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(CBC)   Mother furious that her child [23] was harassed out of a theatre simply because he's autistic [and was causing a disruption]   (cbc.ca) divider line 291
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2014-03-21 03:05:36 PM  
Renee should of bought them one of these:

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Or, if on a budget:

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2014-03-21 03:05:47 PM  
She really shouldn't have exposed her autistic son to all those unvaccinated folks anyway.  It sounds like it was practically a measles orgy.
 
2014-03-21 03:06:31 PM  

serpent_sky: She is aware of things like DVDs, cable, Netflix, and other such things that exist? If movies and movie previews are known to agitate your "child" (who is an adult, like it or not) why on earth would you go to a theatre? One, you know the other patrons want and expect quiet. And two, why the hell are you subjecting your son to something you know is likely to agitate and exacerbate his well-documented autism?

If she was kicked out of something necessary (doctor's office, grocery store, whatever) she'd have a point, but a movie theatre is not essential to life and the reaction seems perfectly normal to me. "He's autistic" doesn't matter when people paid upwards of $10.50 to watch a movie in peace.

And again, seriously, if she knows it agitates him, why the hell would she subject him to it?


10.50???? shiat. Imax 3d is $19.50 in San D.
 
2014-03-21 03:07:24 PM  

serpent_sky: She is aware of things like DVDs, cable, Netflix, and other such things that exist? If movies and movie previews are known to agitate your "child" (who is an adult, like it or not) why on earth would you go to a theatre? One, you know the other patrons want and expect quiet. And two, why the hell are you subjecting your son to something you know is likely to agitate and exacerbate his well-documented autism?

If she was kicked out of something necessary (doctor's office, grocery store, whatever) she'd have a point, but a movie theatre is not essential to life and the reaction seems perfectly normal to me. "He's autistic" doesn't matter when people paid upwards of $10.50 to watch a movie in peace.

And again, seriously, if she knows it agitates him, why the hell would she subject him to it?


But, but, but, the poor snowflake (is it correct to refer to a 23-year-old as a snowflake) would be robbed of the social aspects of viewing a movie in a crowded theater?  How else will he ever get to engage in a spirited bout of yelling, screaming, crying in public?  It probably also serves the purpose of exercising her outrage gland -- how dare these other people not burdened with what I'm burdened by express the least little bit of chagrin over Junior's antics.

No, I'm not going to engage in condemnation of the people she claims became an angry mob seeking to embarass her and banish her son.  That's because that's her side of the story and, the last time I checked there are usually more than one perspective to a story.  About the only good thing that came of this was that a bunch of like-minded and like-burdened people decided to band together to have a group outing with their autistic kids.

One last question, if you're seated in a theater watching a movie you paid good money to see, what do you do when somebody begins having a loud conversation on a cell phone?  What essentially is the difference between that and having an autistic kid put on a hissy fit in the theater?
 
2014-03-21 03:07:28 PM  
So the outcome is that normal moviegoers get to have a normal moviegoing experience, and moviegoers with special needs get to have a special screening where they aren't inconveniencing or behind harassed by others.

Sounds like everyone wins to me.
 
2014-03-21 03:07:58 PM  

space1999: Many years ago, I saw some zombie movie (I think it was one of the Resident Evil movies) in the theater. To my surprise, it apparently was also movie night for some group of mentally handicapped individuals. There must have been at least 20 of them, and they were spread out throughout the seats, so I was surrounded by them.

Throughout the whole movie, these individuals would shuffle back-and-forth in their seats and make occasional low moaning sounds.

It was awesome.


CSB!
 
2014-03-21 03:07:59 PM  

Mikey1969: Her stepmother tried to explain to patrons - who hurled insults - that Max had autism to no avail, The Blaze reported.

Yeah, I'd want them to quit disrupting the movie, but if this is how it played out, then the people in the theater were being bigger pricks than the situation warranted. Especially since hurling insults just exacerbates the situation, thereby drawing it out AND making things louder. Because nothing says "shut up. I want to see the movie" like starting a 10 minute screaming match. If someone can't figure out how to deal with an autistic kid freaking out, they really shouldn't try to pitch in. Nothing makes them get louder and more scared than screaming at them does.

