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2014-03-21 04:13:47 PM
nine-year-old boy from wearing his My Little Pony backpack

I'm betting he doesn't get enough attention at home.
 
2014-03-21 04:32:23 PM
So...Pony Thread?

img4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-03-21 04:35:01 PM
Well, that's going to lead to at least 20% more bullying.
 
2014-03-21 04:39:59 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Well, that's going to lead to at least 20% more bullying.


Yeah, just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean it's a grand idea.
 
2014-03-21 05:01:22 PM
Friendship always wins!
 
2014-03-21 05:05:12 PM
Good.
 
2014-03-21 05:06:03 PM
God why is this even a big deal?
 
2014-03-21 05:06:43 PM
Shouldn't have prevented it in the first place.
/not a brony.
//common sense person
 
GBB
2014-03-21 05:07:09 PM
Bullies:
th258.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-21 05:07:38 PM
Just beware to not mock him for his choice of backpack.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-21 05:07:42 PM
He sounds like a little jacksss.
 
2014-03-21 05:08:30 PM
fc07.deviantart.net
 
2014-03-21 05:08:37 PM
static.giantbomb.com
 
2014-03-21 05:08:41 PM
Why is this an issue?
 
2014-03-21 05:08:47 PM

nekom: FirstNationalBastard: Well, that's going to lead to at least 20% more bullying.

Yeah, just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean it's a grand idea.


Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt
 
2014-03-21 05:09:13 PM

corq: So...Pony Thread?

[img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 200x200]


Um, no
 
2014-03-21 05:09:17 PM
He is going to get so much tail with that backpack!
 
2014-03-21 05:10:56 PM

whidbey: God why is this even a big deal?


meat0918: Why is this an issue?


It provides a sense of accomplishment to people and momentarily distracts them from the real problems facing our country, world, and so on.
We're powerless to reverse the corporate takeover of government, but this kid can wear his backpack and that's just as good.
 
2014-03-21 05:10:59 PM

zulius: Shouldn't have prevented it in the first place.
/not a brony.
//common sense person


well, if he doesn't' want to get picked on, he shouldn't make himself a target.  herpa-derpa-doo!  *eyeroll*
 
2014-03-21 05:12:24 PM
What, the "he had it coming" defense didn't work?
 
2014-03-21 05:12:41 PM
Perhaps he needs a rock.

pinkie.ponychan.net
 
2014-03-21 05:14:45 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Well, that's going to lead to at least 20% more bullying.


I think the fact that the incident became as big a news story as it did, will cause him to get bullied way more then he ever would have been by just wearing the backpack.
 
2014-03-21 05:15:09 PM
GanjSmokr:
Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt


No, the crime is always the fault of the perpetrator.  That doesn't mean it isn't a stupid idea.  If I go to a predominantly black neighborhood wearing a racist t-shirt and I get my ass kicked, it's still assault but wouldn't you call me a farking idiot for doing that?
 
2014-03-21 05:15:57 PM
Mess with the horse and you get the bull?
 
2014-03-21 05:16:02 PM
The bag had rarity, twilight, and pinkie pie on it. Kids got bad taste in ponies.
 
2014-03-21 05:16:17 PM

GanjSmokr: nekom: FirstNationalBastard: Well, that's going to lead to at least 20% more bullying.

Yeah, just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean it's a grand idea.

Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt


I don't anyone said it was the kid's fault if that happens but you. In a perfect world everyone could do whatever they wanted without facing consequences even if the consequences aren't justified. But this isn't a perfect world.

/that's why there are bouncers at strip clubs
 
2014-03-21 05:16:49 PM

GanjSmokr: nekom: FirstNationalBastard: Well, that's going to lead to at least 20% more bullying.

Yeah, just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean it's a grand idea.

Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt


after being raped does she go back to the same rapey neighborhood wearing the same rapey skirt?

that would make your comparison more valid.
 
2014-03-21 05:17:29 PM

GanjSmokr: nekom: FirstNationalBastard: Well, that's going to lead to at least 20% more bullying.

Yeah, just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean it's a grand idea.

Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt


I really don't understand people so sociopathic to blame the victim, especially when the victim is a young kid.

Trust me he would still have plenty of opportunity in high school and college before entering the real world to find out just how much utter bastardry exists in the human heart, let him be a nerdy little kid for a few years.
 
2014-03-21 05:18:16 PM

nburghmatt: GanjSmokr: nekom: FirstNationalBastard: Well, that's going to lead to at least 20% more bullying.

Yeah, just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean it's a grand idea.

Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt

after being raped does she go back to the same rapey neighborhood wearing the same rapey skirt?

that would make your comparison more valid.


Those kids were wrong to be hassling him in the first place, you have no valid point.
 
2014-03-21 05:18:34 PM
This kid is nine years old. He didn't buy the backpack; his parents did. This means that when they were shopping and he saw it and asked for it, mommy and daddy could have done the following:

1) Buy the backpack (no explanation needed)
2) Not buy the backpack (again no explanation needed--"Because I said no")

//Whether we like it or not, our kids are going to be picked on.
//Teach your kids how not to bully (or make fun of) other kids (Jokes aren't the same as bullying...)
//Make they play together.
 
2014-03-21 05:19:20 PM
Glenn Beck is a Brony.

happynicetimepeople.com


I now feel officially sick.
 
2014-03-21 05:19:32 PM

nekom: GanjSmokr:
Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt

No, the crime is always the fault of the perpetrator.  That doesn't mean it isn't a stupid idea.  If I go to a predominantly black neighborhood wearing a racist t-shirt and I get my ass kicked, it's still assault but wouldn't you call me a farking idiot for doing that?


img801.imageshack.us


/edited version.
 
2014-03-21 05:20:12 PM

TV's Vinnie: Glenn Beck is a Brony.

[happynicetimepeople.com image 555x405]


I now feel officially sick.


He's even got the hipster goatee and glasses.
 
2014-03-21 05:20:13 PM

nekom: GanjSmokr:
Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt

No, the crime is always the fault of the perpetrator.  That doesn't mean it isn't a stupid idea.  If I go to a predominantly black neighborhood wearing a racist t-shirt and I get my ass kicked, it's still assault but wouldn't you call me a farking idiot for doing that?


How is having a kids' show backpack at all comparable to inciting racial strife? This is a retarded stretch even for Fark, and I've made more than my fair share of retarded stretches of logic on Fark.
 
2014-03-21 05:20:26 PM

blatz514: corq: So...Pony Thread?

[img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 200x200]

Um, no


I'm going with Pony Thread.
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-21 05:22:07 PM
Crotchrocket Slim:
How is having a kids' show backpack at all comparable to inciting racial strife? This is a retarded stretch even for Fark, and I've made more than my fair share of retarded stretches of logic on Fark.

It isn't.  That's not the point.  The point is that even though bullying is wrong and shouldn't exist, in the real world it DOES.  Kids can be absolutely godawful and that's just a reality of life.  It's just a risk mitigation situation.
 
2014-03-21 05:22:15 PM

nekom: If I go to a predominantly black neighborhood wearing a racist t-shirt and I get my ass kicked, it's still assault but wouldn't you call me a farking idiot for doing that?


Wearing a MLP backpack to school is not the same as wearing a racist t-shirt in a black neighborhood.

The point is that the school should prevent bullying by going after the bullies, not by policing what kinds of backpacks are ok for 9 year old boys and girls.
 
2014-03-21 05:22:58 PM

nekom: GanjSmokr:
Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt

No, the crime is always the fault of the perpetrator.  That doesn't mean it isn't a stupid idea.  If I go to a predominantly black neighborhood wearing a racist t-shirt and I get my ass kicked, it's still assault but wouldn't you call me a farking idiot for doing that?


I'm going to do this in all caps because that was the most farking idiotic piece of shiat ball-licking jackassery I have ever read.

THERE IS A BIG farkING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WEARING A SHIRT OR EMBLEM DESIGNED TO OFFEND OR HARASS A MINORITY GROUP AND HAVING A MOTHER farkING PONY BACKPACK.
 
2014-03-21 05:24:54 PM

nekom: Crotchrocket Slim:
How is having a kids' show backpack at all comparable to inciting racial strife? This is a retarded stretch even for Fark, and I've made more than my fair share of retarded stretches of logic on Fark.

It isn't.  That's not the point.  The point is that even though bullying is wrong and shouldn't exist, in the real world it DOES.  Kids can be absolutely godawful and that's just a reality of life.  It's just a risk mitigation situation.


So we should deny girls the right to go to shop class, or guys the right to go to dance class?
 
2014-03-21 05:25:49 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: nekom: GanjSmokr:
Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt

No, the crime is always the fault of the perpetrator.  That doesn't mean it isn't a stupid idea.  If I go to a predominantly black neighborhood wearing a racist t-shirt and I get my ass kicked, it's still assault but wouldn't you call me a farking idiot for doing that?

How is having a kids' show backpack at all comparable to inciting racial strife? This is a retarded stretch even for Fark, and I've made more than my fair share of retarded stretches of logic on Fark.


I'd say both are comparable by advertising an unpopular position in a situation where people are less willing to show restraint in mentally/physically retorting.
 
2014-03-21 05:26:00 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Perhaps he needs a rock.

[pinkie.ponychan.net image 576x324]


Everybody wants a rock
 
2014-03-21 05:26:19 PM

MadMattressMack: GanjSmokr: nekom: FirstNationalBastard: Well, that's going to lead to at least 20% more bullying.

Yeah, just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean it's a grand idea.

Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt

I don't anyone said it was the kid's fault if that happens but you. In a perfect world everyone could do whatever they wanted without facing consequences even if the consequences aren't justified. But this isn't a perfect world.

/that's why there are bouncers at strip clubs


So what you're saying is it's his fault if he gets bullied.

By your reasoning no one should own anything someone else doesn't have. I mean just because you have the right to your Ps4 doesn't mean buying it is a good idea. What if someone tries to steal it.
 
2014-03-21 05:26:25 PM

shamanwest: nekom: GanjSmokr:
Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt

No, the crime is always the fault of the perpetrator.  That doesn't mean it isn't a stupid idea.  If I go to a predominantly black neighborhood wearing a racist t-shirt and I get my ass kicked, it's still assault but wouldn't you call me a farking idiot for doing that?

I'm going to do this in all caps because that was the most farking idiotic piece of shiat ball-licking jackassery I have ever read.

THERE IS A BIG farkING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WEARING A SHIRT OR EMBLEM DESIGNED TO OFFEND OR HARASS A MINORITY GROUP AND HAVING A MOTHER farkING PONY BACKPACK.


Speech is speech, is it not?
 
2014-03-21 05:26:43 PM
Pony thread on the main page?

This will end well.
 
2014-03-21 05:26:59 PM
Whoever tried to ban the backpack should be fired, along with any other faculty who supported it.

Anyone who thinks to solution to bullying is to make the victim change something about themselves doesn't need to be working around children. Period.
 
2014-03-21 05:27:57 PM

nekom: Crotchrocket Slim:
How is having a kids' show backpack at all comparable to inciting racial strife? This is a retarded stretch even for Fark, and I've made more than my fair share of retarded stretches of logic on Fark.

It isn't.  That's not the point.  The point is that even though bullying is wrong and shouldn't exist, in the real world it DOES.  Kids can be absolutely godawful and that's just a reality of life.  It's just a risk mitigation situation.


I still don't see how having this backpack makes him a target, unless there is a group of people whose identity or family has been oppressed by MLP fans.

There is no active antagonism that should result in a kid getting beat up like this- the bullies' parents are the failures here. They should have been taught better values since before they could speak or walk.

And we give the police asstons of taxpayer dollars to clean up those bad areas where women routinely get raped, that they aren't effective is a failure of the criminal justice system as well as for many cultural and economic ones. You're just excusing criminality; it being unavoidable isn't a reason to accept it.
 
2014-03-21 05:28:41 PM

TV's Vinnie: Glenn Beck is a Brony.

[happynicetimepeople.com image 555x405]


I now feel officially sick.


Here's the interview with Grayson Bruce. It was a good interview, and he focused on what was important: the bullying.
And no. Glenn is not a Brony. It admitted that twice in the interview.
 
2014-03-21 05:28:51 PM

TV's Vinnie: Glenn Beck is a Brony.

[happynicetimepeople.com image 555x405]


I now feel officially sick.


I feel like I just did mental gymnastics.  I don't know whether to welcome him into the Herd or violently kick him in the jimmies.

/This is what cognitive dissonance feels like!
//I guess he earns a tiny, wee speck of redemption
///For now
 
2014-03-21 05:29:51 PM

MadMattressMack: I'd say both are comparable by advertising an unpopular position in a situation where people are less willing to show restraint in mentally/physically retorting.


"People who have suffered racial prejudice are as able to control their actions when antagonized as small children" - if I misinterpret you please elaborate where, thanks
 
2014-03-21 05:31:03 PM
Just so everyone's up to speed, My Little Pony gear is the new KKK hood and "She totally wanted it just look at what she was wearing"  skirt.

The  usual Fark derp is multiplying pretty rapidly.  I think we're getting to derp nuclear meltdown territory here.
 
2014-03-21 05:31:14 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Perhaps he needs a rock.

[pinkie.ponychan.net image 576x324]


Glenn Beck has a rock.

img.fark.net

Most kids make their own choices about what they're comfortable bringing to school, but part of being a kid is making mistakes. Mistakes like a 9-year old making a social faux pas are to be expected. Bullying is also wrong, but also in line with the sorts of mistake we expect grade school kids to make. The mistakes made by the school administrators... I was about to say that school administrators should know better than to be victim-blamers, and then I realized I was talking about school administrators here. I suppose that makes their mistakes also understandable, on account of the students - bullies and targets alike - are probably smarter than all the school administrators put together.

Good luck kids. Some of your colleagues are always going to be jerks, and this isn't going to change for the rest of your life, but you shouldn't let it get you down. It's the administrators - those who would prefer to eliminate the appearance of conflict rather than actually resolving the underlying issue - those are the people you've really gotta watch out for. (That's also not going to change for the rest of your life, and you shouldn't let that get you down either.)
 
2014-03-21 05:32:16 PM
Stopping him from wearing it is stupid. But what I think is smart is explaining to the kid that people, especially children, are incredibly nasty. And that he WILL be bullied and picked on because asshole children will object to him wearing the backpack.
 
2014-03-21 05:32:35 PM

real_headhoncho: TV's Vinnie: Glenn Beck is a Brony.

[happynicetimepeople.com image 555x405]


I now feel officially sick.

Here's the interview with Grayson Bruce. It was a good interview, and he focused on what was important: the bullying.
And no. Glenn is not a Brony. It admitted that twice in the interview.


People are confused at usually Beck doesn't do things publicly to make the world a better place unless it benefits him directly, but I'll say he's doing the right thing here. Wish he'd continue that...
 
2014-03-21 05:32:45 PM

ph0rk: shamanwest: nekom: GanjSmokr:
Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt

No, the crime is always the fault of the perpetrator.  That doesn't mean it isn't a stupid idea.  If I go to a predominantly black neighborhood wearing a racist t-shirt and I get my ass kicked, it's still assault but wouldn't you call me a farking idiot for doing that?

I'm going to do this in all caps because that was the most farking idiotic piece of shiat ball-licking jackassery I have ever read.

THERE IS A BIG farkING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WEARING A SHIRT OR EMBLEM DESIGNED TO OFFEND OR HARASS A MINORITY GROUP AND HAVING A MOTHER farkING PONY BACKPACK.

Speech is speech, is it not?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur_(logic)
 
2014-03-21 05:33:38 PM
To me, having special rules for kids regarding issues like bullying os poor preparartion for life - I feel that as much as possible, kids should operate under rules similar to those they wil face and have to function under as adults.
Like real life.
In real life, nobody tells you what backpack you can carry around - and if you pick one others find ridiculous, you can expect to suffer mockery.
On the other hand, in real life, people who verbally harrass co-workers because they don't like their backpacks get fired, and people who beat other people because they don't like their backpacks go to jail.
What we do now is coddle the victim and overprotect them, and exercise absurd lenience toward the bullies, who are rarely held to anything resembling an adult standard of behavior.
It's a dirty little secret, but most of us who have been to school know that the school administrators  use bullies as a second line of enforcement - a way of cracking down on non-conformists who don't fall under their official rules.
 
2014-03-21 05:34:21 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: I still don't see how having this backpack makes him a target


Have you even met any children before? The majority of them are farking assholes. You would seriously be surprised if this kid was NOT a target?
 
