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2014-03-22 07:02:49 PM  
Not once during his presidency has Obama ever had to deal with a rabbit out to attack him.  Other than that, what could Carter have to offer?
 
2014-03-22 07:13:40 PM  

Prey4reign: Not once during his presidency has Obama ever had to deal with a rabbit out to attack him.  Other than that, what could Carter have to offer?


Peanuts.
 
2014-03-22 07:14:24 PM  

Prey4reign: Not once during his presidency has Obama ever had to deal with a rabbit out to attack him.  Other than that, what could Carter have to offer?


A giant, swimming rabbit!
 
2014-03-22 07:17:52 PM  

Prey4reign: Not once during his presidency has Obama ever had to deal with a rabbit out to attack him.  Other than that, what could Carter have to offer?


Well Carter was a nuclear engineer, so he has that going for him.  Then the whole arbitrating gains in positive movement towards peace in the Middle East.

But what the hell, if Obama is ever choking on a pretzel or wants to start pre-emptive wars on non-agressor nations, he can call George W. Bush
 
2014-03-22 07:17:52 PM  
Or maybe Fartbongo thinks he knows better than everybody else.  Nobody does, that's why you call past presidents for advice.
 
2014-03-22 07:18:52 PM  

HawgWild: Prey4reign: Not once during his presidency has Obama ever had to deal with a rabbit out to attack him.  Other than that, what could Carter have to offer?

A giant, swimming rabbit!


With nasty, big, point teeth!
 
2014-03-22 07:21:13 PM  
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2014-03-22 07:24:21 PM  
Who knew Obama might have issues with a guy who got his political career rolling by sucking up to Lester Maddox?
 
2014-03-22 07:26:10 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Or maybe Fartbongo thinks he knows better than everybody else.  Nobody does, that's why you call past presidents for advice.


Well he certainly knows more than you, cause you're not president.

As much as I like Jimmy Carter: he hasn't been president for 30 + years.
 
2014-03-22 07:29:06 PM  
Not to be too cynical here, but it's not like the middle East was a utopian society when Carter left office. I think Carter has done some great things since leaving office.  But you have to wonder if all those former presidents called him asking for his opinion and noted what not to do.
 
2014-03-22 07:29:19 PM  

Summoner101: HawgWild: Prey4reign: Not once during his presidency has Obama ever had to deal with a rabbit out to attack him.  Other than that, what could Carter have to offer?

A giant, swimming rabbit!

With nasty, big, point teeth!


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2014-03-22 07:30:39 PM  
Considering the nature of the job, I'd be surprised if any president didn't spend time on the phone with all previous living presidents as he worked through various issues.

/sort of like being able to call the previous coder and ask "sooo... What specifically was the idea behind this piece of work?"
/doesn't mean you have to agree with the idea. But who else would know the details?
 
2014-03-22 07:32:55 PM  
Jimmy Carter is what we in The Fates call "a cautionary tale".

To make up for things we give them good teeth. Unless the cautionary tale will be about meth, then why waste good teeth on them. I mean, that would be like putting Oreos on a pizza.
 
2014-03-22 07:33:06 PM  

Prey4reign: Not once during his presidency has Obama ever had to deal with a rabbit out to attack him.  Other than that, what could Carter have to offer?


How to deal with an out of control nuclear reactor.
 
2014-03-22 07:35:37 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Prey4reign: Not once during his presidency has Obama ever had to deal with a rabbit out to attack him.  Other than that, what could Carter have to offer?

How to deal with an out of control nuclear reactor.


So... he should have been a special envoy to Japan?
 
2014-03-22 07:40:03 PM  
the Carter Center has taken a very strong and public position of equal treatment between the Palestinians and the Israelis

Which would simply fuel the "Muslim usurper" crowd if Obama embraced it.
 
2014-03-22 07:50:52 PM  
why would we be asking a cold warrior how to deal with the post cold war world?
 
2014-03-22 07:52:53 PM  
More importantly, I wonder what his ringtones are for the other Presidents & advisors. Clinton's is probably '99 Problems.'
 
2014-03-22 07:53:09 PM  
You know who else never asked Jimmy Carter for advice?
 
