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(CBC)   Mother furious that her child [23] was harassed out of a theatre simply because he's autistic [and was causing a disruption]   (cbc.ca) divider line 79
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2014-03-21 01:12:12 PM  
18 votes:
In her blog post, Colson, author of "Dancing with Max," a memoir about her son, wrote that Max became frightened during the previews, as he often does, according to The Patriot Ledger.

Then why in the blue hell do you keep taking him?
2014-03-21 01:05:08 PM  
13 votes:
How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie. Movie theatres are supposed to be open to the public. This is a kind gesture but does nothing to promote understanding, tolerance or acceptance

How sad it is that people feel that the majority of people paying for a movie should be subjected to a disturbance.  Wait until it comes out on video if your child cannot behave (irrespective of any limitation they may have).
2014-03-21 02:38:18 PM  
12 votes:
My 6 yr old son is autistic. We brought him to see the Lego movie, it was the first time he'd ever been in a theater, we weren't sure how he'd be. I sat in a spot where I could get out quickly without disturbing anyone just in case. We also brought a small toy for him to play with.
He was quieter then the kids who sat behind us.

This lady is an idiot. If her son can't handle sitting still or being quiet, and she doesn't want to rent the whole theater, wait for movies to get released onto dvd and stay home.
2014-03-21 12:58:45 PM  
9 votes:
"How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie. Movie theatres are supposed to be open to the public. This is a kind gesture but does nothing to promote understanding, tolerance or acceptance," a commenter wrote.


Tolerance and acceptance lasts about 5 minutes for me. After that, if your squalling kid (23 or not) doesn't shut his drool hole, here come my popcorn at your head.
2014-03-21 01:15:16 PM  
8 votes:
She is aware of things like DVDs, cable, Netflix, and other such things that exist? If movies and movie previews are known to agitate your "child" (who is an adult, like it or not) why on earth would you go to a theatre? One, you know the other patrons want and expect quiet. And two, why the hell are you subjecting your son to something you know is likely to agitate and exacerbate his well-documented autism?

If she was kicked out of something necessary (doctor's office, grocery store, whatever) she'd have a point, but a movie theatre is not essential to life and the reaction seems perfectly normal to me. "He's autistic" doesn't matter when people paid upwards of $10.50 to watch a movie in peace.

And again, seriously, if she knows it agitates him, why the hell would she subject him to it?
2014-03-21 01:18:52 PM  
7 votes:
I don't see why the kids age is relevant. If he's not capable of staying quiet in the movie theater, he shouldn't be in the movie theater. Crying babies, young potatoes, old potatoes. Same problem, same solution. Leave them with a babysitter.
"Yeah, of course my vuvuzela makes a lot of noise. That's what it does. Why are you being so intolerant?"


Also,
How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie.
You could try maybe renting an entire DVD instead of an entire theater. Just a suggestion...
2014-03-21 02:44:24 PM  
5 votes:
DRTFA, but as the parent of autistic kids, we know when to pick and choose our battles & situations.  And FFS, if we're the problem then it's our ass that needs to get out.  We've planned out some events carefully (and avoided others completely) because we know we're not going to enjoy the event if we have a kid (or FSM-forbid both) in sensory overload.  It's farkwad parents like this who make life rougher for the rest of us by being stubborn jackasses.


/Won the genetic lottery, yes we did.
2014-03-21 01:22:19 PM  
5 votes:
Also, I am sorry her son has autism (and it sounds severe) but that unfortunate fact does not mean that she/he have the right to do anything and everything they want and if he has an episode, just say "he has autism!" and everyone else has to say "okay, sorry, our bad, carry on, we don't need to hear the dialogue in this movie, anyway."  Or "Oh, he's kicking the crap out of the back of my chair, but he has autism, so let him, carry on."
2014-03-21 01:20:04 PM  
5 votes:
If your kid, whether from age one week to 99, is causing a disturbance in public, you remove that kid from the situation. Period. Pulling the "oh poor picked on special needs kid (adult)" ain't cutting it here.
2014-03-21 01:03:26 PM  
5 votes:
Sorry, my tolerance ends at the age of 18, and my view of your precious little snowflake as an untreated, socially retarded individual begins.

The ChrisChans of the world should be protected before they turn an adult. After, fair game.
2014-03-21 02:17:40 PM  
4 votes:

Pocket Ninja: "As Christians, we're supposed to love our neighbor as ourselves," she said.

How does she know that everyone in the theater was a Christian? There might have been some atheists in there, and they hate everybody. Throw in some Muslims and Jews, and she should just be happy that she got out of there alive.


Maybe she should do the Christian thing and keep her loud, noisy, obnoxious child out of the theater then.
2014-03-21 01:56:35 PM  
4 votes:
"As Christians, we're supposed to love our neighbor as ourselves," she said.

How does she know that everyone in the theater was a Christian? There might have been some atheists in there, and they hate everybody. Throw in some Muslims and Jews, and she should just be happy that she got out of there alive.
2014-03-21 01:53:56 PM  
4 votes:
You don't have to avoid movies if you have a loud/noisy child.  Just go super early during the week.  I take my 2 yr old and baby to kids movies sometimes (usually a while after the movie has been released) and we almost always have the theatre to ourselves.