2014-03-21 05:35:55 PM

jso2897: To me, having special rules for kids regarding issues like bullying os poor preparartion for life - I feel that as much as possible, kids should operate under rules similar to those they wil face and have to function under as adults.
Like real life.
In real life, nobody tells you what backpack you can carry around - and if you pick one others find ridiculous, you can expect to suffer mockery.
On the other hand, in real life, people who verbally harrass co-workers because they don't like their backpacks get fired, and people who beat other people because they don't like their backpacks go to jail.
What we do now is coddle the victim and overprotect them, and exercise absurd lenience toward the bullies, who are rarely held to anything resembling an adult standard of behavior.
It's a dirty little secret, but most of us who have been to school know that the school administrators  use bullies as a second line of enforcement - a way of cracking down on non-conformists who don't fall under their official rules.


I knew there was a reason I had you favorited.  So much this.
 
2014-03-21 05:36:14 PM

Dragonflew: Crotchrocket Slim: I still don't see how having this backpack makes him a target

Have you even met any children before? The majority of them are farking assholes. You would seriously be surprised if this kid was NOT a target?


I've met a lot of asshole kids with asshole parents and lots of sweetheart kids with decent parents. shiatty parents being unavoidable doesn't mean shiatty parenting is acceptable.
 
2014-03-21 05:36:44 PM

jso2897: To me, having special rules for kids regarding issues like bullying os poor preparartion for life - I feel that as much as possible, kids should operate under rules similar to those they wil face and have to function under as adults.
Like real life.


Yeah, this is total BS. Adults don't tease and bully the way kids do; kids have ZERO empathy because they haven't developed it yet. All being bullied as a kid does for you is make future business for therapists.
 
2014-03-21 05:37:06 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: Dragonflew: Crotchrocket Slim: I still don't see how having this backpack makes him a target

Have you even met any children before? The majority of them are farking assholes. You would seriously be surprised if this kid was NOT a target?

I've met a lot of asshole kids with asshole parents and lots of sweetheart kids with decent parents. shiatty parents being unavoidable doesn't mean shiatty parenting is acceptable.


BTW I do computer tech support at a Childrens' Hospital and routinely hang out with my three nieces and their cousins.
 
2014-03-21 05:37:25 PM
FTFA: "Thousands of people came to Grayson's defence, including pundit Glenn Beck and members of My Little Pony's prominent male fan community, known as Bronies."

I'm sicken to have to agree with Glenn Beck.

/Don't mind the Bronies
//Bronies have an odd hobby/lifestyle, but whatever makes you happy
 
2014-03-21 05:37:55 PM

Pappas: Whoever tried to ban the backpack should be fired, along with any other faculty who supported it.

Anyone who thinks to solution to bullying is to make the victim change something about themselves doesn't need to be working around children. Period.


You couldn't be more wrong. There is nothing wrong with teaching him conformity. Be unique on your own time kid.
 
2014-03-21 05:39:05 PM
The Stealth Hippopotamus:
[img801.imageshack.us image 196x300]


/edited version.


img.fark.net

/edited edited version
 
2014-03-21 05:39:22 PM

meat0918: Why is this an issue?


Because a bunch of pin headed school administrators made it one.
 
2014-03-21 05:39:53 PM
Flab:
The point is that the school should prevent bullying by going after the bullies, not by policing what kinds of backpacks are ok for 9 year old boys and girls.

I agree, and I don't think the school should.  I just think it's a bad idea.
 
2014-03-21 05:39:55 PM

mbillips: jso2897: To me, having special rules for kids regarding issues like bullying os poor preparartion for life - I feel that as much as possible, kids should operate under rules similar to those they wil face and have to function under as adults.
Like real life.

Yeah, this is total BS. Adults don't tease and bully the way kids do; kids have ZERO empathy because they haven't developed it yet. All being bullied as a kid does for you is make future business for therapists.


I don't know, I used to work at an art school, quite a few adults without fully developed senses of empathy (we call them "sociopaths").

BTW most kids do know there is a line in the sand for ragging on a kid for having a dorky backpack vs sending the kid to the hospital.
 
2014-03-21 05:41:35 PM

nekom: GanjSmokr:
Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt

No, the crime is always the fault of the perpetrator.  That doesn't mean it isn't a stupid idea.  If I go to a predominantly black neighborhood wearing a racist t-shirt and I get my ass kicked, it's still assault but wouldn't you call me a farking idiot for doing that?


Yeah, it's exactly like that and nothing like young children in school where maybe setting a good example can teach kids that there's no reason to bully and harass a kid just for wearing a backpack you don't like.
 
2014-03-21 05:42:37 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: nekom: Crotchrocket Slim:
How is having a kids' show backpack at all comparable to inciting racial strife? This is a retarded stretch even for Fark, and I've made more than my fair share of retarded stretches of logic on Fark.

It isn't.  That's not the point.  The point is that even though bullying is wrong and shouldn't exist, in the real world it DOES.  Kids can be absolutely godawful and that's just a reality of life.  It's just a risk mitigation situation.

I still don't see how having this backpack makes him a target, unless there is a group of people whose identity or family has been oppressed by MLP fans.

There is no active antagonism that should result in a kid getting beat up like this- the bullies' parents are the failures here. They should have been taught better values since before they could speak or walk.

And we give the police asstons of taxpayer dollars to clean up those bad areas where women routinely get raped, that they aren't effective is a failure of the criminal justice system as well as for many cultural and economic ones. You're just excusing criminality; it being unavoidable isn't a reason to accept it.


I agree with you, and things like this make me sick. We have taken into our society this idea that if we are targeted for something, that reason = fault. Just because people target you for being black, a woman, a red-head, having an accident, your religion (or lack of it), your orientation/sexual ID, or what you like does not make it your fault that you were targeted. However, segments of our society seem focused on removing anything that might be a trigger, even when that trigger harms no one. As I rather rudely pointed out above, there is a big difference between being an MLP fan (since childhood, thank you) and wearing clothing or accessories that specifically targets groups for discrimination and harassment. It is not the kids fault if he gets bullied. There is no "he shouldn't have an MLP" backpack if he is bullied. It is the fault of the bully, the home situation that spawned that bully, and the school teachers and administrators who do nothing in response but try to pin it on the victim.

And this pinning it on the victim has to stop. If you want to have intelligent arguments about how to protect yourself when you know you are a targeted class or group, that is one thing. THAT is why we have self-defense classes, bouncers in nudie bars, and (sometimes) extra police patrols in some areas. That is not, however, saying that it is the fault of that targeted group if they are still attacked. Addressing a need for preparation does not equal admitting fault. And preparation does not equal stopping your activity when your activity harms no one (see difference between MLP and offensive stuff).
 
2014-03-21 05:42:45 PM
For those interested, the 2014 MLP Census has been released.  Some quick tidbits:

- Males are down to 81% of the fandom, continuing a trend of more female Bronies
- Mean Brony age rose 8 months between 2013 and 2014 to 20.88 years
- Russia is now the #4 country of Brony residence, and US Bronies now make up only 58% of the Herd
- Utah has the most Bronies per capita in the US, Mississippi continues to trail the pack
- Median household income for Brony zip codes was $61,578, more than $10,000 over the national median
- 84% of Bronies identify as exclusively or mainly heterosexual
 
2014-03-21 05:43:35 PM
Hopefully children everywhere learned an important lesson: if you cry enough to the media you will eventually get your way. Grats on being able to take your pony back pack to school kid, I'm sure you'll cherish these memories around junior year.
 
2014-03-21 05:44:12 PM

shamanwest: It is the fault of the bully, the home situation that spawned that bully, and the school teachers and administrators who do nothing in response but try to pin it on the victim.


THIS x Infinity.
 
2014-03-21 05:44:24 PM

Ned Stark: The bag had rarity, twilight, and pinkie pie on it. Kids got bad taste in ponies.


www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-03-21 05:45:04 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: Dragonflew: Crotchrocket Slim: I still don't see how having this backpack makes him a target

Have you even met any children before? The majority of them are farking assholes. You would seriously be surprised if this kid was NOT a target?

I've met a lot of asshole kids with asshole parents and lots of sweetheart kids with decent parents. shiatty parents being unavoidable doesn't mean shiatty parenting is acceptable.


No, shiatty parenting is not acceptable, I never argued that. But it exists. And nasty, evil children exist.

Again, do you really believe that this kid will not be a target if he wears a MLP backpack to school?
 
2014-03-21 05:45:22 PM
img.pandawhale.com
 
2014-03-21 05:46:52 PM

real_headhoncho: blatz514: corq: So...Pony Thread?

[img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 200x200]

Um, no

I'm going with Pony Thread.
[img.fark.net image 850x856]


Second hand ponying has awful consequences on those too young

boingboing.net
31.media.tumblr.com
4.bp.blogspot.com
The school was just thinking in the best interests of the child.
 
2014-03-21 05:47:46 PM

shamanwest: So what you're saying is it's his fault if he gets bullied.

By your reasoning no one should own anything someone else doesn't have. I mean just because you have the right to your Ps4 doesn't mean buying it is a good idea. What if someone tries to steal it.


First, I never said it was his fault. it's not. I distinctly said it wasn't his.

Second, if I leave a PS4 in the backseat of my car at the mall I'd accept some responsibility for my window getting broken and it getting stolen. it's not my fault a person decided to steal it but I did contribute to the result by leaving something valuable in an insecure environment while in an area where it is statistically more likely to be taken. The same goes for if I left it sitting on a seat on a bus.

By your logic we shouldn't have locks on our doors because everyone is ethically sound and the few who aren't will be punished into being upstanding citizens anyway.

Chance favors the prepared mind.

Crotchrocket Slim: MadMattressMack: 
"People who have suffered racial prejudice are as able to control their actions when antagonized as small children" - if I misinterpret you please elaborate where, thanks


No. Children are far, far worse. But people who have suffered racial prejudice and are being antagonized are an example of being antagonized to the point of losing their self control and acting without inhibition.

The motivation is different with children (they don't know better), but the result is the same. I wouldn't have used that as an example, but it does work. I would have used the actions of parents when their child is in danger. If you don't have something in your life you'd lose your mind over and act like fool about then I feel sorry for you.
 
2014-03-21 05:48:09 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: For those interested, the 2014 MLP Census has been released.  Some quick tidbits:

- Males are down to 81% of the fandom, continuing a trend of more female Bronies
- Mean Brony age rose 8 months between 2013 and 2014 to 20.88 years
- Russia is now the #4 country of Brony residence, and US Bronies now make up only 58% of the Herd
- Utah has the most Bronies per capita in the US, Mississippi continues to trail the pack
- Median household income for Brony zip codes was $61,578, more than $10,000 over the national median
- 84% of Bronies identify as exclusively or mainly heterosexual


The herd census is an 87 page report with over 17,000 respondents (pdf:  http://www.herdcensus.com/2014%20STATE%20OF%20THE%20HERD%20REPORT.pdf  )
 
2014-03-21 05:48:17 PM

Dragonflew: Crotchrocket Slim: Dragonflew: Crotchrocket Slim: I still don't see how having this backpack makes him a target

Have you even met any children before? The majority of them are farking assholes. You would seriously be surprised if this kid was NOT a target?

I've met a lot of asshole kids with asshole parents and lots of sweetheart kids with decent parents. shiatty parents being unavoidable doesn't mean shiatty parenting is acceptable.

No, shiatty parenting is not acceptable, I never argued that. But it exists. And nasty, evil children exist.

Again, do you really believe that this kid will not be a target if he wears a MLP backpack to school?


Kids find stupid reasons to target other kids no matter how many of the previous stupid reasons you eliminate, therefore not addressing the bullying itself but beating the individuality out of kids is not the answer. That's my point.
 
2014-03-21 05:48:23 PM

ph0rk: shamanwest: nekom: GanjSmokr:
Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt

No, the crime is always the fault of the perpetrator.  That doesn't mean it isn't a stupid idea.  If I go to a predominantly black neighborhood wearing a racist t-shirt and I get my ass kicked, it's still assault but wouldn't you call me a farking idiot for doing that?

I'm going to do this in all caps because that was the most farking idiotic piece of shiat ball-licking jackassery I have ever read.

THERE IS A BIG farkING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WEARING A SHIRT OR EMBLEM DESIGNED TO OFFEND OR HARASS A MINORITY GROUP AND HAVING A MOTHER farkING PONY BACKPACK.

Speech is speech, is it not?


Protected classes, how do they work?
 
2014-03-21 05:49:13 PM
I need to actually knuckle-down and watch the show one of these days.

/I have an excuse
//My kid is 2
///She farking loves the show
 
2014-03-21 05:49:58 PM
Truly, this boy is screwed. First of all..the unfortunate name of "grayson" with the obvious changes that young kids will use to troll this boy. Second, yes, the admins were assholes, but...they were right. A young boy wearing a "my little pony" backpack is in for an ass kicking.
 
2014-03-21 05:50:05 PM
Are there ANY sensible parents these days? yes bullying is a scourge we should battle. At the same time part of parental responsibility is teaching your kid how NOT to become a victim. Would I have let my kid wear that back pack to school? Not on your life! It is the SAME  as sending the kid to school with a  "KICK ME!" sign taped to his back! it may not be right but it IS a fact! The world sucks and is full of a holes, learning how to recognize and avoid them is something ALL parents should instill in their kids at the earliest possible age.
 
2014-03-21 05:50:21 PM

baronbloodbath: TV's Vinnie: Glenn Beck is a Brony.

[happynicetimepeople.com image 555x405]


I now feel officially sick.

I feel like I just did mental gymnastics.  I don't know whether to welcome him into the Herd or violently kick him in the jimmies.

/This is what cognitive dissonance feels like!
//I guess he earns a tiny, wee speck of redemption
///For now


Glenn is a showman out to make a dollar where he can. Single twentysomething males (I.E. Bronies) have lots of disposable income. This kid is young enough that him liking ponies wont weird out Beck's 55+ core demographic, but sticking up for him will still net a little of the bring audience.

Its all business.

/conspiracy mode over.
 
2014-03-21 05:51:09 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: I really don't understand people so sociopathic to blame the victim, especially when the victim is a young kid.


There's a difference between blaming the victim and saying that if you know Y will likely happen if you do X, it may not be a horrible idea to not do X if you don't like Y, regardless of Y being fair or deserved.
 
2014-03-21 05:51:44 PM

Starshines: nekom: GanjSmokr:
Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt

No, the crime is always the fault of the perpetrator.  That doesn't mean it isn't a stupid idea.  If I go to a predominantly black neighborhood wearing a racist t-shirt and I get my ass kicked, it's still assault but wouldn't you call me a farking idiot for doing that?

Yeah, it's exactly like that and nothing like young children in school where maybe setting a good example can teach kids that there's no reason to bully and harass a kid just for wearing a backpack you don't like.


Yes. Just tell all the kids to be nice and not be a bully. That will fix everything.
 
2014-03-21 05:52:16 PM

Joe USer: ph0rk: shamanwest: nekom: GanjSmokr:
Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt

No, the crime is always the fault of the perpetrator.  That doesn't mean it isn't a stupid idea.  If I go to a predominantly black neighborhood wearing a racist t-shirt and I get my ass kicked, it's still assault but wouldn't you call me a farking idiot for doing that?

I'm going to do this in all caps because that was the most farking idiotic piece of shiat ball-licking jackassery I have ever read.

THERE IS A BIG farkING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WEARING A SHIRT OR EMBLEM DESIGNED TO OFFEND OR HARASS A MINORITY GROUP AND HAVING A MOTHER farkING PONY BACKPACK.

Speech is speech, is it not?

Protected classes, how do they work?


And the rest of my post gets cut off....figures.

Pretend there was more information here about harassment, the civil rights act, some limits but not a blanket, forget it, I'm not re-typing it.
 
2014-03-21 05:53:02 PM

MadMattressMack: No. Children are far, far worse. But people who have suffered racial prejudice and are being antagonized are an example of being antagonized to the point of losing their self control and acting without inhibition.

The motivation is different with children (they don't know better), but the result is the same. I wouldn't have used that as an example, but it does work. I would have used the actions of parents when their child is in danger. If you don't have something in your life you'd lose your mind over and act like fool about then I feel sorry for you.


I think a comment I made to someone else might come into play here:

Crotchrocket Slim: most kids do know there is a line in the sand for ragging on a kid for having a dorky backpack vs sending the kid to the hospital.


