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2014-03-22 02:46:26 PM  
The remote control, The?
 
2014-03-22 02:46:31 PM  
I've wanted a remote that acts like a Wiimote since I first got my Wii, with more on-screen UI options. They would make navigating DVD/BD menus and TV Guide menus way more easier with a point-click interface, instead of using a terrible circular d-pad and enter button on the remote to interact with screen objects.

/don't know if they've done that yet
 
2014-03-22 02:47:30 PM  

theMightyRegeya: The solution to bad remotes is to buy a universal remote? Yeah...no.


No, really, it is. It really does fix those problems.
 
2014-03-22 02:48:36 PM  

gwenners: The Remote Control The?


Guess I should have read the thread before posting....
 
2014-03-22 02:53:17 PM  
img1.wikia.nocookie.net

DOES NOT APPROVE


/Another satisfied Harmony user.
//Great for visiting family.  "How do I turn on the TV?" "Press the 'Watch TV' button"
 
2014-03-22 02:55:46 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: For the old folks that grew up with the clunk-clunk-clunk of the 2-13 channel changer knob.

[s30.postimg.org image 540x547]
One man's solution to make his remote control "old-people friendly"


My in-laws came to visit (Unannounced! For the weekend!) last year. We managed to rearrange most of our schedule, but had one thing we had to attend to. I gave them a quick primer in "How to use the remote" before we left for a few hours. Basically, it was, "Push the button labeled 'Watch TV' while pointing the remote toward the TV cabinet. It's set up to make sure the things that need to be on will turn on and everything is set to the correct input. Then all you need is volume up and down, channel up and down, guide and the number pad."

We came home a few hours later to all the find all the TV cabinet's doors open, and the TV (not the A/V receiver) on nearly full blast playing one of the music service channels. "We couldn't figure out that damn remote."

/That same trip my father-in-law managed to flood the upstairs bathroom, and wreck the ceiling in the kitchen, because he "didn't realize" you have to put the shower curtain *inside* the tub when taking a shower.
 
2014-03-22 02:57:05 PM  

whereisian: theMightyRegeya: The solution to bad remotes is to buy a universal remote? Yeah...no.

No, really, it is. It really does fix those problems.


^this^
 
2014-03-22 03:00:24 PM  

BlackMtnMan: I haven't watched TV in 13 years.  Problem solved.


Trolling or not, there is plenty of truth to this. Over-the-air TV and classic cable seem headed to the same slow, agonizing death that land lines are going through. For example, my wife and I gave up our DirecTV subscription several years ago in favor of Amazon Prime, Netflix and a Roku, and have never looked back. And we're old. I can just imaging that younger folks are well ahead of us on the technology curve. Once live sports are online we can stick a fork in TV. Your laptop, phablet or iPad will deliver all you need.
 
2014-03-22 03:01:32 PM  
Come to think of it, I have several Harmony remotes in a box - 676, 770, maybe a 670... none of them worked with Windows 7, IIRC.  Couldn't set them up at all.
 
2014-03-22 03:01:48 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: f TV needs to be "saved" it is going to come by the way of everything streaming at any time without expensive packages or plans.


TBH, I think this needs to stay as a separate box.  A lot of people buy TVs the way I do: has the the old one stops working?  If so, buy a new TV; if not, tough it out.  My current TV is 7 years old and still kicking, and counting the 19" my wife had in school, is only the 4th we've ever bought.  We wouldn't have even been up to #4 if it hadn't been for freak thunderstorms taking out two of them.

And things can change fast.  One of the selling points of my stereo head unit is that it was Internet capable, and had Spotify support along with several other services I've never heard of (and unless I'm wrong, no longer exist.)  Nowadays, given how Spotify has (imho) gone far downhill--honestly, it's great how I lose the ability to play on this device for days on end, and it's stunning how my phone's app will up and decide in the middle of a road trip that I don't have any offline music downloaded--I'd love to cancel that and go with either Google Music All Access or, hell, even the iTunes streaming service, but the unit doesn't support either of those.  It has the capability to be updated, but I think the manufacturer stopped providing updates after a year.
 
2014-03-22 03:06:39 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: Gunboat: Jesus. I am out if touch with this thread. I don't own a television and haven't for years. I watch everything online.

