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2014-03-21 12:58:45 PM
"How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie. Movie theatres are supposed to be open to the public. This is a kind gesture but does nothing to promote understanding, tolerance or acceptance," a commenter wrote.


Tolerance and acceptance lasts about 5 minutes for me. After that, if your squalling kid (23 or not) doesn't shut his drool hole, here come my popcorn at your head.
 
2014-03-21 01:03:26 PM
Sorry, my tolerance ends at the age of 18, and my view of your precious little snowflake as an untreated, socially retarded individual begins.

The ChrisChans of the world should be protected before they turn an adult. After, fair game.
 
2014-03-21 01:05:08 PM
How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie. Movie theatres are supposed to be open to the public. This is a kind gesture but does nothing to promote understanding, tolerance or acceptance

How sad it is that people feel that the majority of people paying for a movie should be subjected to a disturbance.  Wait until it comes out on video if your child cannot behave (irrespective of any limitation they may have).
 
2014-03-21 01:06:28 PM
Touched by a blog post chronicling the incident, she is renting out a theatre to host a movie night for people with special needs.


jokerreport.typepad.com
 
2014-03-21 01:10:45 PM
And littering.  Got sent to the Group W bench.
 
2014-03-21 01:12:12 PM
In her blog post, Colson, author of "Dancing with Max," a memoir about her son, wrote that Max became frightened during the previews, as he often does, according to The Patriot Ledger.

Then why in the blue hell do you keep taking him?
 
2014-03-21 01:15:16 PM
She is aware of things like DVDs, cable, Netflix, and other such things that exist? If movies and movie previews are known to agitate your "child" (who is an adult, like it or not) why on earth would you go to a theatre? One, you know the other patrons want and expect quiet. And two, why the hell are you subjecting your son to something you know is likely to agitate and exacerbate his well-documented autism?

If she was kicked out of something necessary (doctor's office, grocery store, whatever) she'd have a point, but a movie theatre is not essential to life and the reaction seems perfectly normal to me. "He's autistic" doesn't matter when people paid upwards of $10.50 to watch a movie in peace.

And again, seriously, if she knows it agitates him, why the hell would she subject him to it?
 
2014-03-21 01:16:42 PM

The Goddamn Batman: n her blog post, Colson, author of "Dancing with Max," a memoir about her son, wrote that Max became frightened during the previews, as he often does, according to The Patriot Ledger.

Then why in the blue hell do you keep taking him?


three minutes off, but that was also my question. Seems borderline abusive.
 
2014-03-21 01:18:52 PM
I don't see why the kids age is relevant. If he's not capable of staying quiet in the movie theater, he shouldn't be in the movie theater. Crying babies, young potatoes, old potatoes. Same problem, same solution. Leave them with a babysitter.
"Yeah, of course my vuvuzela makes a lot of noise. That's what it does. Why are you being so intolerant?"


Also,
How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie.
You could try maybe renting an entire DVD instead of an entire theater. Just a suggestion...
 
2014-03-21 01:20:04 PM
If your kid, whether from age one week to 99, is causing a disturbance in public, you remove that kid from the situation. Period. Pulling the "oh poor picked on special needs kid (adult)" ain't cutting it here.
 
2014-03-21 01:22:19 PM
Also, I am sorry her son has autism (and it sounds severe) but that unfortunate fact does not mean that she/he have the right to do anything and everything they want and if he has an episode, just say "he has autism!" and everyone else has to say "okay, sorry, our bad, carry on, we don't need to hear the dialogue in this movie, anyway."  Or "Oh, he's kicking the crap out of the back of my chair, but he has autism, so let him, carry on."
 
2014-03-21 01:27:02 PM
That beach picture is really creepy.
 
2014-03-21 01:41:47 PM
I'd have a psychological problem with a mother that would allow her son to do that. I'd be forced me to keep kicking her seat until the problem was resolved. Sorry, wish I could stop, but I was born like that and she should be a bit more understanding.
 
2014-03-21 01:44:28 PM
Is anyone else shamefully laughing at the thought of a theatre full of Tourette's sufferers swearing their heads off during a screening of some church-lady approved film?

*snicker-snicker-snicher-shame-guilt-snicker-snicker....*
 
2014-03-21 01:52:24 PM

The Goddamn Batman: In her blog post, Colson, author of "Dancing with Max," a memoir about her son, wrote that Max became frightened during the previews, as he often does, according to The Patriot Ledger.

Then why in the blue hell do you keep taking him?


My thoughts, exactly.

oldfarthenry: Is anyone else shamefully laughing at the thought of a theatre full of Tourette's sufferers swearing their heads off during a screening of some church-lady approved film?

*snicker-snicker-snicher-shame-guilt-snicker-snicker....*


Shamefully? No.
 
2014-03-21 01:53:56 PM
You don't have to avoid movies if you have a loud/noisy child.  Just go super early during the week.  I take my 2 yr old and baby to kids movies sometimes (usually a while after the movie has been released) and we almost always have the theatre to ourselves.

This whole thing really just sounds like one of those scams where someone wrote something stupid/racist on a receipt for a waitress that seems to be all the fashion these days.
 
2014-03-21 01:55:44 PM
 
2014-03-21 01:56:35 PM
"As Christians, we're supposed to love our neighbor as ourselves," she said.

How does she know that everyone in the theater was a Christian? There might have been some atheists in there, and they hate everybody. Throw in some Muslims and Jews, and she should just be happy that she got out of there alive.
 
2014-03-21 02:05:24 PM
FTFA:

"Sitting at the movies is one of our hard-earned victories. But after 23 years, I know that life with autism is predictably unpredictable," she wrote,


Yes, yes....it's your D-Day.

*Eye Roll*
 
2014-03-21 02:08:40 PM
Dubbed "Movie with Max," some 300 people, including many with special needs, will fill a local theatre at the end of the month to watch The Muppets Most Wanted.


Remember that scene in Gremlins where they were watching Snow White?  Who wants to wager it will be just like that?

/Aisle seat, please.
 
2014-03-21 02:12:21 PM

hb0mb: and we almost always have the theatre to ourselves.



CSB:

The last time I had a theater to myself was an early Sunday morning showing of the Evil Dead remake.  Holy f*ck that was creepy....almost wanted to head straight to church.

/Got my money's worth.
 
2014-03-21 02:17:40 PM

Pocket Ninja: "As Christians, we're supposed to love our neighbor as ourselves," she said.

How does she know that everyone in the theater was a Christian? There might have been some atheists in there, and they hate everybody. Throw in some Muslims and Jews, and she should just be happy that she got out of there alive.


Maybe she should do the Christian thing and keep her loud, noisy, obnoxious child out of the theater then.
 
2014-03-21 02:17:59 PM
Goddammit, I read that whole farking thing and still didn't have my only question answered: WHAT WAS THE MOVIE?!
 
2014-03-21 02:37:42 PM

Pocket Ninja: "As Christians, we're supposed to love our neighbor as ourselves," she said.

