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2014-03-21 08:18:55 PM  
The dog thing should be behind him.  What's not behind him is the fact that, if he manages to complete a season without injury, it would be the first such injury-free season since early on when he was a Falcon.  I'll wish him well because he's not a bad guy and he plays in a conference and division that will have no impact on the Eagles.
 
2014-03-21 09:00:30 PM  
Revis will pick-six Vick in the years first Jets-Pats game and the wailing of Jets fans will be delicious.
 
2014-03-21 09:19:05 PM  

Prey4reign: The dog thing should be behind him.  What's not behind him is the fact that, if he manages to complete a season without injury, it would be the first such injury-free season since early on when he was a Falcon.  I'll wish him well because he's not a bad guy and he plays in a conference and division that will have no impact on the Eagles.


Really I think he's a better match for Geno as back-up than Sanchez would've been.  When he's healthy, Vick is the better QB compared to Sanchez.  When he's not, Geno can go in to get his field time.  More importantly, when Vick is healthy, Geno can take the time to grow and become the QB he's shown he has the capability to be without drowning in the stress of carrying a struggling team as a new QB.  Ultimately, even if Vick doesn't become their franchise solution, they can invest some time in Geno and potentially get their solution that way.
 
2014-03-21 09:28:59 PM  
Shouldn't that read 'Ron Mexico'?
 
2014-03-21 09:32:19 PM  
Hey, NBC url-creating-guy, who the hell is "Marck Sanchez"?
 
2014-03-21 09:36:01 PM  
Why the FAIL tag? Is subby suggesting Sanchez is better than Vick? 'Cos that's just laughable (if I gave a shiat)
 
2014-03-21 09:46:15 PM  
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2014-03-21 10:01:58 PM  

John Buck 41: Why the FAIL tag? Is subby suggesting Sanchez is better than Vick? 'Cos that's just laughable (if I gave a shiat)


You question when the FAIL tag is used for the Jets?
 
2014-03-21 10:14:26 PM  
The Jets new fight song, "Send In The Clowns"
 
2014-03-21 10:18:20 PM  
i63.photobucket.com

'Cause you had a bad day
You're taking one down
Something something something just to turn it around

You had a bad day
The camera don't lie
You're coming back down and you really don't mind

You had a bad day-ee-ay...

You had a bad day
 
2014-03-21 10:18:40 PM  

Banacek: John Buck 41: Why the FAIL tag? Is subby suggesting Sanchez is better than Vick? 'Cos that's just laughable (if I gave a shiat)

You question when the FAIL tag is used for the Jets?


Actually, I believe that tag is hard-coded for Jets articles.
 
2014-03-21 10:25:01 PM  

Summoner101: Prey4reign: The dog thing should be behind him.  What's not behind him is the fact that, if he manages to complete a season without injury, it would be the first such injury-free season since early on when he was a Falcon.  I'll wish him well because he's not a bad guy and he plays in a conference and division that will have no impact on the Eagles.

Really I think he's a better match for Geno as back-up than Sanchez would've been.  When he's healthy, Vick is the better QB compared to Sanchez.  When he's not, Geno can go in to get his field time.  More importantly, when Vick is healthy, Geno can take the time to grow and become the QB he's shown he has the capability to be without drowning in the stress of carrying a struggling team as a new QB.  Ultimately, even if Vick doesn't become their franchise solution, they can invest some time in Geno and potentially get their solution that way.


I think Vick could really help Geno become a good quarterback because he certainly has potential but needs a lot of work.  Regardless of what you think about Vick's dog shiat, he is a dam good scrambling quarterback as long as he stays healthy.  I have a feeling he will beat Geno to the starting position this year which I think will just set the Jets back in the long run.  They really need a multi year QB and I don't think Vick can run for several years consistently.

But hey, maybe we'll get lucky and Vick will get injured in the Giants preseason game!
 
2014-03-21 10:33:04 PM  
Someone remind me how NFL contracts work? Are the Jets responsible for any of the amount left of Sanchez's?
 
2014-03-21 10:36:01 PM  
I am shocked that this hasn't devolved into a bunch of ESFJ's screaming for Vick's head on a platter.
 
2014-03-21 10:50:30 PM  

The Bestest: Someone remind me how NFL contracts work? Are the Jets responsible for any of the amount left of Sanchez's?


They don't have to pay him any more money, but his signing bonus counts against their cap space as "dead money"
 
2014-03-21 11:04:59 PM  

Summoner101: Really I think he's a better match for Geno as back-up than Sanchez would've been.  When he's healthy, Vick is the better QB compared to Sanchez.  When he's not, Geno can go in to get his field time.  More importantly, when Vick is healthy, Geno can take the time to grow and become the QB he's shown he has the capability to be without drowning in the stress of carrying a struggling team as a new QB.  Ultimately, even if Vick doesn't become their franchise solution, they can invest some time in Geno and potentially get their solution that way.


