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(The Tennessean)   Jacked-up micro-distilleries pushing Tennessee Legislature to repeal their legal definition of 'Tennessee Whiskey'. George Dickel unavailable for comment   (tennessean.com) divider line 22
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2014-03-22 08:47:59 AM  
I would suppose that if it is whiskey, and it's made in Tennessee, and you don't go blind after drinking it that it should deserve the Tennessee whiskey moniker.  After supposing that however I would go buy a bottle of Crown Royal, or Pendleton, but then again I might have bad taste.
 
2014-03-22 09:00:53 AM  
So, Brown-Forman paid alot of money last year to ensure that only whiskey made like Jack Daniel's can be labelled Tennessee Whiskey.  I'm sure they will aggressively pursue action against anyone who violates their proprietary process - which means staying within the law but outside their process is extremely difficult.

And never mind that George Dickel is far better.

FARK you Jack Daniel's.  Worthless, over-hyped, boring Bieber of Bourbons.
 
2014-03-22 09:17:13 AM  
I don't get it. The market will sort this out: people will associate Tenn Whiskey with Jack Daniels crap and no one will look for the label. Micro places that don't labeled it such will be in more demand.

Went to Westland Whiskey here in Seattle last weekend and their peated whiskey aged for 2.5 years was just as good as 10 year old stuff from Scotland.
 
2014-03-22 09:37:29 AM  
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Take the tour, if you're ever in the area.

Maker's Mark, I mean. I don't think Fark offers tours.
 
2014-03-22 10:28:10 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: So, Brown-Forman paid alot of money last year to ensure that only whiskey made like Jack Daniel's can be labelled Tennessee Whiskey.  I'm sure they will aggressively pursue action against anyone who violates their proprietary process - which means staying within the law but outside their process is extremely difficult.

And never mind that George Dickel is far better.

FARK you Jack Daniel's.  Worthless, over-hyped, boring Bieber of Bourbons.


I thought I was the only one!

So this is what it feels like... when doves cry...

/ And I'm stealing "Bieber of Bourbons".  Just FYI.
 
2014-03-22 10:36:34 AM  

Irving R. Pointystick: Benevolent Misanthrope: So, Brown-Forman paid alot of money last year to ensure that only whiskey made like Jack Daniel's can be labelled Tennessee Whiskey.  I'm sure they will aggressively pursue action against anyone who violates their proprietary process - which means staying within the law but outside their process is extremely difficult.

And never mind that George Dickel is far better.

FARK you Jack Daniel's.  Worthless, over-hyped, boring Bieber of Bourbons.

I thought I was the only one!

So this is what it feels like... when doves cry...

/ And I'm stealing "Bieber of Bourbons".  Just FYI.


You are not the only one.  Lots of people, even here on Fark, seem to think so, too.

Feel free to use my line.  One of my more inspired moments, IMHO.
 
2014-03-22 10:57:38 AM  
Until recently the only American whiskey I had ever tried was Jack Daniels, and based on that experience (many times over four decades) had come to the conclusion that I'd simply rather not drink bourbon. Rye, Scotch or Canadian is my preferred distilled libation, but corn-based whiskey tasted like shiat to me, based on my experience with JD, so I generally demure.

Then a few months ago my son introduced me to Maker's Mark. Holy Cow, what a difference! I almost passed on it, but he assured me it was completely different to JD, so I gave it a shot (pun very definitely intended...;^)). It was wonderful, so now I suppose I shall have to try other quality brands to get a better feel for what's out there. But Jack Daniels? No matter how they get the laws written or how much they water it down, I'm still not drinking it. Fark that...life's too short to drink rot gut.
 
2014-03-22 11:04:14 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: And never mind that George Dickel is far better.


Saltier than I expected
 
2014-03-22 11:36:31 AM  

lelio: I don't get it. The market will sort this out: people will associate Tenn Whiskey with Jack Daniels crap and no one will look for the label. Micro places that don't labeled it such will be in more demand.

Went to Westland Whiskey here in Seattle last weekend and their peated whiskey aged for 2.5 years was just as good as 10 year old stuff from Scotland.