Sending a kid to the hospital isn't normal kids teasing kids which a lot of the utterly psycho people in this thread are arguing. This is bullying that is pretty much beyond the usual pale here. This is farked up sheet that no one deserves.
 
2014-03-21 05:53:23 PM

Rhino_man: I need to actually knuckle-down and watch the show one of these days.

/I have an excuse
//My kid is 2
///She farking loves the show


It's actually not a bad show.
/my daughter is 7 and loves it too
 
2014-03-21 05:53:24 PM
Hows S4 been? Im behind, i usually wait and watch shows after every season. Season finale is on April 19th according to my massive file of TV shows i have to watch...


Ill probably pick up a six pack of cider and marathon it on a day off.
 
2014-03-21 05:54:48 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: Crotchrocket Slim: I really don't understand people so sociopathic to blame the victim, especially when the victim is a young kid.

There's a difference between blaming the victim and saying that if you know Y will likely happen if you do X, it may not be a horrible idea to not do X if you don't like Y, regardless of Y being fair or deserved.


So... kids can think ahead of time like adults can? Notice how a lot of posters in this thread want to alter the bronie's actions and not the bullies'. This is blaming the victim here for being a victim.
 
2014-03-21 05:56:41 PM

zulius: Shouldn't have prevented it in the first place.
/not a brony.
//common sense person


Yeah, I agree; in the last thread I even defended the school *asking* him not to wear it, but he should be *allowed* to (assuming everyone else gets to wear whatever backpack they want, of course).

nekom:Yeah, just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean it's a grand idea.

Yeah, some people have heard the phrase "blaming the victim" and think that it applies any time someone is encouraged to take any kind of measures to avoid or manipulate jackasses or make their jackassery more difficult or mitigate their damage, but that is not at all true.The kid is not *consenting* to being bullied bywearing his backpack. But it might be useful to him to skip it, for much the same reasons that I (sometimes) choose not to wear Your Rival Team clothing into the wrong bar.

... Might HAVE BEEN useful, rather: At this point he really might as well go for it, and maybe heunderstands that. I think trying to get him to leave it at home NOW is probably just a useless distraction.

/I still say the school should make this backpack mandatory for anyone who bullies him
 
2014-03-21 05:57:02 PM

Dragonflew: Crotchrocket Slim: Dragonflew: Crotchrocket Slim: I still don't see how having this backpack makes him a target

Have you even met any children before? The majority of them are farking assholes. You would seriously be surprised if this kid was NOT a target?

I've met a lot of asshole kids with asshole parents and lots of sweetheart kids with decent parents. shiatty parents being unavoidable doesn't mean shiatty parenting is acceptable.

No, shiatty parenting is not acceptable, I never argued that. But it exists. And nasty, evil children exist.

Again, do you really believe that this kid will not be a target if he wears a MLP backpack to school?


Even the kid doesn't seem to think that, his quote in the click through article was "they took it too far" not "they bullied me", and gave some examples like throwing punches. Perhaps I'm reading too much into one sentence but it looks like he expected and fond acceptable some level of razzing.
 
2014-03-21 05:58:31 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Perhaps he needs a rock.

[pinkie.ponychan.net image 576x324]


DAMN you guys move fast.
 
2014-03-21 06:01:04 PM

Cyno01: Hows S4 been? Im behind, i usually wait and watch shows after every season. Season finale is on April 19th according to my massive file of TV shows i have to watch...


Ill probably pick up a six pack of cider and marathon it on a day off.


Very good overall, though some of the episodes have been a bit flatter than others.  BUT, their have been some absolute gems too - like the Weird Al episode.  :D
 
2014-03-21 06:02:11 PM
img.fark.net

Peace through Ponies!
 
2014-03-21 06:02:33 PM
I was an incredibly dorky kid. I was ragged on and bullied for all twelve years of my schooling experience. When i received my diploma my class mates booed me! Some of the razing I deserved most of it  was  simply picking on the brainy odd kid. Even though school was hell to the point where i seriously considered suicide I made it a point to try and not be a victim as much as i could. My life was hellish enough to not add to it by wearing the "wrong" clothes or having the  "wrong" accessories. Conformity is an EXCELLENT defense plan! Camouflage WORKS!

  These parents are just making life harder for their kid in the  future. It IS that simple!
 
2014-03-21 06:03:40 PM

Cyno01: Hows S4 been? Im behind, i usually wait and watch shows after every season. Season finale is on April 19th according to my massive file of TV shows i have to watch...


Ill probably pick up a six pack of cider and marathon it on a day off.


First half was great, ending with a Weird Al appearance. Second half slowed down a bit, included possibly the worst episode of the series, but has rebounded for the final episodes.
 
2014-03-21 06:03:50 PM

K3rmy: Second hand ponying has awful consequences on those too young

The school was just thinking in the best interests of the child.


Geeze. I hope this doesn't awaken anything in me.
 
2014-03-21 06:04:32 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: MadMattressMack: 
I think a comment I made to someone else might come into play here:

Crotchrocket Slim: most kids do know there is a line in the sand for ragging on a kid for having a dorky backpack vs sending the kid to the hospital.

Sending a kid to the hospital isn't normal kids teasing kids which a lot of the utterly psycho people in this thread are arguing. This is bullying that is pretty much beyond the usual pale here. This is farked up sheet that no one deserves.


Let me reread the article. Nope. He wasn't in the hospital. He was banned from school. And I said the school was wrong. Maybe you're confusing threads? I'm talking about the actions of the school that banned him from wearing a back pack, not defending the actions of idiots who beat up people. I would never do that nor would I accept that as a solution to almost any situation. Just as I don't accept bullying. But not liking it and it being wrong doesn't mean it won't happen.

Also, beating a kid up to the point of hospitalization isn't bullying by any means. That's assault.
 
2014-03-21 06:04:41 PM
Now we have a generation or two raised as precious little snowflakes and they're carrying right along. Maybe it'll die out one day. Just doesn't seem like a good Survival Trait to pass along. Just because you cry about other people or kids "Bullying" doesn't make it magically go away. When you're older you get to think more logically, kids don't and proper parents should help foster that. "You know Jimmy, if you wear that MLP backpack, you might get Teased a little!" (Christ someone's gonna kick his ass!) "But No, Mom, I wanna wear it!" "OK, Sweetie, whatever you want!" What else can I say?
 
2014-03-21 06:05:34 PM

Cyno01: Hows S4 been? Im behind, i usually wait and watch shows after every season. Season finale is on April 19th according to my massive file of TV shows i have to watch...


Ill probably pick up a six pack of cider and marathon it on a day off.


I still haven't even finished season 3, I really should get on that.
 
2014-03-21 06:06:23 PM

Allen262: Peace through Ponies!


Go read some of the conversion bureau stories. The celebration of genocide and general misanthropy of the authors towards humanity in general is enough to make you want to drink. Ignore the fact they would be happy to sacrifice their individuality in real life - not just a fan fiction but an actual fantasy insert/projection work.

There's a reason Chattoyance is one of the most hated members in the Brony fandom.
 
2014-03-21 06:06:34 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: Crotchrocket Slim: I really don't understand people so sociopathic to blame the victim, especially when the victim is a young kid.

There's a difference between blaming the victim and saying that if you know Y will likely happen if you do X, it may not be a horrible idea to not do X if you don't like Y, regardless of Y being fair or deserved.


AKA - "Negotiate with terrorists"
 
2014-03-21 06:07:26 PM
I think the kid should get some neck tattoos. That would show everyone that he is tough.
 
2014-03-21 06:07:28 PM

Delawheredad: I was an incredibly dorky kid. I was ragged on and bullied for all twelve years of my schooling experience. When i received my diploma my class mates booed me! Some of the razing I deserved most of it  was  simply picking on the brainy odd kid. Even though school was hell to the point where i seriously considered suicide I made it a point to try and not be a victim as much as i could. My life was hellish enough to not add to it by wearing the "wrong" clothes or having the  "wrong" accessories. Conformity is an EXCELLENT defense plan! Camouflage WORKS!

  These parents are just making life harder for their kid in the  future. It IS that simple!


Sounds like you never picked up any social skills if people were that terrible to you all the way through high school on top of the dumb things you didn't deserve to be picked on for.
/was one of the brainy kids too
//learned to be myself and just put my best foot forward
///never hid that I was adding to my collection of TNG figures, though these days I wish someone other than Playmates had made them
 
2014-03-21 06:08:44 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: So... kids can think ahead of time like adults can?


Adults are involved here, and it sounds like that, however misguided their attempts are, they are at least trying to make sure the kid isn't getting hurt.

Crotchrocket Slim: Notice how a lot of posters in this thread want to alter the bronie's actions and not the bullies'


If that's actually what they are saying, that's wrong. However, I've seen a lot of comments (not only in this thread, but in general) that actually don't say the victim should change what they are doing, just that until the problem is resolved and they can continue unharassed, temporarily changing wouldn't be the worst thing they could do.

If I had to walk down a street every day, and every day some asshat punched me in the head for wearing hat I don't like, either not wearing the hat or not walking the street until the cops arrest the asshat is going to save me several literal and physical headaches. Is it right that that's what it takes, even as a temporary solution? Not in the slightest. However, recognizing that the world we live in doesn't care even a little bit about our concepts of fairness can go a long way toward making your life a little easier. Baby steps, is what I'm saying.
 
2014-03-21 06:08:51 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: Noticeably F.A.T.: Crotchrocket Slim: I really don't understand people so sociopathic to blame the victim, especially when the victim is a young kid.

There's a difference between blaming the victim and saying that if you know Y will likely happen if you do X, it may not be a horrible idea to not do X if you don't like Y, regardless of Y being fair or deserved.

So... kids can think ahead of time like adults can? Notice how a lot of posters in this thread want to alter the bronie's actions and not the bullies'. This is blaming the victim here for being a victim.


He needs to learn that choices have repercussions. Sometimes being different leads to being mocked. Toughen up you crybaby
 
2014-03-21 06:08:57 PM

MadMattressMack: Crotchrocket Slim: MadMattressMack: 
I think a comment I made to someone else might come into play here:

Crotchrocket Slim: most kids do know there is a line in the sand for ragging on a kid for having a dorky backpack vs sending the kid to the hospital.

Sending a kid to the hospital isn't normal kids teasing kids which a lot of the utterly psycho people in this thread are arguing. This is bullying that is pretty much beyond the usual pale here. This is farked up sheet that no one deserves.

Let me reread the article. Nope. He wasn't in the hospital. He was banned from school. And I said the school was wrong. Maybe you're confusing threads? I'm talking about the actions of the school that banned him from wearing a back pack, not defending the actions of idiots who beat up people. I would never do that nor would I accept that as a solution to almost any situation. Just as I don't accept bullying. But not liking it and it being wrong doesn't mean it won't happen.

Also, beating a kid up to the point of hospitalization isn't bullying by any means. That's assault.


I might be confusing stories, this foolishness has gotten out of control. Or the media sucks at reporting it. Probably both.
 
2014-03-21 06:10:01 PM

hardinparamedic: Allen262: Peace through Ponies!

Go read some of the conversion bureau stories. The celebration of genocide and general misanthropy of the authors towards humanity in general is enough to make you want to drink. Ignore the fact they would be happy to sacrifice their individuality in real life - not just a fan fiction but an actual fantasy insert/projection work.

There's a reason Chattoyance is one of the most hated members in the Brony fandom.


i457.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-21 06:11:03 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: Crotchrocket Slim: Noticeably F.A.T.: Crotchrocket Slim: I really don't understand people so sociopathic to blame the victim, especially when the victim is a young kid.

There's a difference between blaming the victim and saying that if you know Y will likely happen if you do X, it may not be a horrible idea to not do X if you don't like Y, regardless of Y being fair or deserved.

So... kids can think ahead of time like adults can? Notice how a lot of posters in this thread want to alter the bronie's actions and not the bullies'. This is blaming the victim here for being a victim.

He needs to learn that choices have repercussions. Sometimes being different leads to being mocked. Toughen up you crybaby


Seems to me that the only negative repercussions were directed at the victim here, Captain Empty Pants (look I can flame too big deal)
 
2014-03-21 06:12:20 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Cyno01: Hows S4 been? Im behind, i usually wait and watch shows after every season. Season finale is on April 19th according to my massive file of TV shows i have to watch...

Ill probably pick up a six pack of cider and marathon it on a day off.


Very good overall, though some of the episodes have been a bit flatter than others.  BUT, their have been some absolute gems too - like the Weird Al episode.  :D



FirstNationalBastard: First half was great, ending with a Weird Al appearance. Second half slowed down a bit, included possibly the worst episode of the series, but has rebounded for the final episodes.


gifrific.com
 
2014-03-21 06:12:51 PM

hardinparamedic: Allen262: Peace through Ponies!

Go read some of the conversion bureau stories. The celebration of genocide and general misanthropy of the authors towards humanity in general is enough to make you want to drink. Ignore the fact they would be happy to sacrifice their individuality in real life - not just a fan fiction but an actual fantasy insert/projection work.

There's a reason Chattoyance is one of the most hated members in the Brony fandom.


And if you really want to lose faith in humanity, find the TCB fic group/forum and read all the infighting and derp they fling at each other.
 
2014-03-21 06:13:00 PM

Jekylman: AKA - "Negotiate with terrorists"


Sometimes a terrorist has more power over you than you are able to deal with at that time.
 
2014-03-21 06:13:56 PM
Poor kid.
 
2014-03-21 06:14:05 PM

hardinparamedic: Allen262: Peace through Ponies!

Go read some of the conversion bureau stories. The celebration of genocide and general misanthropy of the authors towards humanity in general is enough to make you want to drink. Ignore the fact they would be happy to sacrifice their individuality in real life - not just a fan fiction but an actual fantasy insert/projection work.

There's a reason Chattoyance is one of the most hated members in the Brony fandom.


??  I'm missing the reference here, lol.  :)
 
2014-03-21 06:14:21 PM

Allen262: [img.fark.net image 830x888]

Peace through Ponies!


Is that a Brotherhood of NOD pony?
 
2014-03-21 06:14:35 PM
I'm not a big fan of MLP, I'm more of a Bob's Burgers kinda guy... but wtf. If you can't even see someone with a MLP backpack/lunchbox/whatever without feeling compelled to hurt them or bully them, you need serious mental help. If your kids are at a point where they do shiat like that and harass the weak, you're failing as a parent, and you need to fricking talk to your kids now. In the real world, outside of school, you punch someone because you don't like their backpack, or you see a dude wearing a skirt, you're gonna go to farking jail. If you don't teach your kids that now, then they end up in jail. Aside from that, while this shiat makes the 9-11 year olds feel bad, by the time you get to high school, there's a very valuable lesson to teach your kids "Never fight a poof, they've been fighting their whole life, and you haven't."

As for the dickbags saying conformity is great and camouflage works, you farkers are the reason organizations like thetrevorproject.org are necessary. Teaching kids to lie, cover up, and be ashamed of who they are is profoundly farked up parenting. You have one farking important job, and that's to tell them that you love them no matter what they are, be they bronies, gay kids, nerds, or whatever. The second you convince them that the best course of action for them is to hide shiat, you're teaching them to hide it from you, and you've pretty much just given up on anything like parenting.
 
2014-03-21 06:14:36 PM

meat0918: hardinparamedic: Allen262: Peace through Ponies!

Go read some of the conversion bureau stories. The celebration of genocide and general misanthropy of the authors towards humanity in general is enough to make you want to drink. Ignore the fact they would be happy to sacrifice their individuality in real life - not just a fan fiction but an actual fantasy insert/projection work.

There's a reason Chattoyance is one of the most hated members in the Brony fandom.

[i457.photobucket.com image 552x360]


Yeah, the TVTrope entry on the series. It was so misanthropic that it inspired a number of people to write an almost thirty chapter reboot of it where humanity realizes what's going on and shows why humans are bastards.
 
2014-03-21 06:15:04 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: Sometimes being different leads to being mocked.


Sometimes it does, true. That doesn't make it right, and the bully needs to find out that his actions also have repercussions.
 
2014-03-21 06:15:56 PM
Crocrocket Slim

  i grew up in rural Pennsylvania. it was a hick town with virtually no minorities and virtually EVER white citizen was a racist redneck. I was teased in part because my grandmother who lived in the  same town)and Father h had thick Brooklyn accents. This town was so screwed up that when some local POISONED A BLIND TEACHER'S GUIDE DOG the rednecks thought it was utterly hilarious! We only lived there because of my father's job as soon as we graduated my entire family fled the town. NO ONE from my family lives there today. We were smart people in a land of morons and the brought out a LOT of resentment amongst the locals. I was mocked for, among other thing, READING BOOKS IN STUDY HALL! There is a reason that PA outside of Philly and Pittsburgh is know as as Pensyltucky!
 