This whole thing really just sounds like one of those scams where someone wrote something stupid/racist on a receipt for a waitress that seems to be all the fashion these days.
2014-03-21 03:19:57 PM  
3 votes:
As the father of an autistic child, I can safely say that if my kid was making a scene in a theater, I'd be dragging him out of there ASAP - not that he was raised to be like that, and he's never caused a scene.

Lady, your kid's trouble processing information like normal people is not an excuse for lax parenting. Deal with it in a proper fashion, and maybe, just maybe, your kid will have a chance to function in the real world. As it is, you will always have to babysit him, and should avoid taking him out in public.

Also, stop thinking you speak for all of us parents of autistic children. You give us all a bad public image.
2014-03-21 02:47:37 PM  
3 votes:

Unoriginal_Username: My 6 yr old son is autistic. We brought him to see the Lego movie, it was the first time he'd ever been in a theater, we weren't sure how he'd be. I sat in a spot where I could get out quickly without disturbing anyone just in case. We also brought a small toy for him to play with.
He was quieter then the kids who sat behind us.

This lady is an idiot. If her son can't handle sitting still or being quiet, and she doesn't want to rent the whole theater, wait for movies to get released onto dvd and stay home.


Alamo Drafthouse has Autism-Friendly screenings. Probably one of the biggest reason I give them a thumbs up on their zero tolerance policy.

A disability does not give you (or your family) carte blanche to be an asshole.
2014-03-21 02:41:21 PM  
3 votes:

hardinparamedic: Sorry, my tolerance ends at the age of 18, and my view of your precious little snowflake as an untreated, socially retarded individual begins.

The ChrisChans of the world should be protected before they turn an adult. After, fair game.


I really hope that you, your parents or your grandparents don't have dementia or Alzheimer's disease.

//People don't get them  until they are adults.
//People with dementia and Alzheimer's are worse than kids with autism.
2014-03-21 01:41:47 PM  
3 votes:
I'd have a psychological problem with a mother that would allow her son to do that. I'd be forced me to keep kicking her seat until the problem was resolved. Sorry, wish I could stop, but I was born like that and she should be a bit more understanding.
2014-03-21 04:38:17 PM  
2 votes:
Maybe you farkers can wiegh in on this.

Went to see a movie (Elysium I think),  and just before the movie starts they bring in a group of older (25 years or so?) of really retarded people. The smile and literally drool all over the place retarded. But they were friendly and they waved as they went by like they were in a retard parade. Well they were all pretty good during the movie, but this one guy they parked next to me in a wheelchair would hold his hands over his ears and make a really loud "ARRRRRRAAAAAAHHHHHRRRRRROOOOOOOH" noise during and part that started to get moderatly loud (of which there were many) and would keep that sound up during the noise and for about 30 seconds after until he calmed down.

His caretaker(?) sat next to him the whole time and didn't do anything about it. And this guy was farking loud. Like hard to hear the damn movie loud. Am I right to get pissed off about that? I mean I paid my money to watch the movie. I want peace while I'm watching, and *I'm* expected to be quiet. Now I'm glad the group takes the retarded people out. I think they should. But maybe to parks, playgrounds, bowling, and ice cream or other places where it's okay to be loud. If you know they are gonna be making a fark-ton of noise, maybe you shouldn't take them to the movies? If a 'normal' person was shouting and causing a disruption, they'd kick *him* out. Are we just supposed to let it slide because they got the short end of the genetic stick? I don't mind if I am grabbing some lunch at the mall and some kid is singing the potato song at the top of his lungs, it's normally noisy there anyway. I don't mind if he sits next to me as long as he's not grabbing things off my plate or throwing boogers at me. But I want to be able to watch the movie undisturbed.
2014-03-21 03:38:58 PM  
2 votes:

serpent_sky: The Goddamn Batman: n her blog post, Colson, author of "Dancing with Max," a memoir about her son, wrote that Max became frightened during the previews, as he often does, according to The Patriot Ledger.

Then why in the blue hell do you keep taking him?

three minutes off, but that was also my question. Seems borderline abusive.


She probably has some sort of sick arrogance about her with her "Everyone look at me and my drooling Aspie son! I'm so wonderful aren't I?"

And then when she found out the reality that she's seen as a selfish jerk who inflicts her son onto others, she's goes to whine to the Internet about her shame. BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG Mistake there, lady.
2014-03-21 03:34:28 PM  
2 votes:

ArcadianRefugee: Disability is no excuse for causing a disturbance.


Yeah it is. It's not an excuse for continuing a disturbance, but disabled people cause a "disturbance" if they are walking down the aisle of the theater and slip and fall, roll over someone's toes with the wheelchair, a million things that are excusable because of the disability. It's what she does afterwards, and how she tries to work around it that matters. i agree that she can just not go in until after the previews are over, which is even easier in theaters that do reserved seating, but it doesn't mean that the initial disturbance won't ever happen.

