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(Yahoo)   Do you know how hard it is to make ends meet while having to make payments on your million dollar yacht? Look, that's what "public assistance" is for, right?   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 141
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2014-03-23 08:52:01 AM  
This is just another example of right-wing dog whistling. People don't take advantage of the welfare system.
 
2014-03-23 08:55:45 AM  
Just shoot 'em. Somewhere in the guts. And leave 'em adrift on the boat.
 
2014-03-23 08:58:36 AM  

Lucky LaRue: This is just another example of right-wing dog whistling. People don't take advantage of the welfare system.


"Corporations are people, my friend"
/lulz
 
2014-03-23 09:20:23 AM  
People like this are wasting air that could be better used by someone else.
 
2014-03-23 09:21:52 AM  
Buckwheats.
 
2014-03-23 09:23:55 AM  
What is the point of that? The 20k/year they scammed seems like it wouldn't of changed their life muCH.
 
2014-03-23 09:37:52 AM  

doglover: Just shoot 'em. Somewhere in the guts. And leave 'em adrift on the boat.


I don't know.  The boat sounds kind of nice.  We should give that to Minnesota or Florida and see if they can sell if off and maybe drop a few bucks back in the state coffers to offset these morons duping them.  Maybe we can just gutshot them and when they finally bleed out, that'll be the timer on when the Ebay bids are closed for the SS Florisota.
 
2014-03-23 09:57:33 AM  

Lucky LaRue: This is just another example of right-wing dog whistling. People don't take advantage of the welfare system.


See, here's the deal.  These people are assholes, and fraudsters.  Yes, there are people that take advantage of the welfare system.  Do you know why there is a news story when they are uncovered?  Because it's news.

Do you know why there isn't a news story when someone is found to be utilizing the welfare system properly?  Because it's so common, it's not news.

/b-b-b-but Derp!
 
2014-03-23 10:20:41 AM  
The "Public Assistance" (can't call it welfare, you might hurt feelings), programs in Minnesota are so farked. There has been a rampant abuse problem. People using their prepaid cards for smokes, alcohol, making ATM withdraws,  tattoos... A local news station here did a huge investigation, and county/state officials were all "DERP, we didn't think that the prepaid cards would be abused"

Now getting on the dole is just as easy for some. Be a single mom, have a utility bill in your name showing residence? Here's your benefits! The Megabus that runs between Minneapolis-Milwaukee-Chicago has been nicknamed Moneybus as it's used in some communities as a "commuter line" for people to travel back to MN for a weekend to re-qualify for benefits they shouldn't be getting.
 
2014-03-23 10:27:47 AM  
A $30,000 Lexus?   What, was it missing an engine or something?
 
2014-03-23 10:30:04 AM  
I wonder how much money Minnesota spent investigating and how much they will spend prosecuting and incarcerating these miscreants.  I'm glad we have government servants ready and willing to save our tax dollars, though..
 
2014-03-23 10:41:29 AM  
99.4% of welfare recipients own a yacht.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-03-23 10:58:22 AM  
Colin Chisholm was the chief executive officer of a satellite television and broadband services company

Somehow this doesn't seem that surprising.
 
2014-03-23 11:01:16 AM  
"They know by now we are looking for them."

You should probably try looking on the yacht.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-03-23 11:19:15 AM  
It's all those black single mothers who are too lazy to work.  See here's what one looks like:

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2014-03-23 11:37:45 AM  

North_Central_Positronics: A $30,000 Lexus?   What, was it missing an engine or something?


They were on welfare, they can't afford an engine in their car.
 
2014-03-23 12:05:10 PM  

grokca: North_Central_Positronics: A $30,000 Lexus?   What, was it missing an engine or something?

They were on welfare, they can't afford an engine in their car.


I bet they had a refrigerator, though.
 
m00
2014-03-23 12:21:53 PM  
Wait, these guys seem pretty rich. I thought Republicans were for welfare for rich people.
 
2014-03-23 12:24:48 PM  
And yet, just yesterday, Farkers were denouncing tighter controls on Welfare. Yes, welfare recipients are all 100% upstanding, honest citizens and do not need restraints. In fact, let's just send them wads of cash in the mail. Dump the EBT card and skip the middle man.
 
2014-03-23 12:25:22 PM  

Lucky LaRue: I wonder how much money Minnesota spent investigating and how much they will spend prosecuting and incarcerating these miscreants.  I'm glad we have government servants ready and willing to save our tax dollars, though..