If you read the article you would realize it isn't about micro-distilleries. The main opponent to the law is a major multinational corporation that happens to own a small distillery in Tennessee (which I bet the intend to expand).
 
2014-03-22 11:52:06 AM  

dywed88: lelio: I don't get it. The market will sort this out: people will associate Tenn Whiskey with Jack Daniels crap and no one will look for the label. Micro places that don't labeled it such will be in more demand.

Went to Westland Whiskey here in Seattle last weekend and their peated whiskey aged for 2.5 years was just as good as 10 year old stuff from Scotland.

If you read the article you would realize it isn't about micro-distilleries. The main opponent to the law is a major multinational corporation that happens to own a small distillery in Tennessee (which I bet the intend to expand).


the name of that distillery Diageo owns:


George Dickel.
 
2014-03-22 12:01:27 PM  
There's nothing like waking up next to an overweight toothless prostitute with one leg. If I were them I'de run from that one as well.
 
2014-03-22 12:19:26 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: So, Brown-Forman paid alot of money last year to ensure that only whiskey made like Jack Daniel's can be labelled Tennessee Whiskey.  I'm sure they will aggressively pursue action against anyone who violates their proprietary process - which means staying within the law but outside their process is extremely difficult.

And never mind that George Dickel is far better.

FARK you Jack Daniel's.  Worthless, over-hyped, boring Bieber of Bourbons.


Old Fedcal
 
2014-03-22 12:37:20 PM  

WSUCanuck: dywed88: lelio: I don't get it. The market will sort this out: people will associate Tenn Whiskey with Jack Daniels crap and no one will look for the label. Micro places that don't labeled it such will be in more demand.

Went to Westland Whiskey here in Seattle last weekend and their peated whiskey aged for 2.5 years was just as good as 10 year old stuff from Scotland.

If you read the article you would realize it isn't about micro-distilleries. The main opponent to the law is a major multinational corporation that happens to own a small distillery in Tennessee (which I bet the intend to expand).

the name of that distillery Diageo owns:


George Dickel.


That doesn't change the fact that the law is overly restrictive for the appelation.  It's as if Scotland said Scotch could only be distilled in small copper pot stills of a certain age and the malt smoked with a certain type of peat.  You could do it, but everybody's Scotch would taste the same.

I don't care if it's supported by a multi-national conglomerate alongside the small guys.  It was pretty obvious to me that Brown-Forman was trying to restrict the market so that they could squeeze out competition - mostly by making themselves the only "real" distiller of Tennessee Whiskey.

Just MHO, though.  I never finished that GED in law.
 
2014-03-22 12:39:21 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Irving R. Pointystick: Benevolent Misanthrope: So, Brown-Forman paid alot of money last year to ensure that only whiskey made like Jack Daniel's can be labelled Tennessee Whiskey.  I'm sure they will aggressively pursue action against anyone who violates their proprietary process - which means staying within the law but outside their process is extremely difficult.

And never mind that George Dickel is far better.

FARK you Jack Daniel's.  Worthless, over-hyped, boring Bieber of Bourbons.

I thought I was the only one!

So this is what it feels like... when doves cry...

/ And I'm stealing "Bieber of Bourbons".  Just FYI.

You are not the only one.  Lots of people, even here on Fark, seem to think so, too.

Feel free to use my line.  One of my more inspired moments, IMHO.


Dickel is objectively better, and 500% better in baked beans.
 
2014-03-22 01:08:45 PM  
Charcoal filtered bourbon = TN Whiskey
Not filtered bourbon = Tn Bourbon (Whiskey)
Not bourbon whiskey = whiskey

Is this a question of semantics? Should filtered bourbon be labeled as "TN (something) Bourbon" where something = "process" or "filtered" so Not bourbon can be called TN Whiskey, like Early Times is called Kentucky Whiskey. What is the goal here?
 
2014-03-22 02:03:17 PM  
Whatever you do, just don't call that swill Whisky.
 
