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2014-03-22 09:35:10 AM  
A smartphone is great, until they battery dies, as a lot of people's phone do daily.  Just simplify the existing controller that lasts for week or months on one battery.
 
2014-03-22 10:15:17 AM  
MIND CONTROL
 
2014-03-22 11:01:00 AM  
I like how the author bemoans that when it comes to current remotes "users the world over are forced to navigate alphanumeric keyboards or endless channel lists with single directional button presses", then just two paragraphs later states, "Media streaming devices like Roku, Apple TV...have also effectively begun redesigning the remote control, jettisoning the legion of buttons in favour of simple, slimmed-down schemas of interaction that actually adhere to a general standard of form and function" which force users to navigate alphanumeric keyboards or endless channel lists with single directional button presses.

/Harmony One (for 99% of my remote needs) + iPhone apps for the TiVo and ApppleTV (for the 1% of the time I want a keyboard) = happy Gecko
 
2014-03-22 12:13:20 PM  
This twit needs a mute button
 
2014-03-22 12:20:17 PM  
My HTC One has an IR blaster and an app that gets the DirecTV channel guide and also controls my televisions in the living room and bedroom, and it works great. I watch NetFlix on my PS3 or Wii U, and the PS3 automatically changes the TV to its input when I turn it on.
I still prefer to use my real remotes, which I try to keep handy, but if I can't find it within like six seconds I use my phone.
 
2014-03-22 12:40:16 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: I like how the author bemoans that when it comes to current remotes "users the world over are forced to navigate alphanumeric keyboards or endless channel lists with single directional button presses", then just two paragraphs later states, "Media streaming devices like Roku, Apple TV...have also effectively begun redesigning the remote control, jettisoning the legion of buttons in favour of simple, slimmed-down schemas of interaction that actually adhere to a general standard of form and function" which force users to navigate alphanumeric keyboards or endless channel lists with single directional button presses.

/Harmony One (for 99% of my remote needs) + iPhone apps for the TiVo and ApppleTV (for the 1% of the time I want a keyboard) = happy Gecko


Gecko, I've been thinking to get a Harmony One, even though I have to get a PS3 extension for it.  I assume you would recommend?
 
2014-03-22 12:56:10 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Gecko, I've been thinking to get a Harmony One, even though I have to get a PS3 extension for it. I assume you would recommend?


Now, keep in mind I have the "old" Harmony One (as opposed to the new Ultimate One), and at the time that I got it it was the only one they offered with the customizable touch screen, but having laid out those disclaimers, yes I would recommend it. Before that, I had a 550, and I would even recommend that one.
 
2014-03-22 01:17:42 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Gecko, I've been thinking to get a Harmony One, even though I have to get a PS3 extension for it.  I assume you would recommend?


I thought that not having a remote would be annoying, but after getting a chromecast, I love the idea of every device in the house being a remote. Macbook. Pc. Note 3. Iphone 4s, 2 nexii 7's all control the tv too.

The note 3 has an IR blaster and an awesome channel guide...although football is the only thing I watch live.
 
2014-03-22 01:18:48 PM  
FTA : "If it's just a TV we're talking about, devices used to supplement the experience are not yet powerful enough to handle linking to a second screen and performing the actions required in real-time."

Has this person not heard of DLNA?
 
2014-03-22 01:23:31 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Gecko, I've been thinking to get a Harmony One, even though I have to get a PS3 extension for it. I assume you would recommend?


I'll second Gecko's endorsement. I had a 520 for years, and then a few months ago got a Harmony One. I have yet to have any trouble with either one of them. You simply plug them in to your computer with a USB cable, and run a wizard to program them. The hardest part is moving your electronics around to get all of the model numbers!
 
2014-03-22 01:28:38 PM  
I don't have anything like a Roku, AppleTV, Tivo, etc. Only two things connected to my television are the coaxial cable coming in from my outside over-the-air antenna and the Blu-ray player. Plain ol' remote control still works fine for my set-up.
 
2014-03-22 01:31:38 PM  

Pokey.Clyde: Benevolent Misanthrope: Gecko, I've been thinking to get a Harmony One, even though I have to get a PS3 extension for it. I assume you would recommend?

I'll second Gecko's endorsement. I had a 520 for years, and then a few months ago got a Harmony One. I have yet to have any trouble with either one of them. You simply plug them in to your computer with a USB cable, and run a wizard to program them. The hardest part is moving your electronics around to get all of the model numbers!


