, Gulf of California  
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2014-03-23 04:02:07 PM
Here, Mexico. Have a trickle.
 
2014-03-23 04:21:33 PM
Wait till the wingnuts hear about this.
 
2014-03-23 04:38:33 PM
I applaud the experiment, but if that drought keeps up through next year someone is going to biatch up a storm about it.  I think Slate just had a long article about how low the water levels in Lake Mead are this year.
 
2014-03-23 04:39:56 PM
Milleniums.
 
2014-03-23 04:41:46 PM

Lsherm: I applaud the experiment, but if that drought keeps up through next year someone is going to biatch up a storm about it.  I think Slate just had a long article about how low the water levels in Lake Mead are this year.


My thought too.

Nevada will complain about loss of storage in Lake mead.
 
2014-03-23 04:46:36 PM
Zonies/SanDiegans partying at rocky point may get to bathe?
 
2014-03-23 04:47:26 PM
Mexicans start building river submarines to enter the US?
 
2014-03-23 04:49:10 PM
More wetbacks?
 
2014-03-23 04:50:34 PM
I love how people in California try to justify living in an unsustainable habitat.
 
2014-03-23 04:51:06 PM

shtychkn: Lsherm: I applaud the experiment, but if that drought keeps up through next year someone is going to biatch up a storm about it.  I think Slate just had a long article about how low the water levels in Lake Mead are this year.

My thought too.

Nevada will complain about loss of storage in Lake mead.


"We have deserts here too! We don't live in them!! OOOOHHHH OOOOOooo.... oh nevermind"
 
2014-03-23 04:52:29 PM
It would become undrinkable?
 
2014-03-23 04:52:37 PM
Jesus gonna go for a walk?
 
2014-03-23 04:58:12 PM
Was that headline supposed to be a parody of a Folger's Crystals commercial?  It's kinda decaf it it is...
 
2014-03-23 04:58:46 PM
The habitat of the rare Southern Colorado River Ant Lion will be wiped out?
 
2014-03-23 05:02:52 PM

fat boy: More wetbacks?


I was about to say the same thing but I remembered how to look at the map thingies.
 
2014-03-23 05:06:59 PM

duffblue: I love how people in California try to justify living in an unsustainable habitat.


What does this have to do with CA ? There is no water in the river channel LONG before it gets close to California. The only thing unsustainable is California supplying half of the US's fruits and veggies.  Get used to lousy fruits and canned south American vegetables at twice the price.
 
2014-03-23 05:08:33 PM

Sliding Carp: Wait till the wingnuts hear about this.


Just tell them it's being used as a moat to keep the Mexicans out.
 
2014-03-23 05:12:18 PM

Archfeld: duffblue: I love how people in California try to justify living in an unsustainable habitat.

What does this have to do with CA ? There is no water in the river channel LONG before it gets close to California. The only thing unsustainable is California supplying half of the US's fruits and veggies.  Get used to lousy fruits and canned south American vegetables at twice the price.


California draws water from Lake Mead, and is drawing extra now because of the drought. Build some desalination plants already, if freaking cities in south Texas can I'd think California could.
 
2014-03-23 05:13:55 PM
FTA:about 326,000 gallons - enough to supply two average homes for one year.

Today I learned that the "average" home uses about 446 gallons of water a day, Damn I gotta get busy watering my lawn I am way behind the average
 
2014-03-23 05:17:24 PM
"When I'm alone in my house," she said, "sometimes I just daydream about those days."

What, you can't afford a TV?
 
2014-03-23 05:20:57 PM
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Here Mexico, have some extra water...
 
2014-03-23 05:28:13 PM

Lsherm: I applaud the experiment, but if that drought keeps up through next year someone is going to biatch up a storm about it.  I think Slate just had a long article about how low the water levels in Lake Mead are this year.


They most certainly will biatch and moan, but only out of ignorance: Lake Powell and Lake Mead together have a capacity of fifty million acre feet.  This experiment, at 100,000 acre feet, represents 0.2 percent of that total.  So, this could hasten the day of reckoning by maybe 2 days.

Won't stop the herp derps from bleating though.  Anyway, there's going to be blood shed when the Colorado runs out, which could happen within 2 years if the drought persists.
 
2014-03-23 05:38:34 PM

Archfeld: duffblue: I love how people in California try to justify living in an unsustainable habitat.

What does this have to do with CA ? There is no water in the river channel LONG before it gets close to California. The only thing unsustainable is California supplying half of the US's fruits and veggies.  Get used to lousy fruits and canned south American vegetables at twice the price.


Not true. The Colorado river disappears while it is forming the CA-AZ border. It is THE water source for the Imperial valley, and the All-American canal, which feeds the Imperial Valley, pretty much finishes it off.
 
2014-03-23 05:44:55 PM
I checked the logs: Lake Mead increased output by nearly double for four days to cause this "pulse".  So the day of reckoning will be a half a week closer than it would be.  Time to get out the pitchforks!
 