2014-03-22 07:53:46 PM  
The biggest mistake I ever made when voting was to select John Anderson over President Carter in the 1980 election, because we ended up with eight years of presidential senility.
 
2014-03-22 08:06:34 PM  
Yeah. Can't imagine why the guy who was portrayed as Carter 2.0 and/or the guy who was portrayed as worse than Carter because "at least Carter loved his country" would not want to deal with the wingnut gloating about him actually getting advice from Carter.
 
2014-03-22 08:06:46 PM  

stoli n coke: You know who else never asked Jimmy Carter for advice?


Jessica Rabbit?
 
2014-03-22 08:08:32 PM  

stoli n coke: You know who else never asked Jimmy Carter for advice?


Reagan?

splitsider.com
 
2014-03-22 08:11:16 PM  

riverwalk barfly: But you have to wonder if all those former presidents called him asking for his opinion and noted what not to do.


Oh, so THAT's why Clinton passed on merely lusting in his heart.
 
2014-03-22 08:12:33 PM  
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Why would anyone want to remember the president infamously known for bungling the Iranian Hostage Crisis? 

Why would Obama want advice from former President Carter or anything relevant today?

/Carter, one of the last ones with some integrity
 
2014-03-22 08:13:13 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: stoli n coke: You know who else never asked Jimmy Carter for advice?

Jessica Rabbit?



Mantour: stoli n coke: You know who else never asked Jimmy Carter for advice?

Reagan?

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Sorry. The answer we were looking for was Tejano troubadour Freddy Fender.
We would have also accepted Victoria Silvstedt, Playmate of the Year.
 
2014-03-22 08:17:36 PM  

Prey4reign: Not once during his presidency has Obama ever had to deal with a rabbit out to attack him.  Other than that, what could Carter have to offer?


Homebrewing advice.
 
2014-03-22 08:21:08 PM  
I liked serving under President Carter.

He never started a war on sham evidence like Bush II.

He got Israel & Egypt to make peace.

Not that anyone gives him credit, but his actions led to our fellow Americans held hostage by Iran to come home alive.
 
2014-03-22 08:21:52 PM  
Jimmy Carter still has a LOT of experience in the Israeli-Palestinian area, but he's Persona Non Grata with the Israeli's, and any consultation with Jimmy Carter by Obama would simply give the naysayers in Israel more fuel for their distrust of Obama.  In general, I agree; the experience of Jimmy Carter is not going to help Obama too much, as the territory has changed a bit too much.  Oddly, Obama has actually been able to fairly follow up on some of Carter's initiatives (Carter's identification that Oil was the biggest problem US had to face was prophetic - the rush to increase other means of production of energy will be one of Obama's biggest successes - that is my prediction here) but keeping the Israeli's and Palestinians from actively going after each other in a BIG way, has been good enough so far.  That's a LONG game - eventually, the parties have to tire of the stupidity - we can't make them see sense.
 
2014-03-22 08:31:02 PM  
Let's just get 2014's midterm over with so the Republican Congress can govern the nation in wise and august fashion.
 
2014-03-22 08:33:59 PM  
In fairness, this could be because Jimmy's two areas of expertise are not as important in the Obama administration: (1) Michelle took all the peanuts out of the White House garden; (2) Barack doesn't have a brain-damaged relative.
 
2014-03-22 08:35:31 PM  

way south: Considering the nature of the job, I'd be surprised if any president didn't spend time on the phone with all previous living presidents as he worked through various issues.

/sort of like being able to call the previous coder and ask "sooo... What specifically was the idea behind this piece of work?"
/doesn't mean you have to agree with the idea. But who else would know the details?


Just another Reason why Mitt "Charging Cradle" Romney would have been the better choice!
 
2014-03-22 08:37:57 PM  

Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: Let's just get 2014's midterm over with so the Republican Congress can govern the nation in wise and august fashion get paid for doing absolutely nothing instead of just mostly nothing.


FTFY
 
2014-03-22 08:47:31 PM  

AirForceVet: I liked serving under President Carter.

He never started a war on sham evidence like Bush II.

He got Israel & Egypt to make peace.

Not that anyone gives him credit, but his actions led to our fellow Americans held hostage by Iran to come home alive.