Their support is great, too. I bought a Lutron fan/light control from my living room specifically because it included IR control. Harmony had the model listed in its records, but didn't quite control the lights the way I wanted to (basically, it was set up to register button pushes as a single "click" regardless of how long one held the button, and I need it to keep registering as long as I held the button down). I emailed Harmony, they asked me a few questions, and then had me "update" the remote though the online interface. Viola! The remote worked the way I wanted it to.
 
2014-03-22 01:34:48 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Their support is great, too. I bought a Lutron fan/light control from my living room specifically because it included IR control. Harmony had the model listed in its records, but didn't quite control the lights the way I wanted to (basically, it was set up to register button pushes as a single "click" regardless of how long one held the button, and I need it to keep registering as long as I held the button down). I emailed Harmony, they asked me a few questions, and then had me "update" the remote though the online interface. Viola! The remote worked the way I wanted it to.


Yep, they are pretty good. When I first got my Roku, I searched through every category that made sense trying to find it to no avail. I emailed tech support, and within 30 minutes had a reply telling me where they were hiding it. Presto, worked first try.
 
2014-03-22 01:48:09 PM  
After a few months of.chromecast, I've grown to.really hate the tv remote.
 
2014-03-22 01:49:38 PM  
The Remote Control The?
 
2014-03-22 01:51:32 PM  
So basically not this?
 
2014-03-22 01:52:29 PM  
From my cold dead hands!
 
2014-03-22 01:53:12 PM  
Though the Harmony One looks good and has good reviews, I'm sure as hell not ready to drop $400 on a remote no matter how good it is. Maybe at $200 that remote would be a good purchase but that's still pricey.
 
2014-03-22 01:55:09 PM  
I'm so sick of Interactive TV. When I want to watch TV or movie that means I want to do as little as possible and be entertained. A remote allows me to do this. Waving my hands around and talking to my TV is making me do the work for my TV. My TV serves me, not the other way around.
 
2014-03-22 01:55:45 PM  
imageshack.us

Why hate Ken Ober so much, Subby?

Seriously though, the mark of current civilization is when you walk into someone's home, and they either have one remote, or the giant pile of the bajillion different ones. :D
 
2014-03-22 01:57:37 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: From my cold dead hands!


Came here to say this^.
Or something like it.
 
2014-03-22 01:58:29 PM  

gwenners: The Remote Control The?


i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-22 02:00:37 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Gecko Gingrich: I like how the author bemoans that when it comes to current remotes "users the world over are forced to navigate alphanumeric keyboards or endless channel lists with single directional button presses", then just two paragraphs later states, "Media streaming devices like Roku, Apple TV...have also effectively begun redesigning the remote control, jettisoning the legion of buttons in favour of simple, slimmed-down schemas of interaction that actually adhere to a general standard of form and function" which force users to navigate alphanumeric keyboards or endless channel lists with single directional button presses.

/Harmony One (for 99% of my remote needs) + iPhone apps for the TiVo and ApppleTV (for the 1% of the time I want a keyboard) = happy Gecko

Gecko, I've been thinking to get a Harmony One, even though I have to get a PS3 extension for it.  I assume you would recommend?


The new version called the Ultimate One includes a Harmony hub for sending BT commands to the PS3, plus the hub also interacts with their smartphone app.

I'm thinking of upgrading at some point, but I'm personally still really happy with my original model One. It's a great remote that was easy to set up. I got a great deal on it, too. I picked it up as a display model at a Magnolia store that was closing in my area for $75, but then when I got it home the touch screen was broken and was all white, but I called Logitech and even after letting them know it was a floor model, they replaced it with a brand new remote still sealed in the box. A few years later, I had the battery go bad and start bulging, and even out of warranty they sent me a new battery since it was a recall item. Logitech really takes care of you.
 
2014-03-22 02:00:52 PM  
I work with high tech all day long, the last thing I want when I get home is more of it. All I really need is a one-button remote labeled "turn my brain to mush." Does anyone, you know, just watch TV any more?

/ I reluctantly suggest that you consider thinking about eventually getting around to leaving my grassy yard, when you're ready
 
2014-03-22 02:02:25 PM  
You can have my remote, when you pry it from my cold dead fingers. That goes for my wife too.
 
