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(Sun Sentinel)   "Free speech is not hassle-free"   ( divider line
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7585 clicks; posted to Main » on 23 Mar 2014 at 11:17 AM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2014-03-23 02:08:23 PM  
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GentlemanJ: doglover: Well, duh.

The second amendment is not different from the any of the first 10. Basically all of those enumerated rights and restrictions on the Federal gov't were split numerically for the sake of convenience of learning. But they're a unified whole. And the reason they're a unified whole is because they all mesh. You can't have free speech without risking attacks upon your person, unreasonable search and seizure, etc.

The nail that speaks up gets hammered down, pulled up, and melted by the blacksmith of oppression. That's why have the right to share this info and get all the other nails around and pin that farking blacksmith to the wall by his scrote with political movements.

The "second amendment"?

SSsssh. He's on a roll
2014-03-23 01:28:11 PM  
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Hobodeluxe: MNguy: If you want to ignore attorney requests for information, that's fine.  Probably not going to cost you too much when all is said and done.  But, in the end, you do have to provide it.  Not a first amendment issue at all.

wouldn't it have to be approved by a judge? and wouldn't they have to show some reason that they would need such information? I mean what does he think he will find? some collusion between those people and their representatives? that they are paying them to vote a certain way?  seems there should be some determination made to justify this. and what about his client? couldn't you request their info too? all their contributions to elected officials,lobbying,communications etc?  how do we know they aren't trying to sway the vote through collusion?

Winner!  First there would have to be actual litigation, as in a complaint filed.  Next, Mr. Green would have to file a request for 3rd party production of discovery, which can be opposed.  Followed by a hearing, where it would be unlikely that Mr. Green would prevail since it is his burden to show that the production would lead to meaningful discovery.

But my solution would be to widely publish both Mr. Green's home address and the address of the office he reports to each day.  Then, after he spends some time looking over his shoulder every time he goes to his car, we'd see how serious he is about this.  But then again, I have anger issues.
2014-03-23 12:04:45 PM  
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If someone tries to suppress your First Amendment rights, counter them with your Second Amendment rights.
2014-03-23 12:03:27 PM  
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MrBentor: The 'people' sending those letters could get a fowl of anti SLAPP laws.

as long as they're literate
2014-03-23 11:38:43 AM  
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"I'm not threatening to sue these people," Green told me. "I'm just telling them to preserve evidence. ... Citizens have an absolute first amendment right to speak at public hearings. But with rights come responsibilities."

That's for a Judge to order, not a power hungry lawyer working for a corporation bent on intimidating private citizens.

What's great is when people fight back, like this company did when a larger company tried to use intimidation tactics.
2014-03-23 11:37:48 AM  
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This lawyer is calling people venemous liars in the press.  Can't they sue him for slander or something?

What a chode.
2014-03-23 10:36:24 AM  
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The key to free speech is that everyone is free.  Meaning, you are free to say whatever you want, and everyone else is free to tell you you're a dumbass for it.
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