I don't know what you are talking about. The Jets signing a proven veteran as a backup is completely ridiculous!  Only the Jets, amirite!?!  What a circus!

uncleacid: The Jets new fight song, "Send In The Clowns"

Aaah, there we go.
 
2014-03-21 11:08:04 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: I am shocked that this hasn't devolved into a bunch of ESFJ's screaming for Vick's head on a platter.


Dude did his time, he's been pretty active in support animal charities since his release (both with his time and money). He made a terrible mistake but he's taken responsibility for his actions and has done quite a lot to make amends for it.
 
2014-03-21 11:12:08 PM  

Lost Thought 00: The Bestest: Someone remind me how NFL contracts work? Are the Jets responsible for any of the amount left of Sanchez's?

They don't have to pay him any more money, but his signing bonus counts against their cap space as "dead money"


According to this, the cap hit will be 4.8 million, it would have been a disaster in 2013 because they guaranteed the 2013 salary when they gave him the extension. Anyway, there's no way they were going to pay him $9 million next year to be a backup.

http://nyjetscap.com/marksanchez.html
 
2014-03-21 11:16:28 PM  
And now a bet...whoever wins the starting job between Vick and Smith gets #7 on their jersey.
 
2014-03-21 11:20:09 PM  

Lost Thought 00: The Bestest: Someone remind me how NFL contracts work? Are the Jets responsible for any of the amount left of Sanchez's?

They don't have to pay him any more money, but his signing bonus counts against their cap space as "dead money"


ah thanks..

so, what happens if for some reason some other team decides they need more Sanchize in their life?
 
2014-03-21 11:32:38 PM  

The Bestest: Lost Thought 00: The Bestest: Someone remind me how NFL contracts work? Are the Jets responsible for any of the amount left of Sanchez's?

They don't have to pay him any more money, but his signing bonus counts against their cap space as "dead money"

ah thanks..

so, what happens if for some reason some other team decides they need more Sanchize in their life?


Nothing, his 2014 Jets salary of $9 million wasn't guaranteed, so the Jets don't owe him any more money. If the money had been guaranteed, usually there are provisions along the lines of the Jets would have to make up the difference between his new contract and the old one, but that often depends on the way the contract is written. Anyway, wouldn't apply here.

Wouldn't surprise me if Belichick brought him for a workout just to troll Rex ha.
 
2014-03-21 11:33:06 PM  
Fark Vick to death with a baseball bat bristling with nails.
 
2014-03-21 11:42:46 PM  
Maybe they can get Testaverde to come back?
 
2014-03-21 11:45:34 PM  

kidakita: Maybe they can get Testaverde to come back?


Namath looks pretty good. For his age.
 
2014-03-21 11:50:29 PM  
Is Rex gonna change his tattoo?

/I have no dog in this fight
 
2014-03-21 11:55:01 PM  

Snapper Carr: Dude did his time, he's been pretty active in support animal charities since his release (both with his time and money). He made a terrible mistake but he's taken responsibility for his actions and has done quite a lot to make amends for it.


He got caught doing what he loved.
 
2014-03-21 11:59:25 PM  

John Buck 41: kidakita: Maybe they can get Testaverde to come back?

Namath looks pretty good. For his age.


100?
 
2014-03-22 12:12:50 AM  

jfivealive: I think Vick could really help Geno become a good quarterback because he certainly has potential but needs a lot of work. Regardless of what you think about Vick's dog shiat, he is a dam good scrambling quarterback as long as he stays healthy.


Whatever else you want to say about Vick, I don't see him being a good mentor.  Not his thing.

jaylectricity: And now a bet...whoever wins the starting job between Vick and Smith gets #7 on their jersey.


It's Geno's number on the team.  If Vick wants it bad enough, and Geno is willing to part with it, they negotiate, but it's between the players.
 
2014-03-22 12:15:40 AM  

TomD9938: Snapper Carr: Dude did his time, he's been pretty active in support animal charities since his release (both with his time and money). He made a terrible mistake but he's taken responsibility for his actions and has done quite a lot to make amends for it.

He got caught doing what he loved.


hmmmm.....and?
 
2014-03-22 12:18:45 AM  

Dr.Fey: jfivealive: I think Vick could really help Geno become a good quarterback because he certainly has potential but needs a lot of work. Regardless of what you think about Vick's dog shiat, he is a dam good scrambling quarterback as long as he stays healthy.