If you think that disabled people shouldn't 'cause' a disturbance ever, then you really haven't been around disabled people. Like I said, it's how she handled it, which is just going to be a bunch of 'He said, she said', since we don't have an impartial observer of any kind. Like I said in another post though, we all know how "nice" crowds of people are, so I can guess that they responded about as tolerantly as she said.
2014-03-21 03:28:35 PM  
2 votes:
As a parent of an autistic 24 year old, I can surely relate. However, I also make sure I don't put my son in situations that I know will cause him stress.
His mother should know better, in my opinion.
2014-03-21 03:25:08 PM  
2 votes:
Saw a group of chatty, pre-teen queen bees catch a large soda to the back of their casually coiffed heads during a late showing of the last Batman flick. It was a beautiful thing to behold.

Hopefully, it taught them a valuable life lesson, because it won't be the last time those little coonts take the walk of shame whilst drenched in a strange man's juices.

/PHRASING!
2014-03-21 03:18:04 PM  
2 votes:
I don't give a shiat about your kid's age, OR their handicap. If your offspring can't behave in public, then they don't belong in public. It's not up to everybody else to accommodate your broken child.
2014-03-21 03:07:24 PM  
2 votes:

serpent_sky: She is aware of things like DVDs, cable, Netflix, and other such things that exist? If movies and movie previews are known to agitate your "child" (who is an adult, like it or not) why on earth would you go to a theatre? One, you know the other patrons want and expect quiet. And two, why the hell are you subjecting your son to something you know is likely to agitate and exacerbate his well-documented autism?

If she was kicked out of something necessary (doctor's office, grocery store, whatever) she'd have a point, but a movie theatre is not essential to life and the reaction seems perfectly normal to me. "He's autistic" doesn't matter when people paid upwards of $10.50 to watch a movie in peace.

And again, seriously, if she knows it agitates him, why the hell would she subject him to it?


But, but, but, the poor snowflake (is it correct to refer to a 23-year-old as a snowflake) would be robbed of the social aspects of viewing a movie in a crowded theater?  How else will he ever get to engage in a spirited bout of yelling, screaming, crying in public?  It probably also serves the purpose of exercising her outrage gland -- how dare these other people not burdened with what I'm burdened by express the least little bit of chagrin over Junior's antics.

No, I'm not going to engage in condemnation of the people she claims became an angry mob seeking to embarass her and banish her son.  That's because that's her side of the story and, the last time I checked there are usually more than one perspective to a story.  About the only good thing that came of this was that a bunch of like-minded and like-burdened people decided to band together to have a group outing with their autistic kids.

One last question, if you're seated in a theater watching a movie you paid good money to see, what do you do when somebody begins having a loud conversation on a cell phone?  What essentially is the difference between that and having an autistic kid put on a hissy fit in the theater?
2014-03-21 02:58:10 PM  
2 votes:
No sympathy. Procreation is a choice and a gamble and you deal with what you are given in the best way possible.
1. infants - dont take them to movie theaters, sit down resturants (excluding fast food) or planes. Tough shiat no exceptions hire a sitter, if you cant afford one you cant go out. Your baby does not need to see the latest explosion filled super action movie. Its going to scare it you cruel animal.
2. Toddlers - most instances see above
3. kids - mostly ok, keep them out of my better resturants.
4. Teenagers - Lock them away for the next 15 years in a small secluded place
5. adults - fill with booze
6. Elderly - give them a Throne.... they raised their kids better than you
7. Autism - choose your environment wisely. Some of us chose to abstain from procreation. Things that came out of your body are not my responsibility. I am not going to protect, entertain, tolerate your crotch fruit. Your job... not mine.

Thee bigger issue is parents treat children as normal people. they are not. they are unprogrammed. they have no base code to form rules of their own. Parents assume the world will teach them and the world needs to tolerate this learning process and it pisses me off to no end.

I need to stop.. I am going to piss a lot of people off.
2014-03-21 02:56:33 PM  
2 votes:
I have a little kid.  I don't take him to movies.  Instead, he gets his entertainment from a thousand other venues/activities that are more appropriate.

There's no reason for this woman and her son to be any different.  Whether his social problems are due to age, medical condition, drugs, an injury, a bad attitude, or any other reason doesn't make a difference.

Recognize your limitations and live within them.  Accept that your son might not be able to see movies in a theatre.  Just like he may need to accept that he can't drive a car, work in nuclear physics, do stand up comedy on weekends, and a million other things.
2014-03-21 02:51:40 PM  
2 votes:
Your claims of disability and special needs do not at any point authorize you to deprive others of their rights or enjoyment of public spaces.
2014-03-21 02:51:06 PM  
2 votes:
//People with dementia and Alzheimer's are worse than kids with autism


Good point. Let's keep them out of the theater too.
2014-03-21 02:49:55 PM  
2 votes:
Sounds like the lady wasn't "furious" subs, she was bummed how her and her son were heckled out of the place. I don't think I could bring myself to heckle/cheer as a special needs kid and his mom try to leave the theater, you gotta bet a special kinda douchebag for that.
2014-03-21 02:45:06 PM  
2 votes:
I want to be sympathetic, I really do.

