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2014-03-22 10:33:58 PM  
yeah but Cap catches it with his hands and absorbs some of the momentum with a braking action (think of his arms as a shock absorber) before it hits his torso and it moves the rest of him.
 
2014-03-22 10:36:46 PM  
also the shield when thrown at the Winter Soldier doesn't even move his mechanical arm or his body,or dent the shield, so what kind of mass does the Winter Soldier have?
 
2014-03-22 10:42:06 PM  
MST3k Mantra.
MST3k Mantra.
MST3k Mantra.
 
2014-03-22 10:42:42 PM  
It would be simpler to call the prop department and ask them to weigh it.
 
2014-03-22 10:45:51 PM  
I wish a movie would be made about the Gray Hulk just so Wired can waste time figuring out if it's realistically possible for Hulk to go from green to gray.
 
2014-03-22 10:46:35 PM  
It's 12 pounds, because Marvel Says So.
 
2014-03-22 10:47:11 PM  
Isn't this exercise kind of pointless when Vibranium has physical properties that violate the normal laws of physics?
 
2014-03-22 10:52:17 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Isn't this exercise kind of pointless when Vibranium has physical properties that violate the normal laws of physics?


winner!
 
2014-03-22 10:56:01 PM  
Link goes to a bunch of math.

Are there no more celebrity tits? Are there no more hot teachers banging students?
 
2014-03-22 10:56:46 PM  

treesloth: Mad_Radhu: Isn't this exercise kind of pointless when Vibranium has physical properties that violate the normal laws of physics?

winner!


Reminds me of the Thor's hammer weight discussion.  The results ranged from 200lbs to "if he sets it down it would instantly sink to the center of the earth and alter the orbit of the Sun."
 
2014-03-22 10:59:08 PM  
Also subby is a farktard. The article author is solving for mass, not weight.
 
2014-03-22 11:00:22 PM  

Yaw String: It would be simpler to call the prop department and ask them to weigh it.


Or just ask Stephen Colbert.
 
2014-03-22 11:03:49 PM  
I remember when the Captain was using that photon shield thing for a bit while he was in exile.  I thought it was pretty cool.
 
2014-03-22 11:12:04 PM  
Isn't the winter soldier's arm vibranium too? That would just absorb the energy of the impact, hence the lack of motion when he catches it.
 
2014-03-22 11:15:51 PM  
so... Wakanda is the only place in the world with vibranium but Black Panther doesn't use it and Captain AMERICA does.

/America fark yeah
 
2014-03-22 11:16:06 PM  
It's not real. It's a comic book.
 
2014-03-22 11:20:18 PM  
What's the molecular mass of vibranium?
 
2014-03-22 11:22:54 PM  

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Also subby is a farktard. The article author is solving for mass, not weight.


Mad_Radhu: Isn't this exercise kind of pointless when Vibranium has physical properties that violate the normal laws of physics?


jayhawk88: It's 12 pounds, because Marvel Says So.


EbolaNYC: It's not real. It's a comic book.


and there ya go... g'night my fellow farktards
 
2014-03-22 11:27:26 PM  

Plant Rights Activist: so... Wakanda is the only place in the world with vibranium but Black Panther doesn't use it and Captain AMERICA does.

/America fark yeah


No, Wakanda has the single largest deposit of the stuff (I'm pretty sure it's an old meteor). All the other sources are pretty much tapped, Wakanda is the only place w/ any left. Also, Black Panther uses that shiat in almost everything, specifically his claws. I think he weaves it into his suit, too, and it's part of the power sources/batteries for a lot of the Wakanda defense tech.
 
2014-03-22 11:33:42 PM  

BigLuca: treesloth: Mad_Radhu: Isn't this exercise kind of pointless when Vibranium has physical properties that violate the normal laws of physics?

winner!

Reminds me of the Thor's hammer weight discussion.  The results ranged from 200lbs to "if he sets it down it would instantly sink to the center of the earth and alter the orbit of the Sun."


That was my question when Thor drops it on the carrier during "The Avengers". Wouldn't it tear a hole in the deck?
 
2014-03-22 11:37:32 PM  

fusillade762: BigLuca: treesloth: Mad_Radhu: Isn't this exercise kind of pointless when Vibranium has physical properties that violate the normal laws of physics?

winner!

