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2014-03-22 06:05:38 AM  

GrendelMk1: Gyrfalcon: You know, Canadia, there's such a thing as being TOO polite.

Sorry.


Dammit, that's what I get for not refreshing...

Sorry.
 
2014-03-22 06:09:09 AM  

iheartscotch: iheartscotch: Mock26: iheartscotch: Mock26: "But someone didn't see the humour. Instead, they felt the image perpetuated a stereotype depicting black men as aggressive people and filed a complaint. "

So, no pictures of Cassius Clay or Sugar Ray Leonard either?

Not unless you're willing to admit your racist nature!

/ and don't even THINK of using a picture of Mohammad Ali

// not serious

Ever notice that you never see Mohammad Ali and Cassius Clay in the same picture together?  Kind of makes you wonder what sort of funny stuff is going on there.

Besides the one where Mohammad Ali is standing over Cassius Clay in the ring? Or am I thinking of a different picture?

/ in tribute to Mohammad Ali; I often say the phrase, "float like a butterfly and sting like when I pee"

Whoosh! I done goofed! Mohammad Ali is Cassius Clay. And, I was thinking of Mohammad Ali's bout with Sonny Liston.


Oh. I thought you were making some deep introspective sociorelugious point about how his later Muslim identity had defeated his earlier Christian identity...
 
2014-03-22 06:14:11 AM  

hasty ambush: Snapper Carr: I still don't understand how that's politically incorrect? Is it something to do with a stereotype of an angry black man? Does McGill house an easily offended guild of masons that specializes n doors? What gives?

Anything that portrays Obama in a less than favorable way is inherently racist and therefore non-PC


Those are some deep teabagger thoughts.
 
2014-03-22 06:27:15 AM  

LonMead: "I'm sorry."

or

"I'm really, really sorry."


No, I'm sorry.
 
2014-03-22 06:32:43 AM  
Urgh, knew it'd be McGill, clicked link, saw McGill, closed tab. PC University strikes yet again... If I ever thought Dalhousie was a bit too sensitive when I went there, at least I can be glad it wasn't McGill.
 
2014-03-22 07:49:01 AM  
I never even thought racist.  I figured he was showing Bush how to open locked doors. Sort of like..here this shows determination and resolve instead of just grabbing the doors and mugging for the camera when they defeat you.  Cut to the Mission Accomplished banner....
 
2014-03-22 07:52:01 AM  

Halli: hasty ambush: Snapper Carr: I still don't understand how that's politically incorrect? Is it something to do with a stereotype of an angry black man? Does McGill house an easily offended guild of masons that specializes n doors? What gives?

Anything that portrays Obama in a less than favorable way is inherently racist and therefore non-PC

Those are some deep teabagger thoughts.


So Oprah, Colin Powell and Robert Redford are tea baggers



Oprah: President Obama Disrespected Because He's Black, Racism 'Has to Die'

Colin Powell says attacks on Obama are 'racist'

Robert Redford: "Racism" Behind Opposition To Obama
 
2014-03-22 08:06:01 AM  

Lochsteppe: administrative violence


That might be how I would describe the keynote speech at my college graduation.

Or perhaps it's what I wanted to do in response to it.  I don't know.

Gist of the speech:  "Congratulations, by earning a degree, you are contributing to the wage gap in America."
 
2014-03-22 08:20:58 AM  
Obama don`t take no shiat, not even from doors.

I see that as a good thing.
 
2014-03-22 08:23:32 AM  

hasty ambush: Halli: hasty ambush: Snapper Carr: I still don't understand how that's politically incorrect? Is it something to do with a stereotype of an angry black man? Does McGill house an easily offended guild of masons that specializes n doors? What gives?

Anything that portrays Obama in a less than favorable way is inherently racist and therefore non-PC

Those are some deep teabagger thoughts.