But I'm not.
2014-03-21 02:44:56 PM  
2 votes:

Unoriginal_Username: My 6 yr old son is autistic. We brought him to see the Lego movie, it was the first time he'd ever been in a theater, we weren't sure how he'd be. I sat in a spot where I could get out quickly without disturbing anyone just in case. We also brought a small toy for him to play with.
He was quieter then the kids who sat behind us.

This lady is an idiot. If her son can't handle sitting still or being quiet, and she doesn't want to rent the whole theater, wait for movies to get released onto dvd and stay home.


Parenting 101!

//Children under a certain age can't sit still or be quiet for a long length of time--bring them something to play with.
2014-03-21 02:43:27 PM  
2 votes:
I feel her pain in wanting her son to have as normal a life as possible.  It's a shame this doesn't exist for her:

katespiritu.com
2014-03-21 02:42:50 PM  
2 votes:
If you tolerate all misbehavior and demand that the world accommodates your kid's tantrums, you shouldn't be surprised at the resulting "autism".
2014-03-21 02:37:42 PM  
2 votes:

Pocket Ninja: "As Christians, we're supposed to love our neighbor as ourselves," she said.

How does she know that everyone in the theater was a Christian? There might have been some atheists in there, and they hate everybody. Throw in some Muslims and Jews, and she should just be happy that she got out of there alive.


And maybe she should love all those people who just wanted to watch a movie in peace instead of biatching about it on the Internet.
2014-03-21 08:45:52 PM  
1 votes:
KidneyStone:

In related news, the X begged me to buy her this shirt and i refused because if she wore it in public (which she would) there's simply no doubt a parent would see it.

[i1.cpcache.com image 460x460]


Wow.  Do they really sell that shirt at special needs teacher's conferences?  Because if I ever saw that on one of my kid's teachers or aides, it would be their last professional act.
2014-03-21 07:53:43 PM  
1 votes:

MythDragon: Maybe you farkers can wiegh in on this.

Went to see a movie (Elysium I think),  and just before the movie starts they bring in a group of older (25 years or so?) of really retarded people. The smile and literally drool all over the place retarded. But they were friendly and they waved as they went by like they were in a retard parade. Well they were all pretty good during the movie, but this one guy they parked next to me in a wheelchair would hold his hands over his ears and make a really loud "ARRRRRRAAAAAAHHHHHRRRRRROOOOOOOH" noise during and part that started to get moderatly loud (of which there were many) and would keep that sound up during the noise and for about 30 seconds after until he calmed down.

His caretaker(?) sat next to him the whole time and didn't do anything about it. And this guy was farking loud. Like hard to hear the damn movie loud. Am I right to get pissed off about that? I mean I paid my money to watch the movie. I want peace while I'm watching, and *I'm* expected to be quiet. Now I'm glad the group takes the retarded people out. I think they should. But maybe to parks, playgrounds, bowling, and ice cream or other places where it's okay to be loud. If you know they are gonna be making a fark-ton of noise, maybe you shouldn't take them to the movies? If a 'normal' person was shouting and causing a disruption, they'd kick *him* out. Are we just supposed to let it slide because they got the short end of the genetic stick? I don't mind if I am grabbing some lunch at the mall and some kid is singing the potato song at the top of his lungs, it's normally noisy there anyway. I don't mind if he sits next to me as long as he's not grabbing things off my plate or throwing boogers at me. But I want to be able to watch the movie undisturbed.


I used to take groups of adults on outings, and rule #1 is, if you don't have the skills to handle the experience without disrupting others, you aren't going on the field trip.

What happened to you was lazy farking handlers. Pure and simple. They parked their clients in an inappropriate place so that they could ignore them for a couple of hours. I see this all the time at the B&N near me. Two lazy assed workers haul their low functioning crew into the café where they take up easily 1/3 of the tables, toss some magazines on the table (these folks don't read) and tell them to shut up for the next hour. It's obvious the disabled folks are getting nothing out of the experience. They don't even buy them a beverage. And the B&N staff won't kick them out because can you imaging the shiatstorm?

You never, ever intentionally put your disabled clients in a position where they will be the target of scorn from the public, which happens when you force them into a situation that they can't handle.

When we wanted to take a group of lower functioning folks to the movies, we found an appropriate movie, a second run theater, or a Mommie Matinee, where behavioral expectations were much lower.
2014-03-21 07:40:01 PM  
1 votes:
It's not autistic kids (of whatever age) who are the problem.

It's their psycho moms.
2014-03-21 06:37:37 PM  
1 votes:
As the mother of an autistic adult, I believe this woman did just about everything wrong in this case.

Sensory overload happens quick during the previews of upcoming films - the clips are edited to produce a desire to see the movie, after all.  They jump multiple times in a 300 second time frame.  A theater is dark, the sound is loud and depending on where you sit, the feature can be overwhelming.