2014-03-22 02:03:24 PM  
meh, tv watchers problems.
 
2014-03-22 02:03:51 PM  

gwenners: The Remote Control The?


Yes, THE Remote Control.

This does not refer to the little device people lose under couch cushions or use as a marital aid.  This refers to a little known but ultimately dangerous entity that has the potential to alter reality.  It started small way back when with only the ability to temporarily stop energy from coursing through neural pathways of lesser intelligent creatures within a short distance.  Over time, its powers increased until now it can affect time and space at a cosmic level.  Thus the need to take it out of commission.  Imagine if it simply snapped - *poof* goes the universe.

Now killing it is not that difficult.  it is very susceptible to whatever and boy band music.  The problem is finding it.  The last person who knew where it was went to answer the telephone only to hear Yoko Ono and Kim Kardashian in a lesbian love session (his head imploded to save his soul).
 
2014-03-22 02:04:18 PM  
So, we can have your wife when we pry her from your cold dead fingers?
 
2014-03-22 02:04:47 PM  

MasterAdkins: A smartphone is great, until they battery dies, as a lot of people's phone do daily.  Just simplify the existing controller that lasts for week or months on one battery.


This.  How hard does it have to be?

You need something to turn it on and off, turn the volume up or down, and change channels and/or inputs.  That is it.
 
2014-03-22 02:05:28 PM  
Millions of couples would have nothing to fight over.
 
2014-03-22 02:05:44 PM  
Speak for yourself....

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Rarely watch the cable box, mostly media played from my 20TB media server. This remote works fantastic.
 
2014-03-22 02:07:11 PM  
I use my android tablet with the xbmc remote app to control my htpc that everything on the tv runs through.
 
2014-03-22 02:09:02 PM  
First World Problem
 
2014-03-22 02:09:15 PM  
I never considered using my remote as a chore.
 
2014-03-22 02:09:38 PM  
That was an awful wordy way to say, "Wouldn't it be cool if you could control your T.V. with an android app?"

(The answer is, of course, "Yes.")
 
2014-03-22 02:16:25 PM  
The only downside of the Harmony One is that even it can't really deal with an Xbox One hooked up pass through with a TiVo, unless you create a separate activities for when watching TV and not, because the two device can't share the D-pad and media buttons. I actually wound up buying a Xbox One media remote for watching Netflix because I got tired of the voice commands, the motion control is just hard to use, and the controller turns itself off halfway through an episode.

As an aside, is anyone else annoyed by how much worse the Kinect motion controls are on the Xbox One. The 360 Kinect would only activate if you made a waving motion, while the Xbox One will activate if you move you hands around while talking in front of the TV or you are taking a long swig of a drink. Also, the select gesture is so much harder to pull off, because you now have to push in on the on-screen item, which half the time causes the cursor to slide off the item you were on and on to the item below it or next to it if you don't do the gesture precisely right. On the 360, you just had to hold you hand over an item a few seconds to select. It was slower, but AI found it to be more accurate, which made it easier to use. For all the hardware and software updates they did, somehow I feel like motion controls on the new Kinect are HARDER to use than before.
 
2014-03-22 02:16:39 PM  

Pokey.Clyde: Benevolent Misanthrope: Gecko, I've been thinking to get a Harmony One, even though I have to get a PS3 extension for it. I assume you would recommend?

I'll second Gecko's endorsement. I had a 520 for years, and then a few months ago got a Harmony One. I have yet to have any trouble with either one of them. You simply plug them in to your computer with a USB cable, and run a wizard to program them. The hardest part is moving your electronics around to get all of the model numbers!


I have a 620 and love it.

My laptop died and I got a new one. Does anyone know whether it will read the way the remote is programmed or will I need to start from scratch?
 
2014-03-22 02:17:30 PM  
I thought it had been dead since 1990?

i1126.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-22 02:19:03 PM  
What a "remote control" looked like back in my day...
images.huffingtonpost.com
 
2014-03-22 02:21:03 PM  

albert71292: I don't have anything like a Roku, AppleTV, Tivo, etc. Only two things connected to my television are the coaxial cable coming in from my outside over-the-air antenna and the Blu-ray player. Plain ol' remote control still works fine for my set-up.


vogeltalksrving.com
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i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-22 02:22:46 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Logitech really takes care of you.