How does she know that everyone in the theater was a Christian? There might have been some atheists in there, and they hate everybody. Throw in some Muslims and Jews, and she should just be happy that she got out of there alive.


And maybe she should love all those people who just wanted to watch a movie in peace instead of biatching about it on the Internet.
 
2014-03-21 02:38:18 PM
My 6 yr old son is autistic. We brought him to see the Lego movie, it was the first time he'd ever been in a theater, we weren't sure how he'd be. I sat in a spot where I could get out quickly without disturbing anyone just in case. We also brought a small toy for him to play with.
He was quieter then the kids who sat behind us.

This lady is an idiot. If her son can't handle sitting still or being quiet, and she doesn't want to rent the whole theater, wait for movies to get released onto dvd and stay home.
 
2014-03-21 02:40:10 PM

serpent_sky: She is aware of things like DVDs, cable, Netflix, and other such things that exist? If movies and movie previews are known to agitate your "child" (who is an adult, like it or not) why on earth would you go to a theatre? One, you know the other patrons want and expect quiet. And two, why the hell are you subjecting your son to something you know is likely to agitate and exacerbate his well-documented autism?

If she was kicked out of something necessary (doctor's office, grocery store, whatever) she'd have a point, but a movie theatre is not essential to life and the reaction seems perfectly normal to me. "He's autistic" doesn't matter when people paid upwards of $10.50 to watch a movie in peace.

And again, seriously, if she knows it agitates him, why the hell would she subject him to it?


Self righteous denial?
 
2014-03-21 02:40:32 PM

gopher321: "How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie. Movie theatres are supposed to be open to the public. This is a kind gesture but does nothing to promote understanding, tolerance or acceptance," a commenter wrote.


Tolerance and acceptance lasts about 5 minutes for me. After that, if your squalling kid (23 or not) doesn't shut his drool hole, here come my popcorn at your head.


Wow, you are a true bad ass.
 
2014-03-21 02:41:21 PM

hardinparamedic: Sorry, my tolerance ends at the age of 18, and my view of your precious little snowflake as an untreated, socially retarded individual begins.

The ChrisChans of the world should be protected before they turn an adult. After, fair game.


I really hope that you, your parents or your grandparents don't have dementia or Alzheimer's disease.

//People don't get them  until they are adults.
//People with dementia and Alzheimer's are worse than kids with autism.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-03-21 02:41:29 PM
That was a T-H-E-A-T-E-R, for movies, not a T-H-E-A-T-R-E, for stage.  Unless Canada has different rules for that.
 
2014-03-21 02:41:45 PM
At least he wasn't shot dead for texting.
 
2014-03-21 02:42:50 PM
If you tolerate all misbehavior and demand that the world accommodates your kid's tantrums, you shouldn't be surprised at the resulting "autism".
 
2014-03-21 02:42:52 PM

Sybarite: Touched by a blog post chronicling the incident, she is renting out a theatre to host a movie night for people with special needs.


Hopefully they can rent Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, so the theater can look like Bedford Falls Theater in Gremlins
 
2014-03-21 02:42:57 PM

gopher321: "How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie. Movie theatres are supposed to be open to the public. This is a kind gesture but does nothing to promote understanding, tolerance or acceptance," a commenter wrote.


Tolerance and acceptance lasts about 5 minutes for me. After that, if your squalling kid (23 or not) doesn't shut his drool hole, here come my popcorn at your head.


shiat man, I've had ADULTS kicked out of theaters, much less kids.

LOVE Alamo Drafthouse Cinema, they're real damn good about kicking out disturbances.
 
2014-03-21 02:42:58 PM
Doesn't matter to me if they're autistic.  If you know your child is going to disturb someone by being noisy, come up with an alternative.  Rent something.  That's what I did before my mildly autistic son learned to settle down.

He sits quietly in church now.  If you give him a pad of paper to draw on, better yet--he's able to listen and draw at the same time.  And you get some nice artwork.

And this woman apparently hasn't figured out that loving your neighbor also entails not inconveniencing them needlessly.
 
2014-03-21 02:43:27 PM
I feel her pain in wanting her son to have as normal a life as possible.  It's a shame this doesn't exist for her:

katespiritu.com
 
2014-03-21 02:43:47 PM
The upside is they didn't call the cops
 
2014-03-21 02:44:23 PM

The_Sponge: Dubbed "Movie with Max," some 300 people, including many with special needs, will fill a local theatre at the end of the month to watch The Muppets Most Wanted.


Remember that scene in Gremlins where they were watching Snow White?  Who wants to wager it will be just like that?

/Aisle seat, please.


This is what I get for not reading the thread. Damn. Glad we both had the same image
 
2014-03-21 02:44:24 PM
DRTFA, but as the parent of autistic kids, we know when to pick and choose our battles & situations.  And FFS, if we're the problem then it's our ass that needs to get out.  We've planned out some events carefully (and avoided others completely) because we know we're not going to enjoy the event if we have a kid (or FSM-forbid both) in sensory overload.  It's farkwad parents like this who make life rougher for the rest of us by being stubborn jackasses.


/Won the genetic lottery, yes we did.
 
2014-03-21 02:44:33 PM
This is awful thinking, but right away I thought of making these "movies with max" events a television show in the same format as Mystery Science Theater, silhouettes and all.
 
2014-03-21 02:44:56 PM

Unoriginal_Username: My 6 yr old son is autistic. We brought him to see the Lego movie, it was the first time he'd ever been in a theater, we weren't sure how he'd be. I sat in a spot where I could get out quickly without disturbing anyone just in case. We also brought a small toy for him to play with.
He was quieter then the kids who sat behind us.

This lady is an idiot. If her son can't handle sitting still or being quiet, and she doesn't want to rent the whole theater, wait for movies to get released onto dvd and stay home.


Parenting 101!

//Children under a certain age can't sit still or be quiet for a long length of time--bring them something to play with.
 
2014-03-21 02:45:06 PM
I want to be sympathetic, I really do.

But I'm not.
 
2014-03-21 02:45:25 PM
Give this kid a gun.
An armed society is a polite society.
 
2014-03-21 02:45:57 PM
If Mongo can't sit nice, keep him in his crate.
 
2014-03-21 02:46:11 PM
Should take him to church instead. They're probably starved for entertainment.

/esp. funerals and weddings
 
2014-03-21 02:46:59 PM

The_Sponge: hb0mb: and we almost always have the theatre to ourselves.


CSB:

The last time I had a theater to myself was an early Sunday morning showing of the Evil Dead remake.  Holy f*ck that was creepy....almost wanted to head straight to church.

/Got my money's worth.


CSB II -

I was travelling and got the business finished early.  There was a theater right by the hotel, rainy day, they were showing a Sci Fi movie I wanted to see, why not.  Almost empty theater, stadium seating, maybe a 300 seat place.  There was 1 other patron way at the top.  I sat in the middle about 1/2 way down, lounged back and was enjoying the previews.  2 folks come in, they look around, wander up, and literally sit right in front of me.  Not a row down, but right in front.  Sort of creepy.  I move back a couple of rows.
 