So Oprah, Colin Powell and Robert Redford are tea baggers

Oprah: President Obama Disrespected Because He's Black, Racism 'Has to Die'

Colin Powell says attacks on Obama are 'racist'

Robert Redford: "Racism" Behind Opposition To Obama


Hmm all of them talk about some instances. Colin Powell even talks about certain incidents. A bit different than the anything teabagger whine from you.
 
2014-03-22 08:27:47 AM  
The school did the right thing when it forced the apology. You can't allow ANYTHING that might be considered derogatory to be said when dealing with such a thin skinned narcissist as obama. Always best to error on the side of caution rather than dealing with the obamorons or his fascist enablers.
 
2014-03-22 08:31:29 AM  

itcamefromschenectady: feckingmorons: Microagression is politically correct nonsense only found on college campuses.

According to Wikipedia, the term Microaggression was invented in 1970, so it's not a new thing, just obscure. I notice that Firefox considers "Microaggression" to be a misspelled word, which might in itself be a microaggression.


Also according to Wikipedia, only non-white people seem capable of being victims of it.  The entry only mentions survey results of ethnic minorities.

The idea of a "microaggression" being a punishable offense is just as ridiculous as the notion that white people can't be the victims of racism.  Both mentalities need to go.
 
2014-03-22 08:32:02 AM  
criticizing obama? Of course that's racist!
 
2014-03-22 08:41:04 AM  

Mikey1969: This is why although anti-racism laws like Canada and Germany have sound good on paper but don't work in real life. It's similar to anti-hate crime laws here in the US, since they are indeed of vague and open to interpretation, but the hate crime stuff is easier to actually be consistent with. ---Most of the time--- There are still cases where they're really pushing it with the hate crime label, but it's never this silly.


This? This is why you think anti-racism laws don't work? Because occasionally a college goes a little overboard with the PC stuff? Or because the law has a level of ambiguity? I'm sure Germany's neo-Nazi's appreciate your concern.
 
2014-03-22 09:07:38 AM  

Epic Fap Session: Mikey1969: This is why although anti-racism laws like Canada and Germany have sound good on paper but don't work in real life. It's similar to anti-hate crime laws here in the US, since they are indeed of vague and open to interpretation, but the hate crime stuff is easier to actually be consistent with. ---Most of the time--- There are still cases where they're really pushing it with the hate crime label, but it's never this silly.

This? This is why you think anti-racism laws don't work? Because occasionally a college goes a little overboard with the PC stuff? Or because the law has a level of ambiguity? I'm sure Germany's neo-Nazi's appreciate your concern.


Nice Goodwin of the thread but the problem with laws against hate speech and even hate crime laws (which can be different) is who gets to define hate speech? Can you have free speech if you have laws against speech that offends some people? You cannot claim to have free speech and at the same time have laws against speech that might offend some people-they cannot coexist. There is no right to not be offended otherwise most rappers should be in jail.

People are entitled to their stupidity and only when they act on that stupidity in manner that causes real harm to others should the law intervene but we should not punish mere thought, we are not Euro-trash.

I am offended by both flag burning and cross burning but I don't think either should be against the law. Again people are entitled to their stupidity


Similarly Hate laws are wrong. Under the concept of equal protection under the law how can you have special protected classes (by race, gender, religion or sexual orientation) where crimes against them are subjected to enhance prosecution efforts and punishments and claim to have equal protection under the law. This is not equal protection but special protection and is wrong and really amounts to nothing more than political pandering.

I acknowledge the need for enhanced penalties for crimes against those less able to defend themselves (children, elderly and the physically/mentally handicapped) but for the rest of us we should all have the same laws applied.
 
2014-03-22 09:15:48 AM  

hasty ambush: Anything that portrays Obama in a less than favorable way is inherently racist


OnlyM3: criticizing obama? Of course that's racist!


it's funny how this isn't anything that even criticizes Obama it's just PC idiocy run amok but the right wing wackos can't form an original thought so they just go with some derping point that kinda sorta fits the topic, it makes it funnier that there's two of you doing it, it further shows how programmed the right wing is.
 
