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(Cleveland Scene)   Cover band caused "great and incalculable damage" according to BMI   (clevescene.com) divider line 35
    More: Fail, Medina, BMI, cover bands, performing rights, Rick Springfield, music licensing, brown eye, statutory damages  
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2014-03-23 10:28:18 AM  
3 votes:
♫ Happy Birthday to you!
Happy Birthday to you!
Happy Birthday dear Soandso!
Happy Birthday to you! ♫

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2014-03-23 10:06:24 AM  
3 votes:

BitwiseShift: Turn down any gig in any bar in Medina, man. And Mecca, too.  It's a bummer.


The Shareef don't like it
2014-03-23 10:01:45 AM  
3 votes:
Don't judge a book just by the cover
Unless you cover just another
And blind acceptance is a sign
Of stupid fools who stand in line
Like EBMI, EBMI, EBMI...
2014-03-23 04:21:05 PM  
2 votes:
Why not copyright eggs over easy or a steak medium rare?
2014-03-23 11:04:25 AM  
2 votes:
The judge should award them incalculable damages. Perhaps a shrubbery.
2014-03-23 10:48:26 AM  
2 votes:
Dont songs become public domain after a certain amount of time
2014-03-23 10:28:53 AM  
2 votes:
♫ ♪ Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you,  ....... ♪

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2014-03-23 10:23:00 AM  
2 votes:

browser_snake: No news here. If you have a bar that has music of any sort, you need to be a BMI member. They are seeking statutory damages, which means there's a standard amount of liability that's awarded so often, it doesn't even need to be documented in the lawsuit paperwork - they just cite the statute.


Not quite music of any sort, we have a local bar that hosts live bands, the rule is no covers, only original compositions so you can imagine how bad some of the music is (though you do get the occasional gem mixed in), regardless they received a demand letter from BMI who claimed to own copyright on several of the songs, they backed down when they found out that the bar kept recordings of every performance and had copies of all the named bands copyright filings on their songs. One semi amusing thing that happened was that a couple of the bands that BMI named in their original demand letter as having played covers of BMI songs filed Slander of Title suits against BMI, never did find out what happened with those
2014-03-23 10:16:39 AM  
2 votes:
WTF does Body Mass Index have to do with playing music????


/mindblown!
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-03-23 10:10:33 AM  
2 votes:
rilm.files.wordpress.com

The bullshiat continues.
2014-03-23 10:02:44 AM  
2 votes:

HotIgneous Intruder: But not so incalculable as to be beyond the ability of lawyers to determine a hard figure.


Never.
You now owe me a gazillion dollars.


/not a lawyer
//plays one on the internet
///sued slashies
2014-03-23 09:53:49 AM  
2 votes:
I wish it actually did do great and incalculable damage.
2014-03-23 08:58:48 AM  
2 votes:
2014-03-23 04:30:49 PM  
1 votes:

bunner: Fuggin Bizzy: bunner: Every cover song is somebody's original song.  So it goes.  And if we don't start laying down our 9.99 for stuff we like, we're all gonna end up in your bedrooms with a copy of Reaper, a Casio and our little sister trying to howl her way through our latest opus in Gm because the people who are good at it all work at Home Depot, now.

I buy copies of all the music I listen to (with the exception of Spotify, where I pay $5 a month to find/try new music before I buy it) and I always have. But there has to be a happy medium somewhere in between "Music should be free because after all the Internet" and the strong-arm tactics of gold-digging groups like the RIAA and BMI.

Agreed.  I believe it more then likely simply honesty and fairness on the part of the people who both produce and own music keeping each other's lights on.  Nobody would have the balls to walk into a McDonalds and leave 99¢ on the counter for a 4.99 sandwich, but yet, a 45 costs 1.09 in 1964 and so far, it hasn't been caught up to infaltion.  And yet, you're buying something you want that you can keep forever and keeping the people who make it living indoors.  That's a fair deal and the more peope wh subscribe to it, the better music will be.


Then bar owners should also get a discount for any deaf patrons in the place.
2014-03-23 03:41:56 PM  
1 votes:
Bowel Movement Inc?
2014-03-23 03:20:38 PM  
1 votes:
Any performance of music "outside a normal circle of family and friends" is considered a public performance that requires permission from the copyright holder.