2014-03-21 02:47:12 PM

gopher321: "How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie. Movie theatres are supposed to be open to the public. This is a kind gesture but does nothing to promote understanding, tolerance or acceptance," a commenter wrote.


Tolerance and acceptance lasts about 5 minutes for me. After that, if your squalling kid (23 or not) doesn't shut his drool hole, here come my popcorn at your head.


Sure thing tough guy, and you'll look real funny trying to remove that popcorn bucket out of butthole 3 minutes later...
 
2014-03-21 02:47:37 PM

Unoriginal_Username: My 6 yr old son is autistic. We brought him to see the Lego movie, it was the first time he'd ever been in a theater, we weren't sure how he'd be. I sat in a spot where I could get out quickly without disturbing anyone just in case. We also brought a small toy for him to play with.
He was quieter then the kids who sat behind us.

This lady is an idiot. If her son can't handle sitting still or being quiet, and she doesn't want to rent the whole theater, wait for movies to get released onto dvd and stay home.


Alamo Drafthouse has Autism-Friendly screenings. Probably one of the biggest reason I give them a thumbs up on their zero tolerance policy.

A disability does not give you (or your family) carte blanche to be an asshole.
 
2014-03-21 02:49:02 PM
actually a local movie chain has special shows with the lights turned up and the sound turned down just for this sort of thing.
 
2014-03-21 02:49:09 PM
She should feel grateful she even has a child.  A couple hundred years ago, he would have been tied to a tree to feed hungry wolves.
 
2014-03-21 02:49:10 PM

allylloyd: Unoriginal_Username: My 6 yr old son is autistic. We brought him to see the Lego movie, it was the first time he'd ever been in a theater, we weren't sure how he'd be. I sat in a spot where I could get out quickly without disturbing anyone just in case. We also brought a small toy for him to play with.
He was quieter then the kids who sat behind us.

This lady is an idiot. If her son can't handle sitting still or being quiet, and she doesn't want to rent the whole theater, wait for movies to get released onto dvd and stay home.

Parenting 101!

//Children under a certain age can't sit still or be quiet for a long length of time--bring them something to play with.


I was actually surprised. He was enjoying the movie so much that he sat quiet for an hour. Then he came to where I was sitting, hopped up on my lap and watched the rest of the movie.

/The Lego movie, so good it keeps little monsters quiet
 
2014-03-21 02:49:13 PM

serpent_sky: She is aware of things like DVDs, cable, Netflix, and other such things that exist? If movies and movie previews are known to agitate your "child" (who is an adult, like it or not) why on earth would you go to a theatre?


I was going to say this exact thing, but you beat me to it.  Good to see there some other thinking people in this world.
 
2014-03-21 02:49:17 PM
The only person I feel sympathy for here is the autistic son.

He has a history of meltdowns yet she took him to the theater anyway, which is not fair to him or the rest of the paying audience. If he can't handle the situation try, oh I dunno... watching movies at home, maybe?? Or go when the theater is empty (weekday, matinee, whatever) and time your arrival so you miss the previews. Hell, I'm neurotypical and I do that to avoid disruptive people so I can actually enjoy the movie!
 
2014-03-21 02:49:31 PM
Christian outrage is best outrage.
 
2014-03-21 02:49:33 PM

sunnewswebguy: gopher321: "How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie. Movie theatres are supposed to be open to the public. This is a kind gesture but does nothing to promote understanding, tolerance or acceptance," a commenter wrote.


Tolerance and acceptance lasts about 5 minutes for me. After that, if your squalling kid (23 or not) doesn't shut his drool hole, here come my popcorn at your head.

Sure thing tough guy, and you'll look real funny trying to remove that popcorn bucket out of butthole 3 minutes later...


www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-03-21 02:49:36 PM
Hey, at least he wasn't texting during the previews. He might not have made it out of there.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-03-21 02:49:36 PM
What's up with putting a quarter of the article after the comments?  Is that common, now?
 
2014-03-21 02:49:55 PM
Sounds like the lady wasn't "furious" subs, she was bummed how her and her son were heckled out of the place. I don't think I could bring myself to heckle/cheer as a special needs kid and his mom try to leave the theater, you gotta bet a special kinda douchebag for that.
 
2014-03-21 02:50:04 PM
If you're making loud noise during a movie you better well be dying. And if you are dying go outside so you stop interrupting the movie.
 
2014-03-21 02:51:06 PM
//People with dementia and Alzheimer's are worse than kids with autism


Good point. Let's keep them out of the theater too.
 
2014-03-21 02:51:22 PM

The Crepes of Wrath: She should feel grateful she even has a child.  A couple hundred years ago, he would have been tied to a tree to feed hungry wolves.


She would never tell anyone this, but her favorite movie opening was 300.

content8.flixster.com
 
2014-03-21 02:51:33 PM

I should be in the kitchen: He has a history of meltdowns yet she took him to the theater anyway, which is not fair to him or the rest of the paying audience.


Agreed. The poor kid probably loves going to the movies, but going to the theater is an immersive experience. If you can't "lose" yourself in a movie you are wasting your money.
 
2014-03-21 02:51:40 PM
Your claims of disability and special needs do not at any point authorize you to deprive others of their rights or enjoyment of public spaces.
 
2014-03-21 02:51:56 PM
Who's worse at the movies, black people or autistic people?
And don't give me any crap about black people at the movies, even Eddie Murphy knew it to be true.
 
2014-03-21 02:52:09 PM
Her stepmother tried to explain to patrons - who hurled insults - that Max had autism to no avail, The Blaze reported.

Yeah, I'd want them to quit disrupting the movie, but if this is how it played out, then the people in the theater were being bigger pricks than the situation warranted. Especially since hurling insults just exacerbates the situation, thereby drawing it out AND making things louder. Because nothing says "shut up. I want to see the movie" like starting a 10 minute screaming match. If someone can't figure out how to deal with an autistic kid freaking out, they really shouldn't try to pitch in. Nothing makes them get louder and more scared than screaming at them does.

As for this woman, I understand she wants to take her son to the movie. That's fine, but you can hit a matinee on anything but opening weekend, and stand a good chance of finding an empty auditorium. Maybe you should try that next time? She doesn't even have to go during the week. Hit that Sunday ll am showing, and if you think that he might have problems, you will quite possibly be the only one in  the theater and can still see the movie, but not disturb a bunch of angry people.
 
2014-03-21 02:53:06 PM

433: That was a T-H-E-A-T-E-R, for movies, not a T-H-E-A-T-R-E, for stage.  Unless Canada has different rules for that.



American English is the only place where the theater spelling is standard, but there is absolutely no rule differentiating between the two spellings. People like to make stuff up like "theater" is the building but "theatre" is the art or one spelling is for movies and one if for plays, but there's really no basis for any of that.
 
2014-03-21 02:53:21 PM
Tolerance and acceptance lasts about 5 minutes for me. After that, if your squalling kid (23 or not) doesn't shut his drool hole, here come my popcorn at your head.