When my oldest did well on her tests for the week, we would reward her with a trip to the movies.  If she wanted to see something specifically in the theater, either my husband or I would take her and the other parent stayed home with the younger girl.  If we went on a family outing to the movies, it was to the drive in so that the younger one could more easily deal with the situation.  We'd park in the last row so if she needed her battery powered light on, it wouldn't disturb others.  Her attention would be redirected during the previews to help keep her from being overwhelmed.

If we took her out for dinner, it was generally with a large group of family and/or friends - this assured we'd get a closed off room to minimize overload and possible disruption of others' meals.  Casual meals - that's what the mall food court was for.

Granted, it's been years since I've had to do any of this.  Her biggest victory was being able to go to Walt Disney World during the Christmas/New Years holiday period without so much as a hint of a meltdown.

This mother, however, has it all wrong.  Her son told her he wanted to go.  She should have respected his wishes and left when he asked.  When my daughter would start saying "nononono", I never failed to get her out of the situation, even if it meant I had to hoist her up and walk her out.
2014-03-21 05:27:01 PM  
1 votes:

Secret Master of All Flatulence: farkingismybusiness: Secret Master of All Flatulence: farkingismybusiness: At least he wasn't shot dead for texting.

The guy in question wasn't shot dead for texting, he was shot dead for throwing popcorn.  There IS a difference.

Well at least it was justified.

I'm kind of curious about what information will be presented at trial.  IIRC, the media reported that the dead guy's SO was shot in the hand by the same shot that killed the younger guy.  It's quite possible, since apparently only one shot was fired, that the woman had her hand on her SO's chest, trying to hold him back as he was trying to harm the old guy.  We'll have to wait for the trial to find out, I guess....


I am sorry, bu t the threshold for being in honest fear for your life has to be higher than 'A man might have been walking towards me in a  crowded theater after throwing popcorn at me'.  This is murder, plain and simple.

If I can legitimately shoot someone because I am afraid that the situation could potentially escalate, and there are possible scenarios whereby my life was in danger, you are going to see a lot more shooting.  People will start spraying bullets into the cars of random teens because they were afraid that there might be a chance of an escalation.

I have a gun for home defense, but have no interest in carrying one.  I can usually avoid most situations where a gun would be needed for self defense, and with no gun available, I can usually find alternatives, including de-escalation, to situations that don't involve killing a guy who was throwing popcorn or playing rap music.

/Not really ranting at you, but at the bad gun owners.
2014-03-21 05:06:50 PM  
1 votes:

Madame Ovary: AMC Sensory Friendly Films  http://www.amctheatres.com/programs/sensory-friendly-films

They lower the volume, brighten the lights and skip the previews.


A friend of mine helped put together an autistic-friendly production of The Lion King, basically the same approach.  It was really great for the kids and their parents.
2014-03-21 04:55:28 PM  
1 votes:

Miss Alexandra: JesusJuice: Mikey1969: JesusJuice: How did they draw it out? If they hadn't made her feel so unwelcome, she probably would have stayed. She gave them the choice of either being mean to her or having their movie experience ruined.

You really think one person stood up for the crowd and said "Hey, you're being too loud"? You know exactly how these things play out, everyone wants to talk shiat, and then when the woman says something back, everyone else wants to answer back, then they spend more time verbally 'high fiving' each other, then someone else feels that their particularly witty rejoinder didn't get the attention it deserved, so THEY pipe up, and then someone else chimes in, etc... I can guarantee you the shiat talking went on longer than this dude's initial freakout would have lasted.

It doesn't mean that it wasn't a disruption, it just takes someone incredibly naive to assume that this shiat didn't go on 10 times longer than it needed to because everyone wanted to talk a little more trash.

If it had been just one person giving her shiat she could have dismissed them as a lone asshole. She can't really ignore the whole theater telling her to GTFO. It sounds like there were multiple instances before people got aggressive, so I suspect they escalated to the level needed to make her leave.

I also wonder if she didn't egg things on.  Remember we're only hearing *her* story.


This whole thing stinks of a ploy for her to get attention.

She knows he's afraid of previews, but takes him anyway.

She ignored his repeated requests to leave.

She argues with the audience and tries to "explain" her son's autistic.

She makes a big stink about it afterwards.

...

I call AW. Borderline Munchausens by proxy since she's hurting her kid to get attention for herself.
2014-03-21 04:08:38 PM  
1 votes:

elvindeath: I once took the family on a vacation to Disney World.  We had reservations for lunch at a restaurant that, while not the most expensive in the "world", was going to cost us about $150 for a family of four.  We were seated next to an man or woman who looked to be in the 50s, who had a child of about 12 with them who was in a wheelchair, and clearly had multiple issues.  The two parents looked absolutely exhausted.  Two minutes after we were seated, the child started screaming / moaning so loud that I couldn't hear anyone at my table speaking.  It continued for 10 minutes, and the parents made no move to leave or attempt to calm the child (if that was even possible).  We sat there and had our lunch, and it was one of the worst experiences of my life.  Looking back, I should have said screw political correctness, and demanded to be moved or just left.

I don't care what your situation - or the situation of your child - if you cannot leave the house without your child ruining the environment of everyone around him/her, you do not leave your house with your child.