2014-03-21 06:20:40 PM

baronbloodbath: TV's Vinnie: Glenn Beck is a Brony.

[happynicetimepeople.com image 555x405]


I now feel officially sick.

I feel like I just did mental gymnastics.  I don't know whether to welcome him into the Herd or violently kick him in the jimmies.

/This is what cognitive dissonance feels like!
//I guess he earns a tiny, wee speck of redemption
///For now


He's not technically a brony per se; he read TFA and had a segment about it on his show, basically coming to the same conclusion: if the kid wants to wear the backpack, what right does the school have to tell you that you must be the same as everyone else?

I got bullied for wearing uncool pants. Should the school have required me to shop exclusively at Abercrombie&Fitch? Should I have been suspended until I bought some $1,000.00 Nikes?
 
2014-03-21 06:20:42 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: He needs to learn that choices have repercussions. Sometimes being different leads to being mocked. Toughen up you crybaby


Oh, it's you.

Why is it that every post you make re-enforces the idea that you are a terrible human being? I mean, really. You're blaming a 9 year old child for not going along with the status quo, and then celebrating the fact that he's outright being punished because of the asinine actions of a bully and the shiatty parents and school system who think it'll "build his character".

 And given the way you talk, I'm less inclined to think you were the bully you like to portray yourself as, and more the passive-aggressive, whiny little pussy who found avoiding conflict and deflection/projection was a much more comfortable way to deal with life.
 
2014-03-21 06:21:49 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Cyno01: Hows S4 been? Im behind, i usually wait and watch shows after every season. Season finale is on April 19th according to my massive file of TV shows i have to watch...


Ill probably pick up a six pack of cider and marathon it on a day off.

First half was great, ending with a Weird Al appearance. Second half slowed down a bit, included possibly the worst episode of the series, but has rebounded for the final episodes.


Worse than Magic Duel or Bats? How is this possible?
 
2014-03-21 06:22:20 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: Mid_mo_mad_man: Crotchrocket Slim: Noticeably F.A.T.: Crotchrocket Slim: I really don't understand people so sociopathic to blame the victim, especially when the victim is a young kid.

There's a difference between blaming the victim and saying that if you know Y will likely happen if you do X, it may not be a horrible idea to not do X if you don't like Y, regardless of Y being fair or deserved.

So... kids can think ahead of time like adults can? Notice how a lot of posters in this thread want to alter the bronie's actions and not the bullies'. This is blaming the victim here for being a victim.

He needs to learn that choices have repercussions. Sometimes being different leads to being mocked. Toughen up you crybaby

Seems to me that the only negative repercussions were directed at the victim here, Captain Empty Pants (look I can flame too big deal)


That's the point I was making.He choose to have a MLP. If he's teased because of it it's on him
 
2014-03-21 06:24:09 PM

Delawheredad: Are there ANY sensible parents these days? yes bullying is a scourge we should battle. At the same time part of parental responsibility is teaching your kid how NOT to become a victim. Would I have let my kid wear that back pack to school? Not on your life! It is the SAME  as sending the kid to school with a  "KICK ME!" sign taped to his back! it may not be right but it IS a fact! The world sucks and is full of a holes, learning how to recognize and avoid them is something ALL parents should instill in their kids at the earliest possible age.


Bingo!  Someone actually gets it.

I have three kids, and I realize part of my responsibility as a parent is to try to help my kids NOT be targets.
 
2014-03-21 06:24:53 PM

kitsuneymg: FirstNationalBastard: Cyno01: Hows S4 been? Im behind, i usually wait and watch shows after every season. Season finale is on April 19th according to my massive file of TV shows i have to watch...


Ill probably pick up a six pack of cider and marathon it on a day off.

First half was great, ending with a Weird Al appearance. Second half slowed down a bit, included possibly the worst episode of the series, but has rebounded for the final episodes.

Worse than Magic Duel or Bats? How is this possible?


While we all know that the show is there to sell toys, normally the writers can overcome that and make a decent show out of things.

But It's Not Easy Being Breezies was the first episode of the series where the only thing missing was a crawl across the bottom of the screen saying "Breezie toys and plushes available soon at a toy store near you. BUY ONE TODAY!"
 
2014-03-21 06:25:04 PM

Delawheredad: Conformity is an EXCELLENT defense plan!


Submit. Surrender.

macaulay.cuny.edu
 
2014-03-21 06:26:35 PM

FirstNationalBastard: kitsuneymg: FirstNationalBastard: Cyno01: Hows S4 been? Im behind, i usually wait and watch shows after every season. Season finale is on April 19th according to my massive file of TV shows i have to watch...


Ill probably pick up a six pack of cider and marathon it on a day off.

First half was great, ending with a Weird Al appearance. Second half slowed down a bit, included possibly the worst episode of the series, but has rebounded for the final episodes.

Worse than Magic Duel or Bats? How is this possible?

While we all know that the show is there to sell toys, normally the writers can overcome that and make a decent show out of things.

But It's Not Easy Being Breezies was the first episode of the series where the only thing missing was a crawl across the bottom of the screen saying "Breezie toys and plushes available soon at a toy store near you. BUY ONE TODAY!"


Heh.
And I thought the train was bad.

I'll probably end up watching it when it's on netflix. My kids occasionally pick MLP to marathon.
 
2014-03-21 06:26:41 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: Dragonflew: Crotchrocket Slim: Dragonflew: Crotchrocket Slim: I still don't see how having this backpack makes him a target

Have you even met any children before? The majority of them are farking assholes. You would seriously be surprised if this kid was NOT a target?

I've met a lot of asshole kids with asshole parents and lots of sweetheart kids with decent parents. shiatty parents being unavoidable doesn't mean shiatty parenting is acceptable.

No, shiatty parenting is not acceptable, I never argued that. But it exists. And nasty, evil children exist.

Again, do you really believe that this kid will not be a target if he wears a MLP backpack to school?

Kids find stupid reasons to target other kids no matter how many of the previous stupid reasons you eliminate, therefore not addressing the bullying itself but beating the individuality out of kids is not the answer. That's my point.


Do you have kids? I'm going to take a wild guess and say no.  Yes, it is ultimately the fault of the bully, but this kids parents are doing him no favors by letting him wear that stupid farking backpack.
 
2014-03-21 06:27:13 PM

Lapdance: Now we have a generation or two raised as precious little snowflakes and they're carrying right along. Maybe it'll die out one day. Just doesn't seem like a good Survival Trait to pass along. Just because you cry about other people or kids "Bullying" doesn't make it magically go away. When you're older you get to think more logically, kids don't and proper parents should help foster that. "You know Jimmy, if you wear that MLP backpack, you might get Teased a little!" (Christ someone's gonna kick his ass!) "But No, Mom, I wanna wear it!" "OK, Sweetie, whatever you want!" What else can I say


Some people lack basic Parenting 101 skills:

1) Teach your kids right from wrong (this means what's okay/nice to say and what's wrong/bad to say)
2) Teach your kids proper manners (this means you have to teach them the consequences of not doing the right thing/what they are told to do) The consequences don't have to be violent in anyway.
3) Lastly, there are basic things to do if you think your kid is being bullied: Talk to the other parent and (if necessary) talk to the school. When I was kid and I had a problem with another kid, the school didn't get involved because our mothers talked and told us what how the problem was going to be solved!

///Gen X--I don't have Wooden Spoon syndrome
 
2014-03-21 06:27:35 PM

nekom: GanjSmokr:
Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt

No, the crime is always the fault of the perpetrator.  That doesn't mean it isn't a stupid idea.  If I go to a predominantly black neighborhood wearing a racist t-shirt and I get my ass kicked, it's still assault but wouldn't you call me a farking idiot for doing that?


You do understand that you would be the bully in this scenario, right?
 
2014-03-21 06:27:53 PM

Big_Doofus: Yes, it is ultimately the fault of the bully, but this kids parents are doing him no favors by letting him wear that stupid farking backpack.


Just like if only you hadn't let your daughter go out wearing a skirt, she'd have never been raped.So really, you helped her tease her attacker.

Boys will be boys, right? Parents need to take more responsibility to prevent their children from being victims, after all.
 
2014-03-21 06:28:55 PM

Jekylman: Noticeably F.A.T.: Crotchrocket Slim: I really don't understand people so sociopathic to blame the victim, especially when the victim is a young kid.

There's a difference between blaming the victim and saying that if you know Y will likely happen if you do X, it may not be a horrible idea to not do X if you don't like Y, regardless of Y being fair or deserved.

AKA - "Negotiate with terrorists"


Worked when Kevin Spacey did it with Samuel L. Jackson.
 
2014-03-21 06:30:53 PM

hardinparamedic: Allen262: Peace through Ponies!

Go read some of the conversion bureau stories. The celebration of genocide and general misanthropy of the authors towards humanity in general is enough to make you want to drink. Ignore the fact they would be happy to sacrifice their individuality in real life - not just a fan fiction but an actual fantasy insert/projection work.

There's a reason Chattoyance is one of the most hated members in the Brony fandom.


No. The Most Hated Brony is the ORIGINAL Brony, known as Christian Weston Chandler.

img.fark.net
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p23-_rWJ2Ag  (<-- Not Safe For Sanity)
 
2014-03-21 06:31:39 PM

TV's Vinnie: hardinparamedic: Allen262: Peace through Ponies!

Go read some of the conversion bureau stories. The celebration of genocide and general misanthropy of the authors towards humanity in general is enough to make you want to drink. Ignore the fact they would be happy to sacrifice their individuality in real life - not just a fan fiction but an actual fantasy insert/projection work.

There's a reason Chattoyance is one of the most hated members in the Brony fandom.

No. The Most Hated Brony is the ORIGINAL Brony, known as Christian Weston Chandler.

[img.fark.net image 372x352]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p23-_rWJ2Ag  (<-- Not Safe For Sanity)


Well, yeah. The only person more hated than ChrisChan is Hitler. Or Bevets.
 
2014-03-21 06:31:46 PM

mbillips: jso2897: To me, having special rules for kids regarding issues like bullying os poor preparartion for life - I feel that as much as possible, kids should operate under rules similar to those they wil face and have to function under as adults.
Like real life.

Yeah, this is total BS. Adults don't tease and bully the way kids do; kids have ZERO empathy because they haven't developed it yet. All being bullied as a kid does for you is make future business for therapists.


You apparently read about that far into my post and then stopped reading. You couldn't have missed my point further if you had tried.
 
2014-03-21 06:32:04 PM

hardinparamedic: Allen262: Peace through Ponies!

Go read some of the conversion bureau stories. The celebration of genocide and general misanthropy of the authors towards humanity in general is enough to make you want to drink. Ignore the fact they would be happy to sacrifice their individuality in real life - not just a fan fiction but an actual fantasy insert/projection work.

There's a reason Chattoyance is one of the most hated members in the Brony fandom.


You are quickly becoming the biggest douchebag on Fark, and that is really saying something.
 
2014-03-21 06:32:51 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: Crotchrocket Slim: Mid_mo_mad_man: Crotchrocket Slim: Noticeably F.A.T.: Crotchrocket Slim: I really don't understand people so sociopathic to blame the victim, especially when the victim is a young kid.

There's a difference between blaming the victim and saying that if you know Y will likely happen if you do X, it may not be a horrible idea to not do X if you don't like Y, regardless of Y being fair or deserved.

So... kids can think ahead of time like adults can? Notice how a lot of posters in this thread want to alter the bronie's actions and not the bullies'. This is blaming the victim here for being a victim.

He needs to learn that choices have repercussions. Sometimes being different leads to being mocked. Toughen up you crybaby

Seems to me that the only negative repercussions were directed at the victim here, Captain Empty Pants (look I can flame too big deal)

That's the point I was making.He choose to have a MLP. If he's teased because of it it's on him


No I think it's kind of on the people that are doing the teasing, but hey. Clearly you don't believe people should take responsibility for their actions.
 
2014-03-21 06:33:53 PM

nekom: Crotchrocket Slim:
How is having a kids' show backpack at all comparable to inciting racial strife? This is a retarded stretch even for Fark, and I've made more than my fair share of retarded stretches of logic on Fark.

It isn't.  That's not the point.  The point is that even though bullying is wrong and shouldn't exist, in the real world it DOES.  Kids can be absolutely godawful and that's just a reality of life.  It's just a risk mitigation situation.


Bullies will  always find a reason to bully. There is no mitigation strategy.

Strike that: the real mitigation strategy is to expel the farking bullies.
 
2014-03-21 06:35:02 PM

TV's Vinnie: hardinparamedic: Allen262: Peace through Ponies!

Go read some of the conversion bureau stories. The celebration of genocide and general misanthropy of the authors towards humanity in general is enough to make you want to drink. Ignore the fact they would be happy to sacrifice their individuality in real life - not just a fan fiction but an actual fantasy insert/projection work.

There's a reason Chattoyance is one of the most hated members in the Brony fandom.

No. The Most Hated Brony is the ORIGINAL Brony, known as Christian Weston Chandler.

[img.fark.net image 372x352]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p23-_rWJ2Ag  (<-- Not Safe For Sanity)


i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-21 06:35:17 PM

hardinparamedic: Mid_mo_mad_man: He needs to learn that choices have repercussions. Sometimes being different leads to being mocked. Toughen up you crybaby

Oh, it's you.

Why is it that every post you make re-enforces the idea that you are a terrible human being? I mean, really. You're blaming a 9 year old child for not going along with the status quo, and then celebrating the fact that he's outright being punished because of the asinine actions of a bully and the shiatty parents and school system who think it'll "build his character".

 And given the way you talk, I'm less inclined to think you were the bully you like to portray yourself as, and more the passive-aggressive, whiny little pussy who found avoiding conflict and deflection/projection was a much more comfortable way to deal with life.


I'm blaming him and more so his parents. What good has him rocking the boat got him? Not much.
 
2014-03-21 06:35:42 PM

Some 'Splainin' To Do: nekom: Crotchrocket Slim:
How is having a kids' show backpack at all comparable to inciting racial strife? This is a retarded stretch even for Fark, and I've made more than my fair share of retarded stretches of logic on Fark.

It isn't.  That's not the point.  The point is that even though bullying is wrong and shouldn't exist, in the real world it DOES.  Kids can be absolutely godawful and that's just a reality of life.  It's just a risk mitigation situation.

Bullies will  always find a reason to bully. There is no mitigation strategy.

Strike that: the real mitigation strategy is to expel the farking bullies.


Punish the parents and the kids will straighten out quickly.
 
2014-03-21 06:35:53 PM

TV's Vinnie: hardinparamedic: Allen262: Peace through Ponies!

Go read some of the conversion bureau stories. The celebration of genocide and general misanthropy of the authors towards humanity in general is enough to make you want to drink. Ignore the fact they would be happy to sacrifice their individuality in real life - not just a fan fiction but an actual fantasy insert/projection work.

There's a reason Chattoyance is one of the most hated members in the Brony fandom.

No. The Most Hated Brony is the ORIGINAL Brony, known as Christian Weston Chandler.

[img.fark.net image 372x352]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p23-_rWJ2Ag  (<-- Not Safe For Sanity)


Why...WHY did you post that? I don't like you anymore.
 
2014-03-21 06:37:43 PM

Rhino_man: I need to actually knuckle-down and watch the show one of these days.

/I have an excuse
//My kid is 2
///She farking loves the show


I have some episode suggestions, if you're genuinely interested.

/Seven cousins under the age of 5 at current
//I was babysitting so much when I was younger
///Grew up with Gen 1 right alongside my sister, and yes, it's an awesome show.
 
2014-03-21 06:37:50 PM
Look you cretins we are NOT blaming the victim! No it is NOT a woman's fault for being raped but IF SHE CAN AVOID IT she SHOULD NOT park her car in some unlit section of the parking lot miles away from the mall. She is just taking sensible precautions by parking nearer to the  mall and in a well lit area. Carrying pepper spray and/or a weapon would also be good ideas. Are all men rapists? Not at all. Do rapists like to lurk in dark parking lots? ABSOLUTELY!

  Should the kid have the RIGHT to wear any back pack he wants? ABSOLUTELY!

