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2014-03-22 05:41:58 AM  

Daedalus27: If he continues this into middle school, he is in for a world of hurt.


Sadly for the bully-supporters, the media record as is will suffice for any legal action that may need to come up in the event of retaliation, and the school district is very aware of it. The concern trolls with their crocodile tears will find their sadistic fantasies unfulfilled once again.

We're witnessing the end of an era, the acceptance and encouragement of these twisted little sociopaths and their little sycophants is diminishing and coming to a close. It's becoming less and less acceptable in society, from early education on up through adulthood, to hate people for their harmless pieces of individuality. Even now, the only real place for those worshipping the myth of the bully as social police are finding that they can only speak out anonymously, hiding like the cowards they are on message boards and similar websites. And even there they are routinely called out and marked for their enabling behaviors.
 
2014-03-22 07:27:51 AM  

Boojum2k: Daedalus27: If he continues this into middle school, he is in for a world of hurt.

Sadly for the bully-supporters, the media record as is will suffice for any legal action that may need to come up in the event of retaliation, and the school district is very aware of it. The concern trolls with their crocodile tears will find their sadistic fantasies unfulfilled once again.

We're witnessing the end of an era, the acceptance and encouragement of these twisted little sociopaths and their little sycophants is diminishing and coming to a close. It's becoming less and less acceptable in society, from early education on up through adulthood, to hate people for their harmless pieces of individuality. Even now, the only real place for those worshipping the myth of the bully as social police are finding that they can only speak out anonymously, hiding like the cowards they are on message boards and similar websites. And even there they are routinely called out and marked for their enabling behaviors.


tell the truth. you were rubbing one out while you typed that, weren't you?
 
2014-03-22 08:45:14 AM  

doglover: pxlboy: School and work are not the best places to express yourself.

It's also never acceptable to physically abuse someone based solely on what they're wearing. That's even true in open warfare.

Just because kids will pick on each other doesn't mean you shouldn't punish the ones who act up in a manner that is criminally unacceptable.

The worst part is, it sounds like you need therapy. You were bullied so it's okay for other people to be bullied? That's stinkin' thinkin', sugarcube.


I should have specified; I don't condone physical abuse. I was referring to making fun of someone, not actually beating on some kid 'cause he's different.

Had I know then (middle school) what I know now, I would have kept far less visible.

The bullies should be dealt with, but not making yourself a target is a good policy.

No, the kids should be allowed to be themselves, but it doesn't work that way.
 
2014-03-22 08:46:54 AM  

fluffy2097: pxlboy: School and work are not the best places to express yourself.

Oh, don't dash their hopes about what corporate life is like.


I think I see what you did there >_>

Haven't had my coffee yet
 
2014-03-22 08:49:56 AM  
And yet CA kids cannot wear a shirt with an American flag on it for the same reason?
 
2014-03-22 09:57:14 AM  

Thunderpipes: And yet CA kids cannot wear a shirt with an American flag on it for the same reason?


California kids can wear American Flag T-shirts to school. Some students, at one school, were forbidden to wear specific shirts on a specific day for a specific, pre-planned, hostile purpose. There is no ban on flag shirts in California schools. You aklways lie when you post - stop lying.
 
2014-03-22 10:39:26 AM  

pxlboy: I was referring to making fun of someone, not actually beating on some kid 'cause he's different.


The former causes far more lasting damage than the latter. Bruises only need a week to heal.

Had I know then (middle school) what I know now, I would have kept far less visible.

Case in point. Far, far more lasting.
 
2014-03-22 12:22:07 PM  

MooseUpNorth: pxlboy: I was referring to making fun of someone, not actually beating on some kid 'cause he's different.

The former causes far more lasting damage than the latter. Bruises only need a week to heal.

Had I know then (middle school) what I know now, I would have kept far less visible.

Case in point. Far, far more lasting.


Exactly. My mother pulled me out of public school after the sixth grade because of that nonsense.

Kids at that age are monsters and sometimes it's best to camouflage yourself than to stick out. It's good that bullying is finally getting the scrutiny that it needs, but there will always be bullies at school or even in the workplace.