Sure thing tough guy, and you'll look real funny trying to remove that popcorn bucket out of butthole 3 minutes later...


You call him a "tough guy" for saying he'd throw popcorn then try to scare him with an violent beatdown???
Are you special, too?
 
2014-03-21 02:53:26 PM
My local movie theatre (in UK) has autistic friendly screenings. As they are a large commercial chain I assume they are making a profit from the deal as they do it nationwide.
 
2014-03-21 02:55:28 PM

SecretAgentWoman: If your kid, whether from age one week to 99, is causing a disturbance in public, you remove that kid from the situation. Period. Pulling the "oh poor picked on special needs kid (adult)" ain't cutting it here.


Welcome to Fark.
 
2014-03-21 02:55:32 PM
Touched by a blog post chronicling the incident, she is renting out a theatre to host a movie night for people with special needs.

Many years ago, I saw some zombie movie (I think it was one of the Resident Evil movies) in the theater.  To my surprise, it apparently was also movie night for some group of mentally handicapped individuals.  There must have been at least 20 of them, and they were spread out throughout the seats, so I was surrounded by them.

Throughout the whole movie, these individuals would shuffle back-and-forth in their seats and make occasional low moaning sounds.

It was awesome.
 
2014-03-21 02:56:22 PM

Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: Who's worse at the movies, black people or autistic people?
And don't give me any crap about black people at the movies, even Eddie Murphy knew it to be true.


Yeah, and Chris Rock:  "This movie's so good, I'mma bust a cap in here!"  LOL
 
2014-03-21 02:56:33 PM
I have a little kid.  I don't take him to movies.  Instead, he gets his entertainment from a thousand other venues/activities that are more appropriate.

There's no reason for this woman and her son to be any different.  Whether his social problems are due to age, medical condition, drugs, an injury, a bad attitude, or any other reason doesn't make a difference.

Recognize your limitations and live within them.  Accept that your son might not be able to see movies in a theatre.  Just like he may need to accept that he can't drive a car, work in nuclear physics, do stand up comedy on weekends, and a million other things.
 
2014-03-21 02:56:47 PM
Why do I get the feeling that mommy dearest has been putting her child in situations like this for years. The kind of woman who wraps her self in self righteousness and victimhood. At the expense of her actual child of course.
 
2014-03-21 02:56:58 PM
I'm told that the screaming "autistic" child is just overwhelmed by stimuli, so why did you bring him to a movie theater? I've seen them freaking out in an Apple store, I can't imagine what a space designed to fully engage your senses would do.

These ones that freak out seem to be about as engaged with their surroundings as someone with welding goggles and ear muffs. Why not try matching their inputs to that?

/a sign of an affluent society
 
2014-03-21 02:58:10 PM
No sympathy. Procreation is a choice and a gamble and you deal with what you are given in the best way possible.
1. infants - dont take them to movie theaters, sit down resturants (excluding fast food) or planes. Tough shiat no exceptions hire a sitter, if you cant afford one you cant go out. Your baby does not need to see the latest explosion filled super action movie. Its going to scare it you cruel animal.
2. Toddlers - most instances see above
3. kids - mostly ok, keep them out of my better resturants.
4. Teenagers - Lock them away for the next 15 years in a small secluded place
5. adults - fill with booze
6. Elderly - give them a Throne.... they raised their kids better than you
7. Autism - choose your environment wisely. Some of us chose to abstain from procreation. Things that came out of your body are not my responsibility. I am not going to protect, entertain, tolerate your crotch fruit. Your job... not mine.

Thee bigger issue is parents treat children as normal people. they are not. they are unprogrammed. they have no base code to form rules of their own. Parents assume the world will teach them and the world needs to tolerate this learning process and it pisses me off to no end.

I need to stop.. I am going to piss a lot of people off.
 
2014-03-21 02:58:45 PM

sunnewswebguy: gopher321: "How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie. Movie theatres are supposed to be open to the public. This is a kind gesture but does nothing to promote understanding, tolerance or acceptance," a commenter wrote.


Tolerance and acceptance lasts about 5 minutes for me. After that, if your squalling kid (23 or not) doesn't shut his drool hole, here come my popcorn at your head.

Sure thing tough guy, and you'll look real funny trying to remove that popcorn bucket out of butthole 3 minutes later...


Well, I'm sure he's not going to want it once you stuff it in your ass.
 
2014-03-21 02:59:21 PM

The_Sponge: hb0mb: and we almost always have the theatre to ourselves.


CSB:

The last time I had a theater to myself was an early Sunday morning showing of the Evil Dead remake.  Holy f*ck that was creepy....almost wanted to head straight to church.

/Got my money's worth.


Double Plus Ungood CSB:

Midnight showing of Star Trek Into Darkness.  Just me, 3D glasses and one couple.

/The howling rainstorm outside might've been a factor.

//Not when you live four blocks from the theater.

///Downtown Fort Worth.  She's a beautiful thing.
 
2014-03-21 02:59:32 PM

oldfarthenry: Is anyone else shamefully laughing at the thought of a theatre full of Tourette's sufferers swearing their heads off during a screening of some church-lady approved film?

*snicker-snicker-snicher-shame-guilt-snicker-snicker....*


My X is a special needs teacher and we went to some special needs conference in Denver.  I was in a room full of kids that "ain't right in the hey-ed" and send me to hell if you want, a lot of what they did made me laugh.  And cringe.

In related news, the X begged me to buy her this shirt and i refused because if she wore it in public (which she would) there's simply no doubt a parent would see it.

i1.cpcache.com
 
2014-03-21 02:59:35 PM

Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: Who's worse at the movies, black people or autistic people?
And don't give me any crap about black people at the movies, even Eddie Murphy knew it to be true.


Poor people like you are the worst. I just don't know why you poors don't farking die all ready. farking Obamacare queens. We should offer free food and drugs to the poors laced with deadly poison. Or you know ship them to Crimea to fight Crom.
 
2014-03-21 02:59:38 PM
i.imgur.com

/obscure and going to hell.
 
2014-03-21 02:59:53 PM

serial_crusher: "Yeah, of course my vuvuzela makes a lot of noise. That's what it does. Why are you being so intolerant?"


Have you tried seeing your gynaecologist?
 
2014-03-21 03:00:10 PM

ToastTheRabbit: I need to stop.. I am going to piss a lot of people off.


You would need to matter to us first.
 
2014-03-21 03:00:10 PM
Some of you must really love when old white men go to the movies and shot people for texting...
 
2014-03-21 03:00:29 PM

The_Sponge: Dubbed "Movie with Max," some 300 people, including many with special needs, will fill a local theatre at the end of the month to watch The Muppets Most Wanted.


Remember that scene in Gremlins where they were watching Snow White?  Who wants to wager it will be just like that?

/Aisle seat, please.


Might be worth $12 just to watch the freak show!

//I'll take the seat next to yours.
 
