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(Yahoo)   Canadian University makes an apology for making a student apologize for emailing that photo of President Obama kicking down a door. What a sorry country   (ca.news.yahoo.com) divider line 32
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2014-03-22 02:11:20 AM  
4 votes:
I'm starting to think that political correctness is a disease of the mind.
2014-03-22 09:30:58 AM  
2 votes:
3) You don't know what a Godwin is.

4) I'm not spending my Saturday arguing with a right wing shill/troll that communicates exclusively in debunked talking points gleaned from forwarded emails and AM radio.

Good day
2014-03-22 09:07:38 AM  
2 votes:

Epic Fap Session: Mikey1969: This is why although anti-racism laws like Canada and Germany have sound good on paper but don't work in real life. It's similar to anti-hate crime laws here in the US, since they are indeed of vague and open to interpretation, but the hate crime stuff is easier to actually be consistent with. ---Most of the time--- There are still cases where they're really pushing it with the hate crime label, but it's never this silly.

This? This is why you think anti-racism laws don't work? Because occasionally a college goes a little overboard with the PC stuff? Or because the law has a level of ambiguity? I'm sure Germany's neo-Nazi's appreciate your concern.


Nice Goodwin of the thread but the problem with laws against hate speech and even hate crime laws (which can be different) is who gets to define hate speech? Can you have free speech if you have laws against speech that offends some people? You cannot claim to have free speech and at the same time have laws against speech that might offend some people-they cannot coexist. There is no right to not be offended otherwise most rappers should be in jail.

People are entitled to their stupidity and only when they act on that stupidity in manner that causes real harm to others should the law intervene but we should not punish mere thought, we are not Euro-trash.

I am offended by both flag burning and cross burning but I don't think either should be against the law. Again people are entitled to their stupidity


Similarly Hate laws are wrong. Under the concept of equal protection under the law how can you have special protected classes (by race, gender, religion or sexual orientation) where crimes against them are subjected to enhance prosecution efforts and punishments and claim to have equal protection under the law. This is not equal protection but special protection and is wrong and really amounts to nothing more than political pandering.

I acknowledge the need for enhanced penalties for crimes against those less able to defend themselves (children, elderly and the physically/mentally handicapped) but for the rest of us we should all have the same laws applied.
2014-03-22 08:32:02 AM  
2 votes:
criticizing obama? Of course that's racist!
2014-03-22 08:31:29 AM  
2 votes:

itcamefromschenectady: feckingmorons: Microagression is politically correct nonsense only found on college campuses.

According to Wikipedia, the term Microaggression was invented in 1970, so it's not a new thing, just obscure. I notice that Firefox considers "Microaggression" to be a misspelled word, which might in itself be a microaggression.


Also according to Wikipedia, only non-white people seem capable of being victims of it.  The entry only mentions survey results of ethnic minorities.

The idea of a "microaggression" being a punishable offense is just as ridiculous as the notion that white people can't be the victims of racism.  Both mentalities need to go.
2014-03-22 02:59:35 AM  
2 votes:

fusillade762: Microagression

WTF is that? Is that like beating up amoebas or something?


It's how people who want to see racism all around them invent racism when there's nothing real to be found. It's a derivative of an ideology that requires victims in order to maintain relevance.
2014-03-21 09:48:55 PM  
2 votes:
Microagression is politically correct nonsense only found on college campuses.
2014-03-22 09:59:23 PM  
1 votes:
Cuz only black people can kick down doors now or something? Relax, everyone knows it's all fake, that little spindly runt of a man can't even push a garbage hopper 10 feet, much less kick down a door.

Imagine my surprise though at seeing a headline with Obama and apology in it that didn't make me outright ashamed to live under this administration.
2014-03-22 07:13:54 PM  
1 votes:

austerity101: BMFPitt: Microaggression? Really, Canada? Even The Onion couldn't have come up with that.

Flappyhead: feckingmorons: Microagression is politically correct nonsense only found on college campuses.

Done in one.  A bunch of special snowflakes got their hackles up over nothing, end of story.