At the risk of sounding like a Logitech fanboy, they really do. I have a second original One they I got at half off because when I called to ask if I could purchase a new number pad for the 550 (all the silk-screened numbers had worn off), they told me that they couldn't send me that part, but they could offer me a 50% coupon for new remote.
 
2014-03-22 02:24:15 PM  
Buttons I need on a TV remote:

- Power On/Off (This should turn all the devices necessary off and on)
- Guide
- On-Demand
- Numbers
- Fast Forward
- Rewind
- Pause
- Stop
- Exit
- Menu
- Page Up
- Page Down
- Volume Up/Down
- Arrow Keys for Menu (Up/Down/Left/Right)
- Info
- Record
- Last
- Mute/Unmute

I need them all on the same plane and need for them to be tactile so that I can operate it without the need for light or when I am drunk. The Comcast remotes are pretty good for the buttons they have and they don't have a lot of extraneous ones. Fark using a smart device as a controller.

If TV needs to be "saved" it is going to come by the way of everything streaming at any time without expensive packages or plans. I would be happy if they just dumped an entire season to be streamed immediately as well. Watch it at your own pace. Who really watches "live" TV anymore? I only do so when I don't have a lot of time and there are no good shows to be streamed real fast. That is basically just so I don't have to eat my food without noise and if I am eating with someone, so we can eat without having to converse to decompress from the day and zone out.
 
2014-03-22 02:24:34 PM  
Jesus. I am out if touch with this thread. I don't own a television and haven't for years. I watch everything online.

Great savings, too, not paying for cable.
 
2014-03-22 02:25:39 PM  
Hey, is there any way I could control my TV by, like, using wild arm gestures and yelling at it? That would be neat.
 
2014-03-22 02:26:52 PM  

Cork on Fork: My laptop died and I got a new one. Does anyone know whether it will read the way the remote is programmed or will I need to start from scratch?


The commands are saved on Logitech's servers, not locally. Install the Harmony app on the new laptop, log into your account and it'll be like you never left.
 
2014-03-22 02:34:44 PM  
For the old folks that grew up with the clunk-clunk-clunk of the 2-13 channel changer knob.

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One man's solution to make his remote control "old-people friendly"
 
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2014-03-22 02:36:41 PM  

LesserEvil: Speak for yourself....

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Rarely watch the cable box, mostly media played from my 20TB media server. This remote works fantastic.


I have that exact model.  Works great with my TiVo and my Xbox360.
 
2014-03-22 02:37:35 PM  
I haven't watched TV in 13 years.  Problem solved.
 
2014-03-22 02:37:54 PM  
Hate to say I agree, but I agree.  I remember it being regular schtick to make fun of how complex remotes were back in the 80s, and they've only gotten more, er, featureful since then.  Look at remotes that are in an electronics store (I know, I know, but they do still exist) and you'll notice that they're all different.  Why?

I have three remotes sitting on my couch at the moment.  The TV remote has 40 buttons.  The power button is on the right.  The BD player has 43 buttons (count 'em!)  The power button is on the left.  It's the box that plays movies when our crappy Internet service craps out and we can't stare at Netflix.  Why does a movie player need 43 buttons???!?   My head unit's remote has 57 buttons.  There are two power buttons for some reason, one labeled "source".  The manual is in Engrish, but I'm assuming that there's some sort of universal remote functionality.  They have a Godawful app that I tend to use instead;

My parents have a TV in my old bedroom that dates to 1990 and stereo equipment they got in 1992.  Aside from aesthetics, those remotes really aren't any different than my current remotes.

Yeah, I know about the Logitech Harmony, and I know about phones with IR Blasters.  The solution to bad remotes is to buy a universal remote?  Yeah...no.
 
2014-03-22 02:39:53 PM  

Gunboat: Jesus. I am out if touch with this thread. I don't own a television and haven't for years. I watch everything online.

Great savings, too, not paying for cable


What kind of internet provider are you using?There really isn't much of a difference in price for not having cable tv in addition to internet in my experience. Also, many shows require you have a TV provider to watch them online, unless of course you boot-leg or torrent shiat. TVs are so cheap now, I am surprised you don't have one. For the sheer fact that you can watch a Blu Ray or equal movie on a 48"W + screen it is worth it.
 
