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2014-03-22 09:35:10 AM  
A smartphone is great, until they battery dies, as a lot of people's phone do daily.  Just simplify the existing controller that lasts for week or months on one battery.
 
2014-03-22 10:15:17 AM  
MIND CONTROL
 
2014-03-22 11:01:00 AM  
I like how the author bemoans that when it comes to current remotes "users the world over are forced to navigate alphanumeric keyboards or endless channel lists with single directional button presses", then just two paragraphs later states, "Media streaming devices like Roku, Apple TV...have also effectively begun redesigning the remote control, jettisoning the legion of buttons in favour of simple, slimmed-down schemas of interaction that actually adhere to a general standard of form and function" which force users to navigate alphanumeric keyboards or endless channel lists with single directional button presses.

/Harmony One (for 99% of my remote needs) + iPhone apps for the TiVo and ApppleTV (for the 1% of the time I want a keyboard) = happy Gecko
 
2014-03-22 12:13:20 PM  
This twit needs a mute button
 
2014-03-22 12:20:17 PM  
My HTC One has an IR blaster and an app that gets the DirecTV channel guide and also controls my televisions in the living room and bedroom, and it works great. I watch NetFlix on my PS3 or Wii U, and the PS3 automatically changes the TV to its input when I turn it on.
I still prefer to use my real remotes, which I try to keep handy, but if I can't find it within like six seconds I use my phone.
 
2014-03-22 12:40:16 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: I like how the author bemoans that when it comes to current remotes "users the world over are forced to navigate alphanumeric keyboards or endless channel lists with single directional button presses", then just two paragraphs later states, "Media streaming devices like Roku, Apple TV...have also effectively begun redesigning the remote control, jettisoning the legion of buttons in favour of simple, slimmed-down schemas of interaction that actually adhere to a general standard of form and function" which force users to navigate alphanumeric keyboards or endless channel lists with single directional button presses.

/Harmony One (for 99% of my remote needs) + iPhone apps for the TiVo and ApppleTV (for the 1% of the time I want a keyboard) = happy Gecko


Gecko, I've been thinking to get a Harmony One, even though I have to get a PS3 extension for it.  I assume you would recommend?
 
2014-03-22 12:56:10 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Gecko, I've been thinking to get a Harmony One, even though I have to get a PS3 extension for it. I assume you would recommend?


Now, keep in mind I have the "old" Harmony One (as opposed to the new Ultimate One), and at the time that I got it it was the only one they offered with the customizable touch screen, but having laid out those disclaimers, yes I would recommend it. Before that, I had a 550, and I would even recommend that one.
 
2014-03-22 01:17:42 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Gecko, I've been thinking to get a Harmony One, even though I have to get a PS3 extension for it.  I assume you would recommend?


I thought that not having a remote would be annoying, but after getting a chromecast, I love the idea of every device in the house being a remote. Macbook. Pc. Note 3. Iphone 4s, 2 nexii 7's all control the tv too.

The note 3 has an IR blaster and an awesome channel guide...although football is the only thing I watch live.
 
2014-03-22 01:18:48 PM  
FTA : "If it's just a TV we're talking about, devices used to supplement the experience are not yet powerful enough to handle linking to a second screen and performing the actions required in real-time."

Has this person not heard of DLNA?
 
2014-03-22 01:23:31 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Gecko, I've been thinking to get a Harmony One, even though I have to get a PS3 extension for it. I assume you would recommend?


I'll second Gecko's endorsement. I had a 520 for years, and then a few months ago got a Harmony One. I have yet to have any trouble with either one of them. You simply plug them in to your computer with a USB cable, and run a wizard to program them. The hardest part is moving your electronics around to get all of the model numbers!
 
2014-03-22 01:28:38 PM  
I don't have anything like a Roku, AppleTV, Tivo, etc. Only two things connected to my television are the coaxial cable coming in from my outside over-the-air antenna and the Blu-ray player. Plain ol' remote control still works fine for my set-up.
 
2014-03-22 01:31:38 PM  

Pokey.Clyde: Benevolent Misanthrope: Gecko, I've been thinking to get a Harmony One, even though I have to get a PS3 extension for it. I assume you would recommend?

