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(Politico)   Ex-Pres Carter: I'm pretty sure our government is spying on me   (politico.com) divider line 88
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2014-03-23 05:02:01 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Alien Robot: NewportBarGuy: You have Secret Service Protection, you peanut. Of course "they" monitor your communications.

Um, no. He gave up his Secret Service protection a long time ago, right after he left office.

Um, yeah.  The Jimmy Carter Historic Site says he still does.


I saw Jimmy Carter walk into Manuel's Tavern in '96. He had one elderly bodyguard with him; dude looked like a retired GBI agent.
 
2014-03-23 05:07:58 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Just over half of the posts in this thread are actually encoded messages between Al Qaeda members.


It's just under half. Sheesh.

/oops
 
2014-03-23 05:08:17 PM  
So, he's pretty much in the same boat as the rest of us?

/sans the rabbit
 
2014-03-23 05:15:12 PM  
Outstanding military record?  Check.
Self made businessman?  Check.
Washington D.C. outsider?  Check.
Very religious?  Check.

Perfect GOP candidate for president.  Except for the Bob Dylan and Grateful Dead.
 
2014-03-23 05:15:16 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Alien Robot: NewportBarGuy: You have Secret Service Protection, you peanut. Of course "they" monitor your communications.

Um, no. He gave up his Secret Service protection a long time ago, right after he left office.

Um, yeah.  The Jimmy Carter Historic Site says he still does.


He only uses their services part time when he feels the need.  Not too often really.
 
2014-03-23 05:25:33 PM  
Given the amount of travel Mr. Carter does to hostile nations, I certainly HOPE they are monitoring his communications. For his safety, if nothing else.
 
2014-03-23 05:31:38 PM  

wambu: Just because he's a little crazy doesn't mean he can't be a little right.


It's paranoia only when you're wrong.
 
2014-03-23 05:53:52 PM  
I'm sure the government has been spying on ex-presidents since the 50's.
 
2014-03-23 05:57:28 PM  

BravadoGT: NewportBarGuy: You have Secret Service Protection, you peanut. Of course "they" monitor your communications.

So the Secret Service listens to Obama's private phone calls?


Generally speaking, yes.  Though chances are they hand off to the NSA for a lot of it, and it's more a record/review thing than some incredibly bored intern actually listening to the line at all times.

It's a simple practical matter of not knowing what call is and isn't going to be a threat in advance, if one turns out to be relevant at some point they need to be able to go back and review the record.
 
2014-03-23 06:07:01 PM  
Jimmy Carter code name Drift wood  by his keepers.
 
2014-03-23 06:22:33 PM  

I Like Shiny Things: Miss that guy. Best President we've ever had.


-10....your troll skills are weak.
 
2014-03-23 06:39:22 PM  

Triumph: Few things piss people off more than a paranoid who is better informed than they are.


Even here people seem to have the memory of a goldfish: "Snowden who? NSA spying? Mass domestic surveillance? Never heard of it!"
 
2014-03-23 06:40:53 PM  

NewportBarGuy: You have Secret Service Protection, you peanut. Of course "they" monitor your communications.


He turned down the Secret Service detail.
 
2014-03-23 06:50:08 PM  
I would be surprised if they weren't. My grandfather used to, maybe still does, get a yearly call asking if he told anyone about his activities when he was in the Air Force, this guy had near unlimited access to the most sensitive info about our country.
 
2014-03-23 06:54:23 PM  

plushpuppy: He turned down the Secret Service detail.


Ok, since this has cropped up multiple times in this htread, and I can only find one unsourced confirmation and a lot of rebuttals:
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-23 06:54:50 PM  

BluVeinThrobber: AliceBToklasLives: Gergesa: I bet they are too.  Especially when he is in the shower.  He is a sexy beast rippling muscle.

and, as he told Playboy, he has lust in his heart.

And peanuts in his pocket


He has peanuts rattling around in his head too.
 
2014-03-23 07:19:16 PM  

mbillips: Jimmy Carter practically conducts his own (quite successful) foreign policy.


Successful from dictators' point-of-view, anyway.
 
2014-03-23 08:08:28 PM  
Does this mean they see our cam sessions?
 
2014-03-23 08:29:51 PM  

Boojum2k: plushpuppy: He turned down the Secret Service detail.

Ok, since this has cropped up multiple times in this htread, and I can only find one unsourced confirmation and a lot of rebuttals:
[img.fark.net image 800x600]


Yeah, I don't see anyone but someone on wiki answers saying he declined.  There appear to be a lot of stories by reputable news organizations that mention secret service agents around him when he travels.
 
2014-03-23 08:31:08 PM  
SwingingJohnson: The government does not know how to use print on paper anymore.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

(breathe)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

... You're Funny!
 
2014-03-23 08:43:52 PM  
 
2014-03-23 09:38:29 PM  

mbillips: Jimmy Carter practically conducts his own (quite successful) foreign policy. I would say there's quite a good chance they specifically monitor his phone calls. I mean, aside from the meta data they collect on EVERYONE.


No kidding. He also engages with the Israel/Palistine issue very heavily, and takes a position very different from the official US line on it. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that they've got an eye on him beyond just the metadata screening everybody else gets.