2014-03-22 02:46:26 PM  
The remote control, The?
 
2014-03-22 02:46:31 PM  
I've wanted a remote that acts like a Wiimote since I first got my Wii, with more on-screen UI options. They would make navigating DVD/BD menus and TV Guide menus way more easier with a point-click interface, instead of using a terrible circular d-pad and enter button on the remote to interact with screen objects.

/don't know if they've done that yet
 
2014-03-22 02:47:30 PM  

theMightyRegeya: The solution to bad remotes is to buy a universal remote? Yeah...no.


No, really, it is. It really does fix those problems.
 
2014-03-22 02:48:36 PM  

gwenners: The Remote Control The?


Guess I should have read the thread before posting....
 
2014-03-22 02:53:17 PM  
img1.wikia.nocookie.net

DOES NOT APPROVE


/Another satisfied Harmony user.
//Great for visiting family.  "How do I turn on the TV?" "Press the 'Watch TV' button"
 
2014-03-22 02:55:46 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: For the old folks that grew up with the clunk-clunk-clunk of the 2-13 channel changer knob.

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One man's solution to make his remote control "old-people friendly"


My in-laws came to visit (Unannounced! For the weekend!) last year. We managed to rearrange most of our schedule, but had one thing we had to attend to. I gave them a quick primer in "How to use the remote" before we left for a few hours. Basically, it was, "Push the button labeled 'Watch TV' while pointing the remote toward the TV cabinet. It's set up to make sure the things that need to be on will turn on and everything is set to the correct input. Then all you need is volume up and down, channel up and down, guide and the number pad."

We came home a few hours later to all the find all the TV cabinet's doors open, and the TV (not the A/V receiver) on nearly full blast playing one of the music service channels. "We couldn't figure out that damn remote."

/That same trip my father-in-law managed to flood the upstairs bathroom, and wreck the ceiling in the kitchen, because he "didn't realize" you have to put the shower curtain *inside* the tub when taking a shower.
 
2014-03-22 02:57:05 PM  

whereisian: theMightyRegeya: The solution to bad remotes is to buy a universal remote? Yeah...no.

No, really, it is. It really does fix those problems.


^this^
 
2014-03-22 03:00:24 PM  

BlackMtnMan: I haven't watched TV in 13 years.  Problem solved.


Trolling or not, there is plenty of truth to this. Over-the-air TV and classic cable seem headed to the same slow, agonizing death that land lines are going through. For example, my wife and I gave up our DirecTV subscription several years ago in favor of Amazon Prime, Netflix and a Roku, and have never looked back. And we're old. I can just imaging that younger folks are well ahead of us on the technology curve. Once live sports are online we can stick a fork in TV. Your laptop, phablet or iPad will deliver all you need.
 
2014-03-22 03:01:32 PM  
Come to think of it, I have several Harmony remotes in a box - 676, 770, maybe a 670... none of them worked with Windows 7, IIRC.  Couldn't set them up at all.
 
2014-03-22 03:01:48 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: f TV needs to be "saved" it is going to come by the way of everything streaming at any time without expensive packages or plans.


TBH, I think this needs to stay as a separate box.  A lot of people buy TVs the way I do: has the the old one stops working?  If so, buy a new TV; if not, tough it out.  My current TV is 7 years old and still kicking, and counting the 19" my wife had in school, is only the 4th we've ever bought.  We wouldn't have even been up to #4 if it hadn't been for freak thunderstorms taking out two of them.

And things can change fast.  One of the selling points of my stereo head unit is that it was Internet capable, and had Spotify support along with several other services I've never heard of (and unless I'm wrong, no longer exist.)  Nowadays, given how Spotify has (imho) gone far downhill--honestly, it's great how I lose the ability to play on this device for days on end, and it's stunning how my phone's app will up and decide in the middle of a road trip that I don't have any offline music downloaded--I'd love to cancel that and go with either Google Music All Access or, hell, even the iTunes streaming service, but the unit doesn't support either of those.  It has the capability to be updated, but I think the manufacturer stopped providing updates after a year.
 
2014-03-22 03:06:39 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: Gunboat: Jesus. I am out if touch with this thread. I don't own a television and haven't for years. I watch everything online.