Great savings, too, not paying for cable

What kind of internet provider are you using?There really isn't much of a difference in price for not having cable tv in addition to internet in my experience. Also, many shows require you have a TV provider to watch them online, unless of course you boot-leg or torrent shiat. TVs are so cheap now, I am surprised you don't have one. For the sheer fact that you can watch a Blu Ray or equal movie on a 48"W + screen it is worth it.


maybe in a civilized place. $75 for 50mbps. another 40-100 to add TV from Comcast here. And yay, duopoly, with the other internet provider only offering 6mbps.
 
2014-03-22 03:07:15 PM  

Pokey.Clyde: Benevolent Misanthrope: Gecko, I've been thinking to get a Harmony One, even though I have to get a PS3 extension for it. I assume you would recommend?

I'll second Gecko's endorsement. I had a 520 for years, and then a few months ago got a Harmony One. I have yet to have any trouble with either one of them. You simply plug them in to your computer with a USB cable, and run a wizard to program them. The hardest part is moving your electronics around to get all of the model numbers!


I would love to simplify but I've got four different TVs in different parts of the house and three different DVD players. All are hooked up to Uverse (which costs a damned fortune) because I am overwhelmed at the prospect of paying for/setting up any sort of Netflix or Apple TV or Roku or whatever in all the rooms. Also I very much enjoy the fact that I can watch part of something upstairs while working out and finish it later in my room at bedtime and I don't know how seamless that would be on a non integrated system. I really would like to change but every time I start researching options I get information overload and just quit.

///First World Problems
 
2014-03-22 03:10:03 PM  

Stone Meadow: What a "remote control" looked like back in my day...
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DON'T FLIP THE DAMN CHANNELS SO FAST OR YOU'LL BREAK THE KNOB!!!!
 
2014-03-22 03:11:15 PM  
Last time I mentioned that my tablet had IR that I used to control my television (as well as TVs at Doctors offices and stores) on Fark some angry dude accused me of having tech that didn't exist.
Did he write this article?

/It's running out of it's 2 yr warranty shortly.  :(
 
2014-03-22 03:14:56 PM  
people who watch TV want things dumbed down for them

THIS IS A STARTLING DEVELOPMENT
 
2014-03-22 03:18:51 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Come to think of it, I have several Harmony remotes in a box - 676, 770, maybe a 670... none of them worked with Windows 7, IIRC.  Couldn't set them up at all.


For the 6xx remotes (the 670 and the 676 are the same):

32-bit
64-bit

Click the appropriate link above. Click the "Downloads" tab. Follow instructions.


I can't find a 770, but assuming all the 7xx remotes are the same:

click here


/I use a Win7 Pro 64-bit machine with no problems to program my Ones and my 550.
 
2014-03-22 03:19:28 PM  

rwhamann: the money is in the banana stand: Gunboat: Jesus. I am out if touch with this thread. I don't own a television and haven't for years. I watch everything online.

Great savings, too, not paying for cable

What kind of internet provider are you using?There really isn't much of a difference in price for not having cable tv in addition to internet in my experience. Also, many shows require you have a TV provider to watch them online, unless of course you boot-leg or torrent shiat. TVs are so cheap now, I am surprised you don't have one. For the sheer fact that you can watch a Blu Ray or equal movie on a 48"W + screen it is worth it.

maybe in a civilized place. $75 for 50mbps. another 40-100 to add TV from Comcast here. And yay, duopoly, with the other internet provider only offering 6mbps.


Ouch. I pay $80/mo for Hi-Speed internet + Cable TV with HBO (have AMC, SyFy etc.). I have a TiVo with a Lifetime sub I bought a long time ago with an HD-Card in it and at the time I had a sub for all of the premium channels. I still get those channels and I don't have to pay the retarded price. Mostly, I stream Netflix movies though or watch shows via OnDemand.
 
2014-03-22 03:22:07 PM  
Heck, even my wifes car has a keyless remote, and when the battery went out on one, it was much easier to have the parts guy at the dealer replace it. The only removeable "key" on the side is just for getting in the car, not starting it.
BTW, when did they stop putting VINs on the drives side? Gosh, I'm old.
 
2014-03-22 03:24:20 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: Mostly, I stream Netflix movies though or watch shows via OnDemand.


I really wish Verizon (and Comcast before them) realized how much money they lost in not allowing me to use their OnDemand services through my TiVo. Oh well, their loss is Netflix's and Amazon's gain.