I'll second Gecko's endorsement. I had a 520 for years, and then a few months ago got a Harmony One. I have yet to have any trouble with either one of them. You simply plug them in to your computer with a USB cable, and run a wizard to program them. The hardest part is moving your electronics around to get all of the model numbers!


Their support is great, too. I bought a Lutron fan/light control from my living room specifically because it included IR control. Harmony had the model listed in its records, but didn't quite control the lights the way I wanted to (basically, it was set up to register button pushes as a single "click" regardless of how long one held the button, and I need it to keep registering as long as I held the button down). I emailed Harmony, they asked me a few questions, and then had me "update" the remote though the online interface. Viola! The remote worked the way I wanted it to.
 
2014-03-22 01:34:48 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Their support is great, too. I bought a Lutron fan/light control from my living room specifically because it included IR control. Harmony had the model listed in its records, but didn't quite control the lights the way I wanted to (basically, it was set up to register button pushes as a single "click" regardless of how long one held the button, and I need it to keep registering as long as I held the button down). I emailed Harmony, they asked me a few questions, and then had me "update" the remote though the online interface. Viola! The remote worked the way I wanted it to.


Yep, they are pretty good. When I first got my Roku, I searched through every category that made sense trying to find it to no avail. I emailed tech support, and within 30 minutes had a reply telling me where they were hiding it. Presto, worked first try.
 
2014-03-22 01:48:09 PM  
After a few months of.chromecast, I've grown to.really hate the tv remote.
 
2014-03-22 01:49:38 PM  
The Remote Control The?
 
2014-03-22 01:51:32 PM  
So basically not this?
 
2014-03-22 01:52:29 PM  
From my cold dead hands!
 
2014-03-22 01:53:12 PM  
Though the Harmony One looks good and has good reviews, I'm sure as hell not ready to drop $400 on a remote no matter how good it is. Maybe at $200 that remote would be a good purchase but that's still pricey.
 
2014-03-22 01:55:09 PM  
I'm so sick of Interactive TV. When I want to watch TV or movie that means I want to do as little as possible and be entertained. A remote allows me to do this. Waving my hands around and talking to my TV is making me do the work for my TV. My TV serves me, not the other way around.
 
2014-03-22 01:55:45 PM  
imageshack.us

Why hate Ken Ober so much, Subby?

Seriously though, the mark of current civilization is when you walk into someone's home, and they either have one remote, or the giant pile of the bajillion different ones. :D
 
2014-03-22 01:57:37 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: From my cold dead hands!


Came here to say this^.
Or something like it.
 
2014-03-22 01:58:29 PM  

gwenners: The Remote Control The?


i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-22 02:00:37 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Gecko Gingrich: I like how the author bemoans that when it comes to current remotes "users the world over are forced to navigate alphanumeric keyboards or endless channel lists with single directional button presses", then just two paragraphs later states, "Media streaming devices like Roku, Apple TV...have also effectively begun redesigning the remote control, jettisoning the legion of buttons in favour of simple, slimmed-down schemas of interaction that actually adhere to a general standard of form and function" which force users to navigate alphanumeric keyboards or endless channel lists with single directional button presses.

/Harmony One (for 99% of my remote needs) + iPhone apps for the TiVo and ApppleTV (for the 1% of the time I want a keyboard) = happy Gecko

Gecko, I've been thinking to get a Harmony One, even though I have to get a PS3 extension for it.  I assume you would recommend?


The new version called the Ultimate One includes a Harmony hub for sending BT commands to the PS3, plus the hub also interacts with their smartphone app.

I'm thinking of upgrading at some point, but I'm personally still really happy with my original model One. It's a great remote that was easy to set up. I got a great deal on it, too. I picked it up as a display model at a Magnolia store that was closing in my area for $75, but then when I got it home the touch screen was broken and was all white, but I called Logitech and even after letting them know it was a floor model, they replaced it with a brand new remote still sealed in the box. A few years later, I had the battery go bad and start bulging, and even out of warranty they sent me a new battery since it was a recall item. Logitech really takes care of you.
 
2014-03-22 02:00:52 PM  
I work with high tech all day long, the last thing I want when I get home is more of it. All I really need is a one-button remote labeled "turn my brain to mush." Does anyone, you know, just watch TV any more?

/ I reluctantly suggest that you consider thinking about eventually getting around to leaving my grassy yard, when you're ready
 
2014-03-22 02:02:25 PM  
You can have my remote, when you pry it from my cold dead fingers. That goes for my wife too.
 
