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(The Raw Story)   Creationists 'demand' equal airtime on Neil deGrasse Tyson's 'Cosmos' to provide 'balance'. Sorcerers, shamans, yogis and alchemists unable to comment   (rawstory.com) divider line 240
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2014-03-21 02:52:55 PM  
The fark is wrong with these assholes. Should I complain that the stupid televangelists don't cover evolution on their stupid shows?
 
2014-03-21 02:53:35 PM  
Also, when is Tyson going to have witch doctors on? I demand the witch doctors be allowed time to present their beliefs.
 
2014-03-21 02:55:14 PM  
No one is stopping you from coming up with your own miniseries.
 
2014-03-21 02:56:25 PM  
This is all Bill Nye's fault.
 
2014-03-21 02:59:55 PM  
They should get it, as soon as god spontaneously creates a television studio for them.
 
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2014-03-21 03:00:56 PM  
And I demand satisfaction!  More often than not, I can't get no.
 
2014-03-21 03:05:38 PM  
"Falkner complained that Tyson showed life arose from simple organic compounds without mentioning that some believe that's not possible."

Well, yeah. You wouldn't do a special on on human DNA and then say "some believe that people that look different from them are sub-human."
 
2014-03-21 03:08:20 PM  
Um...Since when does an infotainment program NEED to allot time to specific messages.  Can I harass the writers of The Big Bang Theory to have more Jock based story lines or should petition the producers of Duck Dynasty to have episodes devoted to PETA?
 
2014-03-21 03:08:24 PM  
"Creationists aren't even on the radar screen for them, they wouldn't even consider us plausible at all," said Danny Falkner, of Answers In Genesis, which has previously complained about the show.

That's 'cause you're batshiat insane. Fark-head.
 
2014-03-21 03:13:34 PM  

ManateeGag: Can I harass the writers of The Big Bang Theory to have more Jock based story lines? Penny & Bernadette?


FTFY

www.novidadediaria.com.br

www.cineol.net

www.sorozatjunkie.hu

www.adrants.com
 
2014-03-21 03:22:57 PM  
I personally believe that a naked Alexandra Daddario is the explanation for most astrophysical phenomena.

Can we get them to do 5-10 minutes on that in every show?
 
2014-03-21 03:34:51 PM  
They have equal time on our local TV stations every Sunday morning.  Not quite the same production values though.
 
2014-03-21 03:36:40 PM  
I think when they air stores from the Bible it should contain little pop ups like Pop Up Video with scientific facts and refutations by NGT.
 
2014-03-21 03:41:15 PM  
They already have that. It's called The 700 Club.
 
2014-03-21 03:41:22 PM  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine

Remember when Republicans fought tooth and nail to get rid of the Fairness Doctrine because it was unfair to require equal time for rebuttal on controversial issues?
 
2014-03-21 03:43:01 PM  
It's times like these that I want to channel my inner Nero and persecute the heck out of some Christians.  We should send them on a manned expedition to the Sun in a spacecraft called "Where is your god now?"
 
2014-03-21 03:44:00 PM  
Neil deGrasse Tyson, had marginalized those with dissenting views on accepted scientific truths

Ohh please, please, please, tell me what these "scientific truths" are!

Pretty pretty please?
 
2014-03-21 03:44:26 PM  
'No, consideration of special creation is definitely not open for discussion, it would seem,'" Falkner said.

Falkner went on to add "and at no point have they even considered acknowledging that it might be turtles all the way down."
 
2014-03-21 03:47:03 PM  
Gee, if only they had their own networks, they could get their message out to millions.
 
2014-03-21 03:48:59 PM  
I demand equal time on My Family Recipe Rocks! to point out alternative ways to prepare those rocking recipes.
 
2014-03-21 03:52:28 PM  

RexTalionis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine

Remember when Republicans fought tooth and nail to get rid of the Fairness Doctrine because it was unfair to require equal time for rebuttal on controversial issues?


Actually, it *IS* unfair.