2014-03-22 09:20:23 AM  

Headso: hasty ambush: Anything that portrays Obama in a less than favorable way is inherently racist

OnlyM3: criticizing obama? Of course that's racist!

it's funny how this isn't anything that even criticizes Obama it's just PC idiocy run amok but the right wing wackos can't form an original thought so they just go with some derping point that kinda sorta fits the topic, it makes it funnier that there's two of you doing it, it further shows how programmed the right wing is.


There is even a third guy doing it in this thread. Of course he is so overboard that he's probably joking.
 
2014-03-22 09:22:35 AM  

hasty ambush: Epic Fap Session: Mikey1969: This is why although anti-racism laws like Canada and Germany have sound good on paper but don't work in real life. It's similar to anti-hate crime laws here in the US, since they are indeed of vague and open to interpretation, but the hate crime stuff is easier to actually be consistent with. ---Most of the time--- There are still cases where they're really pushing it with the hate crime label, but it's never this silly.

This? This is why you think anti-racism laws don't work? Because occasionally a college goes a little overboard with the PC stuff? Or because the law has a level of ambiguity? I'm sure Germany's neo-Nazi's appreciate your concern.

Nice Goodwin of the thread but the problem with laws against hate speech and even hate crime laws (which can be different) is who gets to define hate speech? Can you have free speech if you have laws against speech that offends some people? You cannot claim to have free speech and at the same time have laws against speech that might offend some people-they cannot coexist. There is no right to not be offended otherwise most rappers should be in jail.

People are entitled to their stupidity and only when they act on that stupidity in manner that causes real harm to others should the law intervene but we should not punish mere thought, we are not Euro-trash.

I am offended by both flag burning and cross burning but I don't think either should be against the law. Again people are entitled to their stupidity


Similarly Hate laws are wrong. Under the concept of equal protection under the law how can you have special protected classes (by race, gender, religion or sexual orientation) where crimes against them are subjected to enhance prosecution efforts and punishments and claim to have equal protection under the law. This is not equal protection but special protection and is wrong and really amounts to nothing more than political pandering.

I acknowledge the need for enhanced pena ...


1) I didn't bring up Germany's laws.

2) While the rest of your post is lengthy and uses words, it's not really a response to what I posted.
 
2014-03-22 09:30:58 AM  
3) You don't know what a Godwin is.

4) I'm not spending my Saturday arguing with a right wing shill/troll that communicates exclusively in debunked talking points gleaned from forwarded emails and AM radio.

Good day
 
2014-03-22 09:32:55 AM  
blogs.psychcentral.com

microaggression-in the Chrome spell check
 
2014-03-22 09:39:37 AM  
No, it's getting as bad as thought crime up here.

Online, private locker-room chat between buddies is now perpetuating rape culture.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/ottawa-student-leader-d en ounces-rape-culture-on-canadian-campuses/article17186058/

/now suspect that fark perpetuates rape culture in any "I'd hit it" thread
 
2014-03-22 09:40:32 AM  
Granted, I only know around thirty or so anglophone Montrealers, but they do seem to think that any criticism of the President is inherently racist. Of course, they also think anyone outside of Boston, NYC, LA or Florida is surely a cowboy.
 
2014-03-22 09:49:59 AM  

Shrapnel: We can fix this.


At first, I was afraid there would be no PCU references. Then you restored my faith in Fark. Bless you Shrapnel!
 
2014-03-22 09:51:20 AM  

Headso: hasty ambush: Anything that portrays Obama in a less than favorable way is inherently racist

OnlyM3: criticizing obama? Of course that's racist!

it's funny how this isn't anything that even criticizes Obama it's just PC idiocy run amok but the right wing wackos can't form an original thought so they just go with some derping point that kinda sorta fits the topic, it makes it funnier that there's two of you doing it, it further shows how programmed the right wing is.


IOW there's a blah man in the White House. We get it.

Derpers take note: he'll be out of there on January 20th, 2017. Have some patience, will ya?
 