There is nothing wrong with discretely asking the host to reseat you.  Just because you don't want to be an ass and condemn or judge the challeneged family doesn't mean that you should have to endure it if accomodations can be made.
2014-03-21 03:51:36 PM  
1 votes:

433: JuggleGeek: If they can't cope with being out in public, then I'm sorry, but you can't take them out in public.

ArcadianRefugee: If she can't control her "kid" then she shouldn't take him out in public and put him into situations where he is known to freak out.

I don't think it is fair to deny the individual the chance to enjoy things like a movie.  Ideally, if it is seen that it will be trouble, then exiting the event is the thing to do.  Think of a wailing infant in a restaurant.  The woman in the article seemed to know to go when appropriate, though perhaps she stayed a little long.  It is unfortunate that things escalated as they did, it could have been handled better by all parties.  In light of the situation and how it unfolded, the solution of renting the place out for a movie night for children and young adults with disabilities is excellent.

It is not fair for any of us farkers to tell this woman what she should and should not do.  Who are we to instruct another, especially on the internet?  Finding the root cause of the problem and searching for an alternative is best, and I believe we have enough people with enough experience in these areas to be able to do just that.


Notice my addendum: and put him into situations where he is known to freak out.
From the Daily Mail article: Max shrieked 'I want to go home,' during the first preview and said it again once the film started.
From this article: Max became frightened during the previews, as he often does....
Taking someone autistic out in public in general is a good thing; you want to expose them to the world because they will eventually have to live in it. Taking them into situations where they have repeatedly shown to be uncomfortable is not OK and just bothers them and those around them.

He likes movies, he should be able to see movies, but there are ways to let him have those experiences without annoying everyone.

Also, her blog post is full of "let's make this as colorful as possible" hyperbole.
Ant
2014-03-21 03:49:01 PM  
1 votes:

allylloyd: People with dementia and Alzheimer's are worse than kids with autism.


Don't take them to movie theaters then.
2014-03-21 03:39:24 PM  
1 votes:

R.A.Danny: Sin_City_Superhero: It's not up to everybody else to accommodate your broken child.

And now I'm on the mom's side.


Sorry bro, but society has rules. If your kid can't abide by the rules of a polite society, then keep 'em at home, until such time that they can. Why should 100 people be inconvenienced because one person can't follow the rules?
Ant
2014-03-21 03:35:17 PM  
1 votes:
How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie.

How sad that the other 99% of the people in the theater had to pay to hear your kid talk over the movie.
2014-03-21 03:33:34 PM  
1 votes:
But when Colson's stepmother, Patty, tried to explain that Max is autistic, the family apparently received little sympathy.

"I know he is, but why should the rest of us have to suffer?"


THIS!'d in every possible way! If you know your spawn is going to be a disruptive yowling ree-ree, then don't inflict it upon a whole theater full of innocent people, who have paid money to watch a movie, NOT be irritated by your child's antics. It's a movie theater, not a short bus!
Ant
2014-03-21 03:33:09 PM  
1 votes:
Goddammit! I'm sorry that your son is autistic, but nobody who goes to a movie should have to deal with loud, obnoxious people, no matter what the cause of their obnoxiousness. I only take my son to movies he actually wants to see, and he knows that his mom and I won't hesitate to take him out of the theater if he talks or makes noise during the movie. Luckily, we've never had to do this.

...and stop bringing babies to the movie theater too!! When did this become OK?

/parent, but not OK with this shiat
2014-03-21 03:28:01 PM  
1 votes:

serpent_sky: She is aware of things like DVDs, cable, Netflix, and other such things that exist? If movies and movie previews are known to agitate your "child" (who is an adult, like it or not) why on earth would you go to a theatre? One, you know the other patrons want and expect quiet. And two, why the hell are you subjecting your son to something you know is likely to agitate and exacerbate his well-documented autism?

If she was kicked out of something necessary (doctor's office, grocery store, whatever) she'd have a point, but a movie theatre is not essential to life and the reaction seems perfectly normal to me. "He's autistic" doesn't matter when people paid upwards of $10.50 to watch a movie in peace.

And again, seriously, if she knows it agitates him, why the hell would she subject him to it?


Because come hell or high weather, he enjoy live a life with all the small pleasures normal people have whether he likes it or not.
2014-03-21 03:23:11 PM  
1 votes:
If the guy melts down during the previews, wait for those to finish before you go in.
Sit in the back, near an exit.
If he acts up, time-out in the lobby until he gets it together.
Acts up three times then home you go.
He'll learn.

/Behavioral psychologist
2014-03-21 03:19:55 PM  
1 votes:
Sooo.... what "often happens" happened... yet it was unpredictable.... and most of the story is sourced from "The Blaze"?

loveforsuccessfulwomen.com
2014-03-21 03:07:59 PM  
1 votes:

Mikey1969: Her stepmother tried to explain to patrons - who hurled insults - that Max had autism to no avail, The Blaze reported.