Great savings, too, not paying for cable

What kind of internet provider are you using?There really isn't much of a difference in price for not having cable tv in addition to internet in my experience. Also, many shows require you have a TV provider to watch them online, unless of course you boot-leg or torrent shiat. TVs are so cheap now, I am surprised you don't have one. For the sheer fact that you can watch a Blu Ray or equal movie on a 48"W + screen it is worth it.


maybe in a civilized place. $75 for 50mbps. another 40-100 to add TV from Comcast here. And yay, duopoly, with the other internet provider only offering 6mbps.
 
2014-03-22 03:07:15 PM  

Pokey.Clyde: Benevolent Misanthrope: Gecko, I've been thinking to get a Harmony One, even though I have to get a PS3 extension for it. I assume you would recommend?

I'll second Gecko's endorsement. I had a 520 for years, and then a few months ago got a Harmony One. I have yet to have any trouble with either one of them. You simply plug them in to your computer with a USB cable, and run a wizard to program them. The hardest part is moving your electronics around to get all of the model numbers!


I would love to simplify but I've got four different TVs in different parts of the house and three different DVD players. All are hooked up to Uverse (which costs a damned fortune) because I am overwhelmed at the prospect of paying for/setting up any sort of Netflix or Apple TV or Roku or whatever in all the rooms. Also I very much enjoy the fact that I can watch part of something upstairs while working out and finish it later in my room at bedtime and I don't know how seamless that would be on a non integrated system. I really would like to change but every time I start researching options I get information overload and just quit.

///First World Problems
 
2014-03-22 03:10:03 PM  

Stone Meadow: What a "remote control" looked like back in my day...
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DON'T FLIP THE DAMN CHANNELS SO FAST OR YOU'LL BREAK THE KNOB!!!!
 
2014-03-22 03:11:15 PM  
Last time I mentioned that my tablet had IR that I used to control my television (as well as TVs at Doctors offices and stores) on Fark some angry dude accused me of having tech that didn't exist.
Did he write this article?

/It's running out of it's 2 yr warranty shortly.  :(
 
2014-03-22 03:14:56 PM  
people who watch TV want things dumbed down for them

THIS IS A STARTLING DEVELOPMENT
 
2014-03-22 03:18:51 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Come to think of it, I have several Harmony remotes in a box - 676, 770, maybe a 670... none of them worked with Windows 7, IIRC.  Couldn't set them up at all.


For the 6xx remotes (the 670 and the 676 are the same):

32-bit
64-bit

Click the appropriate link above. Click the "Downloads" tab. Follow instructions.


I can't find a 770, but assuming all the 7xx remotes are the same:

click here


/I use a Win7 Pro 64-bit machine with no problems to program my Ones and my 550.
 
2014-03-22 03:19:28 PM  

rwhamann: the money is in the banana stand: Gunboat: Jesus. I am out if touch with this thread. I don't own a television and haven't for years. I watch everything online.

Great savings, too, not paying for cable

What kind of internet provider are you using?There really isn't much of a difference in price for not having cable tv in addition to internet in my experience. Also, many shows require you have a TV provider to watch them online, unless of course you boot-leg or torrent shiat. TVs are so cheap now, I am surprised you don't have one. For the sheer fact that you can watch a Blu Ray or equal movie on a 48"W + screen it is worth it.

maybe in a civilized place. $75 for 50mbps. another 40-100 to add TV from Comcast here. And yay, duopoly, with the other internet provider only offering 6mbps.


Ouch. I pay $80/mo for Hi-Speed internet + Cable TV with HBO (have AMC, SyFy etc.). I have a TiVo with a Lifetime sub I bought a long time ago with an HD-Card in it and at the time I had a sub for all of the premium channels. I still get those channels and I don't have to pay the retarded price. Mostly, I stream Netflix movies though or watch shows via OnDemand.
 
2014-03-22 03:22:07 PM  
Heck, even my wifes car has a keyless remote, and when the battery went out on one, it was much easier to have the parts guy at the dealer replace it. The only removeable "key" on the side is just for getting in the car, not starting it.
BTW, when did they stop putting VINs on the drives side? Gosh, I'm old.
 
2014-03-22 03:24:20 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: Mostly, I stream Netflix movies though or watch shows via OnDemand.


I really wish Verizon (and Comcast before them) realized how much money they lost in not allowing me to use their OnDemand services through my TiVo. Oh well, their loss is Netflix's and Amazon's gain.