2014-03-22 10:12:08 AM  

Mock26: iheartscotch: Mock26: "But someone didn't see the humour. Instead, they felt the image perpetuated a stereotype depicting black men as aggressive people and filed a complaint. "

So, no pictures of Cassius Clay or Sugar Ray Leonard either?

Not unless you're willing to admit your racist nature!

/ and don't even THINK of using a picture of Mohammad Ali

// not serious

Ever notice that you never see Mohammad Ali and Cassius Clay in the same picture together?  Kind of makes you wonder what sort of funny stuff is going on there.


Well, he is the Black Superman.
 
2014-03-22 10:19:58 AM  
Microaggression? Really, Canada? Even The Onion couldn't have come up with that.
 
2014-03-22 10:45:38 AM  

iheartscotch: Mock26: iheartscotch: Mock26: "But someone didn't see the humour. Instead, they felt the image perpetuated a stereotype depicting black men as aggressive people and filed a complaint. "

So, no pictures of Cassius Clay or Sugar Ray Leonard either?

Not unless you're willing to admit your racist nature!

/ and don't even THINK of using a picture of Mohammad Ali

// not serious

Ever notice that you never see Mohammad Ali and Cassius Clay in the same picture together?  Kind of makes you wonder what sort of funny stuff is going on there.

Besides the one where Mohammad Ali is standing over Cassius Clay in the ring? Or am I thinking of a different picture?

/ in tribute to Mohammad Ali; I often say the phrase, "float like a butterfly and sting like when I pee"


And here I thought that you were playing along with my joke!
 
2014-03-22 10:47:02 AM  

BumpInTheNight: Wow, who ever complained about that is an entitled piece of shiat that needs to check their privilege.


Oooh!  Nice hockey reference.
 
2014-03-22 10:54:45 AM  

Epic Fap Session: 3) You don't know what a Godwin is.

4) I'm not spending my Saturday arguing with a right wing shill/troll that communicates exclusively in debunked talking points gleaned from forwarded emails and AM radio.

Good day


Aww, someone ran into logic they couldn't counter so they took their ball and went home.

Good day indeed.
 
2014-03-22 11:02:07 AM  

iheartscotch: I'm starting to think that political correctness is a disease of the mind.


This idea that we should try not to deliberately upset people truly is a disease of the mind.
 
2014-03-22 11:11:53 AM  
Sore-y.
 
2014-03-22 11:34:59 AM  
Canadakota
 
2014-03-22 11:38:06 AM  

Halli: hasty ambush: Snapper Carr: I still don't understand how that's politically incorrect? Is it something to do with a stereotype of an angry black man? Does McGill house an easily offended guild of masons that specializes n doors? What gives?

Anything that portrays Obama in a less than favorable way is inherently racist and therefore non-PC

Those are some deep derp teabagger "thoughts".


FTFY.
 
2014-03-22 11:40:34 AM  

BeesNuts: This idea that we should try not to deliberately upset people truly is a disease of the mind.


Corollary: The idea that we somehow "win" by making other people upset is also a disease of the mind.
 
2014-03-22 11:51:58 AM  
Headso
2014-03-22 09:15:48 AM
(favorite: CA has a surplus 8061727)

hasty ambush: Anything that portrays Obama in a less than favorable way is inherently racist

OnlyM3: criticizing obama? Of course that's racist!

it's funny how this isn't anything that even criticizes Obama it's just PC idiocy run amok but the right wing wackos can't form an original thought so they just go with some derping point that kinda sorta fits the topic, it makes it funnier that there's two of you doing it, it further shows how programmed the right wing is.

It's called projection. Get back on your meds.


Not that I'm surprised you're incapable of reading so get a big person near you to help you out with the following claim from the liberals ...

FTFA: "...-racist image of..."

You're so used to following your idiotic talking points that whenever anyone makes a statement you begin projecting your mental illness on others.
 
2014-03-22 12:01:03 PM  

fusillade762: Microagression

WTF is that? Is that like beating up amoebas or something?


It's nothing compared to nanoaggression.
 