2014-03-21 03:01:17 PM
"I think that we have to be intentional with inclusion," Colson said

Just shut up. Not our fault you had a defective cooter egg.
 
2014-03-21 03:02:03 PM

Headso: Sounds like the lady wasn't "furious" subs, she was bummed how her and her son were heckled out of the place. I don't think I could bring myself to heckle/cheer as a special needs kid and his mom try to leave the theater, you gotta bet a special kinda douchebag for that.


Like most of the people posting on here....
 
2014-03-21 03:02:08 PM

allylloyd: Some of you must really love when old white men go to the movies and shot people for texting...


No, but we do love when English is spoken.
 
2014-03-21 03:02:17 PM

Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: Who's worse at the movies, black people or autistic people?
And don't give me any crap about black people at the movies, even Eddie Murphy knew it to be true.


img2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-03-21 03:02:49 PM
I cannot stand badly designed sites that get greenlighted here.

This site for instance.  It loaded up ok.  But the content of the actual article, is served up from some external source that is blocked by my company.

No excuse for crap design.
 
2014-03-21 03:02:52 PM
Out of respect for others, you want me to endure a ruined movie experience? How about out respect for others, you accept it's not appropriate for such a disabled person to be disruptive in certain situations? I don't think that's rude or unethical to insist on that. Sorry your kid is autistic.But you should respect that I'm not, and maybe rent a movie instead.
 
2014-03-21 03:03:00 PM
Wait for it to come out on DVD lady.
 
2014-03-21 03:03:03 PM

sunnewswebguy: gopher321: "How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie. Movie theatres are supposed to be open to the public. This is a kind gesture but does nothing to promote understanding, tolerance or acceptance," a commenter wrote.


Tolerance and acceptance lasts about 5 minutes for me. After that, if your squalling kid (23 or not) doesn't shut his drool hole, here come my popcorn at your head.

Sure thing tough guy, and you'll look real funny trying to remove that popcorn bucket out of butthole 3 minutes later...


Except he has a concealed carry permit, shoots you dead, and isn't charged with a crime because you were attempting to rape him.
 
2014-03-21 03:03:03 PM

gopher321: Tolerance and acceptance lasts about 5 minutes for me. After that, if your squalling kid (23 or not) doesn't shut his drool hole, here come my popcorn at your head.


I'm willing to bet you've never thrown anything at anyone in a public setting, or told a stranger to shut his drool hole.

But you do have Fark to be a badass, dontcha?
 
2014-03-21 03:03:12 PM
Buy a bigger TV and stay home.
 
2014-03-21 03:03:23 PM

OtherLittleGuy: A disability does not give you (or your family) carte blanche to be an asshole


Amen, Brother.  A-FRELLING-MEN.
 
2014-03-21 03:03:28 PM

TheOtherMisterP: Nothing in the article to me suggests that the mother was "furious". She was certainly upset, but she also seemed to understand the awkward position she was placing the other movie-goers in.


And yet her reaction was little more than, "That's how he is.  Deal with it."  IMHO, that shows a lack of understanding or concern for the other viewers.
 
2014-03-21 03:03:38 PM

durbnpoisn: But the content of the actual article, is served up from some external source that is blocked by my company.


That really is your problem.
 
2014-03-21 03:03:57 PM
 a movie night for people with special needs.

Like people who bring their own bucket of KFC, talk at the screen, talk on the cell phone, and Shush you back?
I'm not saying anything else about them, because it was too dark to make out any features.
 
2014-03-21 03:04:16 PM

Mikey1969: Her stepmother tried to explain to patrons - who hurled insults - that Max had autism to no avail, The Blaze reported.

Yeah, I'd want them to quit disrupting the movie, but if this is how it played out, then the people in the theater were being bigger pricks than the situation warranted. Especially since hurling insults just exacerbates the situation, thereby drawing it out AND making things louder. Because nothing says "shut up. I want to see the movie" like starting a 10 minute screaming match. If someone can't figure out how to deal with an autistic kid freaking out, they really shouldn't try to pitch in. Nothing makes them get louder and more scared than screaming at them does.

As for this woman, I understand she wants to take her son to the movie. That's fine, but you can hit a matinee on anything but opening weekend, and stand a good chance of finding an empty auditorium. Maybe you should try that next time? She doesn't even have to go during the week. Hit that Sunday ll am showing, and if you think that he might have problems, you will quite possibly be the only one in  the theater and can still see the movie, but not disturb a bunch of angry people.


All of this. It seems the Fark brigade was quick to attack her for all the wrong reasons, though she does deserve an attack.
 
2014-03-21 03:04:28 PM
On one hand, people should be considerate to others and not bring someone into the theater who is likely to disturb other paying customers.

On the other hand, people should be considerate and not insult or harass people who are unintentionally causing a disturbance.

In general, people should be considerate.

But this is America...Who the fark am I kidding? It's the blessed land of "be an asshole to everyone."
 
2014-03-21 03:04:31 PM

shtychkn: I feel her pain in wanting her son to have as normal a life as possible.  It's a shame this doesn't exist for her:

[katespiritu.com image 850x1062]


(oatmeal comic)

Older people are quiet? Not necessarily. Last movie I went to, the row of teenage boys in front of me was quiet, but the middle-aged couple beside me spent a lot of time rustling around unwrapping candies. Always during the quiet dialogue where you needed to hear what was going on, not during the loud action scenes where you wouldn't notice. Morons. You're not in your living room.
 
2014-03-21 03:05:36 PM
Renee should of bought them one of these:

shop.mcccomputers.com

Or, if on a budget:

cdn.twentytwowords.com
 
2014-03-21 03:05:47 PM
She really shouldn't have exposed her autistic son to all those unvaccinated folks anyway.  It sounds like it was practically a measles orgy.
 
2014-03-21 03:06:31 PM

serpent_sky: She is aware of things like DVDs, cable, Netflix, and other such things that exist? If movies and movie previews are known to agitate your "child" (who is an adult, like it or not) why on earth would you go to a theatre? One, you know the other patrons want and expect quiet. And two, why the hell are you subjecting your son to something you know is likely to agitate and exacerbate his well-documented autism?

If she was kicked out of something necessary (doctor's office, grocery store, whatever) she'd have a point, but a movie theatre is not essential to life and the reaction seems perfectly normal to me. "He's autistic" doesn't matter when people paid upwards of $10.50 to watch a movie in peace.

And again, seriously, if she knows it agitates him, why the hell would she subject him to it?


10.50???? shiat. Imax 3d is $19.50 in San D.
 
2014-03-21 03:07:24 PM

serpent_sky: She is aware of things like DVDs, cable, Netflix, and other such things that exist? If movies and movie previews are known to agitate your "child" (who is an adult, like it or not) why on earth would you go to a theatre? One, you know the other patrons want and expect quiet. And two, why the hell are you subjecting your son to something you know is likely to agitate and exacerbate his well-documented autism?

If she was kicked out of something necessary (doctor's office, grocery store, whatever) she'd have a point, but a movie theatre is not essential to life and the reaction seems perfectly normal to me. "He's autistic" doesn't matter when people paid upwards of $10.50 to watch a movie in peace.