Prey4reign: I would imagine that Jimmy Carter probably qualifies as the most boring white man on the planet.


So the guy who regularly talks with foreign leaders and civil society groups with the aim of influencing them on some of the most important foreign policies of the day, travels to all sorts of interesting places, and is still entitled to a security clearance only 4 other people alive have? That guy? You think that guy is the most boring white guy alive?
 
2014-03-23 11:17:08 PM  

cptjeff: So the guy who regularly talks with foreign leaders and civil society groups with the aim of influencing them on some of the most important foreign policies of the day, travels to all sorts of interesting places, and is still entitled to a security clearance only 4 other people alive have?

I don't think he has that clearance. It was a point of contention with him and the incoming Reagan administration. He was apparently getting live updates on the situation in Iran (the plane with the newly-freed hostages was on the runway ready to depart Tehran as Reagan was being sworn in) and shortly after Reagan was sworn in, the updates ceased. When he inquired why he was no longer being updated, he was told it was because he no longer had the clearance to receive that information now that he wasn't President any more. At least that's the way it was reported at one time. Might be mistaken. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
2014-03-23 11:23:03 PM  
You are a former head of state Jimmy. Yes they are keeping a close eye on you and will until you die.
 
2014-03-24 12:06:06 AM  

Alien Robot: cptjeff: So the guy who regularly talks with foreign leaders and civil society groups with the aim of influencing them on some of the most important foreign policies of the day, travels to all sorts of interesting places, and is still entitled to a security clearance only 4 other people alive have?
I don't think he has that clearance. It was a point of contention with him and the incoming Reagan administration. He was apparently getting live updates on the situation in Iran (the plane with the newly-freed hostages was on the runway ready to depart Tehran as Reagan was being sworn in) and shortly after Reagan was sworn in, the updates ceased. When he inquired why he was no longer being updated, he was told it was because he no longer had the clearance to receive that information now that he wasn't President any more. At least that's the way it was reported at one time. Might be mistaken. Correct me if I'm wrong.


Clearance and access are different. Presidents get the clearance, but they don't have a need to know any more, so they have to get permission from the current administration to access things. But it means that if somebody- say, a current President or Secretary of Defense, wants to talk with him about something, they don't have to worry about disclosing classified stuff. Ex Presidents get to have some very interesting conversations, and get to learn lots of things the rest of us don't, though not all of it. And if an ex-President requests documents on something, they probably get most of them. Well, same party maybe. Reagan was a jackass about a lot of that stuff (well, more accurately, his staff), and I don't imagine the W admin was too accommodating either.
 
2014-03-24 01:59:23 AM  
Stupid F^&%Ker
 
2014-03-24 02:12:31 AM  
That noise you just heard was Rick Romero commiting suicide for missing this scoop.
 
2014-03-24 06:26:33 AM  

I Like Shiny Things: Miss that guy. Best President we've ever had.


4/10 for making me laugh.
 
2014-03-24 06:45:55 AM  

TerminalEchoes: I Like Shiny Things: Miss that guy. Best President we've ever had.

4/10 for making me laugh.


Carter was better than Obama is.
 
2014-03-24 09:09:53 AM  
Wait!  The same government that did everything they could to undermine your administration?  C'mon, Jimmy.  Be real.
 
2014-03-24 10:36:32 AM  

ransack.: Triumph: Few things piss people off more than a paranoid who is better informed than they are.

He's 89 years old. This is a situation where you say "OKAY GRAMPA. WHATEVER YOU SAY" and wink and nod because this guy earned the right to be senile.


It's ok Zombie Carter . Ha !
 
2014-03-24 11:57:48 AM  

wambu: It's because they are still protecting him from that killer rabbit.

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That's funny.  That's the first time I ever heard of this.
 
2014-03-24 12:06:46 PM  

mbillips: Jimmy Carter practically conducts his own (quite successful) foreign policy.


Pity he couldn't do that when he was in office.
 
2014-03-24 12:31:55 PM  

Cold_Sassy: wambu: It's because they are still protecting him from that killer rabbit.

[i.imgur.com image 800x257]

That's funny.  That's the first time I ever heard of this.


Isn't FARK a wonderful thing?
 
2014-03-24 02:07:03 PM  

Cold_Sassy: wambu: It's because they are still protecting him from that killer rabbit.

[i.imgur.com image 800x257]

That's funny.  That's the first time I ever heard of this.


Seriously?  I remember that whole kerfluffle when it happened.
 
2014-03-24 02:39:53 PM  

Cold_Sassy: wambu: It's because they are still protecting him from that killer rabbit.

[i.imgur.com image 800x257]

That's funny.  That's the first time I ever heard of this.


I'm guessing you also didn't know about his UFO sighting.
 
2014-03-24 02:46:27 PM  

minoridiot: Cold_Sassy: wambu: It's because they are still protecting him from that killer rabbit.

[i.imgur.com image 800x257]

That's funny.  That's the first time I ever heard of this.

I'm guessing you also didn't know about his UFO sighting.


Or the lust he has felt in his heart.
 
2014-03-24 07:58:43 PM  
I'm not even American, but I think James Earl "Jimmy" Carter, Jr. deserves some real respect.
 
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