2014-03-22 12:03:29 PM  
Crap like this is why smart canadians move to the states. And disavow the maple leaf.
 
2014-03-22 12:06:24 PM  

wiredmaverick: When I was doing my undergrad at McGill a few years ago the student government decided to hold a referendum on whether or not the school should formally admonish Israel for their invasion of Lebanon. Normally nobody ever attends any political functions at McGill but there are sizable Jewish and Muslim populations that go there, so this particular vote got out of hand real fast. There were so many people that the vote-counters couldn't keep track of them all, so somebody had the brilliant idea to ask all people who were pro-Israel to stand at one of the gymnasium and all the anti-Israel people to stand on the other side. It never exploded past a lot of yelling and name-calling across the gym, but I'm pretty sure it was the closest I've ever come to being in a race war.
There are a lot of similar incidents that happened during my time there, but the moral of the story is that the McGill student government has a history of being as PC as possible, while being contextually oblivious.
/csb


I understand. That phrase reminded me of working at a UPN affilliate when "The Secret Diary Of Desmond Pfeiffer" was about to be premiered. In Pine Bluff Arkansas.


\pale Ginger
\\I know, the above was redundant
 
2014-03-22 12:17:28 PM  

feckingmorons: Microagression is politically correct nonsense only found on college campuses.


Done in one.  A bunch of special snowflakes got their hackles up over nothing, end of story.
 
2014-03-22 12:25:27 PM  

That Guy Jeff: fusillade762: Microagression

WTF is that? Is that like beating up amoebas or something?

It's how people who want to see racism all around them invent racism when there's nothing real to be found. It's a derivative of an ideology that requires victims in order to maintain relevance.


Neo-Liberalism. Identity Politics. Democrats.
 
2014-03-22 12:37:31 PM  

BMFPitt: Microaggression? Really, Canada? Even The Onion couldn't have come up with that.


Flappyhead: feckingmorons: Microagression is politically correct nonsense only found on college campuses.

Done in one.  A bunch of special snowflakes got their hackles up over nothing, end of story.



I get the impression that the people disparaging the notion of microaggressions are white, heterosexual, non-trans males, since microaggressions are most definitely a thing, and they've been studied for 40 years.  Talk to a gay person, a trans person, or a person of color some time, and you might learn what a microaggression is.

Examples:

- "Wow, you're really articulate" ... for a mush-mouthed colored boy
- "Which one of you is the girl and which one is the guy?" ... because your relationship has to fit inside the same gender roles as mine
- "So what are you?" ... because it's totally OK to ask someone this question about their race or gender

/but yes, this case is stupid.
//that doesn't make the concept of microaggressions stupid.
 
2014-03-22 12:40:59 PM  

Epic Fap Session: Mikey1969: This is why although anti-racism laws like Canada and Germany have sound good on paper but don't work in real life. It's similar to anti-hate crime laws here in the US, since they are indeed of vague and open to interpretation, but the hate crime stuff is easier to actually be consistent with. ---Most of the time--- There are still cases where they're really pushing it with the hate crime label, but it's never this silly.

This? This is why you think anti-racism laws don't work? Because occasionally a college goes a little overboard with the PC stuff? Or because the law has a level of ambiguity? I'm sure Germany's neo-Nazi's appreciate your concern.


No, this is a good example of why they don't work. They are too broad and open to interpretation, so people get busted for ridiculous shiat. They sound nice to people who don't take the time to think, but then you end up with people defining "racism" however they want, and things that are in no way racist end up getting someone busted.

I guess I over estimated the ability of some people to comprehend a simple point. Go ahead and recover from your head exploding all over your keyboard and type back yet another reply that misses the point. I'm sure that I won't be able to go through my day until I know what you think about what I didn't mean to imply.
 
2014-03-22 12:41:16 PM  
Yeah, Canadian U. is a sorry-ass school,...but they have the same chance as Duke of making the Final Four.
 