Reminds me of the Thor's hammer weight discussion.  The results ranged from 200lbs to "if he sets it down it would instantly sink to the center of the earth and alter the orbit of the Sun."

That was my question when Thor drops it on the carrier during "The Avengers". Wouldn't it tear a hole in the deck?


"If WHOMEVER holds this hammer..."
It is magic, it applies a spell about when a person tries to pick it up. Since you can't chain a pick up to it and pull, either, I doubt Ultron can pick it up, either, or any other robots. But putting it down on something doesn't crush whatever is underneath it. It would have killed Loki at the end of Thor 1, otherwise. I'm kind of hoping there's a joke in Avengers 2 when Thor uses it as a paper weight.
 
2014-03-22 11:39:06 PM  

fusillade762: BigLuca: treesloth: Mad_Radhu: Isn't this exercise kind of pointless when Vibranium has physical properties that violate the normal laws of physics?

winner!

Reminds me of the Thor's hammer weight discussion.  The results ranged from 200lbs to "if he sets it down it would instantly sink to the center of the earth and alter the orbit of the Sun."

That was my question when Thor drops it on the carrier during "The Avengers". Wouldn't it tear a hole in the deck?


I just assume that the Asgardians have some sort of magical technology that is able to greatly increase the interia of an object without increasing the mass at the same time because they know some things about physics we don't.
 
2014-03-22 11:41:16 PM  

BigLuca: Reminds me of the Thor's hammer weight discussion.  The results ranged from 200lbs to "if he sets it down it would instantly sink to the center of the earth and alter the orbit of the Sun."


it couldn't be two hundred pounds. In the second Thor flick he hung it on a coat hanger.

It's magic - it's as heavy as it needs to be.
 
2014-03-22 11:42:23 PM  

fusillade762: BigLuca: treesloth: Mad_Radhu: Isn't this exercise kind of pointless when Vibranium has physical properties that violate the normal laws of physics?

winner!

Reminds me of the Thor's hammer weight discussion.  The results ranged from 200lbs to "if he sets it down it would instantly sink to the center of the earth and alter the orbit of the Sun."

That was my question when Thor drops it on the carrier during "The Avengers". Wouldn't it tear a hole in the deck?


Just like when the Black Widow knocked out a guy with her hair ... I've decided not to think to hard about such things.
 
2014-03-22 11:43:32 PM  

fusillade762: BigLuca: treesloth: Mad_Radhu: Isn't this exercise kind of pointless when Vibranium has physical properties that violate the normal laws of physics?

winner!

Reminds me of the Thor's hammer weight discussion.  The results ranged from 200lbs to "if he sets it down it would instantly sink to the center of the earth and alter the orbit of the Sun."

That was my question when Thor drops it on the carrier during "The Avengers". Wouldn't it tear a hole in the deck?


Not being able to lift it has absolutely nothing to to with his strength. It's magic. Hulk can't lift it, for instance. He can just barely get it to scrape across the ground. And Hulk is far stronger than Thor is (but Thor + Mjolnir together is much stronger than Hulk up to a point).
 
2014-03-22 11:46:29 PM  

Trocadero: fusillade762: BigLuca: treesloth: Mad_Radhu: Isn't this exercise kind of pointless when Vibranium has physical properties that violate the normal laws of physics?

winner!

Reminds me of the Thor's hammer weight discussion.  The results ranged from 200lbs to "if he sets it down it would instantly sink to the center of the earth and alter the orbit of the Sun."

That was my question when Thor drops it on the carrier during "The Avengers". Wouldn't it tear a hole in the deck?

"If WHOMEVER holds this hammer..."
It is magic, it applies a spell about when a person tries to pick it up. Since you can't chain a pick up to it and pull, either, I doubt Ultron can pick it up, either, or any other robots. But putting it down on something doesn't crush whatever is underneath it. It would have killed Loki at the end of Thor 1, otherwise. I'm kind of hoping there's a joke in Avengers 2 when Thor uses it as a paper weight.


I thought the Hulk could lift it?  I think that happened in the comics at least, probably not canon though...
 