Whatever else you want to say about Vick, I don't see him being a good mentor.  Not his thing.

jaylectricity: And now a bet...whoever wins the starting job between Vick and Smith gets #7 on their jersey.

It's Geno's number on the team.  If Vick wants it bad enough, and Geno is willing to part with it, they negotiate, but it's between the players.


Yeah, that's what I said. Between the players, they should negotiate who gets the number by putting the job on the line.
 
2014-03-22 12:20:18 AM  

johnny_vegas: TomD9938: Snapper Carr: Dude did his time, he's been pretty active in support animal charities since his release (both with his time and money). He made a terrible mistake but he's taken responsibility for his actions and has done quite a lot to make amends for it.

He got caught doing what he loved.


hmmmm.....and?

So, no mistakes were made.  He just got caught pitting dogs against each other for his own amusement.

Great guy, otherwise.

go jets...
 
2014-03-22 12:21:25 AM  

John Buck 41: kidakita: Maybe they can get Testaverde to come back?

Namath looks pretty good. For his age.


Won't he try to kiss the cheerleaders?
 
2014-03-22 12:55:14 AM  
The release of Sanchez is the End of an Error. At least he got to bang Kate Upton.
 
2014-03-22 12:55:29 AM  

jfivealive: I don't think Vick can run for several years consistently.


Vick can't go an entire single year, much less several years.
 
2014-03-22 01:06:40 AM  

count_chimpula: Lost Thought 00: The Bestest: Someone remind me how NFL contracts work? Are the Jets responsible for any of the amount left of Sanchez's?

They don't have to pay him any more money, but his signing bonus counts against their cap space as "dead money"

According to this, the cap hit will be 4.8 million, it would have been a disaster in 2013 because they guaranteed the 2013 salary when they gave him the extension. Anyway, there's no way they were going to pay him $9 million next year to be a backup.

http://nyjetscap.com/marksanchez.html


If I'm reading this right, the Jets saved $3.3 million in cap space by cutting Sanchez and paying Vick $5 million. That's not a bad deal at all considering Vick's familiarity with the offense (Mornhinweg was Vick's OC In Philly) and his similarity to Geno Smith (better match to Smith than Sanchez is). When did the Jets decide to make competent personnel decisions?

/Even though we just  know this will end in tears somehow because it's the Jets
 
2014-03-22 01:57:52 AM  

Snapper Carr: DeathByGeekSquad: I am shocked that this hasn't devolved into a bunch of ESFJ's screaming for Vick's head on a platter.

Dude did his time, he's been pretty active in support animal charities since his release (both with his time and money). He made a terrible mistake but he's taken responsibility for his actions and has done quite a lot to make amends for it.


By all means, go support the guy. I'm not grudging you that at all.

As far as I'm concerned, he could have retired, spent all his time and all his money on animal charities and I still wouldn't forgive him. Thats just me. I understand he paid his debt to society and all that. I wish no harm on him. I just won't forgive or support the guy. I'm not a Jets fan, so, fortunately I don't have to deal with that conflict.
 
2014-03-22 01:58:38 AM  
From a football perspective, it was a smart move.
 
2014-03-22 07:49:14 AM  

Snapper Carr: DeathByGeekSquad: I am shocked that this hasn't devolved into a bunch of ESFJ's screaming for Vick's head on a platter.

Dude did his time, he's been pretty active in support animal charities since his release (both with his time and money). He made a terrible mistake but he's taken responsibility for his actions and has done quite a lot to make amends for it.


And I'm sure it's all by choice and not because his PR guys are making him to try and save his image. Vick doesn't give a rat's behind about animals, their cause, rights, etc. The jets signing is just further punishment for the comes and he belongs there with that circus
 
2014-03-22 08:15:02 AM  
TomD9938: So, no mistakes were made. He just got caught pitting dogs against each other for his own amusement. Great guy, otherwise.

That's not the entire story. A big part about what horrified people about Vick was that he would kill the dogs that wouldn't fight in creative ways. He hung one, he drowned one by tying concrete blocks to it and flinging it into his pool, he threw one off the roof of his three story mansion.....to figure out creative ways to kill animals is messed up. That boy ain't right in the head.

Two running quarterbacks. Better have a backup plan.
 
2014-03-22 08:56:18 AM  

bertor_vidas: When did the Jets decide to make competent personnel decisions?


Picking up Don Maynard off the CFL scrapheap in 1960 worked out okay. Between him and George Sauer the Jets at least knew to get Namath a couple of people to catch the ball. Back then the Jets were great at making something out of players other teams cut.

As for Namath himself, he's been dining out for 45 years on a game the Jets would've lost if not for their defense kicking ass. Randy Beverly should've been MVP of Super Bowl III.