Oh, now you're saying they should get away with it. Forget to change alts?
 
2014-03-23 12:26:25 PM  

Lucky LaRue: This is just another example of right-wing dog whistling. People don't take advantage of the welfare system.

Colin Chisholm was the chief executive officer of a satellite television and broadband services company, his wife bred and sold championship dogs, and over a seven-year period the couple deposited more than $2.6 million in bank accounts they did not report on applications for welfare benefits, according to the complaint.

 
2014-03-23 12:27:16 PM  
Rich fraudsters' problems.
 
2014-03-23 12:27:44 PM  

North_Central_Positronics: A $30,000 Lexus?   What, was it missing an engine or something?


I think the newspaper must have actually checked the bluebook value of their family car, shockingly. You can find 2013 Lexus models for sale for $30k with only 15,000 miles on em, I'm guessing they had the downmarket model for a few years.
 
2014-03-23 12:31:43 PM  
Time to reform the welfare system Mr. Obama.
 
2014-03-23 12:33:40 PM  
But it's pronounced, "mangrove".

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-23 12:35:26 PM  
They need to be made an example of.
 
2014-03-23 12:36:25 PM  

PanicMan: Lucky LaRue: This is just another example of right-wing dog whistling. People don't take advantage of the welfare system.

Colin Chisholm was the chief executive officer of a satellite television and broadband services company, his wife bred and sold championship dogs, and over a seven-year period the couple deposited more than $2.6 million in bank accounts they did not report on applications for welfare benefits, according to the complaint.


To be fair, that was all that remained from their $2.600001 earnings after taxes so. . .
 
2014-03-23 12:36:45 PM  
If your name has a number in it, you are pretty much guaranteed to be a douche bag. Douche bag the third.
 
2014-03-23 12:37:02 PM  
Food stamps budget last year  = 75 Billion
feed 44 million people - about 1700 a year .

last year Boeing alone got 13 billion -

Lets just agree that Republicans want to give welfare to their base ( Rich Friends ) -- Not Kidding
And democrats want to give to their base ( worthless degenerates )  Half Kidding
 
2014-03-23 12:37:35 PM  

Lucky LaRue: This is just another example of right-wing dog whistling. People don't take advantage of the welfare system.


But now we have lobster-eating surfer guy -and- this yacht-living scammer couple. That's 3 out of millions. Clearly, the poors are yacht-living lobster eaters. Did you know that 99.6% of the poors have a refrigerator? This is an outrage!
 
2014-03-23 12:38:16 PM  
Clearly their taxes haven't been cut enough.
 
2014-03-23 12:39:36 PM  
That's it, from now on anyone ripping of government handout programs need to be banned from any program for ever and we must shut down the program. But make it fair, any corporation that rips off the government also needs the same punishment and the program needs to be ended and all executives who participated need to be thrown in jail. That ok with you Haliburton?
 
2014-03-23 12:40:18 PM  
Easy up on these fine upstanding job creators.
 
2014-03-23 12:41:36 PM  
Let me beat Fox News to the punch: This is evidence that all people abuse the food stamp program, so let's get rid of it.
 
2014-03-23 12:41:47 PM  
One of the comments to the article adds quite a bit of detail. I didn't get to fact check it, but it is interesting.

From the comments:

Reading more, it sounds like there is much more to this story and it's more than welfare cheats. This story skips over some details. They signed papers for the $1.2 million dollar yacht in 2005 and lived on it for 28 months. Based on the documents from the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, the 28 months seems to be how long it took for the guy who sold it to them to get it back because they didn't make payments on it. March 2008, they moved into a luxury home in Minnesota and were evicted in under a year. Feb 2009, they moved into another luxury home. Reading between the lines, sounds like it may have been purchased, possibly improperly, with the funds of her grandmother.

The maximum sentence for what they are charged with is 20 years Authorities have been looking for them for a month now though they believe they have fled the country. The website for the company he is CEO of is just BS fluff that could be put together in a few hours even though the complaint references it provided him with $1 million dollars in deposits for satellite services to the Carribbean. The other $2.6 million in deposits may have came from her breeding business where amounts are subjective. Sounds like more than just welfare fraud here, but welfare fraud sounds like the easiest thing to prove and prosecute.
 
2014-03-23 12:42:27 PM  
Obviously the solution is to disband all forms of pubic assistance, even to those who clearly need it.

Amidoinitrite, Fox News?