2014-03-22 11:51:05 PM  

BigLuca: Trocadero: fusillade762: BigLuca: treesloth: Mad_Radhu: Isn't this exercise kind of pointless when Vibranium has physical properties that violate the normal laws of physics?

winner!

Reminds me of the Thor's hammer weight discussion.  The results ranged from 200lbs to "if he sets it down it would instantly sink to the center of the earth and alter the orbit of the Sun."

That was my question when Thor drops it on the carrier during "The Avengers". Wouldn't it tear a hole in the deck?

"If WHOMEVER holds this hammer..."
It is magic, it applies a spell about when a person tries to pick it up. Since you can't chain a pick up to it and pull, either, I doubt Ultron can pick it up, either, or any other robots. But putting it down on something doesn't crush whatever is underneath it. It would have killed Loki at the end of Thor 1, otherwise. I'm kind of hoping there's a joke in Avengers 2 when Thor uses it as a paper weight.

I thought the Hulk could lift it?  I think that happened in the comics at least, probably not canon though...


Yes, but barely, and it seriously freaked out Thor and the other Asgardians. If Hulk punched a hole in the Multiverse and brought Uncle Ben back to life, it'd be more plausible than Superboy Prime.
 
2014-03-22 11:51:11 PM  

Trocadero: fusillade762: BigLuca: treesloth: Mad_Radhu: Isn't this exercise kind of pointless when Vibranium has physical properties that violate the normal laws of physics?

winner!

Reminds me of the Thor's hammer weight discussion.  The results ranged from 200lbs to "if he sets it down it would instantly sink to the center of the earth and alter the orbit of the Sun."

That was my question when Thor drops it on the carrier during "The Avengers". Wouldn't it tear a hole in the deck?

"If WHOMEVER holds this hammer..."
It is magic, it applies a spell about when a person tries to pick it up. Since you can't chain a pick up to it and pull, either, I doubt Ultron can pick it up, either, or any other robots. But putting it down on something doesn't crush whatever is underneath it. It would have killed Loki at the end of Thor 1, otherwise. I'm kind of hoping there's a joke in Avengers 2 when Thor uses it as a paper weight.


I don't understand why this is such a hard concept. i understood it when I was 5 and reading the comics.
If it had to do with weight Hulk would have been able to pick it up, since hulk is strongest there is.

There have been times when even Thor couldn't pick up his own hammer because he was acting like a dbag and it found him unworthy.
 
2014-03-22 11:52:51 PM  

BigLuca: Trocadero: fusillade762: BigLuca: treesloth: Mad_Radhu: Isn't this exercise kind of pointless when Vibranium has physical properties that violate the normal laws of physics?

winner!

Reminds me of the Thor's hammer weight discussion.  The results ranged from 200lbs to "if he sets it down it would instantly sink to the center of the earth and alter the orbit of the Sun."

That was my question when Thor drops it on the carrier during "The Avengers". Wouldn't it tear a hole in the deck?

"If WHOMEVER holds this hammer..."
It is magic, it applies a spell about when a person tries to pick it up. Since you can't chain a pick up to it and pull, either, I doubt Ultron can pick it up, either, or any other robots. But putting it down on something doesn't crush whatever is underneath it. It would have killed Loki at the end of Thor 1, otherwise. I'm kind of hoping there's a joke in Avengers 2 when Thor uses it as a paper weight.

I thought the Hulk could lift it?  I think that happened in the comics at least, probably not canon though...


That's the problem with comics. You can find it happening at some point somewhere, when the authors of that particular book needed to make a point about something. Probably that Thor was a wuss and Hulk was god-like again.
 
2014-03-22 11:54:49 PM  
When I was reading Thor in the late 70s early 80s only two people other than Thor had picked up the hammer. Cap and Beta Ray Bill.
 
2014-03-23 12:04:08 AM  
The article is a waste of time for the wrong reason... it's a fictional creation so the question is not how much does it weigh (that is decided by its cerators) you take that information and then write 1200 words about why the physics were totally off in the movie. Duh!

/dorks
 
2014-03-23 12:08:25 AM  
43.9 lbs

There. I just gave you the answer to the test.

/I was told there would be no math.
 
2014-03-23 12:10:33 AM  
Didn't Black Panther recently make all the vibranium inert or something?
 