Does that mean his choices are FREE of consequence? ABSOLUTELY NOT!

We tell our kids to not play with fire we also need to teach them how NOT to feed the trolls and A holes of the world!
 
2014-03-21 06:38:05 PM

Some 'Splainin' To Do: nekom: Crotchrocket Slim:
How is having a kids' show backpack at all comparable to inciting racial strife? This is a retarded stretch even for Fark, and I've made more than my fair share of retarded stretches of logic on Fark.

It isn't.  That's not the point.  The point is that even though bullying is wrong and shouldn't exist, in the real world it DOES.  Kids can be absolutely godawful and that's just a reality of life.  It's just a risk mitigation situation.

Bullies will  always find a reason to bully. There is no mitigation strategy.

Strike that: the real mitigation strategy is to expel the farking bullies.


Expel the bullies? That's a little extreme
 
2014-03-21 06:38:09 PM

Sim Tree: what right does the school have to tell you that you must be the same as everyone else?


The proud nail gets hammered down....

Or pushed into the sticker bushes.

Grayson Bruce?  WTF were the parents thinking?  How could they name their boy thus and think there was an ever-loving hope in hell he wouldn't get bullied?  They should just embroider "Kick Me" on the backs of all of his shirts.
 
2014-03-21 06:45:47 PM

firemanbuck: Sim Tree: what right does the school have to tell you that you must be the same as everyone else?

The proud nail gets hammered down....

Or pushed into the sticker bushes.

Grayson Bruce?  WTF were the parents thinking?  How could they name their boy thus and think there was an ever-loving hope in hell he wouldn't get bullied?  They should just embroider "Kick Me" on the backs of all of his shirts.


Robin and Batman, Dick Grayson and Bruce Wayne.  Not a bad name, but you shouldn't put Robin first ever.
 
2014-03-21 06:46:54 PM
HansoSparxx:
No, the crime is always the fault of the perpetrator.  That doesn't mean it isn't a stupid idea.  If I go to a predominantly black neighborhood wearing a racist t-shirt and I get my ass kicked, it's still assault but wouldn't you call me a farking idiot for doing that?

You do understand that you would be the bully in this scenario, right?


Hmm.. Fair point.
 
2014-03-21 06:49:11 PM
The terrorist have won. LOL
 
2014-03-21 06:50:54 PM
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Quit taking it out on the bullied kids, assholes.
 
2014-03-21 06:51:12 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: Expel the bullies? That's a little extreme


As I've suggested before:
1st strike: Detention, mandatory parental meeting. If parents seem shady or otherwise likely to have caused the bullying behavior, proceed directly to CPS.
2nd strike: Suspension, mandatory meeting with parents as above. Explain 3rd strike is buh-bye.
3rd strike: Expulsion.

If bully engages in physical violence with anyone, 2nd step should automatically include a referral to juvenile authorities and CPS. If the bully cannot be corrected, as so many claim, then the appropriate places for the bully are either juvenile detention or a mental health facility.

Also, all records on the bullies specific actions are not protected by privacy as they involve another child. Make it clear to bully's parents that the records can and will be forwarded to the victims parents for civil or criminal legal proceedings.
 
2014-03-21 06:52:10 PM

nburghmatt: GanjSmokr: nekom: FirstNationalBastard: Well, that's going to lead to at least 20% more bullying.

Yeah, just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean it's a grand idea.

Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt

after being raped does she go back to the same rapey neighborhood wearing the same rapey skirt?

that would make your comparison more valid.


Wow, what a nasty little troll this one is.
 
2014-03-21 06:54:40 PM
Different:
img.fark.net
Different:
img.fark.net
Different:
img.fark.net
Different:
img.fark.net
Different:
img.fark.net

More than 3 Million people in the US work in fast food, so this is normal:
img.fark.net

When you tell your kids to be "normal" instead of outstanding or exceptional, this is the future you set them up with. All this "proud nail gets hammered flat" is utter bullshiat that the lower nails tell themselves to rationalize why they aren't doing better, it is an excuse and a poor rationalization, not a way of thought that leads to successful adulthood.
 
2014-03-21 06:57:12 PM
The real hero here is Glenn Beck.
 
2014-03-21 06:57:44 PM

Old Man Winter: The real hero here is Glenn Beck.


Stopped clock rule.
 
2014-03-21 06:58:31 PM

K3rmy: real_headhoncho: blatz514: corq: So...Pony Thread?

[img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 200x200]

Um, no

I'm going with Pony Thread.
[img.fark.net image 850x856]

Second hand ponying has awful consequences on those too young

[boingboing.net image 825x550]
[31.media.tumblr.com image 367x550]
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 580x813]
The school was just thinking in the best interests of the child.


Thank you, I had been looking for these (to, uh...  to terrorize pony threads with, honest!  Why...  why's everyone looking at me like that?)
 
2014-03-21 06:59:52 PM

hardinparamedic: So are you defending an author who defends and justifies Genocide because he doesn't like humanity?


I'm pretty sure Fark is 70% misanthropes by body weight.

/Some humans suck
//And they want everyone to believe everybody is like that so they don't feel so alone in their suckiness
 
2014-03-21 07:00:20 PM

firefly212: Different:

Different:

Different:

Different:

Different:


More than 3 Million people in the US work in fast food, so this is normal:


When you tell your kids to be "normal" instead of outstanding or exceptional, this is the future you set them up with. All this "proud nail gets hammered flat" is utter bullshiat that the lower nails tell themselves to rationalize why they aren't doing better, it is an excuse and a poor rationalization, not a way of thought that leads to successful adulthood.


Teaching him to be different is not going to make him get ahead in life. Quite frankly the best way to deal with this would be uniforms. Everybody looking the same with no variety alliwed. Your there to learn not to be special.
 
2014-03-21 07:01:05 PM
Did someone say Pony Play?

i106.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-21 07:11:44 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: nekom: Crotchrocket Slim:
How is having a kids' show backpack at all comparable to inciting racial strife? This is a retarded stretch even for Fark, and I've made more than my fair share of retarded stretches of logic on Fark.

It isn't.  That's not the point.  The point is that even though bullying is wrong and shouldn't exist, in the real world it DOES.  Kids can be absolutely godawful and that's just a reality of life.  It's just a risk mitigation situation.

I still don't see how having this backpack makes him a target, unless there is a group of people whose identity or family has been oppressed by MLP fans.


derpicdn.net
Check your privilege, ableist scum.
 
2014-03-21 07:15:15 PM

shamanwest: nekom: GanjSmokr:
Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt

No, the crime is always the fault of the perpetrator.  That doesn't mean it isn't a stupid idea.  If I go to a predominantly black neighborhood wearing a racist t-shirt and I get my ass kicked, it's still assault but wouldn't you call me a farking idiot for doing that?

I'm going to do this in all caps because that was the most farking idiotic piece of shiat ball-licking jackassery I have ever read.

THERE IS A BIG farkING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WEARING A SHIRT OR EMBLEM DESIGNED TO OFFEND OR HARASS A MINORITY GROUP AND HAVING A MOTHER farkING PONY BACKPACK.


images.sodahead.com
 
2014-03-21 07:16:03 PM
The school is idiotic for blaming the victim. The parents are idiotic for making the kid a victim.,
 
2014-03-21 07:18:00 PM
I came expecting a thread littered with adults attempting to justify the physical abuse of an elementary school child over liking a certain cartoon. I was not disappointed.

I'm glad the school got their heads out of their rear ends on the matter. Hopefully the media attention will keep the parents of the bullies more apt to keep their kids under control.
 
2014-03-21 07:18:16 PM

jso2897: To me, having special rules for kids regarding issues like bullying os poor preparartion for life - I feel that as much as possible, kids should operate under rules similar to those they wil face and have to function under as adults.
Like real life.
In real life, nobody tells you what backpack you can carry around - and if you pick one others find ridiculous, you can expect to suffer mockery.
On the other hand, in real life, people who verbally harrass co-workers because they don't like their backpacks get fired, and people who beat other people because they don't like their backpacks go to jail.
What we do now is coddle the victim and overprotect them, and exercise absurd lenience toward the bullies, who are rarely held to anything resembling an adult standard of behavior.
It's a dirty little secret, but most of us who have been to school know that the school administrators  use bullies as a second line of enforcement - a way of cracking down on non-conformists who don't fall under their official rules.


So.  What were saying here is give the kids a gun and have him "stand his ground?"
 
2014-03-21 07:18:36 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: firefly212: Different:

Different:

Different:

Different:

Different:


More than 3 Million people in the US work in fast food, so this is normal:


When you tell your kids to be "normal" instead of outstanding or exceptional, this is the future you set them up with. All this "proud nail gets hammered flat" is utter bullshiat that the lower nails tell themselves to rationalize why they aren't doing better, it is an excuse and a poor rationalization, not a way of thought that leads to successful adulthood.

Teaching him to be different is not going to make him get ahead in life. Quite frankly the best way to deal with this would be uniforms. Everybody looking the same with no variety alliwed. Your there to learn not to be special.


Yay, no variety allowed! Seriously, you've confused beating kids down with helping them to succeed. If your idea of success is attaining the average, and nothing different... then you just go out and be the best burger-flipper you can be.  Some people weren't meant to fit in, and the world would be a much worse place if their parents and society had successfully beaten them into conformity.

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2014-03-21 07:18:52 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: Pappas: Whoever tried to ban the backpack should be fired, along with any other faculty who supported it.

Anyone who thinks to solution to bullying is to make the victim change something about themselves doesn't need to be working around children. Period.

You couldn't be more wrong. There is nothing wrong with teaching him conformity. Be unique on your own time kid.


How Chairman Mao of you!
 
2014-03-21 07:20:07 PM

jso2897: To me, having special rules for kids regarding issues like bullying os poor preparartion for life - I feel that as much as possible, kids should operate under rules similar to those they wil face and have to function under as adults.
Like real life.


Exactly. Not being allowed to carry your MLP backpack is pretty similar to the office that enforces a shirt/tie/slacks dress code.  Even my naked Bettie Page tie was off-limits.  Not a perfect analog, to be sure, but best to teach the child that under some circumstances, you're not permitted to create a distraction.  Parochial schools are a better on that count.

In real life, nobody tells you what backpack you can carry around

Nope.  But they can make ya wear some boring-ass shiat.  And possibly even a paper hat.

 - and if you pick one others find ridiculous, you can expect to suffer mockery.

Or in some cases, give you a very wide berth.

On the other hand, in real life, people who verbally harrass co-workers because they don't like their backpacks get fired,

Er, no.

 and people who beat other people because they don't like their backpacks go to jail.

Okay, can't much deny that.

What we do now is coddle the victim and overprotect them, and exercise absurd lenience toward the bullies, who are rarely held to anything resembling an adult standard of behavior.

There's the bit that puzzles the snot outta me.  But...

It's a dirty little secret, but most of us who have been to school know that the school administrators  use bullies as a second line of enforcement - a way of cracking down on non-conformists who don't fall under their official rules.

Normally I'd say your tin-foil hat needs another layer, but this would explain some nuisance I had in high school.  Without going into a full-blown CSB, it's at least mildly amazing that one can get a week's detention for slugging it out with the class druggie/discipline problem but earn a full 3 day suspension for similar tussle with the football team's star receiver - who was allowed to play football that week, where I was not allowed to march with the band  under the auspices of my being "more mature" and "should know better than to start fights."

In any case, I don't think it's a school administration's place to arbitrarily ban personal decor, unless they go whole-hog and create an actual dress code, or enforce school uniforms or the like.  Cherry-picking out one kid's backpack is just bullying at a different level.  Either make a regulation backpack available to all so that everyone has the same damn thing or STFU about it.

But I will say this, all rules for "personal expression" aside - the dumbass kids that wear their pants hanging halfway down to their knees should be sent home to fetch their parents and a pair of pants that actually fit so they can change their pants and have their parents smacked upside the head for letting the kid have them in the first place.

/Onions.  On my belt.  Deal with it.
 
2014-03-21 07:20:56 PM

Strolpol: I came expecting a thread littered with adults attempting to justify the physical abuse of an elementary school child over liking a certain cartoon. I was not disappointed.


I may have undersold the amount of misanthropy on Fark. There certainly are a lot of bully-fellators in here, along with the usual crowd of idiot trolls.
 
2014-03-21 07:21:53 PM
Well...can't say I was expecting this amount of vitriol in a My Little Pony thread!

/If the kid had a gun, nobody would have bullied him.
 
2014-03-21 07:22:10 PM
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2014-03-21 07:27:10 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: Crotchrocket Slim: Mid_mo_mad_man: Crotchrocket Slim: Noticeably F.A.T.: Crotchrocket Slim: I really don't understand people so sociopathic to blame the victim, especially when the victim is a young kid.

There's a difference between blaming the victim and saying that if you know Y will likely happen if you do X, it may not be a horrible idea to not do X if you don't like Y, regardless of Y being fair or deserved.

So... kids can think ahead of time like adults can? Notice how a lot of posters in this thread want to alter the bronie's actions and not the bullies'. This is blaming the victim here for being a victim.

He needs to learn that choices have repercussions. Sometimes being different leads to being mocked. Toughen up you crybaby

Seems to me that the only negative repercussions were directed at the victim here, Captain Empty Pants (look I can flame too big deal)

That's the point I was making.He choose to have a MLP. If he's teased because of it it's on him


Treat it like any other situation.  Suspend the bullies for bullying. If they keep it up, expel them for their poor behavior.
 
2014-03-21 07:27:11 PM

shtychkn: shamanwest: nekom: GanjSmokr:
Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt

No, the crime is always the fault of the perpetrator.  That doesn't mean it isn't a stupid idea.  If I go to a predominantly black neighborhood wearing a racist t-shirt and I get my ass kicked, it's still assault but wouldn't you call me a farking idiot for doing that?

I'm going to do this in all caps because that was the most farking idiotic piece of shiat ball-licking jackassery I have ever read.

THERE IS A BIG farkING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WEARING A SHIRT OR EMBLEM DESIGNED TO OFFEND OR HARASS A MINORITY GROUP AND HAVING A MOTHER farkING PONY BACKPACK.

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2014-03-21 07:28:06 PM

real_headhoncho: TV's Vinnie: Glenn Beck is a Brony.

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I now feel officially sick.

Here's the interview with Grayson Bruce. It was a good interview, and he focused on what was important: the bullying.
And no. Glenn is not a Brony. It admitted that twice in the interview.


Thank Celestia.

/though even being a brony could not redeem Beck
 
2014-03-21 07:28:54 PM
Hopefully with this they'll give him a wider berth:fc08.deviantart.net
 
2014-03-21 07:30:11 PM

Delawheredad: Look you cretins we are NOT blaming the victim! No it is NOT a woman's fault for being raped but IF SHE CAN AVOID IT she SHOULD NOT park her car in some unlit section of the parking lot miles away from the mall. She is just taking sensible precautions by parking nearer to the  mall and in a well lit area. Carrying pepper spray and/or a weapon would also be good ideas. Are all men rapists? Not at all. Do rapists like to lurk in dark parking lots? ABSOLUTELY!

  Should the kid have the RIGHT to wear any back pack he wants? ABSOLUTELY!

Does that mean his choices are FREE of consequence? ABSOLUTELY NOT!

We tell our kids to not play with fire we also need to teach them how NOT to feed the trolls and A holes of the world!


Are the bullies free from consequence?  No.

Let it play out like any other situation.  Suspend the bullies for bullying.
 
2014-03-21 07:31:31 PM

jso2897: To me, having special rules for kids regarding issues like bullying os poor preparartion for life - I feel that as much as possible, kids should operate under rules similar to those they wil face and have to function under as adults.
Like real life.
In real life, nobody tells you what backpack you can carry around - and if you pick one others find ridiculous, you can expect to suffer mockery.
On the other hand, in real life, people who verbally harrass co-workers because they don't like their backpacks get fired, and people who beat other people because they don't like their backpacks go to jail.
What we do now is coddle the victim and overprotect them, and exercise absurd lenience toward the bullies, who are rarely held to anything resembling an adult standard of behavior.
It's a dirty little secret, but most of us who have been to school know that the school administrators  use bullies as a second line of enforcement - a way of cracking down on non-conformists who don't fall under their official rules.


Yes, because children are just little adults who have already completed all the appropriate stages of emotional development. There is absolutely no reason for them to be introduced to complex social situations in stages. Throw them right into the wolves, only the strong deserve to live.
 