There's a time and a place for everything and middle/high school is not the place. Those are the years kids discover who they are, but that individuality, despite the best efforts of many, comes at a price.

The cries of victim blaming here make me a little sad. I know what it's like to be that kid everyone picks on. If he was my kid or nephew or some such, I would have tried to talk him out of wearing it to school. It's best not to paint a target on yourself.

/nscsb
 
2014-03-22 12:22:33 PM  

Boojum2k: There's lots of weirdoes in schools, they generally outnumber the bullies. They just aren't violent psychopaths like a lot of the bullies.


Eric Harris, Dylan Cleabold, The VT tech shoter, Adam Lanza, and several other Violently psychopathic weirdos would disagree with you.
 
2014-03-22 01:21:35 PM  

fluffy2097: Eric Harris, Dylan Cleabold, The VT tech shoter, Adam Lanza, and several other Violently psychopathic weirdos would disagree with you.


I'm pretty happy when psychopaths who inflict violence against innocent kids disagree with me.

Thanks!
 
2014-03-22 04:43:08 PM  

Boojum2k: Daedalus27: If he continues this into middle school, he is in for a world of hurt.

Sadly for the bully-supporters, the media record as is will suffice for any legal action that may need to come up in the event of retaliation, and the school district is very aware of it. The concern trolls with their crocodile tears will find their sadistic fantasies unfulfilled once again.

We're witnessing the end of an era, the acceptance and encouragement of these twisted little sociopaths and their little sycophants is diminishing and coming to a close. It's becoming less and less acceptable in society, from early education on up through adulthood, to hate people for their harmless pieces of individuality. Even now, the only real place for those worshipping the myth of the bully as social police are finding that they can only speak out anonymously, hiding like the cowards they are on message boards and similar websites. And even there they are routinely called out and marked for their enabling behaviors.


I don't know what world you are living in, but your take on what is occurring is far removed from reality.  Yes, there is the occasional story exposing abuse, but you think somehow this kid receiving media attention is going to make his life safe and easier going forward?  Why do you think that?  The bullies will somehow care that for a brief moment this kid had some fame?  Schools can only protect him when he is in class and they are made aware of an issue, otherwise what are they supposed to do, put him in a soundproof force field? They can't protect him on social media and in areas outside of school.  Legal action, far from some panacea, can only remedy him after his life has been shattered.  You think a kid shouting "pony boy" or pushing him to the ground is going to receive any kind of compensation?  Maybe a few bucks but far less than the cost of attorney's fees and unless these parents are made of money you can't sue your way to protecting him.

I wish you were correct in that we are seeing a decline in bullying . I think the evidence suggests it is actually increasing as now the harassment and torment can occur 24/7 on social media instead of the old fashion face to face taunting and physical violence. Putting on rose colored glasses and wishing away the problem isn't going to make the situation better.  Only by realizing the difficulty those who want to be overtly different face and taking realistic steps to address the issue can we reduce the violence and hatred that is seen.  Hell, your comments are a little bullying in your dogmatic painting of anyone who has an alternative view or idea on the situation as supporting the bullying is somewhat hurtful.
 
2014-03-22 04:59:12 PM  

Daedalus27: I think the evidence suggests it is actually increasing


Sorry, that's an effect of media saturation, which actually helps expose and curtail the bullying as more light shines upon it. Percentages have grown only as more comes to light, but the trend now is for greater enforcement against the bullies and far greater support for the victims. After all, this story only made news because the school responded in the wrong way initially, and has since been corrected.

There certainly seem to be a lot of people in this thread hoping for bad things to happen to this boy. They are much like the child bullies, cowards at heart except these adult enablers are hiding behind anonymity hoping to spread their encouragement of negative behaviors. Their advice that this boy give up on something that means a lot to him is the exact opposite of what anti-bullying experts state, and they know it, for they are really on the side of the sadistic creeps.

As for your claims of "bullying," in your own case, I suggest you read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
There is no need for a tolerant person to be accepting of bigots and bullies. Only those supporting the sociopaths would even claim such, and it makes their concern so much less noteworthy.
 