2014-03-23 05:46:46 PM

Sliding Carp: Wait till the wingnuts hear about this.


Read the comments, if you can stand it. But I guess I've seem worse.


I continue to be convinced that the Tea Party is a bunch of of lunatics, based on their beliefs.
 
2014-03-23 05:48:39 PM
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2014-03-23 05:54:37 PM
I know this isn't the Geek tab, but if anyone is interested in reading how productivity of the delta has changed since the river dried up, here's an interesting* paper.

*interesting if you're a nerd/paleontologist
 
2014-03-23 05:55:51 PM

Sliding Carp: Wait till the wingnuts hear about this.


It's Obama's fault.
 
2014-03-23 06:10:28 PM
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2014-03-23 06:29:05 PM

Archfeld: duffblue: I love how people in California try to justify living in an unsustainable habitat.

What does this have to do with CA ? There is no water in the river channel LONG before it gets close to California. The only thing unsustainable is California supplying half of the US's fruits and veggies.  Get used to lousy fruits and canned south American vegetables at twice the price.


Actually the fruits and vegetables from South America are lower priced, cheaper cost of labor, and no farmers colluding to raise the price of them. Plus, South America has plenty of water and fertile zones, they call it the tropics for a reason.

Other than some fruit. Apples,oranges, pears, and watermelon come to mind.  Pineapples, bananas, avocados, bananas, tomatos, guava, guanabana, sweet limes, mangos, and a large number of tropical fruits are simply better. I say this as someone who lives and travels extensively in both north and south america.

US companies are already descending on South America and enlarging their shops.
 
2014-03-23 06:29:52 PM
If Californai would just hurry up and fall off into the ocean we would solve a whole lot of problems all at once.
 
2014-03-23 06:39:23 PM
"326,000 gallons - enough to supply two average homes for one year"

Hell, no wonder they have water problems in the southwest.  that's 13.5k gallons a month per house!
My family of five, with daily showers and laundry ect uses 4-5k gallons a month....maybe 6k during the summer when watering the garden daily during drought months
 
2014-03-23 06:40:52 PM
Shut down Vegas and the water levels will rebound in a week.
 
2014-03-23 06:56:54 PM
Has the Southwest and California ever not been in a drought? Even back in the '80s when I was a kid, it seemed like there was drought. It's also a farking desert for chrissakes.
 
2014-03-23 07:03:41 PM

redly1: "326,000 gallons - enough to supply two average homes for one year"

Hell, no wonder they have water problems in the southwest.  that's 13.5k gallons a month per house!
My family of five, with daily showers and laundry ect uses 4-5k gallons a month....maybe 6k during the summer when watering the garden daily during drought months


I found this interesting link:

http://water.usgs.gov/edu/qa-home-percapita.html

Estimates vary, but each person uses about 80-100 gallons of water per day.

I'm sure I use much less than that.
 
2014-03-23 07:05:02 PM
Drowning illegal immigrants is our new policy?
 
2014-03-23 07:16:09 PM

S10Calade: If Californai would just hurry up and fall off into the ocean we would solve a whole lot of problems all at once.


That's not how plate tectonics work. It's sliding northwards, not west.
 
2014-03-23 07:18:57 PM

gfid: redly1: "326,000 gallons - enough to supply two average homes for one year"

Hell, no wonder they have water problems in the southwest.  that's 13.5k gallons a month per house!
My family of five, with daily showers and laundry ect uses 4-5k gallons a month....maybe 6k during the summer when watering the garden daily during drought months

I found this interesting link:

http://water.usgs.gov/edu/qa-home-percapita.html

Estimates vary, but each person uses about 80-100 gallons of water per day.

I'm sure I use much less than that.


A five minute shower is 35 gallons right off the bat. Add another twenty for flushing the toilet, and it starts creeping up. Thus the need to "let it mellow"
 
2014-03-23 07:23:00 PM

Badgers: S10Calade: If Californai would just hurry up and fall off into the ocean we would solve a whole lot of problems all at once.

That's not how plate tectonics work. It's sliding northwards, not west.


And of course someone's gotta "geek" the whole thing up. I don't care about the execution, just the endgame.
 
2014-03-23 07:23:09 PM

Fissile: Sliding Carp: Wait till the wingnuts hear about this.

It's Obama's fault.


I only skimmed a few...I stopped at the guy who complained that we're "throwing water away" by letting it flow to the ocean. Because, you know, once water is in the sea, it's lost forever.
 
2014-03-23 07:30:13 PM
 Archfeld:  I love how people in California try to justify living in an unsustainable habitat.

What does this have to do with CA ? There is no water in the river channel LONG before it gets close to California. The only thing unsustainable is California supplying half of the US's fruits and veggies.  Get used to lousy fruits and canned south American vegetables at twice the price.