And again, seriously, if she knows it agitates him, why the hell would she subject him to it?


But, but, but, the poor snowflake (is it correct to refer to a 23-year-old as a snowflake) would be robbed of the social aspects of viewing a movie in a crowded theater?  How else will he ever get to engage in a spirited bout of yelling, screaming, crying in public?  It probably also serves the purpose of exercising her outrage gland -- how dare these other people not burdened with what I'm burdened by express the least little bit of chagrin over Junior's antics.

No, I'm not going to engage in condemnation of the people she claims became an angry mob seeking to embarass her and banish her son.  That's because that's her side of the story and, the last time I checked there are usually more than one perspective to a story.  About the only good thing that came of this was that a bunch of like-minded and like-burdened people decided to band together to have a group outing with their autistic kids.

One last question, if you're seated in a theater watching a movie you paid good money to see, what do you do when somebody begins having a loud conversation on a cell phone?  What essentially is the difference between that and having an autistic kid put on a hissy fit in the theater?
 
2014-03-21 03:07:28 PM
So the outcome is that normal moviegoers get to have a normal moviegoing experience, and moviegoers with special needs get to have a special screening where they aren't inconveniencing or behind harassed by others.

Sounds like everyone wins to me.
 
2014-03-21 03:07:58 PM

space1999: Many years ago, I saw some zombie movie (I think it was one of the Resident Evil movies) in the theater. To my surprise, it apparently was also movie night for some group of mentally handicapped individuals. There must have been at least 20 of them, and they were spread out throughout the seats, so I was surrounded by them.

Throughout the whole movie, these individuals would shuffle back-and-forth in their seats and make occasional low moaning sounds.

It was awesome.


CSB!
 
2014-03-21 03:07:59 PM

Mikey1969: Her stepmother tried to explain to patrons - who hurled insults - that Max had autism to no avail, The Blaze reported.

Yeah, I'd want them to quit disrupting the movie, but if this is how it played out, then the people in the theater were being bigger pricks than the situation warranted. Especially since hurling insults just exacerbates the situation, thereby drawing it out AND making things louder. Because nothing says "shut up. I want to see the movie" like starting a 10 minute screaming match. If someone can't figure out how to deal with an autistic kid freaking out, they really shouldn't try to pitch in. Nothing makes them get louder and more scared than screaming at them does.

As for this woman, I understand she wants to take her son to the movie. That's fine, but you can hit a matinee on anything but opening weekend, and stand a good chance of finding an empty auditorium. Maybe you should try that next time? She doesn't even have to go during the week. Hit that Sunday ll am showing, and if you think that he might have problems, you will quite possibly be the only one in  the theater and can still see the movie, but not disturb a bunch of angry people.


How did they draw it out? If they hadn't made her feel so unwelcome, she probably would have stayed. She gave them the choice of either being mean to her or having their movie experience ruined.
 
2014-03-21 03:08:27 PM

hardinparamedic: Sorry, my tolerance ends at the age of 18, and my view of your precious little snowflake as an untreated, socially retarded individual begins.

The ChrisChans of the world should be protected before they turn an adult. After, fair game.


Oh god, ChrisChan. That dude's a mix of creepy, sick, and hilariously pathetic.
/I'm tempted to write a post-apocalyptic story about CWC surviving the apocalypse. It'd just one big slide of humiliation for him. Not realizing that a horrific plague is killing most of the population until the power goes out, his mom just abandoning him to evacuate, him declaring himself mayor of his abandoned town, getting shot with a taser by another group of survivors after calling them "homos", getting locked in a dog crate by the other group while they mock his comics, getting out of the crate and deciding to head west to find his girlfriend and found "New CWCville", finding a cool car and supplies, finding a girl who wants to have sex with him, getting dumped naked out of his car at gunpoint by said girl who proceeds to drive away with his stuff, wandering westwards slowly losing what sanity he has left, holing up in a trailer drawing increasingly crazy "sonichu" comics, and finally attempting to rape a survivor who entered his trailer, only to be shot and the camp stove he was cooking on to be knocked over. As he lays bleeding on the floor he starts laughing hysterically, oblivious to the spreading fire. The laughs soon turn to screams, and then silence, save for the hiss and crackle of the fire.
 
2014-03-21 03:08:47 PM

sunnewswebguy: and you'll look real funny trying to remove that popcorn bucket out of butthole 3 minutes later...


Are autistics have tard strongs?
 
2014-03-21 03:08:59 PM
www.jeremyriad.com

Could alway just put on a papit show.
 
2014-03-21 03:09:12 PM

WhiskeySticks: This is awful thinking, but right away I thought of making these "movies with max" events a television show in the same format as Mystery Science Theater, silhouettes and all.


In the not-too-distant future...
 
2014-03-21 03:09:20 PM
allylloyd:
I really hope that you, your parents or your grandparents don't have dementia or Alzheimer's disease.
//People don't get them until they are adults.
//People with dementia and Alzheimer's are worse than kids with autism.


And I imagine their sane caretakers avoid taking them to public movie theaters if they're likely to cause a disturbance.
 
2014-03-21 03:09:43 PM
Does he have his shots??
 
2014-03-21 03:12:10 PM
www.photo-dictionary.com
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-03-21 03:12:28 PM

Sybarite: 433: That was a T-H-E-A-T-E-R, for movies, not a T-H-E-A-T-R-E, for stage.  Unless Canada has different rules for that.


American English is the only place where the theater spelling is standard, but there is absolutely no rule differentiating between the two spellings. People like to make stuff up like "theater" is the building but "theatre" is the art or one spelling is for movies and one if for plays, but there's really no basis for any of that.


I stand corrected and informed.  The movie/play variation is standard in my area.  "Ye Olde Theatre" would still get under my skin if it existed.
 
2014-03-21 03:13:18 PM

R.A.Danny: allylloyd: Some of you must really love when old white men go to the movies and shot people for texting...

No, but we do love when English is spoken.


I don't think most of you would know proper English grammar, if it slapped you in the face.


Let's eat Grandma!  or  Let's eat, Grandma!
 
2014-03-21 03:13:24 PM
Throw her in jail for abusing the handicapped. Obviously she enjoys torturing the dude.
 
2014-03-21 03:13:35 PM

serial_crusher:
"Yeah, of course my vuvuzela makes a lot of noise. That's what it does. Why are you being so intolerant?"


www.joblo.com
 
2014-03-21 03:13:37 PM

ToastTheRabbit: I need to stop.. I am going to piss a lot of people off.


Piss me off?  shiat, I want to subscribe to your newsletter...
 
2014-03-21 03:14:34 PM

Unoriginal_Username: My 6 yr old son is autistic. We brought him to see the Lego movie, it was the first time he'd ever been in a theater, we weren't sure how he'd be. I sat in a spot where I could get out quickly without disturbing anyone just in case. We also brought a small toy for him to play with.
He was quieter then the kids who sat behind us.