2014-03-22 06:34:18 PM  

Boojum2k: Daedalus27: I think the evidence suggests it is actually increasing

Sorry, that's an effect of media saturation, which actually helps expose and curtail the bullying as more light shines upon it. Percentages have grown only as more comes to light, but the trend now is for greater enforcement against the bullies and far greater support for the victims. After all, this story only made news because the school responded in the wrong way initially, and has since been corrected.

There certainly seem to be a lot of people in this thread hoping for bad things to happen to this boy. They are much like the child bullies, cowards at heart except these adult enablers are hiding behind anonymity hoping to spread their encouragement of negative behaviors. Their advice that this boy give up on something that means a lot to him is the exact opposite of what anti-bullying experts state, and they know it, for they are really on the side of the sadistic creeps.

As for your claims of "bullying," in your own case, I suggest you read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
There is no need for a tolerant person to be accepting of bigots and bullies. Only those supporting the sociopaths would even claim such, and it makes their concern so much less noteworthy.


Media saturation certainly raises the exposure of the practice but I don't think it is just increased exposure but an actual increase in actions.  The improved internet access and cell phone proliferation along with social media now allows abuse to occur at a distance and with your identity hidden.  These tools simply were not available in previous decades and although they can be used for outsiders to find support, they are also tools of abuse. Before, it was just the kids in your town who presumably you had contact growing up with that could engage in this behavior.  With society much more mobile and the tools available, there are a larger pool of those able to reach out and hurt someone.  I mean look at this thread, there are people from around the US and world discussing this topic when 20-30 years ago only those in the town may be aware by a newspaper article on the subject or word of mouth.  Some of the posts are constructive, some are antagonistic, some are trolls. Given this development, the likelihood of abuse increases a bit although how much is open to debate.

Who in this thead is hoping this kid gets bullied? And how the hell are you inferring that anyone here is supporting bullying?  Seriously, who here has said they want this kid hurt.  Suggesting that his choices are likely to lead to abuse doesn't mean anyone wishes it. It is the fact that some kids are cruel especially to those perceived as different or weak and in our experience, observation, and judgment the choices he and his parents are making are exposing him to a higher risk than other choices would lead to.  I don't see where you are getting that anyone is tolerating bullying behavior.  The fact is it will take an effort by all involved to avoid the damage we have seen done to countless children due to bulling.

If a person is in a bad neighborhood at night, earbuds with a nice tune buzzing in their ear, with $100 bills hanging out of my pockets, a nice cellphone in their hand, is it really surprising that there is a high potential for them to get robbed?  By pointing out this risk, does it mean I am enabling the robbers and blaming the victim?  If you think this is the case, you have a rather warped viewpoint.  Pointing out risks certainly isn't the same as desiring for or advocating for the robbery to occur or cheering the criminal on and hoping they avoid being prosecuted.  Furthermore, the fact that someone is pointing out risky behavior doesn't mean there isn't the right to engage in this activity, however making people aware of the risk if they don't have the experience (lets say they are a tourist and didn't know it was a bad area or aren't exposed to street crime) can be useful. Everyone has a right to be secure in their belongings and safe from harm and it is illegal to engage in unlawful behavior that violates these norms.  At the same time, most people have and use locks on their doors, many have alarm systems, most are wary of going certain places in their town at night.  Why? Because there is a risk that people violate those norms and engaging in perfectly lawful activities and behavior can still result in harm from others who do not follow these norms.  Pointing this out isn't some empowerment of wrong doers, but an understanding of how society functions for good or ill.
 
2014-03-22 06:43:39 PM  

Daedalus27: Seriously, who here has said they want this kid hurt.


Oh, I'm sure they are all really very concerned.
 
2014-03-22 08:40:41 PM  

Boojum2k: Daedalus27: Seriously, who here has said they want this kid hurt.

Oh, I'm sure they are all really very concerned.


Are you like... the 9 year old from the story? Your jimmies are awful rustled. You've been ranting for several threads now about how we're all sociopaths.
 
2014-03-22 08:57:04 PM  

fluffy2097: You've been ranting for several threads now about how we're all sociopaths.


The only ones I've called out are those supporting the bullies, even when they think their concern-troll posts are the height of discretion. I'm not too sorry when it makes them feel uncomfortable, even when they have to back each other up and attempt to insult me due to their cowardly natures.
 
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