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2014-03-23 12:44:15 PM  
Confiscate their wealth and property, blacklist them from employment or travel, and don't allow them to ever collect public assistance again. They'll get by. The husband can shine shoes, and the wife can be a whore.
 
2014-03-23 12:44:18 PM  
People in Minnesota like welfare so much they even elect people who receive ill-gotten corporate welfare:
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2014-03-23 12:45:22 PM  
Like farm subsidies?
 
2014-03-23 12:45:23 PM  

Sniffers Row: The "Public Assistance" (can't call it welfare, you might hurt feelings)


Probabaly because the word "welfare" has been used like a blunt instrument to demean people and is used as a catch-all description of any form of public aid the elites want abolished.

Besides, the average Fox news watcher can't spell "assistance", so they call it "welfare".
 
2014-03-23 12:46:49 PM  

PanicMan: Lucky LaRue: This is just another example of right-wing dog whistling. People don't take advantage of the welfare system.

Colin Chisholm was the chief executive officer of a satellite television and broadband services company, his wife bred and sold championship dogs, and over a seven-year period the couple deposited more than $2.6 million in bank accounts they did not report on applications for welfare benefits, according to the complaint.


Sounds a lot like the time Ann Romney got taxpayer money because she owned a show horse.

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2014-03-23 12:47:28 PM  

Lucky LaRue: I wonder how much money Minnesota spent investigating and how much they will spend prosecuting and incarcerating these miscreants.  I'm glad we have government servants ready and willing to save our tax dollars, though..


They typically only prosecute if it is so heinous it would embarrass them on the evening news. They're also very selective about who they do and don't prosecute based on local politics.

I know people that have made a career out of defrauding welfare. They consider it an entitlement and find the idea that they should have to work just like everyone else horrifying. It's extremely unlikely for the typical welfare cheat to get prosecuted and if they do it's highly unlikely that they will face jail time.
 
2014-03-23 12:47:35 PM  
Obviously, this is proof we need to outlaw public assistance to black people.
 
2014-03-23 12:48:22 PM  
Hot on the heels of the article about CEOs being the highest percentage of psychopaths.
 
2014-03-23 12:48:30 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Obviously the solution is to disband all forms of pubic assistance, even to those who clearly need it.

Amidoinitrite, Fox News?



Yes. (prolly nsfw language)
 
2014-03-23 12:49:39 PM  
What do you bet that yacht was their getaway vehicle, and they're living comfortably on an island in the Caribbean now?  They seem smarter than your average crooks.

Don't bother wasting more money looking for them, just fine them every penny they have or could ever hope to make if they ever show back up in the US.  Leave them homeless on the street, ban them from collecting any more benefits for life, don't let them declare bankruptcy, and let them eat out of dumpsters.
 
2014-03-23 12:49:53 PM  

NickelP: What is the point of that? The 20k/year they scammed seems like it wouldn't of changed their life muCH.


Seriously, wouldn't the effort of applying for assistance be more trouble that it's worth if you've already got plenty of dough?
 
2014-03-23 12:52:13 PM  
If your name ends in "The Third", you probably do not need any more money.
 
m00
2014-03-23 12:56:53 PM  
To be serious, this is what I can't stand about Republicans.

If you want to "end welfare" fine. No corporate welfare to companies like GE. No welfare to wall street. No welfare to the wealthy in the form of generous tax loopholes. No welfare to energy companies, and resource extraction companies. No protected markets. No farm bill. No using our military to aid business interests in foreign countries. Then by all means advocate also ending food stamps and welfare for poor people.

What seriously irritates me is that Republicans only advocate ending assistance to low income people who need it. But billion dollar corporations? Wealthy CEOs? They get to keep their welfare.

I guess we know who has lobbyists and makes campaign contributions. Because that's what this is about. It's about taxing the poor and middle class and giving to wholly to the rich, because rich people pay for political campaigns.

So Republicans: spare me your outrage about poor people gaming public assistance, because this only "outrages" you because they buy refrigerators with the money rather than politicians.
 
2014-03-23 12:57:11 PM  
There is an option to do away with wefare and unemplyment fraud, oversight, and saves money.

A guaranteed minimum income.


http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/12/10/rethinking-the-idea-of- a- basic-income-for-all/
Rethinking the Idea of a Basic Income for All
By Bruce Bartlett
Bruce Bartlett held senior policy roles in the Reagan and George H.W. Bush administrations and served on the staffs of Representatives Jack Kemp and Ron Paul.
 
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