Crazy how Reagan gets the credit for the hostages being released and Carter gets the blame for a situation that had been in the works since Ike let the Brits talk him into helping them overthrow the democratically elected government of Iran. But when political thought doesn't go deeper than bumper sticker slogans, that's what we get.
 
2014-03-22 08:56:30 PM  

way south: Considering the nature of the job, I'd be surprised if any president didn't spend time on the phone with all previous living presidents as he worked through various issues.

/sort of like being able to call the previous coder and ask "sooo... What specifically was the idea behind this piece of work?"
/doesn't mean you have to agree with the idea. But who else would know the details?


www.adherents.com
 
2014-03-22 08:56:51 PM  
I guess I'll be the first to say I thought the headline was clever.
 
2014-03-22 08:57:40 PM  

Mantour: stoli n coke: You know who else never asked Jimmy Carter for advice?

Reagan?


Actually, Reagan asked Carter's advice fairly regularly, especially about Africa. He just seldom told anyone about it.
 
2014-03-22 08:59:15 PM  
10 million net jobs were created when Carter was President.

Carter hate is about a mythical "bad" Carter made up by the same Republicans who invent St. Ronnie.
 
2014-03-22 09:01:38 PM  
Unlikely tag on vacation? Looking for a pen?
 
2014-03-22 09:18:21 PM  
Wow. This article came off like the writer was trying way too hard to drum up outrage. Carter basically went, "Meh. We disagree. He doesn't call. Who cares?"

/as opposed to Romney who still doesn't know when to stfu
 
2014-03-22 09:18:55 PM  
Carter hate is about a mythical "bad" Carter made up by the same Republicans who invent St. Ronnie.

1. Carter crippled the nuclear industry in this country by canceling the Clinch River reprocessing plant project.

2. Carter allowed the "Islamic Revolution" to get rolling by failing to go in and kick Iran's ass for taking the hostages. His weakness emboldened Iran and the rest of the middle east radicals like Hezbollah, and ultimately led to 9/11. Because he was a soft headed pussy.

3. He further showed weakness with his half assed "rescue" attempt. His people made the military go in with a minimal force because they were worried they'd look bad if they killed too many "students" during the rescue. Iranians that helped us in setting up the rescue (like Iranian military officials that ordered antiaircraft guns removed from the embassy area for "maintenance" just before the raid were rounded up and shot afterwards)

"Jimmy" Carter's screwups haunt us to this day...

/btw, he was never a nuclear engineer. He was trained by the Navy as a "nuclear engineering officer". He had no engineering degree.
 
2014-03-22 09:28:39 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Prey4reign: Not once during his presidency has Obama ever had to deal with a rabbit out to attack him.  Other than that, what could Carter have to offer?

How to deal with an out of control nuclear reactor.


He could talk a guy trippin' balls on Orange Sunshine down from his peak...
 
2014-03-22 09:36:24 PM  

mark12A: His weakness emboldened Iran and the rest of the middle east radicals like Hezbollah, and ultimately led to 9/11


www.legitgov.org

Nope.  Nothing happened between 1980 and 2001.  Nothing.  Nothing at all.

mark12A: /btw, he was never a nuclear engineer. He was trained by the Navy as a "nuclear engineering officer". He had no engineering degree.


From Wiki:

After high school, Carter enrolled at Georgia Southwestern College, in Americus. Later, he applied to the United States Naval Academy and, after taking additional mathematics courses at Georgia Tech, he was admitted in 1943. Carter graduated 59th out of 820 midshipmen at the Naval Academy with a Bachelor of Science degree with an unspecified major, as was the custom at the academy at that time.[13] After serving in both the Atlantic and Pacific U.S. Submarine Fleets, Jimmy Carter attended graduate school at Union College, majoring in reactor technology and nuclear physics.[14][15]

Carter served on surface ships and on diesel-electric submarines in the Atlantic and Pacific fleets. As a junior officer, he completed qualification for command of a diesel-electric submarine. He applied for the US Navy's fledgling nuclear submarine program run by then Captain Hyman G. Rickover. Rickover's demands on his men and machines were legendary, and Carter later said that, next to his parents, Rickover had the greatest influence on him. Carter has said that he loved the Navy, and had planned to make it his career. His ultimate goal was to become Chief of Naval Operations. Carter felt the best route for promotion was with submarine duty since he felt that nuclear power would be increasingly used in submarines. Carter was based in Schenectady, New York, and worked on developing training materials for the nuclear propulsion system for the prototype of a new submarine.[16]