2014-03-21 07:31:40 PM

Big_Doofus: .  How about if I drop my nude daughter off


img.4plebs.org
 
2014-03-21 07:32:47 PM
i25.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-21 07:38:28 PM

Apatheist: Well...can't say I was expecting this amount of vitriol in a My Little Pony thread!

/If the kid had a gun, nobody would have bullied him.


Never been in a Pony-related thread before?

This is positively civil compared to most of them.
 
2014-03-21 07:40:56 PM
Personally, I don't know why they let kids watch the show...

i25.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-21 07:42:24 PM
I was severely bullied for 6 years in school. That time for me was about one order of magnitude less horrible than Dawn Wiener's life in "Welcome to the Dollhouse".

Kids are assholes and the biggest assholes are assholes because their parents are big assholes too. I still remember staying late after school, 7th grade, for some extracurricular thing and one of my bullies came in with her mom, pointed me out, and the mom burst out laughing at me.

Not really sure what to do about it, but let the kid wear the backpack he wants. It's just My Little Pony for fark's sake. We're starting to live in a society where people don't have to be all masculine or all feminine, and it's the bullies that are going to ultimately have problems if they can't tolerate people coloring outside the lines.
 
2014-03-21 07:42:48 PM

Delawheredad: Crocrocket Slim

  i grew up in rural Pennsylvania. it was a hick town with virtually no minorities and virtually EVER white citizen was a racist redneck. I was teased in part because my grandmother who lived in the  same town)and Father h had thick Brooklyn accents. This town was so screwed up that when some local POISONED A BLIND TEACHER'S GUIDE DOG the rednecks thought it was utterly hilarious! We only lived there because of my father's job as soon as we graduated my entire family fled the town. NO ONE from my family lives there today. We were smart people in a land of morons and the brought out a LOT of resentment amongst the locals. I was mocked for, among other thing, READING BOOKS IN STUDY HALL! There is a reason that PA outside of Philly and Pittsburgh is know as as Pensyltucky!


You should be happy you got out and find some way to move beyond the bitterness then. I had a similar experience, save for the pet murder (I was from farm country, that sort of dickery was directed at people's livestock which they were economically dependent on). And sad to say, you learned the wrong lessons in childhood frankly.
 
2014-03-21 07:43:25 PM

Egalitarian: We're starting to live in a society where people don't have to be all masculine or all feminine, and it's the bullies that are going to ultimately have problems if they can't tolerate people coloring outside the lines.


So much this.
 
2014-03-21 07:45:17 PM

doglover: Personally, I don't know why they let kids watch the show...

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Indeed, especially since Pound Puppies has John DiMaggio, Betty White, and Rene Auberjonois as cast members.
 
2014-03-21 07:47:33 PM

shtychkn: jso2897: To me, having special rules for kids regarding issues like bullying os poor preparartion for life - I feel that as much as possible, kids should operate under rules similar to those they wil face and have to function under as adults.
Like real life.
In real life, nobody tells you what backpack you can carry around - and if you pick one others find ridiculous, you can expect to suffer mockery.
On the other hand, in real life, people who verbally harrass co-workers because they don't like their backpacks get fired, and people who beat other people because they don't like their backpacks go to jail.
What we do now is coddle the victim and overprotect them, and exercise absurd lenience toward the bullies, who are rarely held to anything resembling an adult standard of behavior.
It's a dirty little secret, but most of us who have been to school know that the school administrators  use bullies as a second line of enforcement - a way of cracking down on non-conformists who don't fall under their official rules.

So.  What were saying here is give the kids a gun and have him "stand his ground?"


i18.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-21 07:49:49 PM

Big_Doofus: Delawheredad: Are there ANY sensible parents these days? yes bullying is a scourge we should battle. At the same time part of parental responsibility is teaching your kid how NOT to become a victim. Would I have let my kid wear that back pack to school? Not on your life! It is the SAME  as sending the kid to school with a  "KICK ME!" sign taped to his back! it may not be right but it IS a fact! The world sucks and is full of a holes, learning how to recognize and avoid them is something ALL parents should instill in their kids at the earliest possible age.

Bingo!  Someone actually gets it.

I have three kids, and I realize part of my responsibility as a parent is to try to help my kids NOT be targetspursue any of their interests if kids bigger than they don't approve.

 
2014-03-21 07:52:42 PM

FirstNationalBastard: doglover: Personally, I don't know why they let kids watch the show...

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Indeed, especially since Pound Puppies has John DiMaggio, Betty White, and Rene Auberjonois as cast members.


That's another show I'm surprised they let kids watch.

i3.kym-cdn.com

No, Niblet. No one wants your secret butt fun.
 
2014-03-21 08:10:10 PM
Yeah, while they can certainly  recommend that femme boy doesn't wear the backpack, short of forbidding picture backpacks altogether they can't  forbid it.
 
2014-03-21 08:11:35 PM

corq: So...Pony Thread?

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No!

*steals corq's lunchbox and runs away*
 
2014-03-21 08:11:42 PM

doglover: FirstNationalBastard: doglover: Personally, I don't know why they let kids watch the show...

[i25.photobucket.com image 451x800]

Indeed, especially since Pound Puppies has John DiMaggio, Betty White, and Rene Auberjonois as cast members.

That's another show I'm surprised they let kids watch.

[i3.kym-cdn.com image 495x287]

No, Niblet. No one wants your secret butt fun.


fc03.deviantart.net
 
2014-03-21 08:13:45 PM

FirstNationalBastard: doglover: FirstNationalBastard: doglover: Personally, I don't know why they let kids watch the show...

[i25.photobucket.com image 451x800]

Indeed, especially since Pound Puppies has John DiMaggio, Betty White, and Rene Auberjonois as cast members.

That's another show I'm surprised they let kids watch.

[i3.kym-cdn.com image 495x287]

No, Niblet. No one wants your secret butt fun.

[fc03.deviantart.net image 850x637]


Not for long...

img2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-03-21 08:13:45 PM
Let the my little pony backpack in.  It isn't something dangerous like an American flag shirt on the fifth of May...

Seriously though, this isn't going to end well.  I am not saying there should be any consequence for displaying what you like, but this is going to attract attention both positive and negative whether you like it or not.  Right now the kid is in elementary school where supervision is high and the bullying behavior tends to be lighter.  Soon, he will be in middle school where you have multiple teachers and time between classes where all sorts of bad things happen.  Empowerment is all well and good, but not everyone shares this particular viewpoint and encountering those who use the difference to cause psychological and physical harm isn't uncommon in school.  Teachers, parents, administrators, and law enforcement should do better to tackle this issue to create a safe environment, but relying on this to occur can set the child up for future damage by people who are engaging in wrongdoing.

Back in my younger days I was bullied for being a nerd growing up especially in middle school.  This bullying was both verbal and physical.  I tried to keep a low profile but that doesn't always work. I had a sprained ankle that was stomped by bullies (thankfully no further damage other than increased swelling and pain that kept me out for a week) and of course it couldn't be proven who did what when and nothing but a verbal warning by the school administration and no police involvement (boys being boys). Self-defense worked a bit better especially when I had a lock in the backpack to up my hitting power and caused the bullies to mostly move on to other targets.  I suffered penalties for fighting back due to zero tolerance but it was a price I had to pay as turning the other cheek only resulted in getting hit or spat on both sides. Eventually it subsided after I consistently resisted and I transferred to a different schools and the trouble didn't follow me. So I am not unfamiliar with bullying and the hardships it causes.

This bullying behavior was entirely wrong and shouldn't have occurred. There should have serious consequences for the bullies and they should have been charged with criminal assault on at least the occasion where they stomped my already injured foot.  The behavior didn't have consequences and this sadly isn't uncommon.  This poor kid is being set up to be treated horribly.  Maybe he learns to adapt and gets some protection, but he may not handle it and suffer horribly.  The fact is that anyone with an understanding of how cruel schools and kids can be and how this backpack is like a bullying bullseye doesn't make us insensitive or somehow enabling bullying by trying to protect him a little by arguing against his wearing it.

We don't live in an ideal world.  The nail that sticks out tends to get hammered.  Public schools and their students are hard enough to deal with without asking for problems. He can be an individual showing his love for ponies outside of school where the parents can help protect him. The child and his parents decisions simply defy an understanding of the experience that occurs in public schools.
 
2014-03-21 08:20:12 PM

Cytokine Storm: Pony thread on the main page?

This will end well.


makeameme.org
 
2014-03-21 08:28:07 PM
Paging  ShiningWizard,ShiningWizard, please report to the Pony thread.

media0.giphy.com
 
2014-03-21 08:33:28 PM

firefly212: Different:

Different:

Different:

Different:

Different:


More than 3 Million people in the US work in fast food, so this is normal:


When you tell your kids to be "normal" instead of outstanding or exceptional, this is the future you set them up with. All this "proud nail gets hammered flat" is utter bullshiat that the lower nails tell themselves to rationalize why they aren't doing better, it is an excuse and a poor rationalization, not a way of thought that leads to successful adulthood.


There are different kinds of different. I'll bet Jeffrey Dahmer was different too.
 
2014-03-21 08:45:16 PM

big pig peaches:

There are different kinds of different. I'll bet Jeffrey Dahmer was different too.


Actually...

Dahmer himself recalled his early years of family life as being of "extreme tension" which he noted between his parents, whom he observed to be constantly arguing with each other. At school, he was observed to be both quiet and timid; one first grade teacher noted upon Dahmer's first grade report card that she observed him to be a reserved child whom she sensed to feel neglected.[11] Nonetheless, he was regarded as a "quiet kid" by many of his peers.

Which, as he aged, changed a bit to


From his freshman year at Revere High School, Dahmer was seen by his peers as an outcast with few friends. Many of Dahmer's classmates later recollected being disturbed by the fact that he was known to drink both beer and spirits, which he smuggled into school inside the lining of his army fatigue jacket....

Despite being regarded as a loner and an oddball amongst his peers at Revere High School, Dahmer nonetheless became something of a cult figure among some students due to the pranks he was known to regularly stage-some of which were done to amuse his classmates, others apparently to simply attract attention.[27] These pranks became known as "Doing a Dahmer" and included bleating, faking epileptic seizures, mocking invalids,[28] and knocking over items both at school and at local stores.[29]


So basically, Dahmer was a bully and a misfit. In retrospect, we could have spotted him as a future cereal (and serial) killer a mile away by his skeleton collection and being a total dick and alcoholic by 14.

Suffice it to say, he would not have had a backpack that stood out.
 
2014-03-21 08:48:32 PM
There's an animated GIF out there somewhere that I saw here on Fark, it has one bored adult and a small kid bouncing up and down excitedly with the respective captions of "me:" and "brony:"

I really want a copy of that if anyone has one.

I can't dis bronys too hard, I'm a Tolkein and Lovecraft nerd. I guess it's one of those things I'll never personally understand much like Trekkies and foot fetishism.
 
2014-03-21 08:50:18 PM
I give him 2 years before he kills himself, as the administration finds it impossible to make children be friends with eachother.

Kid won't have another friend for the rest of the time he's in school. Just like that fat kid in my middle school who was indelibly marked as a big fat crybaby when he ran off in the middle of the day crying and hid in the woods.

/good jorb, ponies.
 
2014-03-21 08:53:44 PM

maxheck: There's an animated GIF out there somewhere that I saw here on Fark, it has one bored adult and a small kid bouncing up and down excitedly with the respective captions of "me:" and "brony:"

I really want a copy of that if anyone has one.

I can't dis bronys too hard, I'm a Tolkein and Lovecraft nerd. I guess it's one of those things I'll never personally understand much like Trekkies and foot fetishism.


Loecraft is great. Check out Aurthur Machen's "Great God Pan" too. It's in the same vein but old enough to be public domain.
 
2014-03-21 08:56:28 PM
I can't figure out which group I want to lose more: bed-wetting pony derps or ooh-rah tough guy bully derps.

/pony thread deeeeeeerrrpppp
 
2014-03-21 08:57:24 PM

Cerebral Ballsy: I can't figure out which group I want to lose more: bed-wetting pony derps or ooh-rah tough guy bully derps.

/pony thread deeeeeeerrrpppp


As long as you feel superior to everyone for no explicable reason, sweetie, I'm sure you'll be okay.
 
2014-03-21 09:02:25 PM

doglover: Cerebral Ballsy: I can't figure out which group I want to lose more: bed-wetting pony derps or ooh-rah tough guy bully derps.

/pony thread deeeeeeerrrpppp

As long as you feel superior to everyone for no explicable reason, sweetie, I'm sure you'll be okay.


Well I think the reason is pretty obvious, derp.
 
2014-03-21 09:17:39 PM
weknowmemes.com
 
2014-03-21 09:40:00 PM

Delawheredad: I was an incredibly dorky kid. I was ragged on and bullied for all twelve years of my schooling experience. When i received my diploma my class mates booed me! Some of the razing I deserved most of it  was  simply picking on the brainy odd kid. Even though school was hell to the point where i seriously considered suicide I made it a point to try and not be a victim as much as i could. My life was hellish enough to not add to it by wearing the "wrong" clothes or having the  "wrong" accessories. Conformity is an EXCELLENT defense plan! Camouflage WORKS!

  These parents are just making life harder for their kid in the  future. It IS that simple!


Camouflage. It's like hide-and-seek, but waaaaaay more intense.
--Maud Pie
 
2014-03-21 09:49:40 PM

GanjSmokr: nekom: FirstNationalBastard: Well, that's going to lead to at least 20% more bullying.

Yeah, just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean it's a grand idea.

Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt


i1207.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-21 09:54:40 PM
I can see both sides here.  The parents had to see that sending their kid with that backpack was going to get him bullied.  That's a given, no brainer.  That backpack = bullying.  However, the bullying needs to be punished.

It would've saved the kid lots of therapy had mom and dad simply said "let's leave this backpack at home to keep your things in and use another one for school".  However, in a perfect world, a kid would be free to use whatever backpack they want without asshats bullying them.

This isn't a perfect world.
 
2014-03-21 09:58:00 PM
You should go to youtube to see Hitler's reaction to news of Bronies in Germany.
 
2014-03-21 10:13:41 PM
Bronies are autistic
 
2014-03-21 10:30:32 PM

Delawheredad: I was an incredibly dorky kid. I was ragged on and bullied for all twelve years of my schooling experience. When i received my diploma my class mates booed me! Some of the razing I deserved most of it  was  simply picking on the brainy odd kid. Even though school was hell to the point where i seriously considered suicide I made it a point to try and not be a victim as much as i could. My life was hellish enough to not add to it by wearing the "wrong" clothes or having the  "wrong" accessories. Conformity is an EXCELLENT defense plan! Camouflage WORKS!

  These parents are just making life harder for their kid in the  future. It IS that simple!


You're wrong.  And it is that simple.
 
2014-03-21 10:30:40 PM

Ned Stark: baronbloodbath: TV's Vinnie: Glenn Beck is a Brony.

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I now feel officially sick.

I feel like I just did mental gymnastics.  I don't know whether to welcome him into the Herd or violently kick him in the jimmies.

/This is what cognitive dissonance feels like!
//I guess he earns a tiny, wee speck of redemption
///For now

Glenn is a showman out to make a dollar where he can. Single twentysomething males (I.E. Bronies) have lots of disposable income. This kid is young enough that him liking ponies wont weird out Beck's 55+ core demographic, but sticking up for him will still net a little of the bring audience.

Its all business.

/conspiracy mode over.


Yeah, he sure as Hell didn't help out after Tropical Storm Sandy. Oh wait...

http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/11/18/photos-mercury-one-and-hopenyc-p ar tner-to-provide-relief-for-hurricane-sandy-victims-during-day-of-hope/

But you never heard about that, right?
 
2014-03-21 10:33:31 PM
doglover:

maxheck: There's an animated GIF out there somewhere that I saw here on Fark, it has one bored adult and a small kid bouncing up and down excitedly with the respective captions of "me:" and "brony:"

I really want a copy of that if anyone has one.

I can't dis bronys too hard, I'm a Tolkein and Lovecraft nerd. I guess it's one of those things I'll never personally understand much like Trekkies and foot fetishism.

Loecraft is great. Check out Aurthur Machen's "Great God Pan" too. It's in the same vein but old enough to be public domain.


Oh, believe me, I think of that every time I go to the pharmacy, and whenever I think of "The Great God Pan" I think of that one story he wrote where he whacked a lich with a frying pan on a fishing trip.