/Stupid CableLabs
 
2014-03-22 03:27:48 PM  

Combustion: Stone Meadow: What a "remote control" looked like back in my day...
[images.huffingtonpost.com image 850x607]

DON'T FLIP THE DAMN CHANNELS SO FAST OR YOU'LL BREAK THE KNOB!!!!


And don't forget your stupid sister walking past the TV in the living room and giving the knob that fine tuned the channel a twirl right at the critical moment during the football game. Yeah, she wanted to watch some dumb girlie program at the same time as my four brothers and I wanted to watch the ball game, but it was a pure Democracy, ya know...5 votes to 1!
 
2014-03-22 03:32:36 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: Gunboat: Jesus. I am out if touch with this thread. I don't own a television and haven't for years. I watch everything online.

Great savings, too, not paying for cable

What kind of internet provider are you using?There really isn't much of a difference in price for not having cable tv in addition to internet in my experience. Also, many shows require you have a TV provider to watch them online, unless of course you boot-leg or torrent shiat. TVs are so cheap now, I am surprised you don't have one. For the sheer fact that you can watch a Blu Ray or equal movie on a 48"W + screen it is worth it.


Adding cable to my internet would be at least $50/month. Charter Comms.

Laptop plays DVDs.

I use Netflix ($8/month), comedycentral.com (free), other major channel sites (free - cbs abc nbc pbs)
 
2014-03-22 03:33:36 PM  
I can change my Comcast channels via the internet in any room.  I hard ever use the remote anymore..  The X1 app is only really nice.. I can just saying "Watch Comcast Sports Net" and boom. Channel changed.
 
2014-03-22 03:33:42 PM  
I for one prefer not having to sit maddeningly still just to stay on the same channel.
 
2014-03-22 03:37:59 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Benevolent Misanthrope: Come to think of it, I have several Harmony remotes in a box - 676, 770, maybe a 670... none of them worked with Windows 7, IIRC.  Couldn't set them up at all.

For the 6xx remotes (the 670 and the 676 are the same):

32-bit
64-bit

Click the appropriate link above. Click the "Downloads" tab. Follow instructions.


I can't find a 770, but assuming all the 7xx remotes are the same:

click here


/I use a Win7 Pro 64-bit machine with no problems to program my Ones and my 550.


I now have a Win 8 machine [whimper], but I'll try it.  Thanks!
 
2014-03-22 03:47:55 PM  
I'll join the chorus of love for the Harmony One. Once you add a receiver and cable box to the TV, it's really the only way to go. It even works great with my HTPC setup. Although I also have the Yatse app for browsing my XBMC library quicker.

Now that it looks like XBMC and Yatse will push content to a Chromecast, I'm debating picking one up. Does anyone have any experience using it in that capacity?  Does it work as well as it should?
 
2014-03-22 03:54:02 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: From my cold dead hands!


THIS!
 
2014-03-22 04:04:38 PM  
The remote control is not dead yet-although I wish it were so

You sick, murderous bastard.
 
2014-03-22 04:27:15 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: I now have a Win 8 machine [whimper], but I'll try it. Thanks!


You're welcome. On either of the 6xx links, you can pick "Windows 8" from the drop-down on the "Downloads". For the 7xx link, I think it's entire browser based.
 
2014-03-22 04:35:30 PM  
XBMC and Plex(I believe) can both use the android app to control the device you are using their software on.

Really though, I hated it. Finding my phone at 2 am, launching an app the controlling the app sucked. Not mention not having the ability to tactile navigate at 2am.... yeah, forget about it. I'll take 5 remotes for 6 devices any day.

Harmony remite sounds good though.
 
2014-03-22 04:46:42 PM  

Ex-Texan: Heck, even my wifes car has a keyless remote, and when the battery went out on one, it was much easier to have the parts guy at the dealer replace it. The only removeable "key" on the side is just for getting in the car, not starting it.
BTW, when did they stop putting VINs on the drives side? Gosh, I'm old.


You can hold the key (with a dead battery) up against the push-button start as you push it, and it will fire right up.

The battery is really easy to swap.  Probably a CR2032.  Just did mine a month ago.
 
2014-03-22 05:00:27 PM  
My TVs are just big monitors for Mac minis.

My remote control is a laptop with Apple Remote Desktop.

Problem solved.
 