2014-03-23 12:27:04 AM  
You take your math and you go to hell subby.
 
2014-03-23 12:27:23 AM  

Trocadero: Plant Rights Activist: so... Wakanda is the only place in the world with vibranium but Black Panther doesn't use it and Captain AMERICA does.

/America fark yeah

No, Wakanda has the single largest deposit of the stuff (I'm pretty sure it's an old meteor). All the other sources are pretty much tapped, Wakanda is the only place w/ any left. Also, Black Panther uses that shiat in almost everything, specifically his claws. I think he weaves it into his suit, too, and it's part of the power sources/batteries for a lot of the Wakanda defense tech.


Yeah, this is how you know it's the comics - The most technologically advanced nation in the world is in sub-Saharan Africa.
 
2014-03-23 12:33:54 AM  

Space Station Wagon: When I was reading Thor in the late 70s early 80s only two people other than Thor had picked up the hammer. Cap and Beta Ray Bill.


I think Superman did in some Marvel/DC crossover.
 
2014-03-23 12:39:30 AM  

Sgt Otter: I think Superman did in some Marvel/DC crossover.


He did, but Odin lifted the worthiness enchantment to allow him to do so. The Asgardians are Norse gods, worthiness also includes being a warrior, which Superman is not. Wonder Woman probably could have lifted it without special dispensation though, don't recall if that was covered in that series.
 
2014-03-23 12:47:39 AM  
So what happens if Thor drops his hammer in outer space and someone else tries to grab it while it's just floating around?
 
2014-03-23 12:48:02 AM  

Boojum2k: Wonder Woman probably could have lifted it without special dispensation though


She can lift it.

images.byrnerobotics.com

Sgt Otter:  I think Superman did in some Marvel/DC crossover.

Superman can too.

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I think in this situation Thor gave it to him, so that might get around the restriction.

With Wonder Woman it was intrinsic for certain though. She was worthy.
 
2014-03-23 12:56:37 AM  

PIP_the_TROLL: think in this situation Thor gave it to him, so that might get around the restriction


That was the occasion where Odin removed the restriction, Thor explained it afterwards. I guess he figured that, warrior or not, Superman needed the hammer that much at the time.
 
2014-03-23 01:09:01 AM  
I think the shield has whatever mass is appropriate to balance the equation

upload.wikimedia.org

We can derive the forces necessary to account for the variability with u the non-relativistic virtually ejected mass as seen from Captain America's rest frame when he swings his mighty shield

upload.wikimedia.org

..clearly demonstrating that all who choose to oppose Captain America's shield must yield.
 
2014-03-23 01:20:03 AM  
The weight of Thor's hammer is determined by the hammer.  While reacting to Thor, he is directing the hammer based on his wishes.  While he is unworthy of the hammer, the hammer is directing itself.
 
2014-03-23 01:41:41 AM  
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2014-03-23 01:42:07 AM  

PIP_the_TROLL: Boojum2k: Wonder Woman probably could have lifted it without special dispensation though

She can lift it.

[images.byrnerobotics.com image 526x350]

Sgt Otter:  I think Superman did in some Marvel/DC crossover.

Superman can too.

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I think in this situation Thor gave it to him, so that might get around the restriction.

With Wonder Woman it was intrinsic for certain though. She was worthy.


Wait, wasn't the Wonder Woman thing part of the Amalgam Comics line, where the universes were combined?
 
2014-03-23 02:01:47 AM  

saintstryfe: BigLuca: Reminds me of the Thor's hammer weight discussion.  The results ranged from 200lbs to "if he sets it down it would instantly sink to the center of the earth and alter the orbit of the Sun."

it couldn't be two hundred pounds. In the second Thor flick he hung it on a coat hanger.

It's magic - it's as heavy as it needs to be.


I was thinking the same thing.  The hammer gets left on top of all kinds of things and surfaces without crushing them.  The only constant is that no one except Thor (and whatshisface the alien version of Thor) can pick it up or move it.  Nothing else is constant.  Therefor i can determine that it weighs exactly "only Thor can pick it up or move it" pounds.

There, that was easy.

As for Captain America's shield, he's a farking super soldier.  Why would the article even bother saying something stupid like "that would be a heavy shield to carry around and even harder to throw."  Super.  Farking. Soldier.
 