As for this woman, I understand she wants to take her son to the movie. That's fine, but you can hit a matinee on anything but opening weekend, and stand a good chance of finding an empty auditorium. Maybe you should try that next time? She doesn't even have to go during the week. Hit that Sunday ll am showing, and if you think that he might have problems, you will quite possibly be the only one in  the theater and can still see the movie, but not disturb a bunch of angry people.


How did they draw it out? If they hadn't made her feel so unwelcome, she probably would have stayed. She gave them the choice of either being mean to her or having their movie experience ruined.
 
2014-03-21 03:08:27 PM  

hardinparamedic: Sorry, my tolerance ends at the age of 18, and my view of your precious little snowflake as an untreated, socially retarded individual begins.

The ChrisChans of the world should be protected before they turn an adult. After, fair game.


Oh god, ChrisChan. That dude's a mix of creepy, sick, and hilariously pathetic.
/I'm tempted to write a post-apocalyptic story about CWC surviving the apocalypse. It'd just one big slide of humiliation for him. Not realizing that a horrific plague is killing most of the population until the power goes out, his mom just abandoning him to evacuate, him declaring himself mayor of his abandoned town, getting shot with a taser by another group of survivors after calling them "homos", getting locked in a dog crate by the other group while they mock his comics, getting out of the crate and deciding to head west to find his girlfriend and found "New CWCville", finding a cool car and supplies, finding a girl who wants to have sex with him, getting dumped naked out of his car at gunpoint by said girl who proceeds to drive away with his stuff, wandering westwards slowly losing what sanity he has left, holing up in a trailer drawing increasingly crazy "sonichu" comics, and finally attempting to rape a survivor who entered his trailer, only to be shot and the camp stove he was cooking on to be knocked over. As he lays bleeding on the floor he starts laughing hysterically, oblivious to the spreading fire. The laughs soon turn to screams, and then silence, save for the hiss and crackle of the fire.
 
2014-03-21 03:08:47 PM  

sunnewswebguy: and you'll look real funny trying to remove that popcorn bucket out of butthole 3 minutes later...


Are autistics have tard strongs?
 
2014-03-21 03:08:59 PM  
www.jeremyriad.com

Could alway just put on a papit show.
 
2014-03-21 03:09:12 PM  

WhiskeySticks: This is awful thinking, but right away I thought of making these "movies with max" events a television show in the same format as Mystery Science Theater, silhouettes and all.


In the not-too-distant future...
 
2014-03-21 03:09:20 PM  
allylloyd:
I really hope that you, your parents or your grandparents don't have dementia or Alzheimer's disease.
//People don't get them until they are adults.
//People with dementia and Alzheimer's are worse than kids with autism.


And I imagine their sane caretakers avoid taking them to public movie theaters if they're likely to cause a disturbance.
 
2014-03-21 03:09:43 PM  
Does he have his shots??
 
2014-03-21 03:12:10 PM  
www.photo-dictionary.com
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-03-21 03:12:28 PM  

Sybarite: 433: That was a T-H-E-A-T-E-R, for movies, not a T-H-E-A-T-R-E, for stage.  Unless Canada has different rules for that.


American English is the only place where the theater spelling is standard, but there is absolutely no rule differentiating between the two spellings. People like to make stuff up like "theater" is the building but "theatre" is the art or one spelling is for movies and one if for plays, but there's really no basis for any of that.


I stand corrected and informed.  The movie/play variation is standard in my area.  "Ye Olde Theatre" would still get under my skin if it existed.
 
2014-03-21 03:13:18 PM  

R.A.Danny: allylloyd: Some of you must really love when old white men go to the movies and shot people for texting...

No, but we do love when English is spoken.


I don't think most of you would know proper English grammar, if it slapped you in the face.


Let's eat Grandma!  or  Let's eat, Grandma!
 
2014-03-21 03:13:24 PM  
Throw her in jail for abusing the handicapped. Obviously she enjoys torturing the dude.
 