Life is more interesting if you look at it in a Machen way.

"The King In Yellow" is on gutenburg.org, just saying. :)
 
2014-03-21 10:39:02 PM

Big_Doofus: Delawheredad: Are there ANY sensible parents these days? yes bullying is a scourge we should battle. At the same time part of parental responsibility is teaching your kid how NOT to become a victim. Would I have let my kid wear that back pack to school? Not on your life! It is the SAME  as sending the kid to school with a  "KICK ME!" sign taped to his back! it may not be right but it IS a fact! The world sucks and is full of a holes, learning how to recognize and avoid them is something ALL parents should instill in their kids at the earliest possible age.

Bingo!  Someone actually gets it.

I have three kids, and I realize part of my responsibility as a parent is to try to help my kids NOT be targets.


A far bigger part of your responsibility as a parent is to help your kids learn to be themselves, even in --- no, ESPECIALLY in, the face of bullying.
 
2014-03-21 10:40:04 PM

maxheck: "The King In Yellow" is on gutenburg.org, just saying.


Grabbed mine free on Amazon for my Kindle.
 
2014-03-21 10:56:39 PM

Lapdance: Now we have a generation or two raised as precious little snowflakes and they're carrying right along. Maybe it'll die out one day. Just doesn't seem like a good Survival Trait to pass along. Just because you cry about other people or kids "Bullying" doesn't make it magically go away. When you're older you get to think more logically, kids don't and proper parents should help foster that. "You know Jimmy, if you wear that MLP backpack, you might get Teased a little!" (Christ someone's gonna kick his ass!) "But No, Mom, I wanna wear it!" "OK, Sweetie, whatever you want!" What else can I say?


This. As a kid who was picked-on relentlessly at that age, the one thing I learned is to give them as little ammo as possible. It doesn't excuse it, but that's how it is.

I knew better than to wear in a Super Mario shirt or whatever at that age. As cool as I thought it might have been, it would have just given the kids another reason to mess with me. Kids at that age are cruel and monstrous and the best to survive is to blend in to the scenery as much as possible. The less visible you are, the less likely people are to mess with you.

Again, I'm not excusing or victim-blaming -- those kids are little shiats whose parents should have taught them better. But, we don't live in a perfect world, so in some situations it's best to just avoid being seen as much as possible.
 
2014-03-21 10:59:18 PM

Daedalus27: understanding of the experience that occurs in public schools.


And that is exactly what needs to change.  Bullying of any kind should not be tolerated under any circumstances, and we do a disservice to ourselves and our children by accepting the presumption that there is little to be done about it, and that we should 'work around it' in some way.  Hell, I went to private schools from K-12, and not only was the bullying worse than the public schools, but it was just as 'accepted' as the norm.  (made worse by the fact that in private schools, the bullies were rich enough to let their parents buy them out of trouble)

Outside of overtly racist or inflammatory themes, kids should be free to be themselves and express who they are without fear of being bullied.  Period.
 
2014-03-21 11:00:05 PM

Mid_mo_mad_man: firefly212: Different:

Different:

Different:

Different:

Different:


More than 3 Million people in the US work in fast food, so this is normal:


When you tell your kids to be "normal" instead of outstanding or exceptional, this is the future you set them up with. All this "proud nail gets hammered flat" is utter bullshiat that the lower nails tell themselves to rationalize why they aren't doing better, it is an excuse and a poor rationalization, not a way of thought that leads to successful adulthood.

Teaching him to be different is not going to make him get ahead in life. Quite frankly the best way to deal with this would be uniforms. Everybody looking the same with no variety alliwed. Your there to learn not to be special.


Uniforms? Ya mean like brown shirts?

Dear God! I just Godwined a Brony thread. Is that like dividing by zero?
 
2014-03-21 11:02:48 PM

acad1228: Mid_mo_mad_man: firefly212: Different:

Different:

Different:

Different:

Different:


More than 3 Million people in the US work in fast food, so this is normal:


When you tell your kids to be "normal" instead of outstanding or exceptional, this is the future you set them up with. All this "proud nail gets hammered flat" is utter bullshiat that the lower nails tell themselves to rationalize why they aren't doing better, it is an excuse and a poor rationalization, not a way of thought that leads to successful adulthood.

Teaching him to be different is not going to make him get ahead in life. Quite frankly the best way to deal with this would be uniforms. Everybody looking the same with no variety alliwed. Your there to learn not to be special.

Uniforms? Ya mean like brown shirts?

Dear God! I just Godwined a Brony thread. Is that like dividing by zero?


Not really. Lots of Nazi pone out there.

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And even the show has some Germanic millitary allusions.

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2014-03-21 11:04:24 PM
and the only winners in this are Hasbro.
 
2014-03-21 11:05:50 PM
North Carolina. Ponies aren't the problem, it's the rainbow on the  Rainbow Dash backpack.
 
2014-03-21 11:05:55 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Daedalus27: understanding of the experience that occurs in public schools.

And that is exactly what needs to change.  Bullying of any kind should not be tolerated under any circumstances, and we do a disservice to ourselves and our children by accepting the presumption that there is little to be done about it, and that we should 'work around it' in some way.  Hell, I went to private schools from K-12, and not only was the bullying worse than the public schools, but it was just as 'accepted' as the norm.  (made worse by the fact that in private schools, the bullies were rich enough to let their parents buy them out of trouble)

Outside of overtly racist or inflammatory themes, kids should be free to be themselves and express who they are without fear of being bullied.  Period.


They should be, but they're not. It's a little the workplace; you can be eccentric and express yourself, but it doesn't always end well.

School and work are not the best places to express yourself.
 
2014-03-21 11:10:13 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: For those interested, the 2014 MLP Census has been released.  Some quick tidbits:

- Males are down to 81% of the fandom, continuing a trend of more female Bronies
- Mean Brony age rose 8 months between 2013 and 2014 to 20.88 years
- Russia is now the #4 country of Brony residence, and US Bronies now make up only 58% of the Herd
- Utah has the most Bronies per capita in the US, Mississippi continues to trail the pack
- Median household income for Brony zip codes was $61,578, more than $10,000 over the national median
- 84% of Bronies identify as exclusively or mainly heterosexual


Don't they call themselves Pegasisters?
 
2014-03-21 11:11:10 PM

pxlboy: School and work are not the best places to express yourself.


Oh, don't dash their hopes about what corporate life is like.
 
2014-03-21 11:11:16 PM

pxlboy: School and work are not the best places to express yourself.


It's also never acceptable to physically abuse someone based solely on what they're wearing. That's even true in open warfare.

Just because kids will pick on each other doesn't mean you shouldn't punish the ones who act up in a manner that is criminally unacceptable.

The worst part is, it sounds like you need therapy. You were bullied so it's okay for other people to be bullied? That's stinkin' thinkin', sugarcube.
 
2014-03-21 11:12:02 PM
Boojum2k:

maxheck: "The King In Yellow" is on gutenburg.org, just saying.

Grabbed mine free on Amazon for my Kindle.

If you want to go a little further back, Bram Stoker of Dracula fame wrote "The Lair of The White Worm," which was pretty creepy and atmospheric for a penny-a-word tale. There's a so-so adaptation of it under the same title. It needs more kites... why the hell are the kites looming? I do not know.
 
2014-03-21 11:14:46 PM
Well ain't that some shiat
 
2014-03-21 11:15:35 PM

Delawheredad: Crocrocket Slim

  i grew up in rural Pennsylvania. it was a hick town with virtually no minorities and virtually EVER white citizen was a racist redneck. I was teased in part because my grandmother who lived in the  same town)and Father h had thick Brooklyn accents. This town was so screwed up that when some local POISONED A BLIND TEACHER'S GUIDE DOG the rednecks thought it was utterly hilarious! We only lived there because of my father's job as soon as we graduated my entire family fled the town. NO ONE from my family lives there today. We were smart people in a land of morons and the brought out a LOT of resentment amongst the locals. I was mocked for, among other thing, READING BOOKS IN STUDY HALL! There is a reason that PA outside of Philly and Pittsburgh is know as as Pensyltucky!


I found that intense cutting sarcasm was the best way to defend onesself.  I only managed to get punched in the gut once!

/grew up in western PA.
 
2014-03-21 11:22:27 PM
Pensyltucky!

This has always bothered me, too. Kentucky ain't that bad. Alabama and the Carolinas are the real shiat holes of the south, even then only politically. There's plenty of good people trying to break out and fix it.

And PA's really nice if you're just passing through. Yes, it's rural. Yes, it's white. But it's also freakin' beautiful and the animals don't like the hoopies either.

But more than that, more than the ignorance and hatred, Pensyltucky just sounds farking retarded. It's obviously Pennessee that is the more proper and cromulent portmanteau.
 
2014-03-21 11:27:47 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: nine-year-old boy from wearing his My Little Pony backpack

I'm betting he doesn't get enough attention at home.


He'll be getting it now, via punches to the face.

Feel bad for the teachers though, needless work all because some guy can't be bothered to say "I don't really care if you like ponies son, that's great and all but you're just going to get beat the hell out of."
 
2014-03-21 11:40:24 PM

Terrible Old Man: Feel bad for the teachers though, needless work


No, weeding out the little psychopaths who feel they have a right to abuse others and aren't going to contribute to society in any meaningful way should be part of the teachers job.

Give the bullies some negative reinforcement against their behavior, as I noted above (detention, suspension, parental meetings, etc.). If they don't respond to that, CPS can determine if it's a home problem and take appropriate action. If that fails, then institutionalize them.
Give them a chance to learn their behavior is 100% wrong and unacceptable. If they cannot learn even that, remove them entirely from the presence of the vast majority of children who can and will learn.
 
2014-03-21 11:42:54 PM

doglover: Alabama and the Carolinas are the real shiat holes of the south


No, Mississippi and Louisiana are the real shiatholes of the South. Cant say for the Carolinas, but Alabama isn't all that bad, in a weird way.
 
2014-03-21 11:44:22 PM
Thats farking hilarious! A school recommends agaist obvious behaviour that will get a kid bullied, and everyone spazzes out.

Thanks to these 11,000+ strangers, this poor kid will have to learn things the hard way.

For shame, you guys. Really.

Poor kid.
 
2014-03-21 11:50:32 PM

Colin O'Scopy: this poor kid will have to learn things the hard way.


Nope. At this point, as much attention as the school has drawn to itself over its ham-fisted, blame-the-victim mentality, if any other bully so much as scratches this boy, the school district is paying for it to the tune of about six or seven figures.

So sorry to all the bully cheerleaders, you won't get vicarious revenge on this innocent kid. Not yours.
 
2014-03-21 11:52:45 PM

Boojum2k: Colin O'Scopy: this poor kid will have to learn things the hard way.

Nope. At this point, as much attention as the school has drawn to itself over its ham-fisted, blame-the-victim mentality, if any other bully so much as scratches this boy, the school district is paying for it to the tune of about six or seven figures.

So sorry to all the bully cheerleaders, you won't get vicarious revenge on this innocent kid. Not yours.


Nah, they'll still treat him like a weirdo.
 
2014-03-21 11:59:48 PM

Frank N Stein: Nah, they'll still treat him like a weirdo.


There's lots of weirdoes in schools, they generally outnumber the bullies. They just aren't violent psychopaths like a lot of the bullies. If the school does its job of keeping the violent bullies under control, he'll make plenty of friends.
 
2014-03-22 12:03:03 AM
Wow.  Glenn farking Beck came down on the side of good?

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2014-03-22 12:22:36 AM

SgtArkie: shtychkn: shamanwest: nekom: GanjSmokr:
Exactly.  If this kid gets beat up,  it's completely his fault for wearing that backpack.

/just like it was that girl's fault she got raped for wearing that short skirt

No, the crime is always the fault of the perpetrator.  That doesn't mean it isn't a stupid idea.  If I go to a predominantly black neighborhood wearing a racist t-shirt and I get my ass kicked, it's still assault but wouldn't you call me a farking idiot for doing that?

I'm going to do this in all caps because that was the most farking idiotic piece of shiat ball-licking jackassery I have ever read.

THERE IS A BIG farkING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WEARING A SHIRT OR EMBLEM DESIGNED TO OFFEND OR HARASS A MINORITY GROUP AND HAVING A MOTHER farkING PONY BACKPACK.

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2014-03-22 12:29:41 AM

gadian: I can see both sides here.  The parents had to see that sending their kid with that backpack was going to get him bullied.  That's a given, no brainer.  That backpack = bullying.  However, the bullying needs to be punished.

It would've saved the kid lots of therapy had mom and dad simply said "let's leave this backpack at home to keep your things in and use another one for school".  However, in a perfect world, a kid would be free to use whatever backpack they want without asshats bullying them.

This isn't a perfect world.


I just realized this. Anyone notice there has been no statements from the dad?
 
2014-03-22 12:30:33 AM

Boojum2k: doglover: Alabama and the Carolinas are the real shiat holes of the south

No, Mississippi and Louisiana are the real shiatholes of the South. Cant say for the Carolinas, but Alabama isn't all that bad, in a weird way.


I just hear about them in the news.

Nowhere in America is REALLY bad. Not even deepest, darkest Detroit. Sure, bad things will possibly happen to you there, but it's not like they're lining up the men folk against the wall and shooting them, raping the women, then shooting them, too while keeping the children as slaves.
 
2014-03-22 12:32:03 AM

fluffy2097: pxlboy: School and work are not the best places to express yourself.

Oh, don't dash their hopes about what corporate life is like.


Kid, I hate to dash your hopes, but a good job is a goddamn rarity. Don't shy away from the reality that you'll be working 'til twilight most nights, and even if you do find a place you can love and tolerate, it's never gonna be the next Apple. Jack in, turn on, tune out. Easy as pie.
 
2014-03-22 12:34:10 AM

maxheck: Boojum2k:

maxheck: "The King In Yellow" is on gutenburg.org, just saying.

Grabbed mine free on Amazon for my Kindle.

If you want to go a little further back, Bram Stoker of Dracula fame wrote "The Lair of The White Worm," which was pretty creepy and atmospheric for a penny-a-word tale. There's a so-so adaptation of it under the same title. It needs more kites... why the hell are the kites looming? I do not know.


The Lair of the White Worm was quite good, and a personal fave of mine. Another favorite is "The Moon Pool" by Abraham Merritt. Nice sci-fi/lovecraftian fantasy mix.
 
2014-03-22 01:14:06 AM
Avenging Unicorn jpg
 
2014-03-22 01:15:47 AM

Torchsong: Ned Stark: The bag had rarity, twilight, and pinkie pie on it. Kids got bad taste in ponies.

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img.fark.net
 
2014-03-22 01:51:44 AM

gadian: I can see both sides here.  The parents had to see that sending their kid with that backpack was going to get him bullied.  That's a given, no brainer.  That backpack = bullying.  However, the bullying needs to be punished.

It would've saved the kid lots of therapy had mom and dad simply said "let's leave this backpack at home to keep your things in and use another one for school".  However, in a perfect world, a kid would be free to use whatever backpack they want without asshats bullying them.

This isn't a perfect world.


I really can't help but wonder what kind of parent would let their kid wear te backpack, knowing it would be problematic, but even more, what kind of overly dramatic, attention seeking parent calls the news and reports this?

I got bullied in school for wearing odd clothes, sometimes because I wasn't popular. But I noticed some bullied kids thrived on the attention the bullying got them. I don't know maybe there was abuse in their family and the chaos had grown dangerously comfortable. Who knows. But a small number of them seemed to invite trouble. If this kid isnt inviting trouble, his parents sure are.
 
2014-03-22 01:57:10 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Perhaps he needs a rock.

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Twilight Farkle: FirstNationalBastard: Perhaps he needs a rock.

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Glenn Beck has a rock.

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KellyKellyKelly: Paging  ShiningWizard,ShiningWizard, please report to the Pony thread.

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Grand_Moff_Joseph: Outside of overtly racist or inflammatory themes, kids should be free to be themselves and express who they are without fear of being bullied.  Period.


OH YEAH!!!!!

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2014-03-22 04:04:12 AM

alice_600: gadian: I can see both sides here.  The parents had to see that sending their kid with that backpack was going to get him bullied.  That's a given, no brainer.  That backpack = bullying.  However, the bullying needs to be punished.

It would've saved the kid lots of therapy had mom and dad simply said "let's leave this backpack at home to keep your things in and use another one for school".  However, in a perfect world, a kid would be free to use whatever backpack they want without asshats bullying them.