2014-03-23 02:06:09 AM  

Hobodeluxe: yeah but Cap catches it with his hands and absorbs some of the momentum with a braking action (think of his arms as a shock absorber) before it hits his torso and it moves the rest of him.


Derp.
 
2014-03-23 02:11:26 AM  

PIP_the_TROLL: fusillade762: BigLuca: treesloth: Mad_Radhu: Isn't this exercise kind of pointless when Vibranium has physical properties that violate the normal laws of physics?

winner!

Reminds me of the Thor's hammer weight discussion.  The results ranged from 200lbs to "if he sets it down it would instantly sink to the center of the earth and alter the orbit of the Sun."

That was my question when Thor drops it on the carrier during "The Avengers". Wouldn't it tear a hole in the deck?

Not being able to lift it has absolutely nothing to to with his strength. It's magic. Hulk can't lift it, for instance. He can just barely get it to scrape across the ground. And Hulk is far stronger than Thor is (but Thor + Mjolnir together is much stronger than Hulk up to a point).

The Hulk is the strongest mortal, but Thor has stated that he never uses more than a third of his strength against any mortal opponent, except on one occasion (when getting revenge on Iron Man post-Civil War for cloning him). All the times we've seen the Hulk fight Thor to a standstill, that was the Hulk at his strongest against merely a third at most of Thor's strength and power. This is also the only reason that the likes of the Wrecker & Crew could ever even seem to give him pause.

Thor is a god, and not just any god but the god of physical strength (as well as of storms) in the Norse pantheon. Hercules may be stronger still. but lacks Mjolnir. Yet even an Asgardian or Olympian weakling child would be at least equal to, say, Spider-Man in strength, and the average Asgardian warrior (say, Fandral) would be more like the Thing in strength.

Thor only cuts loose against other gods, Frost giants, and the like (fellow immortals). Oh, and Iron Man on that one occasion, but only because he was really ticked.
 
2014-03-23 03:07:42 AM  

Space Station Wagon: Trocadero: fusillade762: BigLuca: treesloth: Mad_Radhu: Isn't this exercise kind of pointless when Vibranium has physical properties that violate the normal laws of physics?

winner!

Reminds me of the Thor's hammer weight discussion.  The results ranged from 200lbs to "if he sets it down it would instantly sink to the center of the earth and alter the orbit of the Sun."

That was my question when Thor drops it on the carrier during "The Avengers". Wouldn't it tear a hole in the deck?

"If WHOMEVER holds this hammer..."
It is magic, it applies a spell about when a person tries to pick it up. Since you can't chain a pick up to it and pull, either, I doubt Ultron can pick it up, either, or any other robots. But putting it down on something doesn't crush whatever is underneath it. It would have killed Loki at the end of Thor 1, otherwise. I'm kind of hoping there's a joke in Avengers 2 when Thor uses it as a paper weight.

I don't understand why this is such a hard concept. i understood it when I was 5 and reading the comics.
If it had to do with weight Hulk would have been able to pick it up, since hulk is strongest there is.

There have been times when even Thor couldn't pick up his own hammer because he was acting like a dbag and it found him unworthy.


"I should have known the Pterataur didn't mean us any harm when the Sword of Omens didn't obey me.  And anyway, it was just plain stupid to assume it might be bad just...what the fark am I talking about?"


/I'm going to put this one right between her pretty...
//And keep your foot off that blasted Sammophlange!
 
2014-03-23 03:44:51 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Isn't this exercise kind of pointless when Vibranium has physical properties that violate the normal laws of physics?


Yep. Sounds to me like someone hasn't read their comics, and by "someone" I mean Rhett Allain.
 
2014-03-23 03:50:05 AM  

Plant Rights Activist: so... Wakanda is the only place in the world with vibranium but Black Panther doesn't use it and Captain AMERICA does.

/America fark yeah


I thought black panther's whole thing was vibranium and other magitek doohickeys.  I know he uses the vibranium claws and night-vision at minimum most of the time, but isn't he basically magitek batman overall?

// Albeit with a restrained sense of the ridiculous where he doesn't name his magitek jet the panther-plane or whatever the fark.
 
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