This lady is an idiot. If her son can't handle sitting still or being quiet, and she doesn't want to rent the whole theater, wait for movies to get released onto dvd and stay home.



Thank you for posting that as someone with some experience on the subject.

I wanted to say what you said, but lack "standing" if you know what I mean.
 
2014-03-21 03:15:29 PM
It would be a shame if their Muppet movie were to be accidentally swapped out for something else just so someone could watch the reactions of all involved for a cheap laugh.

upload.wikimedia.org
s3.amazonaws.com
 
2014-03-21 03:15:35 PM

JesusJuice: How did they draw it out? If they hadn't made her feel so unwelcome, she probably would have stayed. She gave them the choice of either being mean to her or having their movie experience ruined.


You really think one person stood up for the crowd and said "Hey, you're being too loud"? You know exactly how these things play out, everyone wants to talk shiat, and then when the woman says something back, everyone else wants to answer back, then they spend more time verbally 'high fiving' each other, then someone else feels that their particularly witty rejoinder didn't get the attention it deserved, so THEY pipe up, and then someone else chimes in, etc... I can guarantee you the shiat talking went on longer than this dude's initial freakout would have lasted.

It doesn't mean that it wasn't a disruption, it just takes someone incredibly naive to assume that this shiat didn't go on 10 times longer than it needed to because everyone wanted to talk a little more trash.
 
2014-03-21 03:16:33 PM
the big question is, what happens when the parents pass away and the kid goes out alone?
as a parent you are supposed to get your kids ready to be on their own and know how to act in public.
my sister worked in a store where a "special" female would come in to the grocery store and use the produce....
the cops said that they could not do anything.
at least the store would remove all the used produce and throw it away.
true story, now how do you feel that everyone should be out and free?
never found out why the parent would bring them back to the store.
 
2014-03-21 03:17:17 PM

Miss Alexandra: Doesn't matter to me if they're autistic.  If you know your child is going to disturb someone by being noisy, come up with an alternative.  Rent something.  That's what I did before my mildly autistic son learned to settle down.

He sits quietly in church now.  If you give him a pad of paper to draw on, better yet--he's able to listen and draw at the same time.  And you get some nice artwork.

And this woman apparently hasn't figured out that loving your neighbor also entails not inconveniencing them needlessly.


Yes, but you're a racist homophobic creationist, so who gives a flying farking rentboy's asscum what you think? Seriously.

Away and organise your daugher's 'purity ball', woman. Shame on you.
 
2014-03-21 03:17:36 PM
Disability is no excuse for causing a disturbance.

In her blog post, Colson ... wrote that Max became frightened during the previews, as he often does

Solution: do not let him watch the previews. Have the theatre "hold" two seats for you after you've purchased your tickets and stand with him outside the theatre until the previews are done.

Mikey1969: If someone can't figure out how to deal with an autistic kidadult freaking out, they really shouldn't try to pitch inbe responsible for them.


If she can't control her "kid" then she shouldn't take him out in public and put him into situations where he is known to freak out.

Sorry. I have a friend with multiple autistic kids (one fairly manageable). She is smart enough to realize that the "problem" is hers to deal with, not everyone else's. She's also smart enough to (a) not put her kids (autistic or not) in situations that have historically made them uncomfortable and (b) remove them from any situations that do. BEFORE it gets on people's nerves and they start hurling insults.

sunnewswebguy: Sure thing tough guy, and you'll look real funny trying to remove that popcorn bucket out of butthole 3 minutes later...


{
Comments on another's Internet Tough Guy comment.
[meme pic]
Makes an Internet Tough Guy comment.
}
 
2014-03-21 03:17:49 PM

serial_crusher: I don't see why the kids age is relevant. If he's not capable of staying quiet in the movie theater, he shouldn't be in the movie theater.


The "kid" didn't even want to be there.  Apparently, that's what caused the disagreement with the other people who went to watch the movie.  He kept asking his mom to take him home.  He asked during the previews, and he was still asking after the movie started.

Taking him home makes him happy, and it makes everyone else in the theater happy - except for the biatch of a mom.  I doubt she's ever happy.

allylloyd: I really hope that you, your parents or your grandparents don't have dementia or Alzheimer's disease.


My mom has Alzheimer's.  It's horrible, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.  (Well, maybe some of the Westboro Baptist people.)

Her short term memory is pretty much gone, which is what most people know about Alzheimer's, but that's not the worst part.  The dementia comes and goes.  She has periods where she's great and other than the short term memory, she can go places, do things, etc and you wouldn't know she's sick.  Other times, nothing she says makes sense and hardly anyone can stand to be around her.  And sometimes it gets so bad she has to be in the hospital.  She's on a whole bunch of medication, and from time to time, they have to adjust what they are giving her.

My point is, I understand about someone who has dementia or a similar illness.  But I do not believe that gives you a right to take them out to the movies and ruin it for everyone else.  If they can't cope with being out in public, then I'm sorry, but you can't take them out in public.
 
2014-03-21 03:18:04 PM
I don't give a shiat about your kid's age, OR their handicap. If your offspring can't behave in public, then they don't belong in public. It's not up to everybody else to accommodate your broken child.
 
2014-03-21 03:18:27 PM

moike: ToastTheRabbit: I need to stop.. I am going to piss a lot of people off.

Piss me off?  shiat, I want to subscribe to your newsletter...


http://www.youtube.com/user/RantingGryphonStudio/featured
 
2014-03-21 03:18:54 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: It's not up to everybody else to accommodate your broken child.


And now I'm on the mom's side.
 
2014-03-21 03:19:00 PM
I can't imagine what it must be like to have a kid like that. But that's easier to imagine than why some jerk would insist that everyone else's lives must be disputed over their little snowflake.

So I'm not sure I buy the story.
 
2014-03-21 03:19:55 PM
Sooo.... what "often happens" happened... yet it was unpredictable.... and most of the story is sourced from "The Blaze"?

loveforsuccessfulwomen.com
 
2014-03-21 03:19:57 PM
As the father of an autistic child, I can safely say that if my kid was making a scene in a theater, I'd be dragging him out of there ASAP - not that he was raised to be like that, and he's never caused a scene.

Lady, your kid's trouble processing information like normal people is not an excuse for lax parenting. Deal with it in a proper fashion, and maybe, just maybe, your kid will have a chance to function in the real world. As it is, you will always have to babysit him, and should avoid taking him out in public.

Also, stop thinking you speak for all of us parents of autistic children. You give us all a bad public image.
 
2014-03-21 03:20:38 PM

uttertosh: Miss Alexandra: Doesn't matter to me if they're autistic.  If you know your child is going to disturb someone by being noisy, come up with an alternative.  Rent something.  That's what I did before my mildly autistic son learned to settle down.

He sits quietly in church now.  If you give him a pad of paper to draw on, better yet--he's able to listen and draw at the same time.  And you get some nice artwork.

And this woman apparently hasn't figured out that loving your neighbor also entails not inconveniencing them needlessly.