This isn't a perfect world.

I just realized this. Anyone notice there has been no statements from the dad?


He's coming.
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2014-03-22 04:16:07 AM

jso2897: alice_600: gadian: I can see both sides here.  The parents had to see that sending their kid with that backpack was going to get him bullied.  That's a given, no brainer.  That backpack = bullying.  However, the bullying needs to be punished.

It would've saved the kid lots of therapy had mom and dad simply said "let's leave this backpack at home to keep your things in and use another one for school".  However, in a perfect world, a kid would be free to use whatever backpack they want without asshats bullying them.

This isn't a perfect world.

I just realized this. Anyone notice there has been no statements from the dad?

He's coming.
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25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-03-22 05:02:17 AM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Daedalus27: understanding of the experience that occurs in public schools.

And that is exactly what needs to change.  Bullying of any kind should not be tolerated under any circumstances, and we do a disservice to ourselves and our children by accepting the presumption that there is little to be done about it, and that we should 'work around it' in some way.  Hell, I went to private schools from K-12, and not only was the bullying worse than the public schools, but it was just as 'accepted' as the norm.  (made worse by the fact that in private schools, the bullies were rich enough to let their parents buy them out of trouble)

Outside of overtly racist or inflammatory themes, kids should be free to be themselves and express who they are without fear of being bullied.  Period.


I wish it would change. But you know and I know it is a slow process at best and this kid is not going to be educated in an environment with students who understand and accept his choices of personal expression.  As much as you would want it to, it isn't going to happen.  Now do you continue to advocate for this kid to be a square peg in a round hole, who probably will have a miserable experience that potentially scars him for life (or worse), or do you try and change his expectations and behavior a bit to minimize the likelihood of abuse.  Which is easier, changing society and human development over the past few hundred years of public and private education, or trying to reduce the harm to this one child?

I understand that people would want this child to be a flag bearer for anti-bullying.  There have been too many tragedies of marginalized children unable to cope with cruelty, hatred, and abuse (both psychological and physical). I just don't see that having this child who enjoys a non-traditional entertainment choice and wishes to publically display it when we know it will get him hurt, is the right move.  Do we need to wait for him to suffer so we can have a follow up story down the line in the hopes it is a catalyst for change?  So far numerous deaths due to bullying haven't caused a evolution and understanding in the treatment of this serious issue, perhaps one more dead kid will do it?
 
2014-03-22 05:15:41 AM

Daedalus27: Which is easier, changing society and human development over the past few hundred years of public and private education, or trying to reduce the harm to this one child?


False choice is false. Great steps have been made in reducing bullying and providing continuing efforts to press against it helps far more than this one child.

Daedalus27: So far numerous deaths due to bullying haven't caused a evolution and understanding in the treatment of this serious issue, perhaps one more dead kid will do it?


After all this attention to the school district, he's the safest kid there. As I already noted:
. At this point, as much attention as the school has drawn to itself over its ham-fisted, blame-the-victim mentality, if any other bully so much as scratches this boy, the school district is paying for it to the tune of about six or seven figures.

So sorry to all the bully cheerleaders, you won't get vicarious revenge on this innocent kid. Not yours.


So don't be so concerned.
 
2014-03-22 05:24:35 AM

Boojum2k: Daedalus27: Which is easier, changing society and human development over the past few hundred years of public and private education, or trying to reduce the harm to this one child?

False choice is false. Great steps have been made in reducing bullying and providing continuing efforts to press against it helps far more than this one child.

Daedalus27: So far numerous deaths due to bullying haven't caused a evolution and understanding in the treatment of this serious issue, perhaps one more dead kid will do it?

After all this attention to the school district, he's the safest kid there. As I already noted:
. At this point, as much attention as the school has drawn to itself over its ham-fisted, blame-the-victim mentality, if any other bully so much as scratches this boy, the school district is paying for it to the tune of about six or seven figures.

So sorry to all the bully cheerleaders, you won't get vicarious revenge on this innocent kid. Not yours.

So don't be so concerned.


He may be protected now but how long until the media moves on?  He is only safe so long as he is in the spotlight., Besides, Elementary school is a heck of a lot easier to police due to the closer supervision and lower numbers.  If he continues this into middle school, he is in for a world of hurt.  The concern isn't for him today, but rather a couple years down the line when his protective bubble gets burst.  Enabling his illusion of safety is only going to make matters worse.
 
2014-03-22 05:41:58 AM

Daedalus27: If he continues this into middle school, he is in for a world of hurt.


Sadly for the bully-supporters, the media record as is will suffice for any legal action that may need to come up in the event of retaliation, and the school district is very aware of it. The concern trolls with their crocodile tears will find their sadistic fantasies unfulfilled once again.

We're witnessing the end of an era, the acceptance and encouragement of these twisted little sociopaths and their little sycophants is diminishing and coming to a close. It's becoming less and less acceptable in society, from early education on up through adulthood, to hate people for their harmless pieces of individuality. Even now, the only real place for those worshipping the myth of the bully as social police are finding that they can only speak out anonymously, hiding like the cowards they are on message boards and similar websites. And even there they are routinely called out and marked for their enabling behaviors.
 
2014-03-22 07:27:51 AM

Boojum2k: Daedalus27: If he continues this into middle school, he is in for a world of hurt.

Sadly for the bully-supporters, the media record as is will suffice for any legal action that may need to come up in the event of retaliation, and the school district is very aware of it. The concern trolls with their crocodile tears will find their sadistic fantasies unfulfilled once again.

We're witnessing the end of an era, the acceptance and encouragement of these twisted little sociopaths and their little sycophants is diminishing and coming to a close. It's becoming less and less acceptable in society, from early education on up through adulthood, to hate people for their harmless pieces of individuality. Even now, the only real place for those worshipping the myth of the bully as social police are finding that they can only speak out anonymously, hiding like the cowards they are on message boards and similar websites. And even there they are routinely called out and marked for their enabling behaviors.


tell the truth. you were rubbing one out while you typed that, weren't you?
 
2014-03-22 08:45:14 AM

doglover: pxlboy: School and work are not the best places to express yourself.

It's also never acceptable to physically abuse someone based solely on what they're wearing. That's even true in open warfare.

Just because kids will pick on each other doesn't mean you shouldn't punish the ones who act up in a manner that is criminally unacceptable.

The worst part is, it sounds like you need therapy. You were bullied so it's okay for other people to be bullied? That's stinkin' thinkin', sugarcube.


I should have specified; I don't condone physical abuse. I was referring to making fun of someone, not actually beating on some kid 'cause he's different.

Had I know then (middle school) what I know now, I would have kept far less visible.

The bullies should be dealt with, but not making yourself a target is a good policy.

No, the kids should be allowed to be themselves, but it doesn't work that way.
 
2014-03-22 08:46:54 AM

fluffy2097: pxlboy: School and work are not the best places to express yourself.

Oh, don't dash their hopes about what corporate life is like.


I think I see what you did there >_>

Haven't had my coffee yet
 
2014-03-22 08:49:56 AM
And yet CA kids cannot wear a shirt with an American flag on it for the same reason?
 
2014-03-22 09:57:14 AM

Thunderpipes: And yet CA kids cannot wear a shirt with an American flag on it for the same reason?


California kids can wear American Flag T-shirts to school. Some students, at one school, were forbidden to wear specific shirts on a specific day for a specific, pre-planned, hostile purpose. There is no ban on flag shirts in California schools. You aklways lie when you post - stop lying.
 
2014-03-22 10:39:26 AM

pxlboy: I was referring to making fun of someone, not actually beating on some kid 'cause he's different.


The former causes far more lasting damage than the latter. Bruises only need a week to heal.

Had I know then (middle school) what I know now, I would have kept far less visible.

Case in point. Far, far more lasting.
 
2014-03-22 12:22:07 PM

MooseUpNorth: pxlboy: I was referring to making fun of someone, not actually beating on some kid 'cause he's different.

The former causes far more lasting damage than the latter. Bruises only need a week to heal.

Had I know then (middle school) what I know now, I would have kept far less visible.

Case in point. Far, far more lasting.


Exactly. My mother pulled me out of public school after the sixth grade because of that nonsense.

Kids at that age are monsters and sometimes it's best to camouflage yourself than to stick out. It's good that bullying is finally getting the scrutiny that it needs, but there will always be bullies at school or even in the workplace.

There's a time and a place for everything and middle/high school is not the place. Those are the years kids discover who they are, but that individuality, despite the best efforts of many, comes at a price.

The cries of victim blaming here make me a little sad. I know what it's like to be that kid everyone picks on. If he was my kid or nephew or some such, I would have tried to talk him out of wearing it to school. It's best not to paint a target on yourself.

/nscsb
 
2014-03-22 12:22:33 PM

Boojum2k: There's lots of weirdoes in schools, they generally outnumber the bullies. They just aren't violent psychopaths like a lot of the bullies.


Eric Harris, Dylan Cleabold, The VT tech shoter, Adam Lanza, and several other Violently psychopathic weirdos would disagree with you.
 
2014-03-22 01:21:35 PM

fluffy2097: Eric Harris, Dylan Cleabold, The VT tech shoter, Adam Lanza, and several other Violently psychopathic weirdos would disagree with you.


I'm pretty happy when psychopaths who inflict violence against innocent kids disagree with me.

Thanks!
 
2014-03-22 04:43:08 PM

Boojum2k: Daedalus27: If he continues this into middle school, he is in for a world of hurt.

Sadly for the bully-supporters, the media record as is will suffice for any legal action that may need to come up in the event of retaliation, and the school district is very aware of it. The concern trolls with their crocodile tears will find their sadistic fantasies unfulfilled once again.

We're witnessing the end of an era, the acceptance and encouragement of these twisted little sociopaths and their little sycophants is diminishing and coming to a close. It's becoming less and less acceptable in society, from early education on up through adulthood, to hate people for their harmless pieces of individuality. Even now, the only real place for those worshipping the myth of the bully as social police are finding that they can only speak out anonymously, hiding like the cowards they are on message boards and similar websites. And even there they are routinely called out and marked for their enabling behaviors.


I don't know what world you are living in, but your take on what is occurring is far removed from reality.  Yes, there is the occasional story exposing abuse, but you think somehow this kid receiving media attention is going to make his life safe and easier going forward?  Why do you think that?  The bullies will somehow care that for a brief moment this kid had some fame?  Schools can only protect him when he is in class and they are made aware of an issue, otherwise what are they supposed to do, put him in a soundproof force field? They can't protect him on social media and in areas outside of school.  Legal action, far from some panacea, can only remedy him after his life has been shattered.  You think a kid shouting "pony boy" or pushing him to the ground is going to receive any kind of compensation?  Maybe a few bucks but far less than the cost of attorney's fees and unless these parents are made of money you can't sue your way to protecting him.

I wish you were correct in that we are seeing a decline in bullying . I think the evidence suggests it is actually increasing as now the harassment and torment can occur 24/7 on social media instead of the old fashion face to face taunting and physical violence. Putting on rose colored glasses and wishing away the problem isn't going to make the situation better.  Only by realizing the difficulty those who want to be overtly different face and taking realistic steps to address the issue can we reduce the violence and hatred that is seen.  Hell, your comments are a little bullying in your dogmatic painting of anyone who has an alternative view or idea on the situation as supporting the bullying is somewhat hurtful.
 
2014-03-22 04:59:12 PM

Daedalus27: I think the evidence suggests it is actually increasing


Sorry, that's an effect of media saturation, which actually helps expose and curtail the bullying as more light shines upon it. Percentages have grown only as more comes to light, but the trend now is for greater enforcement against the bullies and far greater support for the victims. After all, this story only made news because the school responded in the wrong way initially, and has since been corrected.

There certainly seem to be a lot of people in this thread hoping for bad things to happen to this boy. They are much like the child bullies, cowards at heart except these adult enablers are hiding behind anonymity hoping to spread their encouragement of negative behaviors. Their advice that this boy give up on something that means a lot to him is the exact opposite of what anti-bullying experts state, and they know it, for they are really on the side of the sadistic creeps.

As for your claims of "bullying," in your own case, I suggest you read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
There is no need for a tolerant person to be accepting of bigots and bullies. Only those supporting the sociopaths would even claim such, and it makes their concern so much less noteworthy.
 
2014-03-22 06:34:18 PM

Boojum2k: Daedalus27: I think the evidence suggests it is actually increasing

Sorry, that's an effect of media saturation, which actually helps expose and curtail the bullying as more light shines upon it. Percentages have grown only as more comes to light, but the trend now is for greater enforcement against the bullies and far greater support for the victims. After all, this story only made news because the school responded in the wrong way initially, and has since been corrected.

There certainly seem to be a lot of people in this thread hoping for bad things to happen to this boy. They are much like the child bullies, cowards at heart except these adult enablers are hiding behind anonymity hoping to spread their encouragement of negative behaviors. Their advice that this boy give up on something that means a lot to him is the exact opposite of what anti-bullying experts state, and they know it, for they are really on the side of the sadistic creeps.

As for your claims of "bullying," in your own case, I suggest you read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
There is no need for a tolerant person to be accepting of bigots and bullies. Only those supporting the sociopaths would even claim such, and it makes their concern so much less noteworthy.


Media saturation certainly raises the exposure of the practice but I don't think it is just increased exposure but an actual increase in actions.  The improved internet access and cell phone proliferation along with social media now allows abuse to occur at a distance and with your identity hidden.  These tools simply were not available in previous decades and although they can be used for outsiders to find support, they are also tools of abuse. Before, it was just the kids in your town who presumably you had contact growing up with that could engage in this behavior.  With society much more mobile and the tools available, there are a larger pool of those able to reach out and hurt someone.  I mean look at this thread, there are people from around the US and world discussing this topic when 20-30 years ago only those in the town may be aware by a newspaper article on the subject or word of mouth.  Some of the posts are constructive, some are antagonistic, some are trolls. Given this development, the likelihood of abuse increases a bit although how much is open to debate.

Who in this thead is hoping this kid gets bullied? And how the hell are you inferring that anyone here is supporting bullying?  Seriously, who here has said they want this kid hurt.  Suggesting that his choices are likely to lead to abuse doesn't mean anyone wishes it. It is the fact that some kids are cruel especially to those perceived as different or weak and in our experience, observation, and judgment the choices he and his parents are making are exposing him to a higher risk than other choices would lead to.  I don't see where you are getting that anyone is tolerating bullying behavior.  The fact is it will take an effort by all involved to avoid the damage we have seen done to countless children due to bulling.

If a person is in a bad neighborhood at night, earbuds with a nice tune buzzing in their ear, with $100 bills hanging out of my pockets, a nice cellphone in their hand, is it really surprising that there is a high potential for them to get robbed?  By pointing out this risk, does it mean I am enabling the robbers and blaming the victim?  If you think this is the case, you have a rather warped viewpoint.  Pointing out risks certainly isn't the same as desiring for or advocating for the robbery to occur or cheering the criminal on and hoping they avoid being prosecuted.  Furthermore, the fact that someone is pointing out risky behavior doesn't mean there isn't the right to engage in this activity, however making people aware of the risk if they don't have the experience (lets say they are a tourist and didn't know it was a bad area or aren't exposed to street crime) can be useful. Everyone has a right to be secure in their belongings and safe from harm and it is illegal to engage in unlawful behavior that violates these norms.  At the same time, most people have and use locks on their doors, many have alarm systems, most are wary of going certain places in their town at night.  Why? Because there is a risk that people violate those norms and engaging in perfectly lawful activities and behavior can still result in harm from others who do not follow these norms.  Pointing this out isn't some empowerment of wrong doers, but an understanding of how society functions for good or ill.
 
2014-03-22 06:43:39 PM

Daedalus27: Seriously, who here has said they want this kid hurt.


Oh, I'm sure they are all really very concerned.
 
2014-03-22 08:40:41 PM

Boojum2k: Daedalus27: Seriously, who here has said they want this kid hurt.

Oh, I'm sure they are all really very concerned.


Are you like... the 9 year old from the story? Your jimmies are awful rustled. You've been ranting for several threads now about how we're all sociopaths.
 
2014-03-22 08:57:04 PM

fluffy2097: You've been ranting for several threads now about how we're all sociopaths.


The only ones I've called out are those supporting the bullies, even when they think their concern-troll posts are the height of discretion. I'm not too sorry when it makes them feel uncomfortable, even when they have to back each other up and attempt to insult me due to their cowardly natures.
 
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