Yeah, I'd want them to quit disrupting the movie, but if this is how it played out, then the people in the theater were being bigger pricks than the situation warranted. Especially since hurling insults just exacerbates the situation, thereby drawing it out AND making things louder. Because nothing says "shut up. I want to see the movie" like starting a 10 minute screaming match. If someone can't figure out how to deal with an autistic kid freaking out, they really shouldn't try to pitch in. Nothing makes them get louder and more scared than screaming at them does.

As for this woman, I understand she wants to take her son to the movie. That's fine, but you can hit a matinee on anything but opening weekend, and stand a good chance of finding an empty auditorium. Maybe you should try that next time? She doesn't even have to go during the week. Hit that Sunday ll am showing, and if you think that he might have problems, you will quite possibly be the only one in  the theater and can still see the movie, but not disturb a bunch of angry people.


How did they draw it out? If they hadn't made her feel so unwelcome, she probably would have stayed. She gave them the choice of either being mean to her or having their movie experience ruined.
2014-03-21 03:06:31 PM  
1 votes:

serpent_sky: She is aware of things like DVDs, cable, Netflix, and other such things that exist? If movies and movie previews are known to agitate your "child" (who is an adult, like it or not) why on earth would you go to a theatre? One, you know the other patrons want and expect quiet. And two, why the hell are you subjecting your son to something you know is likely to agitate and exacerbate his well-documented autism?

If she was kicked out of something necessary (doctor's office, grocery store, whatever) she'd have a point, but a movie theatre is not essential to life and the reaction seems perfectly normal to me. "He's autistic" doesn't matter when people paid upwards of $10.50 to watch a movie in peace.

And again, seriously, if she knows it agitates him, why the hell would she subject him to it?


10.50???? shiat. Imax 3d is $19.50 in San D.
2014-03-21 03:05:36 PM  
1 votes:
Renee should of bought them one of these:

shop.mcccomputers.com

Or, if on a budget:

cdn.twentytwowords.com
2014-03-21 03:04:28 PM  
1 votes:
On one hand, people should be considerate to others and not bring someone into the theater who is likely to disturb other paying customers.

On the other hand, people should be considerate and not insult or harass people who are unintentionally causing a disturbance.

In general, people should be considerate.

But this is America...Who the fark am I kidding? It's the blessed land of "be an asshole to everyone."
2014-03-21 03:03:57 PM  
1 votes:
 a movie night for people with special needs.

Like people who bring their own bucket of KFC, talk at the screen, talk on the cell phone, and Shush you back?
I'm not saying anything else about them, because it was too dark to make out any features.
2014-03-21 03:03:23 PM  
1 votes:

OtherLittleGuy: A disability does not give you (or your family) carte blanche to be an asshole


Amen, Brother.  A-FRELLING-MEN.
2014-03-21 03:03:00 PM  
1 votes:
Wait for it to come out on DVD lady.
2014-03-21 03:02:52 PM  
1 votes:
Out of respect for others, you want me to endure a ruined movie experience? How about out respect for others, you accept it's not appropriate for such a disabled person to be disruptive in certain situations? I don't think that's rude or unethical to insist on that. Sorry your kid is autistic.But you should respect that I'm not, and maybe rent a movie instead.
2014-03-21 03:02:08 PM  
1 votes:

allylloyd: Some of you must really love when old white men go to the movies and shot people for texting...


No, but we do love when English is spoken.
2014-03-21 02:56:58 PM  
1 votes:
I'm told that the screaming "autistic" child is just overwhelmed by stimuli, so why did you bring him to a movie theater? I've seen them freaking out in an Apple store, I can't imagine what a space designed to fully engage your senses would do.

These ones that freak out seem to be about as engaged with their surroundings as someone with welding goggles and ear muffs. Why not try matching their inputs to that?

/a sign of an affluent society
2014-03-21 02:56:47 PM  
1 votes:
Why do I get the feeling that mommy dearest has been putting her child in situations like this for years. The kind of woman who wraps her self in self righteousness and victimhood. At the expense of her actual child of course.
2014-03-21 02:53:21 PM  
1 votes:
Tolerance and acceptance lasts about 5 minutes for me. After that, if your squalling kid (23 or not) doesn't shut his drool hole, here come my popcorn at your head.

Sure thing tough guy, and you'll look real funny trying to remove that popcorn bucket out of butthole 3 minutes later...


You call him a "tough guy" for saying he'd throw popcorn then try to scare him with an violent beatdown???
Are you special, too?
2014-03-21 02:52:09 PM  
1 votes:
Her stepmother tried to explain to patrons - who hurled insults - that Max had autism to no avail, The Blaze reported.

Yeah, I'd want them to quit disrupting the movie, but if this is how it played out, then the people in the theater were being bigger pricks than the situation warranted. Especially since hurling insults just exacerbates the situation, thereby drawing it out AND making things louder. Because nothing says "shut up. I want to see the movie" like starting a 10 minute screaming match. If someone can't figure out how to deal with an autistic kid freaking out, they really shouldn't try to pitch in. Nothing makes them get louder and more scared than screaming at them does.