On December 12, 1952, an accident with the experimental NRX reactor at Atomic Energy of Canada's Chalk River Laboratories caused a partial meltdown. The resulting explosion caused millions of liters of radioactive water to flood the reactor building's basement, and the reactor's core was no longer usable.[17] Carter was ordered to Chalk River, joining other American and Canadian service personnel. He was the officer in charge of the U.S. team assisting in the shutdown of the Chalk River Nuclear Reactor.[18]

Once they arrived, Carter's team used a model of the reactor to practice the steps necessary to disassemble the reactor and seal it off. During execution of the disassembly, each team member, including Carter, donned protective gear, was lowered individually into the reactor, where he could stay for only a few seconds at a time to minimize exposure to radiation. They had to use hand tools to loosen bolts, remove nuts, and take the other steps necessary to complete the disassembly process.


His experience seems extensive enough to me to qualify contrary to your pedantry.

Not to say Carter was an exceptional President.  He wasn't.  He's a pretty exceptional human being though.
 
2014-03-22 09:46:45 PM  

mark12A: He further showed weakness with his half assed "rescue" attempt. His people made the military go in with a minimal force because they were worried they'd look bad if they killed too many "students" during the rescue. Iranians that helped us in setting up the rescue (like Iranian military officials that ordered antiaircraft guns removed from the embassy area for "maintenance" just before the raid were rounded up and shot afterwards)


Remember when he cut and ran after the Beruit bombing?  Oh wait. That was Ronald Reagan.

Reagan, the hero of invading Grenada, an Island with a population of 90K people.
 
2014-03-22 10:12:50 PM  

Summoner101: He's a pretty exceptional human being though.


Just keep him far, far away from anything to do with foreign policy.

That wasn't peace he brought about at Camp David. That was us throwing buckets of money at Egypt's dictatorship to keep the crazies under the boot, and more buckets of money at Israel just to keep things square. It may have kept a lid on things, but don't call it peace. It was never going to be sustainable.
 
2014-03-22 10:12:55 PM  
My kids used to volunteer for Habitat for Humanity and I would tell them, if they ever saw Jimmy Carter, to punch him in the nose for me. When they hit 18 I told them not to; they could be arrested.

Carter is entirely in the pocket of Arab interests, which bailed him out of financial woes at various times and largely fund his charitable organizations. A pre-existing genteel anti-semitism of the country club variety makes it easy for him to shill for the Palestinian cause. He is not a mensch. He's more of a gonif.
 
2014-03-22 10:21:50 PM  

Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: Let's just get 2014's midterm over with so the Republican Congress can govern the nation in wise and august fashion.


From where the lunatic asylum? Because at the rate they are going, the only vote they have locked up is the clinically insane.

(Yes, and the South, but I repeat myself..)
 
2014-03-22 10:25:59 PM  

Summoner101: mark12A: His weakness emboldened Iran and the rest of the middle east radicals like Hezbollah, and ultimately led to 9/11

www.legitgov.org

Nope. Nothing happened between 1980 and 2001. Nothing. Nothing at all.


I'll take it further:
Mark you piece of crap trolling crud.  Osama Bin Laden was embolden by Reagan cutting and running from Lebanon.  How do we know this?  Bin Laden himself said this.  Because Reagan's cowardliness proved to Bin Laden that the US was weak and that terrorism can be used to control US foreign policy.
 
NFA
2014-03-22 10:27:38 PM  
Actually Carter was never as bad as people like to claim.  He had horrible financial problems on his plate at the time.  Massive deficit spending was considered absolutely insane in those days.  When Reagan came in to office, he flooded the economy with government money, tripling the national debt.  Reagan is the founding father of our massive federal debt cycle.  Which of course the conservatives have twisted and spun to claim it was the democrats, "tax and spend policies".

Had we followed Carters advice of not spending ourselves bankrupt, America would be far more financially healthy today.  Reaganism has proven to be a long term economy killer
 
2014-03-22 10:42:20 PM  
Love the headline, subs.
 
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