2014-03-22 02:03:24 PM  
meh, tv watchers problems.
 
2014-03-22 02:03:51 PM  

gwenners: The Remote Control The?


Yes, THE Remote Control.

This does not refer to the little device people lose under couch cushions or use as a marital aid.  This refers to a little known but ultimately dangerous entity that has the potential to alter reality.  It started small way back when with only the ability to temporarily stop energy from coursing through neural pathways of lesser intelligent creatures within a short distance.  Over time, its powers increased until now it can affect time and space at a cosmic level.  Thus the need to take it out of commission.  Imagine if it simply snapped - *poof* goes the universe.

Now killing it is not that difficult.  it is very susceptible to whatever and boy band music.  The problem is finding it.  The last person who knew where it was went to answer the telephone only to hear Yoko Ono and Kim Kardashian in a lesbian love session (his head imploded to save his soul).
 
2014-03-22 02:04:18 PM  
So, we can have your wife when we pry her from your cold dead fingers?
 
2014-03-22 02:04:47 PM  

MasterAdkins: A smartphone is great, until they battery dies, as a lot of people's phone do daily.  Just simplify the existing controller that lasts for week or months on one battery.


This.  How hard does it have to be?

You need something to turn it on and off, turn the volume up or down, and change channels and/or inputs.  That is it.
 
2014-03-22 02:05:28 PM  
Millions of couples would have nothing to fight over.
 
2014-03-22 02:05:44 PM  
Speak for yourself....

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Rarely watch the cable box, mostly media played from my 20TB media server. This remote works fantastic.
 
2014-03-22 02:07:11 PM  
I use my android tablet with the xbmc remote app to control my htpc that everything on the tv runs through.
 
2014-03-22 02:09:02 PM  
First World Problem
 
2014-03-22 02:09:15 PM  
I never considered using my remote as a chore.
 
2014-03-22 02:09:38 PM  
That was an awful wordy way to say, "Wouldn't it be cool if you could control your T.V. with an android app?"

(The answer is, of course, "Yes.")
 
2014-03-22 02:16:25 PM  
The only downside of the Harmony One is that even it can't really deal with an Xbox One hooked up pass through with a TiVo, unless you create a separate activities for when watching TV and not, because the two device can't share the D-pad and media buttons. I actually wound up buying a Xbox One media remote for watching Netflix because I got tired of the voice commands, the motion control is just hard to use, and the controller turns itself off halfway through an episode.

As an aside, is anyone else annoyed by how much worse the Kinect motion controls are on the Xbox One. The 360 Kinect would only activate if you made a waving motion, while the Xbox One will activate if you move you hands around while talking in front of the TV or you are taking a long swig of a drink. Also, the select gesture is so much harder to pull off, because you now have to push in on the on-screen item, which half the time causes the cursor to slide off the item you were on and on to the item below it or next to it if you don't do the gesture precisely right. On the 360, you just had to hold you hand over an item a few seconds to select. It was slower, but AI found it to be more accurate, which made it easier to use. For all the hardware and software updates they did, somehow I feel like motion controls on the new Kinect are HARDER to use than before.
 
2014-03-22 02:16:39 PM  

Pokey.Clyde: Benevolent Misanthrope: Gecko, I've been thinking to get a Harmony One, even though I have to get a PS3 extension for it. I assume you would recommend?

I'll second Gecko's endorsement. I had a 520 for years, and then a few months ago got a Harmony One. I have yet to have any trouble with either one of them. You simply plug them in to your computer with a USB cable, and run a wizard to program them. The hardest part is moving your electronics around to get all of the model numbers!


I have a 620 and love it.

My laptop died and I got a new one. Does anyone know whether it will read the way the remote is programmed or will I need to start from scratch?
 
2014-03-22 02:17:30 PM  
I thought it had been dead since 1990?

i1126.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-22 02:19:03 PM  
What a "remote control" looked like back in my day...
images.huffingtonpost.com
 
2014-03-22 02:21:03 PM  

albert71292: I don't have anything like a Roku, AppleTV, Tivo, etc. Only two things connected to my television are the coaxial cable coming in from my outside over-the-air antenna and the Blu-ray player. Plain ol' remote control still works fine for my set-up.


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i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-22 02:22:46 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Logitech really takes care of you.