Okay legal GEDs, I'm curious where the cut-off is.  How about the dude murdering Mr. Tambourine Man on open-mic night at the shopping mall?  What about the chubby chick with the cute face singing the Amy Grant songs in your local megachurch?    How about the guy playing playing Stairway to Heaven on the musical saw in the subway?  All meat for the lawyers?
2014-03-23 02:44:03 PM  
1 votes:
I wish dick cancer on all of the plaintiffs and their lawyers.
2014-03-23 12:47:10 PM  
1 votes:

Valiente: Given my age, if I'm lucky, I'll have ten to fifteen years of listening to the hits of 1980 after the last monstrously self-regarding boomer is drooling into his or her Depends.


Yeah, the boomers.  How about you put a band together and blow all those old, stupid old people old songs off the radio.  S'easy.
2014-03-23 12:45:06 PM  
1 votes:

Relatively Obscure: I wish it actually did do great and incalculable damage.


I tire of classic rawk, too. Given my age, if I'm lucky, I'll have ten to fifteen years of listening to the hits of 1980 after the last monstrously self-regarding boomer is drooling into his or her Depends.
2014-03-23 12:17:26 PM  
1 votes:

stuffy: Of course the people who wrote/sang those song will never see a dime.


Again, actually, they do.  Dime is apt, but.. dimes none the less.
2014-03-23 12:16:38 PM  
1 votes:

MFK: Stoker: Farking parasites.

yeah, the musicians who spent all the time and money crafting, recording and distributing the music you want to hear when you go out to the bar are farking parasites for demanding compensation from people who use their work in their commercial endeavors.


The musicians aren't demanding compensation, the recording company is.  If damages are awarded, the artists won't see a penny of it.

Hell, even a tapeworm can't absorb all of the nutrients you take in. These guys are worse than parasites.
2014-03-23 11:42:54 AM  
1 votes:

wambu: As annoying and as seemingly unreasonable it is, it's the law


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2014-03-23 11:29:20 AM  
1 votes:
The cover band is not responsible for the license fees: the venue is. This is pretty common knowledge and I'm guessing that 69 Taps has been being a jerk about paying the licensing fee.

As annoying and as seemingly unreasonable it is, it's the law. Don't want to pay the fee" don't play the music.

I used to have a place where I was the only musician to perform (cocktail piano) and, yes, I had to pay the licensing fee. The BMI rep wasn't a jerk about it; it was just business. No threats.

I also had this conversation a few times:

"How much do you get paid to play here?"
"Not very much [grin], why?"
"If you join the union, we can make the scumbag owner pay you more."
"Probably not. I'm also the scumbag owner. Any other benefits to union membership?"
"Oh, forget it."
2014-03-23 11:15:24 AM  
1 votes:

unitednihilists: They had it coming, any band who plays "talk dirty to me' by Poison. Should be sent to Gitmo or somewhere equally heinous.


Exactly. The bar should just argue the band was was just doing a parody by making fun of all these cheesy old played out songs and the aging rockers that composed them. Bonus if the lead singer is bald and wears a bandana on his head.
2014-03-23 11:04:10 AM  
1 votes:
The next big thing in bars.....Total Silence
2014-03-23 10:40:41 AM  
1 votes:
What is a Kasbah and did they rock it ?
2014-03-23 10:24:47 AM  
1 votes:
They had it coming, any band who plays "talk dirty to me' by Poison. Should be sent to Gitmo or somewhere equally heinous.
2014-03-23 10:18:16 AM  
1 votes:

RY28: MaudlinMutantMollusk: DON'T PLAY FREE BIRD, MAN!

Thats odd . Freebird hasn't been cover band material for at least 20 years now .


Apparently the cover band in TFA missed the memo
2014-03-23 10:14:49 AM  
1 votes:
The only people complaining about this lawsuit  are those who have never created anything of value.
2014-03-23 10:13:26 AM  
1 votes:

TheOther: The Shareef don't like it


He thinks it's not Kosher.
2014-03-23 10:07:40 AM  
1 votes:
Does BMI have a network of undercover moles in every bar? How do they know this happened? Any proof?
2014-03-23 10:01:49 AM  
1 votes:
Was this the band?

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//hot-ish
2014-03-23 09:57:49 AM  
1 votes:
But not so incalculable as to be beyond the ability of lawyers to determine a hard figure.
2014-03-23 09:52:48 AM  
1 votes:
31.media.tumblr.com
perfectlycursedlife.com
2014-03-23 08:32:52 AM  
1 votes:
Were they using 'Fat Strats' for a heavy sound?
 
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