/Stupid CableLabs
 
2014-03-22 03:27:48 PM  

Combustion: Stone Meadow: What a "remote control" looked like back in my day...
[images.huffingtonpost.com image 850x607]

DON'T FLIP THE DAMN CHANNELS SO FAST OR YOU'LL BREAK THE KNOB!!!!


And don't forget your stupid sister walking past the TV in the living room and giving the knob that fine tuned the channel a twirl right at the critical moment during the football game. Yeah, she wanted to watch some dumb girlie program at the same time as my four brothers and I wanted to watch the ball game, but it was a pure Democracy, ya know...5 votes to 1!
 
2014-03-22 03:32:36 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: Gunboat: Jesus. I am out if touch with this thread. I don't own a television and haven't for years. I watch everything online.

Great savings, too, not paying for cable

What kind of internet provider are you using?There really isn't much of a difference in price for not having cable tv in addition to internet in my experience. Also, many shows require you have a TV provider to watch them online, unless of course you boot-leg or torrent shiat. TVs are so cheap now, I am surprised you don't have one. For the sheer fact that you can watch a Blu Ray or equal movie on a 48"W + screen it is worth it.


Adding cable to my internet would be at least $50/month. Charter Comms.

Laptop plays DVDs.

I use Netflix ($8/month), comedycentral.com (free), other major channel sites (free - cbs abc nbc pbs)
 
2014-03-22 03:33:36 PM  
I can change my Comcast channels via the internet in any room.  I hard ever use the remote anymore..  The X1 app is only really nice.. I can just saying "Watch Comcast Sports Net" and boom. Channel changed.
 
2014-03-22 03:33:42 PM  
I for one prefer not having to sit maddeningly still just to stay on the same channel.
 
2014-03-22 03:37:59 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Benevolent Misanthrope: Come to think of it, I have several Harmony remotes in a box - 676, 770, maybe a 670... none of them worked with Windows 7, IIRC.  Couldn't set them up at all.

For the 6xx remotes (the 670 and the 676 are the same):

32-bit
64-bit

Click the appropriate link above. Click the "Downloads" tab. Follow instructions.


I can't find a 770, but assuming all the 7xx remotes are the same:

click here


/I use a Win7 Pro 64-bit machine with no problems to program my Ones and my 550.


I now have a Win 8 machine [whimper], but I'll try it.  Thanks!
 
2014-03-22 03:47:55 PM  
I'll join the chorus of love for the Harmony One. Once you add a receiver and cable box to the TV, it's really the only way to go. It even works great with my HTPC setup. Although I also have the Yatse app for browsing my XBMC library quicker.

Now that it looks like XBMC and Yatse will push content to a Chromecast, I'm debating picking one up. Does anyone have any experience using it in that capacity?  Does it work as well as it should?
 
2014-03-22 03:54:02 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: From my cold dead hands!


THIS!
 
2014-03-22 04:04:38 PM  
The remote control is not dead yet-although I wish it were so

You sick, murderous bastard.
 
2014-03-22 04:27:15 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: I now have a Win 8 machine [whimper], but I'll try it. Thanks!


You're welcome. On either of the 6xx links, you can pick "Windows 8" from the drop-down on the "Downloads". For the 7xx link, I think it's entire browser based.
 
2014-03-22 04:35:30 PM  
XBMC and Plex(I believe) can both use the android app to control the device you are using their software on.

Really though, I hated it. Finding my phone at 2 am, launching an app the controlling the app sucked. Not mention not having the ability to tactile navigate at 2am.... yeah, forget about it. I'll take 5 remotes for 6 devices any day.

Harmony remite sounds good though.
 
2014-03-22 04:46:42 PM  

Ex-Texan: Heck, even my wifes car has a keyless remote, and when the battery went out on one, it was much easier to have the parts guy at the dealer replace it. The only removeable "key" on the side is just for getting in the car, not starting it.
BTW, when did they stop putting VINs on the drives side? Gosh, I'm old.


You can hold the key (with a dead battery) up against the push-button start as you push it, and it will fire right up.

The battery is really easy to swap.  Probably a CR2032.  Just did mine a month ago.
 
2014-03-22 05:00:27 PM  
My TVs are just big monitors for Mac minis.

My remote control is a laptop with Apple Remote Desktop.

Problem solved.
 