2014-03-21 03:13:35 PM  

serial_crusher:
"Yeah, of course my vuvuzela makes a lot of noise. That's what it does. Why are you being so intolerant?"


www.joblo.com
 
2014-03-21 03:13:37 PM  

ToastTheRabbit: I need to stop.. I am going to piss a lot of people off.


Piss me off?  shiat, I want to subscribe to your newsletter...
 
2014-03-21 03:14:34 PM  

Unoriginal_Username: My 6 yr old son is autistic. We brought him to see the Lego movie, it was the first time he'd ever been in a theater, we weren't sure how he'd be. I sat in a spot where I could get out quickly without disturbing anyone just in case. We also brought a small toy for him to play with.
He was quieter then the kids who sat behind us.

This lady is an idiot. If her son can't handle sitting still or being quiet, and she doesn't want to rent the whole theater, wait for movies to get released onto dvd and stay home.



Thank you for posting that as someone with some experience on the subject.

I wanted to say what you said, but lack "standing" if you know what I mean.
 
2014-03-21 03:15:29 PM  
It would be a shame if their Muppet movie were to be accidentally swapped out for something else just so someone could watch the reactions of all involved for a cheap laugh.

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s3.amazonaws.com
 
2014-03-21 03:15:35 PM  

JesusJuice: How did they draw it out? If they hadn't made her feel so unwelcome, she probably would have stayed. She gave them the choice of either being mean to her or having their movie experience ruined.


You really think one person stood up for the crowd and said "Hey, you're being too loud"? You know exactly how these things play out, everyone wants to talk shiat, and then when the woman says something back, everyone else wants to answer back, then they spend more time verbally 'high fiving' each other, then someone else feels that their particularly witty rejoinder didn't get the attention it deserved, so THEY pipe up, and then someone else chimes in, etc... I can guarantee you the shiat talking went on longer than this dude's initial freakout would have lasted.

It doesn't mean that it wasn't a disruption, it just takes someone incredibly naive to assume that this shiat didn't go on 10 times longer than it needed to because everyone wanted to talk a little more trash.
 
2014-03-21 03:16:33 PM  
the big question is, what happens when the parents pass away and the kid goes out alone?
as a parent you are supposed to get your kids ready to be on their own and know how to act in public.
my sister worked in a store where a "special" female would come in to the grocery store and use the produce....
the cops said that they could not do anything.
at least the store would remove all the used produce and throw it away.
true story, now how do you feel that everyone should be out and free?
never found out why the parent would bring them back to the store.
 
2014-03-21 03:17:17 PM  

Miss Alexandra: Doesn't matter to me if they're autistic.  If you know your child is going to disturb someone by being noisy, come up with an alternative.  Rent something.  That's what I did before my mildly autistic son learned to settle down.

He sits quietly in church now.  If you give him a pad of paper to draw on, better yet--he's able to listen and draw at the same time.  And you get some nice artwork.

And this woman apparently hasn't figured out that loving your neighbor also entails not inconveniencing them needlessly.


Yes, but you're a racist homophobic creationist, so who gives a flying farking rentboy's asscum what you think? Seriously.

Away and organise your daugher's 'purity ball', woman. Shame on you.
 
2014-03-21 03:17:36 PM  
Disability is no excuse for causing a disturbance.

In her blog post, Colson ... wrote that Max became frightened during the previews, as he often does

Solution: do not let him watch the previews. Have the theatre "hold" two seats for you after you've purchased your tickets and stand with him outside the theatre until the previews are done.

Mikey1969: If someone can't figure out how to deal with an autistic kidadult freaking out, they really shouldn't try to pitch inbe responsible for them.


If she can't control her "kid" then she shouldn't take him out in public and put him into situations where he is known to freak out.

Sorry. I have a friend with multiple autistic kids (one fairly manageable). She is smart enough to realize that the "problem" is hers to deal with, not everyone else's. She's also smart enough to (a) not put her kids (autistic or not) in situations that have historically made them uncomfortable and (b) remove them from any situations that do. BEFORE it gets on people's nerves and they start hurling insults.

sunnewswebguy: Sure thing tough guy, and you'll look real funny trying to remove that popcorn bucket out of butthole 3 minutes later...