I get the impression that the people disparaging the notion of microaggressions are white, heterosexual, non-trans males, since microaggressions are most definitely a thing, and they've been studied for 40 years.  Talk to a gay person, a trans person, or a person of color some time, and you might learn what a microaggression is.

Examples:

- "Wow, you're really articulate" ... for a mush-mouthed colored boy
- "Which one of you is the girl and which one is the guy?" ... because your relationship has to fit inside the same gender roles as mine
- "So what are you?" ... because it's totally OK to ask someone this question about their race or gender

/but yes, this case is stupid.
//that doesn't make the concept of microaggressions stupid.


So, where are you doing your graduate studies?
2014-03-22 02:38:10 PM  
1 votes:
That gif was an attempt to show how 'cool' he was, especially in comparison to his clueless predecessor, who had a gif of him endlessly attempting to open a door in a similar situation. Part of Obama's appeal to younger voters and women is how 'cool' he is portrayed to be by the media because of how young (which is, of course, disgusting age discrimination) and how black he is. I just saw a study that showed that part of the problem black kids have in white schools is that the white kids stereotype them as being cooler than they are as a product* of what they presume to be a rougher life and immediately flock to them for street knowledge, immediately abandoning them and leaving them without friends if they fail to conform to the stereotype.

Therefore, the media's portrayal of Obama as a cool President is helping add to the stereotyping and dehumanizing idolization of young black boys in suburban schools, placing undue pressure on them, and must be stopped now. The best way to solve this is to instead show how he is just the same as his crusty older white male predecessors but, of course, that would be nothing more than a sickening way of sweeping historical oppression under the rug and it would unfairly pigeonhole Obama's accomplishments

So, as you can see, we're faced with a conundrum. Perhaps the best solution is simply to abolish the office of President altogether, as it's elevation and endowment of one human being, who must invariably have subscribe to a gender, a sexuality, a race, a name, an age, a preference between dogs or cats, an educational system that fails society's 'others', a magazine that doesn't equally devote time to every single person on Earth's hobbies, a language, a mobile operating system, and the blatantly ableist fetishization of "good" mental health that is inexplicably demanded of our political leaders ALL contributes to the various forms of capitalist oppression and political disenfranchisement that afflict the unquestionably infallible people of our world. But, as a cisabled hetero cissexual cisethnic white cisgendered non-transcis male from a cismiddleclasscisAmericanbackground, my inherently privileged view of the world invariably skews my thoughts towards oppression, so there's a good chance I'm wrong.

*: This word, which implies that black boys are a commodity, is dehumanizing. I greatly apologize for my disgusting remarks and will immediately check my privilege while lamenting that society has not yet deemed it necessary to put me through a period of rehabilitative incarceration where I can be reeducated and abandon my apparently colonialist attitudes
2014-03-22 01:31:15 PM  
1 votes:

austerity101: BMFPitt: Microaggression? Really, Canada? Even The Onion couldn't have come up with that.

Flappyhead: feckingmorons: Microagression is politically correct nonsense only found on college campuses.

Done in one.  A bunch of special snowflakes got their hackles up over nothing, end of story.


I get the impression that the people disparaging the notion of microaggressions are white, heterosexual, non-trans males, since microaggressions are most definitely a thing, and they've been studied for 40 years.  Talk to a gay person, a trans person, or a person of color some time, and you might learn what a microaggression is.

Examples:

- "Wow, you're really articulate" ... for a mush-mouthed colored boy
- "Which one of you is the girl and which one is the guy?" ... because your relationship has to fit inside the same gender roles as mine
- "So what are you?" ... because it's totally OK to ask someone this question about their race or gender

/but yes, this case is stupid.
//that doesn't make the concept of microaggressions stupid.


Yeah, those white, cis-gendered, hetero males sure do police their hegemonic norms. No one else does that kind of thing.
2014-03-22 12:40:59 PM  
1 votes:

Epic Fap Session: Mikey1969: This is why although anti-racism laws like Canada and Germany have sound good on paper but don't work in real life. It's similar to anti-hate crime laws here in the US, since they are indeed of vague and open to interpretation, but the hate crime stuff is easier to actually be consistent with. ---Most of the time--- There are still cases where they're really pushing it with the hate crime label, but it's never this silly.