2014-03-22 02:10:04 PM  

Stone Meadow: Until recently the only American whiskey I had ever tried was Jack Daniels, and based on that experience (many times over four decades) had come to the conclusion that I'd simply rather not drink bourbon. Rye, Scotch or Canadian is my preferred distilled libation, but corn-based whiskey tasted like shiat to me, based on my experience with JD, so I generally demure.

Then a few months ago my son introduced me to Maker's Mark. Holy Cow, what a difference! I almost passed on it, but he assured me it was completely different to JD, so I gave it a shot (pun very definitely intended...;^)). It was wonderful, so now I suppose I shall have to try other quality brands to get a better feel for what's out there. But Jack Daniels? No matter how they get the laws written or how much they water it down, I'm still not drinking it. Fark that...life's too short to drink rot gut.


I, too, had JD as my first whiskey experience.  I, too, swore whiskey off altogether.

Then a friend brought some Maker's Mark to an event and I had a shot out of politeness.  Yes indeed, worlds different!

Bourbon is my new go-to.  Knob Creek is my favorite so far.

Then another friend gave me a shot of Crown Royal and I was pleasantly surprised at how much it didn't taste like ass.  It doesn't taste like much of anything, but at least it's not horrible.

In conclusion, Jack Daniels sucks and whiskeys should not be judged by its suckage.
 
2014-03-22 02:16:07 PM  

Alphakronik: Whatever you do, just don't call that swill Whisky.


I assume you're referring to Scotch whisky, that vomit-inducing liquid infused with decaying plant matter.

/And I mean vomit; I can't even smell it
 
2014-03-22 02:51:43 PM  

Mister Peejay: Stone Meadow: Until recently the only American whiskey I had ever tried was Jack Daniels, and based on that experience (many times over four decades) had come to the conclusion that I'd simply rather not drink bourbon. Rye, Scotch or Canadian is my preferred distilled libation, but corn-based whiskey tasted like shiat to me, based on my experience with JD, so I generally demure.

Then a few months ago my son introduced me to Maker's Mark. Holy Cow, what a difference! I almost passed on it, but he assured me it was completely different to JD, so I gave it a shot (pun very definitely intended...;^)). It was wonderful, so now I suppose I shall have to try other quality brands to get a better feel for what's out there. But Jack Daniels? No matter how they get the laws written or how much they water it down, I'm still not drinking it. Fark that...life's too short to drink rot gut.

I, too, had JD as my first whiskey experience.  I, too, swore whiskey off altogether.

Then a friend brought some Maker's Mark to an event and I had a shot out of politeness.  Yes indeed, worlds different!

Bourbon is my new go-to.  Knob Creek is my favorite so far.

Then another friend gave me a shot of Crown Royal and I was pleasantly surprised at how much it didn't taste like ass.  It doesn't taste like much of anything, but at least it's not horrible.

In conclusion, Jack Daniels sucks and whiskeys should not be judged by its suckage.


Well said, sir...well said. :)
 
2014-03-22 07:12:34 PM  
Micro-distilled whiskey threadjack: if you're in the northern Indiana area, you should check out the Indiana Whiskey Company (http://www.inwhiskey.com/).  They're having an IndieGoGo campaign to be able to expand once their aged whiskies are ready to sell (they're just selling the white dog right now).

They're a great company with a great product.  I have no affiliation with them, but I really want them to make it.  If you're ever in South Bend and like whiskey, stop by and have a drink with Charlie at the tasting bar.  You'll have fun.
 
2014-03-23 08:25:48 AM  
Jacked up?
What would a jacked up female distiller look like?
 
2014-03-23 09:19:34 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: So, Brown-Forman paid alot of money last year to ensure that only whiskey made like Jack Daniel's can be labelled Tennessee Whiskey.  I'm sure they will aggressively pursue action against anyone who violates their proprietary process - which means staying within the law but outside their process is extremely difficult.

And never mind that George Dickel is far better.

FARK you Jack Daniel's.  Worthless, over-hyped, boring Bieber of Bourbons.


I'm, isn't a bourbon, not made in Kentucky.
/no offense
 
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