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2014-03-21 03:17:49 PM  

serial_crusher: I don't see why the kids age is relevant. If he's not capable of staying quiet in the movie theater, he shouldn't be in the movie theater.


The "kid" didn't even want to be there.  Apparently, that's what caused the disagreement with the other people who went to watch the movie.  He kept asking his mom to take him home.  He asked during the previews, and he was still asking after the movie started.

Taking him home makes him happy, and it makes everyone else in the theater happy - except for the biatch of a mom.  I doubt she's ever happy.

allylloyd: I really hope that you, your parents or your grandparents don't have dementia or Alzheimer's disease.


My mom has Alzheimer's.  It's horrible, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.  (Well, maybe some of the Westboro Baptist people.)

Her short term memory is pretty much gone, which is what most people know about Alzheimer's, but that's not the worst part.  The dementia comes and goes.  She has periods where she's great and other than the short term memory, she can go places, do things, etc and you wouldn't know she's sick.  Other times, nothing she says makes sense and hardly anyone can stand to be around her.  And sometimes it gets so bad she has to be in the hospital.  She's on a whole bunch of medication, and from time to time, they have to adjust what they are giving her.

My point is, I understand about someone who has dementia or a similar illness.  But I do not believe that gives you a right to take them out to the movies and ruin it for everyone else.  If they can't cope with being out in public, then I'm sorry, but you can't take them out in public.
 
2014-03-21 03:18:04 PM  
I don't give a shiat about your kid's age, OR their handicap. If your offspring can't behave in public, then they don't belong in public. It's not up to everybody else to accommodate your broken child.
 
2014-03-21 03:18:27 PM  

moike: ToastTheRabbit: I need to stop.. I am going to piss a lot of people off.

Piss me off?  shiat, I want to subscribe to your newsletter...


http://www.youtube.com/user/RantingGryphonStudio/featured
 
2014-03-21 03:18:54 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: It's not up to everybody else to accommodate your broken child.


And now I'm on the mom's side.
 
2014-03-21 03:19:00 PM  
I can't imagine what it must be like to have a kid like that. But that's easier to imagine than why some jerk would insist that everyone else's lives must be disputed over their little snowflake.

So I'm not sure I buy the story.
 
2014-03-21 03:19:55 PM  
Sooo.... what "often happens" happened... yet it was unpredictable.... and most of the story is sourced from "The Blaze"?

loveforsuccessfulwomen.com
 
2014-03-21 03:19:57 PM  
As the father of an autistic child, I can safely say that if my kid was making a scene in a theater, I'd be dragging him out of there ASAP - not that he was raised to be like that, and he's never caused a scene.

Lady, your kid's trouble processing information like normal people is not an excuse for lax parenting. Deal with it in a proper fashion, and maybe, just maybe, your kid will have a chance to function in the real world. As it is, you will always have to babysit him, and should avoid taking him out in public.

Also, stop thinking you speak for all of us parents of autistic children. You give us all a bad public image.
 
2014-03-21 03:20:38 PM  

uttertosh: Miss Alexandra: Doesn't matter to me if they're autistic.  If you know your child is going to disturb someone by being noisy, come up with an alternative.  Rent something.  That's what I did before my mildly autistic son learned to settle down.

He sits quietly in church now.  If you give him a pad of paper to draw on, better yet--he's able to listen and draw at the same time.  And you get some nice artwork.

And this woman apparently hasn't figured out that loving your neighbor also entails not inconveniencing them needlessly.

Yes, but you're a racist homophobic creationist, so who gives a flying farking rentboy's asscum what you think? Seriously.

Away and organise your daugher's 'purity ball', woman. Shame on you.


I don't have a daughter.

Apparently you give a "flying fark," else you wouldn't have replied.

Go take some vitamin D3.  Maybe it'll improve your attitude.  Or lay off the aspartame.
 
2014-03-21 03:20:43 PM  
After reading some of these comments, I hope you boys are practicing CONDOM SENSE.


//Better  yet, get the vasectomy.
 
2014-03-21 03:21:13 PM  

Pocket Ninja: "As Christians, we're supposed to love our neighbor as ourselves," she said.