/lawn. off.
 
2014-03-22 09:03:44 AM  
What are the predictions for Sanchez' fate?

Will he be a starter anywhere?  A back-up even?

CFL?

Tebow's Bible bagger?
 
2014-03-22 09:08:47 AM  

Dr.Fey: jfivealive: 

Whatever else you want to say about Vick, I don't see him being a good mentor.  Not his thing.


Nick Foles and the Eagles would disagree with you.  Openly.

That said, I think this is another short-term, flashy move that will do little to make the team better in the long run.  It reminds me of that NFL team that signed Brett Favre after he retired...who was that again?

Oh, yeah.
 
2014-03-22 09:59:20 AM  
The Jets are, were and always will be an amateur organization.
 
2014-03-22 11:04:24 AM  

Gulper Eel: As for Namath himself, he's been dining out for 45 years on a game the Jets would've lost if not for their defense kicking ass.


That's probably true. Having said that, good for him. By any accounts I've read/heard he's a nice guy. (no, the Suzy Kolber incident, though stupid, does not undo that).

And subby, if you were going for the b-f alliteration in the headline you should've split 'buttfumble' into 2 words. Jus' sayin'.
 
2014-03-22 12:07:32 PM  

Obscure Login: I don't know what you are talking about. The Jets signing a proven veteran as a backup is completely ridiculous!  Only the Jets, amirite!?!  What a circus!


I realize I parsed that confusingly, but the intent was that Vick would be the starter allowing Geno to develop as a QB while back-up to Vick.
 
2014-03-22 02:39:23 PM  

John Buck 41: . By any accounts I've read/heard he's a nice guy. (no, the Suzy Kolber incident, though stupid, does not undo that).


shiat, that was the nicest thing that guy ever did. Suzy was flattered. I mean you throw a party for a guy, get him drunk, tell him he's the reason everybody is having a good time and what do you expect to happen? Then everybody gets all "He's got a drinking problem." farking tee-totallers ruin everything.
 
2014-03-22 06:00:55 PM  

Snapper Carr: DeathByGeekSquad: I am shocked that this hasn't devolved into a bunch of ESFJ's screaming for Vick's head on a platter.

Dude did his time, he's been pretty active in support animal charities since his release (both with his time and money). He made a terrible mistake but he's taken responsibility for his actions and has done quite a lot to make amends for it.


Only so he'd be accepted back into the NFL, since that was the only way he was going to make they money to pay off the huge debts his crimes left him.  I'd be more surprised if he DIDN'T get back into the dog-murderin' once he retires than if he did.


/veterinarian
//disgusted that NFL let him back in
///yes, I'd agree Leonard Little and Dante Stallworth should have been life-banned too
 
2014-03-22 06:12:43 PM  

Banacek: John Buck 41: Why the FAIL tag? Is subby suggesting Sanchez is better than Vick? 'Cos that's just laughable (if I gave a shiat)

You question when the FAIL tag is used for the Jets?


In fact, we should have a Jets tag for FAIL
 
2014-03-22 07:48:56 PM  

varmitydog: TomD9938: So, no mistakes were made. He just got caught pitting dogs against each other for his own amusement. Great guy, otherwise.


That's not the entire story. A big part about what horrified people about Vick was that he would kill the dogs that wouldn't fight in creative ways. He hung one, he drowned one by tying concrete blocks to it and flinging it into his pool, he threw one off the roof of his three story mansion.....to figure out creative ways to kill animals is messed up.

I was trying to make a point of how ridiculous the notion that he has some how repented is (simply by writing a few checks).

There was some buzz about him maybe playing for the Vikings.  Glad that didnt happen though, cuzz I would have boycotted the entire season in that event.

/ would have missed it though...
 
2014-03-23 12:00:09 AM  

TomD9938: varmitydog: TomD9938: So, no mistakes were made. He just got caught pitting dogs against each other for his own amusement. Great guy, otherwise.

That's not the entire story. A big part about what horrified people about Vick was that he would kill the dogs that wouldn't fight in creative ways. He hung one, he drowned one by tying concrete blocks to it and flinging it into his pool, he threw one off the roof of his three story mansion.....to figure out creative ways to kill animals is messed up.

I was trying to make a point of how ridiculous the notion that he has some how repented is (simply by writing a few checks).

There was some buzz about him maybe playing for the Vikings.  Glad that didnt happen though, cuzz I would have boycotted the entire season in that event.

/ would have missed it though...


in the meantime there is no problem with your team having people that beat their wives and routinely drive drunk where they have a chance of killing people, vice pets?
On the face of it your values align with those of your team apparently
 
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