This? This is why you think anti-racism laws don't work? Because occasionally a college goes a little overboard with the PC stuff? Or because the law has a level of ambiguity? I'm sure Germany's neo-Nazi's appreciate your concern.


No, this is a good example of why they don't work. They are too broad and open to interpretation, so people get busted for ridiculous shiat. They sound nice to people who don't take the time to think, but then you end up with people defining "racism" however they want, and things that are in no way racist end up getting someone busted.

I guess I over estimated the ability of some people to comprehend a simple point. Go ahead and recover from your head exploding all over your keyboard and type back yet another reply that misses the point. I'm sure that I won't be able to go through my day until I know what you think about what I didn't mean to imply.
2014-03-22 12:17:28 PM  
1 votes:

feckingmorons: Microagression is politically correct nonsense only found on college campuses.


Done in one.  A bunch of special snowflakes got their hackles up over nothing, end of story.
2014-03-22 10:54:45 AM  
1 votes:

Epic Fap Session: 3) You don't know what a Godwin is.

4) I'm not spending my Saturday arguing with a right wing shill/troll that communicates exclusively in debunked talking points gleaned from forwarded emails and AM radio.

Good day


Aww, someone ran into logic they couldn't counter so they took their ball and went home.

Good day indeed.
2014-03-22 09:39:37 AM  
1 votes:
No, it's getting as bad as thought crime up here.

Online, private locker-room chat between buddies is now perpetuating rape culture.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/ottawa-student-leader-d en ounces-rape-culture-on-canadian-campuses/article17186058/

/now suspect that fark perpetuates rape culture in any "I'd hit it" thread
2014-03-22 08:27:47 AM  
1 votes:
The school did the right thing when it forced the apology. You can't allow ANYTHING that might be considered derogatory to be said when dealing with such a thin skinned narcissist as obama. Always best to error on the side of caution rather than dealing with the obamorons or his fascist enablers.
2014-03-22 08:23:32 AM  
1 votes:

hasty ambush: Halli: hasty ambush: Snapper Carr: I still don't understand how that's politically incorrect? Is it something to do with a stereotype of an angry black man? Does McGill house an easily offended guild of masons that specializes n doors? What gives?

Anything that portrays Obama in a less than favorable way is inherently racist and therefore non-PC

Those are some deep teabagger thoughts.

So Oprah, Colin Powell and Robert Redford are tea baggers

Oprah: President Obama Disrespected Because He's Black, Racism 'Has to Die'

Colin Powell says attacks on Obama are 'racist'

Robert Redford: "Racism" Behind Opposition To Obama


Hmm all of them talk about some instances. Colin Powell even talks about certain incidents. A bit different than the anything teabagger whine from you.
2014-03-22 07:52:01 AM  
1 votes:

Halli: hasty ambush: Snapper Carr: I still don't understand how that's politically incorrect? Is it something to do with a stereotype of an angry black man? Does McGill house an easily offended guild of masons that specializes n doors? What gives?

Anything that portrays Obama in a less than favorable way is inherently racist and therefore non-PC

Those are some deep teabagger thoughts.


So Oprah, Colin Powell and Robert Redford are tea baggers



Oprah: President Obama Disrespected Because He's Black, Racism 'Has to Die'

Colin Powell says attacks on Obama are 'racist'

Robert Redford: "Racism" Behind Opposition To Obama
2014-03-22 06:32:43 AM  
1 votes:
Urgh, knew it'd be McGill, clicked link, saw McGill, closed tab. PC University strikes yet again... If I ever thought Dalhousie was a bit too sensitive when I went there, at least I can be glad it wasn't McGill.
2014-03-22 05:56:26 AM  
1 votes:

Snapper Carr: I still don't understand how that's politically incorrect? Is it something to do with a stereotype of an angry black man? Does McGill house an easily offended guild of masons that specializes n doors? What gives?