Actually the fruits and vegetables from South America are lower priced, cheaper cost of labor, and no farmers colluding to raise the price of them. Plus, South America has plenty of water and fertile zones, they call it the tropics for a reason.

Other than some fruit. Apples,oranges, pears, and watermelon come to mind.  Pineapples, bananas, avocados, bananas, tomatos, guava, guanabana, sweet limes, mangos, and a large number of tropical fruits are simply better. I say this as someone who lives and travels extensively in both north and south america.

US companies are already descending on South America and enlarging their shops.


It is cost effective to fly SA produce to USA. More so than trucking CA produce.
I guess you are the last to know?
 
2014-03-23 07:45:37 PM

fusillade762: Sliding Carp: Wait till the wingnuts hear about this.

Just tell them it's being used as a moat to keep the Mexicans out.


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"RELEASE ALL THE WATER!"
 
2014-03-23 07:49:58 PM

snocone: Archfeld:  I love how people in California try to justify living in an unsustainable habitat.

What does this have to do with CA ? There is no water in the river channel LONG before it gets close to California. The only thing unsustainable is California supplying half of the US's fruits and veggies.  Get used to lousy fruits and canned south American vegetables at twice the price.

Actually the fruits and vegetables from South America are lower priced, cheaper cost of labor, and no farmers colluding to raise the price of them. Plus, South America has plenty of water and fertile zones, they call it the tropics for a reason.

Other than some fruit. Apples,oranges, pears, and watermelon come to mind.  Pineapples, bananas, avocados, bananas, tomatos, guava, guanabana, sweet limes, mangos, and a large number of tropical fruits are simply better. I say this as someone who lives and travels extensively in both north and south america.

US companies are already descending on South America and enlarging their shops.

It is cost effective to fly SA produce to USA. More so than trucking CA produce.
I guess you are the last to know?


There are these things called freighters...You think all those grapes from Chile and Bananas from Colombia(and many other countries) are flown in?

I would suggest you take a visit to the Port of Orleans.
 
2014-03-23 07:50:55 PM

Erix: I know this isn't the Geek tab, but if anyone is interested in reading how productivity of the delta has changed since the river dried up, here's an interesting* paper.

*interesting if you're a nerd/paleontologist


Shells ain't paleontology!

jk. I might check to see if I can find a copy on academia.edu
 
2014-03-23 07:54:39 PM

CruJones: gfid: redly1: "326,000 gallons - enough to supply two average homes for one year"

Hell, no wonder they have water problems in the southwest.  that's 13.5k gallons a month per house!
My family of five, with daily showers and laundry ect uses 4-5k gallons a month....maybe 6k during the summer when watering the garden daily during drought months

I found this interesting link:

http://water.usgs.gov/edu/qa-home-percapita.html

Estimates vary, but each person uses about 80-100 gallons of water per day.

I'm sure I use much less than that.

A five minute shower is 35 gallons right off the bat. Add another twenty for flushing the toilet, and it starts creeping up. Thus the need to "let it mellow"


Your shower head uses 7 gallons a minute?   I'm pretty sure mine uses 2 gpm since building codes here are strict on conserving water.  I like 10 minute showers, so that's only 20 right off the bat.

I did some back of the napkin calculations and figure I probably average about 70 gallons per day and I included everything, including the sprinkler system.  That's a very rough estimate though.  It could actually be less.  Or it could be more.

Still, to make up a nationwide average you have to take into account people who take baths instead of showers every day.  People who run their dishwasher or clothes washer multiple times a week, people who literally flood their lawns with their sprinklers, etc...
 
2014-03-23 07:58:32 PM
there are "official" things in the gangland formerly known as Mexico?
 
2014-03-23 08:15:41 PM
The last time we released the floodgates into Mexico, it was guns via Holder.

At least this time it's semi-useful stuff.
 
2014-03-23 08:38:21 PM

redly1: "326,000 gallons - enough to supply two average homes for one year"

Hell, no wonder they have water problems in the southwest.  that's 13.5k gallons a month per house!
My family of five, with daily showers and laundry ect uses 4-5k gallons a month....maybe 6k during the summer when watering the garden daily during drought months


Up until about a month ago, the water bills in my new house were showing a usage of 21,000+ gallons a month. The water company didn't seem to see why this was unusually high for our household consisting of only my wife and myself. But a leak detection company was able to find a leak just on the house side of the meter, just spewing water into the ground. After fixing it, our next bill showed 2600 gallons used the following month.

/at least they're going to refund us some of the sewer charges...
 
2014-03-23 09:00:10 PM
John Wesley Powell's ghost cackles across the dried up agriculture.
 
2014-03-23 09:01:20 PM

theflatline: Plus, South America has plenty of water and fertile zones, they call it the tropics for a reason.


Actually the asparagus supply are rapidly depleting water tables in Peru. Quinoa is causing a similar problem IIRC...
 
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