If I want to put up a commercial broadcasting station that only airs my viewpoints, so long as I get the proper broadcasting license, etc., I shouldn't be forced to air opposing viewpoints.  That would actually go against my First Amendment rights.

If someone is upset with my views, there are other outlets for them besides mine.

So if I want to listen to the liberal side of things, I'll listen to the local public radio station.  If I want the conservative side, I'll listen to the local Clear Channel talk station.

Certainly, I think there is room for both, and having both is healthy, but requiring the public radio station to broadcast an anti-abortion screed by a religious fundamentalist, or requiring the conservative station to broadcast an editorial by a progressive to ban the private ownership of guns strikes me as fundamentally at odds with the rights of either.
 
2014-03-21 03:53:00 PM  

RexTalionis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine

Remember when Republicans fought tooth and nail to get rid of the Fairness Doctrine because it was unfair to require equal time for rebuttal on controversial issues?


If you are speak out against something they agree with, it's wrong and you hate America and Jesus.

If they speak out against something you agree with, it's rebuttal and they deserve equal time for their side.
 
2014-03-21 03:57:50 PM  

dittybopper: RexTalionis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine

Remember when Republicans fought tooth and nail to get rid of the Fairness Doctrine because it was unfair to require equal time for rebuttal on controversial issues?

Actually, it *IS* unfair.

If I want to put up a commercial broadcasting station that only airs my viewpoints, so long as I get the proper broadcasting license, etc., I shouldn't be forced to air opposing viewpoints.  That would actually go against my First Amendment rights.

If someone is upset with my views, there are other outlets for them besides mine.

So if I want to listen to the liberal side of things, I'll listen to the local public radio station.  If I want the conservative side, I'll listen to the local Clear Channel talk station.

Certainly, I think there is room for both, and having both is healthy, but requiring the public radio station to broadcast an anti-abortion screed by a religious fundamentalist, or requiring the conservative station to broadcast an editorial by a progressive to ban the private ownership of guns strikes me as fundamentally at odds with the rights of either.


last I heard, FOX is a privately owned business and Cosmo is produced (in part) by someone who makes them a shiat load of money.

if they had a show that was backed by someone who brings in equal coin, I'm sure FOX would have no problem giving them a time slot.  But why should FOX or Seth McFarlane write a specific segment in their show to accommodate a group that doesn't agree with the information expressed?  Should A&E make the Robertsons have an hour devoted to PETA and the evils of duck hunting?
 
2014-03-21 04:03:28 PM  
How dare they discriminate against willing morons!
 
2014-03-21 04:09:25 PM  
I note that Tyson made no reference to the Flying Spaghetti Monster or the beer volcano. For shame, Neil. For shame.
 
2014-03-21 04:13:25 PM  

dittybopper: That would actually go against my First Amendment rights.


No

You (the individual broadcaster) do not own the airwaves. You only have guaranteed exclusivity on closed channels. The government can break into any broadcast as required. Your landlord can go into your apartment. You can't just drive your car wherever you want.
 
2014-03-21 04:15:21 PM  
'No, consideration of special creation is definitely not open for discussion, it would seem,'" Falkner said.

*grumpycatGOOD.jpg*
 
2014-03-21 04:18:32 PM  
Here come all the smug Fark libs pretending that science has all the answers.

If you want to see how stupid that is, just take a look back at the flawed history of science.
Scientists were positive that the Sun revolved around the Earth, until they realized that it doesn't
Scientists were positive that the Earth was flat, until they realized that it's not.
Scientists were positive that Newtonian physics were true, until quantum mechanics came along.
In fact, almost everything that science has ever claimed has later been proven false, that's why it changes all the time.

The Bible got it right the 1st time. That's why we haven't had to change it in 2000 years.
 
2014-03-21 04:19:30 PM  

Diogenes: How dare they discriminate against willing morons!


Yes, that group is clearly marked for fleecing, not discrimination. WTF is wrong with FOX and News Corp these days? This calls for more gold-bug ads and a Glenn Beck Marathon. Or whatever.  Bleh.