How does she know that everyone in the theater was a Christian? There might have been some atheists in there, and they hate everybody. Throw in some Muslims and Jews, and she should just be happy that she got out of there alive.


Are Christians even allowed to go to the movies?  Jesus never went to a movie.
 
2014-03-21 03:22:58 PM  

uttertosh: Christian outrage is best outrage.


How much Christin outrage and sympathy would she show if the kid were harassed for being gay?

The mother is n idiot, she should have taken him home.
 
2014-03-21 03:23:11 PM  
If the guy melts down during the previews, wait for those to finish before you go in.
Sit in the back, near an exit.
If he acts up, time-out in the lobby until he gets it together.
Acts up three times then home you go.
He'll learn.

/Behavioral psychologist
 
2014-03-21 03:24:42 PM  

allylloyd: R.A.Danny: allylloyd: Some of you must really love when old white men go to the movies and shot people for texting...

No, but we do love when English is spoken.

I don't think most of you would know proper English grammar, if it slapped you in the face.


Let's eat Grandma!  or  Let's eat, Grandma!


I will shot you in the nuts.
 
2014-03-21 03:25:08 PM  
Saw a group of chatty, pre-teen queen bees catch a large soda to the back of their casually coiffed heads during a late showing of the last Batman flick. It was a beautiful thing to behold.

Hopefully, it taught them a valuable life lesson, because it won't be the last time those little coonts take the walk of shame whilst drenched in a strange man's juices.

/PHRASING!
 
2014-03-21 03:25:16 PM  

shtychkn: I feel her pain in wanting her son to have as normal a life as possible.  It's a shame this doesn't exist for her:

[katespiritu.com image 850x1062]


That cartoon is a LIE about old people. They SUCK at watching movies. 1. They constantly open noisy hard candy, crinkling the wrappers as long as possible. 2. They make "awww" sounds at anything that draws an emotional response, especially anything that's "cute." 3. They ask their less hard-of-hearing spouses to repeat dialogue they didn't catch because they are deaf old farts.

Lesson learned: Do not go to the Sunday afternoon matinee of an indy film if you don't want to start hating old people.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-03-21 03:25:54 PM  

JuggleGeek: If they can't cope with being out in public, then I'm sorry, but you can't take them out in public.


ArcadianRefugee: If she can't control her "kid" then she shouldn't take him out in public and put him into situations where he is known to freak out.


I don't think it is fair to deny the individual the chance to enjoy things like a movie.  Ideally, if it is seen that it will be trouble, then exiting the event is the thing to do.  Think of a wailing infant in a restaurant.  The woman in the article seemed to know to go when appropriate, though perhaps she stayed a little long.  It is unfortunate that things escalated as they did, it could have been handled better by all parties.  In light of the situation and how it unfolded, the solution of renting the place out for a movie night for children and young adults with disabilities is excellent.

It is not fair for any of us farkers to tell this woman what she should and should not do.  Who are we to instruct another, especially on the internet?  Finding the root cause of the problem and searching for an alternative is best, and I believe we have enough people with enough experience in these areas to be able to do just that.
 
2014-03-21 03:27:07 PM  

gopher321: here come my popcorn at your head.


Just don't do that in Florida.  Theater might get a little shooty.
 
2014-03-21 03:28:01 PM  

serpent_sky: She is aware of things like DVDs, cable, Netflix, and other such things that exist? If movies and movie previews are known to agitate your "child" (who is an adult, like it or not) why on earth would you go to a theatre? One, you know the other patrons want and expect quiet. And two, why the hell are you subjecting your son to something you know is likely to agitate and exacerbate his well-documented autism?

If she was kicked out of something necessary (doctor's office, grocery store, whatever) she'd have a point, but a movie theatre is not essential to life and the reaction seems perfectly normal to me. "He's autistic" doesn't matter when people paid upwards of $10.50 to watch a movie in peace.

And again, seriously, if she knows it agitates him, why the hell would she subject him to it?


Because come hell or high weather, he enjoy live a life with all the small pleasures normal people have whether he likes it or not.
 