2014-03-22 12:43:01 PM  

hasty ambush: Epic Fap Session: Mikey1969: This is why although anti-racism laws like Canada and Germany have sound good on paper but don't work in real life. It's similar to anti-hate crime laws here in the US, since they are indeed of vague and open to interpretation, but the hate crime stuff is easier to actually be consistent with. ---Most of the time--- There are still cases where they're really pushing it with the hate crime label, but it's never this silly.

This? This is why you think anti-racism laws don't work? Because occasionally a college goes a little overboard with the PC stuff? Or because the law has a level of ambiguity? I'm sure Germany's neo-Nazi's appreciate your concern.

Nice Goodwin of the thread but the problem with laws against hate speech and even hate crime laws (which can be different) is who gets to define hate speech? Can you have free speech if you have laws against speech that offends some people? You cannot claim to have free speech and at the same time have laws against speech that might offend some people-they cannot coexist. There is no right to not be offended otherwise most rappers should be in jail.

People are entitled to their stupidity and only when they act on that stupidity in manner that causes real harm to others should the law intervene but we should not punish mere thought, we are not Euro-trash.

I am offended by both flag burning and cross burning but I don't think either should be against the law. Again people are entitled to their stupidity


Similarly Hate laws are wrong. Under the concept of equal protection under the law how can you have special protected classes (by race, gender, religion or sexual orientation) where crimes against them are subjected to enhance prosecution efforts and punishments and claim to have equal protection under the law. This is not equal protection but special protection and is wrong and really amounts to nothing more than political pandering.

I acknowledge the need for enhanced pena ...


Yeah, man.  And how come there are laws that apply specifically to pregnant women, but not other women?  That's totally not fair.  And where the heck are the hospitals for people who aren't sick or injured?  And don't even get me started on the complete lack of restaurants for people who aren't hungry, or that nowhere can you find cemeteries for the living.
 
2014-03-22 12:46:00 PM  

Nemo's Brother: That Guy Jeff: fusillade762: Microagression

WTF is that? Is that like beating up amoebas or something?

It's how people who want to see racism all around them invent racism when there's nothing real to be found. It's a derivative of an ideology that requires victims in order to maintain relevance.

Neo-Liberalism. Identity Politics. Democrats.


You do realize that Neoliberalism is just another name for the economic policies of libertarianism, right?
 
2014-03-22 01:17:26 PM  
"Honestly midterms get out of here," the cheeky email read. But someone didn't see the humour. Instead, they felt the image perpetuated a stereotype depicting black men as aggressive people and filed a complaint.

And your complaint and his subsequent auto-da-fé forced apology gets them a new stereotype as thin-skinned, humorless martinets. Nice work.
 
2014-03-22 01:20:53 PM  

Launch Code: The school did the right thing when it forced the apology. You can't allow ANYTHING that might be considered derogatory to be said when dealing with such a thin skinned narcissist as obama. Always best to error on the side of caution rather than dealing with the obamorons or his fascist enablers.


The school didn't force the apology. The SSMU did, and then reconsidered. AFAIK, the administration has had no official involvement.
 
2014-03-22 01:22:26 PM  

Halli: hasty ambush: Snapper Carr: I still don't understand how that's politically incorrect? Is it something to do with a stereotype of an angry black man? Does McGill house an easily offended guild of masons that specializes n doors? What gives?

Anything that portrays Obama in a less than favorable way is inherently racist and therefore non-PC

Those are some deep teabagger thoughts.


It's also the truth.
 
2014-03-22 01:23:51 PM  
Why won't Obama apologize?!
 
2014-03-22 01:30:07 PM  

happydude45: Halli: hasty ambush: Snapper Carr: I still don't understand how that's politically incorrect? Is it something to do with a stereotype of an angry black man? Does McGill house an easily offended guild of masons that specializes n doors? What gives?

Anything that portrays Obama in a less than favorable way is inherently racist and therefore non-PC

Those are some deep teabagger thoughts.

It's also the truth.


bluebattinghelmet.files.wordpress.com

Heritage not hate.  Got it.
 
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