2014-03-22 05:06:36 PM  
This is all you need...

imageshack.com

or at least one of these for your entertainment room...

imageshack.com
 
2014-03-22 05:16:23 PM  

LabGrrl: Last time I mentioned that my tablet had IR that I used to control my television (as well as TVs at Doctors offices and stores) on Fark some angry dude accused me of having tech that didn't exist.
Did he write this article?

/It's running out of it's 2 yr warranty shortly.  :(


my newtown messagepad had IR and could be used as a universal remote, even a kinda cool one, way back in 96. :)
 
2014-03-22 06:01:59 PM  

fredmcmurray: LabGrrl: Last time I mentioned that my tablet had IR that I used to control my television (as well as TVs at Doctors offices and stores) on Fark some angry dude accused me of having tech that didn't exist.
Did he write this article?

/It's running out of it's 2 yr warranty shortly.  :(

my newtown messagepad had IR and could be used as a universal remote, even a kinda cool one, way back in 96. :)


Interesting bit 'o history, the first programmable universal remote was the CL 9...designed by one Steve Wosniak. In fact, it was the reason he left Apple.
 
2014-03-22 06:21:07 PM  

tennesseemike: I never considered using my remote as a chore.


"Okay, Timmy, do your homework, then take out the trash and use the remote before supper!"
 
2014-03-22 06:40:33 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: fredmcmurray: LabGrrl: Last time I mentioned that my tablet had IR that I used to control my television (as well as TVs at Doctors offices and stores) on Fark some angry dude accused me of having tech that didn't exist.
Did he write this article?

/It's running out of it's 2 yr warranty shortly.  :(

my newtown messagepad had IR and could be used as a universal remote, even a kinda cool one, way back in 96. :)

Interesting bit 'o history, the first programmable universal remote was the CL 9...designed by one Steve Wosniak. In fact, it was the reason he left Apple.


I just looked up the CORE CL9 and I can see why it never really caught on. It was definitely designed by engineers, where it had tons of great features but it was inscrutable to anyone that didn't know all the ins and outs because the UI was really unfriendly. You basically had to write down all the commands in a little book and the turn to the book and look up what the command does by page number if you didn't have it memorized (and the remote supported 255 pages of commands). It seems like it could have been more popular if they had scaled back the number of features and worked on making the UI a litter easier to use without a book handy.
 
2014-03-22 07:16:42 PM  

styckx: I can change my Comcast channels via the internet in any room.  I hard ever use the remote anymore..  The X1 app is only really nice.. I can just saying "Watch Comcast Sports Net" and boom. Channel changed.


I just timed it.  I took me 1.4 seconds to pick up and press 1671 on my remote.

I didn't have to unlock my phone and open an app either
 
2014-03-22 08:00:30 PM  

Stone Meadow: BlackMtnMan: I haven't watched TV in 13 years.  Problem solved.

Trolling or not, there is plenty of truth to this. Over-the-air TV and classic cable seem headed to the same slow, agonizing death that land lines are going through. For example, my wife and I gave up our DirecTV subscription several years ago in favor of Amazon Prime, Netflix and a Roku, and have never looked back. And we're old. I can just imaging that younger folks are well ahead of us on the technology curve. Once live sports are online we can stick a fork in TV. Your laptop, phablet or iPad will deliver all you need.



I think you misundertake me. I've watched NO TV, on TV, computer,  nada. Well, now and then, some stupid You Tub clips.
 
2014-03-22 09:34:37 PM  
Dear Asshat Author,

When we had 4 channels, we had to get up and change them by hand. No doubt you didn't exist. Stop giving companies the erroneous and annoyingly poorly thought out idea to get lazy and tell us all "NOPE, NOT GIVING YOU A REMOTE, GET A PHONE" or relying on shiatty voice recognition software that turns the damned thing off everytime you want to watch channel four or randomly cranks the volume to 100 when you yawn.

Shut up now.
 
2014-03-23 02:18:00 PM  
Logitech fan, for many years.

When you have a 7.1 amp, a 60" TV, a DVD player, a Mac mini, a Wii, and want to do a bunch of different configurations - you're going to end up with a bunch of different remotes on your table.

Unless you get a Logitech and program it.
Done.
 
2014-03-23 02:21:08 PM  
But, of course, this is the problem that the AppleTV is likely trying to address.
 
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