2014-03-21 03:28:35 PM  
As a parent of an autistic 24 year old, I can surely relate. However, I also make sure I don't put my son in situations that I know will cause him stress.
His mother should know better, in my opinion.
 
2014-03-21 03:29:03 PM  
I just don't to theaters, and all are better for it. I still wonder about a blog being headed up by three Big Bang Theory cast members. I thought Leonard, Penny and Stewart would have better stuff to do their own time.
 
2014-03-21 03:29:13 PM  

Marquis de Sod: If the guy melts down during the previews, wait for those to finish before you go in.
Sit in the back, near an exit.
If he acts up, time-out in the lobby until he gets it together.
Acts up three times then home you go.
He'll learn.

/Behavioral psychologist


This.

Autistic people are capable of learning.  You can teach them to behave themselves.

That being said, if they are unable to handle a movie because of sensory issues, it's best not to take them.  If they don't want to be in there, don't be selfish--don't make them sit there.  It's my understanding that with more severely autistic people, certain sights and sounds can actually be painful, and that's why they scream and carry on.

Just seems to me that no matter how you slice it, the mother was being selfish.  "I want to be able to get out of the house!" she whines.  Well, go to a park or something.  Go for a drive.
 
2014-03-21 03:29:45 PM  

433: It is not fair for any of us farkers to tell this woman what she should and should not do.


Dude, that, porn, and amazon are what the internet is  for!

/your telling other posters how to post is kinda ironic
 
2014-03-21 03:30:09 PM  

Mikey1969: JesusJuice: How did they draw it out? If they hadn't made her feel so unwelcome, she probably would have stayed. She gave them the choice of either being mean to her or having their movie experience ruined.

You really think one person stood up for the crowd and said "Hey, you're being too loud"? You know exactly how these things play out, everyone wants to talk shiat, and then when the woman says something back, everyone else wants to answer back, then they spend more time verbally 'high fiving' each other, then someone else feels that their particularly witty rejoinder didn't get the attention it deserved, so THEY pipe up, and then someone else chimes in, etc... I can guarantee you the shiat talking went on longer than this dude's initial freakout would have lasted.

It doesn't mean that it wasn't a disruption, it just takes someone incredibly naive to assume that this shiat didn't go on 10 times longer than it needed to because everyone wanted to talk a little more trash.


If it had been just one person giving her shiat she could have dismissed them as a lone asshole. She can't really ignore the whole theater telling her to GTFO. It sounds like there were multiple instances before people got aggressive, so I suspect they escalated to the level needed to make her leave.
 
2014-03-21 03:30:31 PM  

allylloyd: Unoriginal_Username: My 6 yr old son is autistic. We brought him to see the Lego movie, it was the first time he'd ever been in a theater, we weren't sure how he'd be. I sat in a spot where I could get out quickly without disturbing anyone just in case. We also brought a small toy for him to play with.
He was quieter then the kids who sat behind us.

This lady is an idiot. If her son can't handle sitting still or being quiet, and she doesn't want to rent the whole theater, wait for movies to get released onto dvd and stay home.

Parenting 101!

//Children under a certain age can't sit still or be quiet for a long length of time--bring them something to play with.


Dude has a penis...
 
2014-03-21 03:30:57 PM  
ToastTheRabbit:

Thee bigger issue is parents treat children as normal people. they are not. they are unprogrammed. they have no base code to form rules of their own. Parents assume the world will teach them and the world needs to tolerate this learning process and it pisses me off to no end.

I think it is because they themselves need to feel normal. Honestly, I am getting over it. I know my limitations. She knows his. He said he wanted to go home. He said it twice. I find it fascinating how people will dismiss loved one because they are "autistic" or have dementia or some other neurological issue. I would rather someone treat them or me as a person. He wanted to go home. She should have listened. I think that is what the rest of the patrons felt. It was not because her son was autistic or that he was misbehaving. IT was that she was not listening and being dismissive. She is programmed. She is old enough to know better. That is where treating people normally comes in to play. Treating people with autism normally does not mean they get to do whatever they want and we get to live with it because their excuse is their autistic. Anyway..
 
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