As for this woman, I understand she wants to take her son to the movie. That's fine, but you can hit a matinee on anything but opening weekend, and stand a good chance of finding an empty auditorium. Maybe you should try that next time? She doesn't even have to go during the week. Hit that Sunday ll am showing, and if you think that he might have problems, you will quite possibly be the only one in  the theater and can still see the movie, but not disturb a bunch of angry people.
2014-03-21 02:51:56 PM  
1 votes:
Who's worse at the movies, black people or autistic people?
And don't give me any crap about black people at the movies, even Eddie Murphy knew it to be true.
2014-03-21 02:51:22 PM  
1 votes:

The Crepes of Wrath: She should feel grateful she even has a child.  A couple hundred years ago, he would have been tied to a tree to feed hungry wolves.


She would never tell anyone this, but her favorite movie opening was 300.

content8.flixster.com
2014-03-21 02:49:17 PM  
1 votes:
The only person I feel sympathy for here is the autistic son.

He has a history of meltdowns yet she took him to the theater anyway, which is not fair to him or the rest of the paying audience. If he can't handle the situation try, oh I dunno... watching movies at home, maybe?? Or go when the theater is empty (weekday, matinee, whatever) and time your arrival so you miss the previews. Hell, I'm neurotypical and I do that to avoid disruptive people so I can actually enjoy the movie!
2014-03-21 02:47:12 PM  
1 votes:

gopher321: "How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie. Movie theatres are supposed to be open to the public. This is a kind gesture but does nothing to promote understanding, tolerance or acceptance," a commenter wrote.


Tolerance and acceptance lasts about 5 minutes for me. After that, if your squalling kid (23 or not) doesn't shut his drool hole, here come my popcorn at your head.


Sure thing tough guy, and you'll look real funny trying to remove that popcorn bucket out of butthole 3 minutes later...
2014-03-21 02:46:59 PM  
1 votes:

The_Sponge: hb0mb: and we almost always have the theatre to ourselves.


CSB:

The last time I had a theater to myself was an early Sunday morning showing of the Evil Dead remake.  Holy f*ck that was creepy....almost wanted to head straight to church.

/Got my money's worth.


CSB II -

I was travelling and got the business finished early.  There was a theater right by the hotel, rainy day, they were showing a Sci Fi movie I wanted to see, why not.  Almost empty theater, stadium seating, maybe a 300 seat place.  There was 1 other patron way at the top.  I sat in the middle about 1/2 way down, lounged back and was enjoying the previews.  2 folks come in, they look around, wander up, and literally sit right in front of me.  Not a row down, but right in front.  Sort of creepy.  I move back a couple of rows.
2014-03-21 02:45:57 PM  
1 votes:
If Mongo can't sit nice, keep him in his crate.
2014-03-21 02:45:25 PM  
1 votes:
Give this kid a gun.
An armed society is a polite society.
2014-03-21 02:43:47 PM  
1 votes:
The upside is they didn't call the cops
2014-03-21 02:42:58 PM  
1 votes:
Doesn't matter to me if they're autistic.  If you know your child is going to disturb someone by being noisy, come up with an alternative.  Rent something.  That's what I did before my mildly autistic son learned to settle down.

He sits quietly in church now.  If you give him a pad of paper to draw on, better yet--he's able to listen and draw at the same time.  And you get some nice artwork.

And this woman apparently hasn't figured out that loving your neighbor also entails not inconveniencing them needlessly.
2014-03-21 02:42:57 PM  
1 votes:

gopher321: "How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie. Movie theatres are supposed to be open to the public. This is a kind gesture but does nothing to promote understanding, tolerance or acceptance," a commenter wrote.


Tolerance and acceptance lasts about 5 minutes for me. After that, if your squalling kid (23 or not) doesn't shut his drool hole, here come my popcorn at your head.


shiat man, I've had ADULTS kicked out of theaters, much less kids.

LOVE Alamo Drafthouse Cinema, they're real damn good about kicking out disturbances.
2014-03-21 02:41:45 PM  
1 votes:
At least he wasn't shot dead for texting.
433 [TotalFark]
2014-03-21 02:41:29 PM  
1 votes:
That was a T-H-E-A-T-E-R, for movies, not a T-H-E-A-T-R-E, for stage.  Unless Canada has different rules for that.
2014-03-21 02:40:32 PM  
1 votes:

gopher321: "How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie. Movie theatres are supposed to be open to the public. This is a kind gesture but does nothing to promote understanding, tolerance or acceptance," a commenter wrote.


Tolerance and acceptance lasts about 5 minutes for me. After that, if your squalling kid (23 or not) doesn't shut his drool hole, here come my popcorn at your head.


Wow, you are a true bad ass.
2014-03-21 02:08:40 PM  
1 votes:
Dubbed "Movie with Max," some 300 people, including many with special needs, will fill a local theatre at the end of the month to watch The Muppets Most Wanted.


Remember that scene in Gremlins where they were watching Snow White?  Who wants to wager it will be just like that?

/Aisle seat, please.
2014-03-21 01:55:44 PM  
1 votes:
 
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