At the risk of sounding like a Logitech fanboy, they really do. I have a second original One they I got at half off because when I called to ask if I could purchase a new number pad for the 550 (all the silk-screened numbers had worn off), they told me that they couldn't send me that part, but they could offer me a 50% coupon for new remote.
 
2014-03-22 02:24:15 PM  
Buttons I need on a TV remote:

- Power On/Off (This should turn all the devices necessary off and on)
- Guide
- On-Demand
- Numbers
- Fast Forward
- Rewind
- Pause
- Stop
- Exit
- Menu
- Page Up
- Page Down
- Volume Up/Down
- Arrow Keys for Menu (Up/Down/Left/Right)
- Info
- Record
- Last
- Mute/Unmute

I need them all on the same plane and need for them to be tactile so that I can operate it without the need for light or when I am drunk. The Comcast remotes are pretty good for the buttons they have and they don't have a lot of extraneous ones. Fark using a smart device as a controller.

If TV needs to be "saved" it is going to come by the way of everything streaming at any time without expensive packages or plans. I would be happy if they just dumped an entire season to be streamed immediately as well. Watch it at your own pace. Who really watches "live" TV anymore? I only do so when I don't have a lot of time and there are no good shows to be streamed real fast. That is basically just so I don't have to eat my food without noise and if I am eating with someone, so we can eat without having to converse to decompress from the day and zone out.
 
2014-03-22 02:24:34 PM  
Jesus. I am out if touch with this thread. I don't own a television and haven't for years. I watch everything online.

Great savings, too, not paying for cable.
 
2014-03-22 02:25:39 PM  
Hey, is there any way I could control my TV by, like, using wild arm gestures and yelling at it? That would be neat.
 
2014-03-22 02:26:52 PM  

Cork on Fork: My laptop died and I got a new one. Does anyone know whether it will read the way the remote is programmed or will I need to start from scratch?


The commands are saved on Logitech's servers, not locally. Install the Harmony app on the new laptop, log into your account and it'll be like you never left.
 
2014-03-22 02:34:44 PM  
For the old folks that grew up with the clunk-clunk-clunk of the 2-13 channel changer knob.

s30.postimg.org
One man's solution to make his remote control "old-people friendly"
 
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2014-03-22 02:36:41 PM  

LesserEvil: Speak for yourself....

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Rarely watch the cable box, mostly media played from my 20TB media server. This remote works fantastic.


I have that exact model.  Works great with my TiVo and my Xbox360.
 
2014-03-22 02:37:35 PM  
I haven't watched TV in 13 years.  Problem solved.
 
2014-03-22 02:37:54 PM  
Hate to say I agree, but I agree.  I remember it being regular schtick to make fun of how complex remotes were back in the 80s, and they've only gotten more, er, featureful since then.  Look at remotes that are in an electronics store (I know, I know, but they do still exist) and you'll notice that they're all different.  Why?

I have three remotes sitting on my couch at the moment.  The TV remote has 40 buttons.  The power button is on the right.  The BD player has 43 buttons (count 'em!)  The power button is on the left.  It's the box that plays movies when our crappy Internet service craps out and we can't stare at Netflix.  Why does a movie player need 43 buttons???!?   My head unit's remote has 57 buttons.  There are two power buttons for some reason, one labeled "source".  The manual is in Engrish, but I'm assuming that there's some sort of universal remote functionality.  They have a Godawful app that I tend to use instead;

My parents have a TV in my old bedroom that dates to 1990 and stereo equipment they got in 1992.  Aside from aesthetics, those remotes really aren't any different than my current remotes.

Yeah, I know about the Logitech Harmony, and I know about phones with IR Blasters.  The solution to bad remotes is to buy a universal remote?  Yeah...no.
 
2014-03-22 02:39:53 PM  

Gunboat: Jesus. I am out if touch with this thread. I don't own a television and haven't for years. I watch everything online.

Great savings, too, not paying for cable


What kind of internet provider are you using?There really isn't much of a difference in price for not having cable tv in addition to internet in my experience. Also, many shows require you have a TV provider to watch them online, unless of course you boot-leg or torrent shiat. TVs are so cheap now, I am surprised you don't have one. For the sheer fact that you can watch a Blu Ray or equal movie on a 48"W + screen it is worth it.
 
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