I would say, that the most amusing thing that could happen is that Cosmos did get pressured into including creation myths and the first creation myth they selected was Zoroastrian, spending weeks on Ahura Mazda (zoom-zoom) then giving the whiny "Answers In Genesis" guy a 30-second gloss over, performed by Seth McFarland while in Brian the Dog character singing it as a showtune-themed jingle for a commercial.
 
2014-03-21 04:24:57 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Here come all the smug Fark libs pretending that science has all the answers.

If you want to see how stupid that is, just take a look back at the flawed history of science.
Scientists were positive that the Sun revolved around the Earth, until they realized that it doesn't
Scientists were positive that the Earth was flat, until they realized that it's not.
Scientists were positive that Newtonian physics were true, until quantum mechanics came along.
In fact, almost everything that science has ever claimed has later been proven false, that's why it changes all the time.

The Bible got it right the 1st time. That's why we haven't had to change it in 2000 years.


i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2014-03-21 04:28:46 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: The Bible got it right the 1st time. That's why we haven't had to change it in 2000 years.


Bo-ring.
 
2014-03-21 04:33:48 PM  
Show about scientific endeavors and discoveries doesn't include things that have no scientific basis? STOP TRYING TO SILENCE US!
 
2014-03-21 04:35:48 PM  
It's about time we include the story of how the universe grew out of Vishnu's navel. That's just common sense.
 
2014-03-21 04:40:33 PM  

dr_blasto: dittybopper: That would actually go against my First Amendment rights.

No

You (the individual broadcaster) do not own the airwaves. You only have guaranteed exclusivity on closed channels. The government can break into any broadcast as required. Your landlord can go into your apartment. You can't just drive your car wherever you want.


You really didn't think your position through, did you?

Presuming I'm licensed, I can drive my car wherever I want on public roads.

Landlord can't just let himself into your apartment without announcing himself, and I'm positive that if he lets himself in at 2:00am while you're asleep, he's violated the law.

And yes, if you are licensed to transmit on a particular frequency, so long as you follow the few rules about profanity and the like, you can transmit whatever political positions you might like and the FCC can't force you to give up air time to opposing viewpoints.
 
2014-03-21 04:43:24 PM  
THIS video of Neil deGrasse Tyson is cosmic.
 
2014-03-21 04:44:24 PM  
In the name of "equal time," I demand that Duck Dynasty be repeatedly interrupted with clips of two (or three) hot lesbians making out.
 
2014-03-21 04:45:22 PM  

dr_blasto: dittybopper: That would actually go against my First Amendment rights.

No

You (the individual broadcaster) do not own the airwaves. You only have guaranteed exclusivity on closed channels. The government can break into any broadcast as required. Your landlord can go into your apartment. You can't just drive your car wherever you want.


So what you are saying is that Fox should give the religulous fundamentalists equal time?
 
2014-03-21 04:45:36 PM  

scottydoesntknow: They already have that. It's called The 700 Club.


Let's be real, it's all just attention whoring, and I bet the guy has a few bucks to be made off the attention.
 
2014-03-21 04:46:26 PM  

dittybopper: dr_blasto: dittybopper: That would actually go against my First Amendment rights.

No

You (the individual broadcaster) do not own the airwaves. You only have guaranteed exclusivity on closed channels. The government can break into any broadcast as required. Your landlord can go into your apartment. You can't just drive your car wherever you want.

You really didn't think your position through, did you?

Presuming I'm licensed, I can drive my car wherever I want on public roads.

Landlord can't just let himself into your apartment without announcing himself, and I'm positive that if he lets himself in at 2:00am while you're asleep, he's violated the law.

And yes, if you are licensed to transmit on a particular frequency, so long as you follow the few rules about profanity and the like, you can transmit whatever political positions you might like and the FCC can't force you to give up air time to opposing viewpoints.


You can't drive on the sidewalk and you can't completely bar your landlord from access to your apartment. My position stands.

The FCC can and continues to determine what is allowed and what is required for you to abide by the constraints of the license. The license may require that you provide XX amount of local-interest programming. The license may bar you from airing pr0n. The license may obligate you to provide XX amount of educational children's programming. The license can also obligate you support XX amount of public interest programming that also has a requirement for balance of political interests.