2014-03-22 05:06:36 PM  
This is all you need...

imageshack.com

or at least one of these for your entertainment room...

imageshack.com
 
2014-03-22 05:16:23 PM  

LabGrrl: Last time I mentioned that my tablet had IR that I used to control my television (as well as TVs at Doctors offices and stores) on Fark some angry dude accused me of having tech that didn't exist.
Did he write this article?

/It's running out of it's 2 yr warranty shortly.  :(


my newtown messagepad had IR and could be used as a universal remote, even a kinda cool one, way back in 96. :)
 
2014-03-22 06:01:59 PM  

fredmcmurray: LabGrrl: Last time I mentioned that my tablet had IR that I used to control my television (as well as TVs at Doctors offices and stores) on Fark some angry dude accused me of having tech that didn't exist.
Did he write this article?

/It's running out of it's 2 yr warranty shortly.  :(

my newtown messagepad had IR and could be used as a universal remote, even a kinda cool one, way back in 96. :)


Interesting bit 'o history, the first programmable universal remote was the CL 9...designed by one Steve Wosniak. In fact, it was the reason he left Apple.
 
2014-03-22 06:21:07 PM  

tennesseemike: I never considered using my remote as a chore.


"Okay, Timmy, do your homework, then take out the trash and use the remote before supper!"
 
2014-03-22 06:40:33 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: fredmcmurray: LabGrrl: Last time I mentioned that my tablet had IR that I used to control my television (as well as TVs at Doctors offices and stores) on Fark some angry dude accused me of having tech that didn't exist.
Did he write this article?

/It's running out of it's 2 yr warranty shortly.  :(

my newtown messagepad had IR and could be used as a universal remote, even a kinda cool one, way back in 96. :)

Interesting bit 'o history, the first programmable universal remote was the CL 9...designed by one Steve Wosniak. In fact, it was the reason he left Apple.


I just looked up the CORE CL9 and I can see why it never really caught on. It was definitely designed by engineers, where it had tons of great features but it was inscrutable to anyone that didn't know all the ins and outs because the UI was really unfriendly. You basically had to write down all the commands in a little book and the turn to the book and look up what the command does by page number if you didn't have it memorized (and the remote supported 255 pages of commands). It seems like it could have been more popular if they had scaled back the number of features and worked on making the UI a litter easier to use without a book handy.
 
2014-03-22 07:16:42 PM  

styckx: I can change my Comcast channels via the internet in any room.  I hard ever use the remote anymore..  The X1 app is only really nice.. I can just saying "Watch Comcast Sports Net" and boom. Channel changed.


I just timed it.  I took me 1.4 seconds to pick up and press 1671 on my remote.

I didn't have to unlock my phone and open an app either
 
2014-03-22 08:00:30 PM  

Stone Meadow: BlackMtnMan: I haven't watched TV in 13 years.  Problem solved.

Trolling or not, there is plenty of truth to this. Over-the-air TV and classic cable seem headed to the same slow, agonizing death that land lines are going through. For example, my wife and I gave up our DirecTV subscription several years ago in favor of Amazon Prime, Netflix and a Roku, and have never looked back. And we're old. I can just imaging that younger folks are well ahead of us on the technology curve. Once live sports are online we can stick a fork in TV. Your laptop, phablet or iPad will deliver all you need.



I think you misundertake me. I've watched NO TV, on TV, computer,  nada. Well, now and then, some stupid You Tub clips.
 
2014-03-22 09:34:37 PM  
Dear Asshat Author,

When we had 4 channels, we had to get up and change them by hand. No doubt you didn't exist. Stop giving companies the erroneous and annoyingly poorly thought out idea to get lazy and tell us all "NOPE, NOT GIVING YOU A REMOTE, GET A PHONE" or relying on shiatty voice recognition software that turns the damned thing off everytime you want to watch channel four or randomly cranks the volume to 100 when you yawn.

Shut up now.
 
2014-03-23 02:18:00 PM  
Logitech fan, for many years.

When you have a 7.1 amp, a 60" TV, a DVD player, a Mac mini, a Wii, and want to do a bunch of different configurations - you're going to end up with a bunch of different remotes on your table.

Unless you get a Logitech and program it.
Done.
 
2014-03-23 02:21:08 PM  
But, of course, this is the problem that the AppleTV is likely trying to address.
 
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