Anything that portrays Obama in a less than favorable way is inherently racist and therefore non-PC
2014-03-22 05:03:24 AM  
1 votes:
This is why although anti-racism laws like Canada and Germany have sound good on paper but don't work in real life. It's similar to anti-hate crime laws here in the US, since they are indeed of vague and open to interpretation, but the hate crime stuff is easier to actually be consistent with. ---Most of the time--- There are still cases where they're really pushing it with the hate crime label, but it's never this silly.
2014-03-22 04:08:41 AM  
1 votes:

iheartscotch: I'm starting to think that political correctness is a disease of the mind.


No - it's just an aphorism that has no power people don't choose to give it.
2014-03-22 04:03:54 AM  
1 votes:
i1199.photobucket.com
2014-03-22 03:42:07 AM  
1 votes:
When I was doing my undergrad at McGill a few years ago the student government decided to hold a referendum on whether or not the school should formally admonish Israel for their invasion of Lebanon. Normally nobody ever attends any political functions at McGill but there are sizable Jewish and Muslim populations that go there, so this particular vote got out of hand real fast. There were so many people that the vote-counters couldn't keep track of them all, so somebody had the brilliant idea to ask all people who were pro-Israel to stand at one of the gymnasium and all the anti-Israel people to stand on the other side. It never exploded past a lot of yelling and name-calling across the gym, but I'm pretty sure it was the closest I've ever come to being in a race war.
There are a lot of similar incidents that happened during my time there, but the moral of the story is that the McGill student government has a history of being as PC as possible, while being contextually oblivious.
/csb
2014-03-22 02:52:36 AM  
1 votes:

iheartscotch: Mock26: iheartscotch: Mock26: "But someone didn't see the humour. Instead, they felt the image perpetuated a stereotype depicting black men as aggressive people and filed a complaint. "

So, no pictures of Cassius Clay or Sugar Ray Leonard either?

Not unless you're willing to admit your racist nature!

/ and don't even THINK of using a picture of Mohammad Ali

// not serious

Ever notice that you never see Mohammad Ali and Cassius Clay in the same picture together?  Kind of makes you wonder what sort of funny stuff is going on there.

Besides the one where Mohammad Ali is standing over Cassius Clay in the ring? Or am I thinking of a different picture?

/ in tribute to Mohammad Ali; I often say the phrase, "float like a butterfly and sting like when I pee"


Whoosh! I done goofed! Mohammad Ali is Cassius Clay. And, I was thinking of Mohammad Ali's bout with Sonny Liston.
2014-03-22 02:49:24 AM  
1 votes:
On my PC multimeter, this story registered 4 microangries, 12 milliWTFs, and 1 femtofacepalm.
2014-03-22 02:45:15 AM  
1 votes:

iheartscotch: Mock26: "But someone didn't see the humour. Instead, they felt the image perpetuated a stereotype depicting black men as aggressive people and filed a complaint. "

So, no pictures of Cassius Clay or Sugar Ray Leonard either?

Not unless you're willing to admit your racist nature!

/ and don't even THINK of using a picture of Mohammad Ali

// not serious


Ever notice that you never see Mohammad Ali and Cassius Clay in the same picture together?  Kind of makes you wonder what sort of funny stuff is going on there.
2014-03-22 02:42:50 AM  
1 votes:
For The Record, McGill University also disowns the McGill student who killed Harry Houdini because a.) Harry H's 'pre-existing condition', a bugaboo with socialized medicine & b.) he didn't graduate http://www.archives.mcgill.ca/reference/ref_reffaqs.htm#F
2014-03-22 02:37:55 AM  
1 votes:
Somebody found Jay Leno too edgy!
2014-03-22 01:25:52 AM  
1 votes:

fusillade762: Microagression

WTF is that? Is that like beating up amoebas or something?


Its when Baron Karza sneaks out from under your bed and hits you in the shins with his rocket fits.
2014-03-22 12:25:02 AM  
1 votes:
Microagression

WTF is that? Is that like beating up amoebas or something?
2014-03-21 09:59:47 PM  
1 votes:

feckingmorons: Microagression is politically correct nonsense only found on college campuses.


According to Wikipedia, the term Microaggression was invented in 1970, so it's not a new thing, just obscure. I notice that Firefox considers "Microaggression" to be a misspelled word, which might in itself be a microaggression.
 
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