The last one is an actual requirement for anyone using the DBS frequencies to provide programming to end consumers.

The FCC can also require that you allow them to break in whenever they want. The EAS system, for example, is mandatory.
 
2014-03-21 04:49:57 PM  

dittybopper: dr_blasto: dittybopper: That would actually go against my First Amendment rights.

No

You (the individual broadcaster) do not own the airwaves. You only have guaranteed exclusivity on closed channels. The government can break into any broadcast as required. Your landlord can go into your apartment. You can't just drive your car wherever you want.

So what you are saying is that Fox should give the religulous fundamentalists equal time?


No. I'm only saying that the broadcaster, Newscorp, doesn't own the broadcast frequencies and is, through a licensed privilege, allowed to use them in the public interest. Because of this, they are the FCC's biatch. The same rules don't apply to, say, FX or other cable nets as they aren't using the public air.
 
2014-03-21 04:54:12 PM  

dr_blasto: dittybopper: dr_blasto: dittybopper: That would actually go against my First Amendment rights.

No

You (the individual broadcaster) do not own the airwaves. You only have guaranteed exclusivity on closed channels. The government can break into any broadcast as required. Your landlord can go into your apartment. You can't just drive your car wherever you want.

So what you are saying is that Fox should give the religulous fundamentalists equal time?

No. I'm only saying that the broadcaster, Newscorp, doesn't own the broadcast frequencies and is, through a licensed privilege, allowed to use them in the public interest. Because of this, they are the FCC's biatch. The same rules don't apply to, say, FX or other cable nets as they aren't using the public air.


So you *ARE* saying you think the FCC should be able to force them to give the religulous rebuttal time.
 
2014-03-21 04:56:05 PM  

PainInTheASP: No one is stopping you from coming up with your own miniseries.


Unless you count the five minutes of the network exec laughing at the request.
 
2014-03-21 04:56:40 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Here come all the smug Fark libs pretending that science has all the answers.

If you want to see how stupid that is, just take a look back at the flawed history of science.
Scientists were positive that the Sun revolved around the Earth, until they realized that it doesn't
Scientists were positive that the Earth was flat, until they realized that it's not.
Scientists were positive that Newtonian physics were true, until quantum mechanics came along.
In fact, almost everything that science has ever claimed has later been proven false, that's why it changes all the time.

The Bible got it right the 1st time. That's why we haven't had to change it in 2000 years.


I wonder if you'll get any bites on that.  It's kind of quiet today.
 
2014-03-21 04:57:32 PM  

MrBallou: I personally believe that a naked Alexandra Daddario is the explanation for most astrophysical phenomena.

Can we get them to do 5-10 minutes on that in every show?


Your channel, I wish to subscribe to it.
 
2014-03-21 04:59:04 PM  

dittybopper: So you *ARE* saying you think the FCC should be able to force them to give the religulous rebuttal time.


Able to?  He probably is making a legal case for that, yes.  Should?  Well... to that...

www.ohmz.net
 
2014-03-21 04:59:14 PM  

bdub77: I think when they air stores from the Bible it should contain little pop ups like Pop Up Video with scientific facts and refutations by NGT.


I'd watch that.
 
2014-03-21 04:59:45 PM  
You had The Bible last year.  I think it is fair to allow the nerds to have their version of creation to now.
 
2014-03-21 05:01:16 PM  

RoxtarRyan: bdub77: I think when they air stores from the Bible it should contain little pop ups like Pop Up Video with scientific facts and refutations by NGT.

I'd watch that.


South Park already tested something like that

upload.wikimedia.org

Granted it only had one sentence, but it was the only sentence that needed to be said.
 
2014-03-21 05:01:30 PM  

scottydoesntknow: They already have that. It's called The 700 Club.


I think Neil should demand equal time on The 700 Club to discuss the Big Bang and evolution and such.
 
2014-03-21 05:02:02 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: The Bible got it right the 1st time. That's why we haven't had to change it in 2000 years.


I think the mormons would like to have a word with you.
 
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