Yes, but you're a racist homophobic creationist, so who gives a flying farking rentboy's asscum what you think? Seriously.

Away and organise your daugher's 'purity ball', woman. Shame on you.


I don't have a daughter.

Apparently you give a "flying fark," else you wouldn't have replied.

Go take some vitamin D3.  Maybe it'll improve your attitude.  Or lay off the aspartame.
 
2014-03-21 03:20:43 PM
After reading some of these comments, I hope you boys are practicing CONDOM SENSE.


//Better  yet, get the vasectomy.
 
2014-03-21 03:21:13 PM

Pocket Ninja: "As Christians, we're supposed to love our neighbor as ourselves," she said.

How does she know that everyone in the theater was a Christian? There might have been some atheists in there, and they hate everybody. Throw in some Muslims and Jews, and she should just be happy that she got out of there alive.


Are Christians even allowed to go to the movies?  Jesus never went to a movie.
 
2014-03-21 03:22:58 PM

uttertosh: Christian outrage is best outrage.


How much Christin outrage and sympathy would she show if the kid were harassed for being gay?

The mother is n idiot, she should have taken him home.
 
2014-03-21 03:23:11 PM
If the guy melts down during the previews, wait for those to finish before you go in.
Sit in the back, near an exit.
If he acts up, time-out in the lobby until he gets it together.
Acts up three times then home you go.
He'll learn.

/Behavioral psychologist
 
2014-03-21 03:24:42 PM

allylloyd: R.A.Danny: allylloyd: Some of you must really love when old white men go to the movies and shot people for texting...

No, but we do love when English is spoken.

I don't think most of you would know proper English grammar, if it slapped you in the face.


Let's eat Grandma!  or  Let's eat, Grandma!


I will shot you in the nuts.
 
2014-03-21 03:25:08 PM
Saw a group of chatty, pre-teen queen bees catch a large soda to the back of their casually coiffed heads during a late showing of the last Batman flick. It was a beautiful thing to behold.

Hopefully, it taught them a valuable life lesson, because it won't be the last time those little coonts take the walk of shame whilst drenched in a strange man's juices.

/PHRASING!
 
2014-03-21 03:25:16 PM

shtychkn: I feel her pain in wanting her son to have as normal a life as possible.  It's a shame this doesn't exist for her:

[katespiritu.com image 850x1062]


That cartoon is a LIE about old people. They SUCK at watching movies. 1. They constantly open noisy hard candy, crinkling the wrappers as long as possible. 2. They make "awww" sounds at anything that draws an emotional response, especially anything that's "cute." 3. They ask their less hard-of-hearing spouses to repeat dialogue they didn't catch because they are deaf old farts.

Lesson learned: Do not go to the Sunday afternoon matinee of an indy film if you don't want to start hating old people.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-03-21 03:25:54 PM

JuggleGeek: If they can't cope with being out in public, then I'm sorry, but you can't take them out in public.


ArcadianRefugee: If she can't control her "kid" then she shouldn't take him out in public and put him into situations where he is known to freak out.


I don't think it is fair to deny the individual the chance to enjoy things like a movie.  Ideally, if it is seen that it will be trouble, then exiting the event is the thing to do.  Think of a wailing infant in a restaurant.  The woman in the article seemed to know to go when appropriate, though perhaps she stayed a little long.  It is unfortunate that things escalated as they did, it could have been handled better by all parties.  In light of the situation and how it unfolded, the solution of renting the place out for a movie night for children and young adults with disabilities is excellent.

It is not fair for any of us farkers to tell this woman what she should and should not do.  Who are we to instruct another, especially on the internet?  Finding the root cause of the problem and searching for an alternative is best, and I believe we have enough people with enough experience in these areas to be able to do just that.
 
2014-03-21 03:27:07 PM

gopher321: here come my popcorn at your head.


Just don't do that in Florida.  Theater might get a little shooty.
 
2014-03-21 03:28:01 PM

serpent_sky: She is aware of things like DVDs, cable, Netflix, and other such things that exist? If movies and movie previews are known to agitate your "child" (who is an adult, like it or not) why on earth would you go to a theatre? One, you know the other patrons want and expect quiet. And two, why the hell are you subjecting your son to something you know is likely to agitate and exacerbate his well-documented autism?

If she was kicked out of something necessary (doctor's office, grocery store, whatever) she'd have a point, but a movie theatre is not essential to life and the reaction seems perfectly normal to me. "He's autistic" doesn't matter when people paid upwards of $10.50 to watch a movie in peace.

And again, seriously, if she knows it agitates him, why the hell would she subject him to it?


Because come hell or high weather, he enjoy live a life with all the small pleasures normal people have whether he likes it or not.
 
2014-03-21 03:28:35 PM
As a parent of an autistic 24 year old, I can surely relate. However, I also make sure I don't put my son in situations that I know will cause him stress.
His mother should know better, in my opinion.
 
2014-03-21 03:29:03 PM
I just don't to theaters, and all are better for it. I still wonder about a blog being headed up by three Big Bang Theory cast members. I thought Leonard, Penny and Stewart would have better stuff to do their own time.
 
2014-03-21 03:29:13 PM

Marquis de Sod: If the guy melts down during the previews, wait for those to finish before you go in.
Sit in the back, near an exit.
If he acts up, time-out in the lobby until he gets it together.
Acts up three times then home you go.
He'll learn.

/Behavioral psychologist


This.

Autistic people are capable of learning.  You can teach them to behave themselves.

That being said, if they are unable to handle a movie because of sensory issues, it's best not to take them.  If they don't want to be in there, don't be selfish--don't make them sit there.  It's my understanding that with more severely autistic people, certain sights and sounds can actually be painful, and that's why they scream and carry on.

Just seems to me that no matter how you slice it, the mother was being selfish.  "I want to be able to get out of the house!" she whines.  Well, go to a park or something.  Go for a drive.
 
2014-03-21 03:29:45 PM

433: It is not fair for any of us farkers to tell this woman what she should and should not do.


Dude, that, porn, and amazon are what the internet is  for!

/your telling other posters how to post is kinda ironic
 
2014-03-21 03:30:09 PM

Mikey1969: JesusJuice: How did they draw it out? If they hadn't made her feel so unwelcome, she probably would have stayed. She gave them the choice of either being mean to her or having their movie experience ruined.

You really think one person stood up for the crowd and said "Hey, you're being too loud"? You know exactly how these things play out, everyone wants to talk shiat, and then when the woman says something back, everyone else wants to answer back, then they spend more time verbally 'high fiving' each other, then someone else feels that their particularly witty rejoinder didn't get the attention it deserved, so THEY pipe up, and then someone else chimes in, etc... I can guarantee you the shiat talking went on longer than this dude's initial freakout would have lasted.

It doesn't mean that it wasn't a disruption, it just takes someone incredibly naive to assume that this shiat didn't go on 10 times longer than it needed to because everyone wanted to talk a little more trash.


If it had been just one person giving her shiat she could have dismissed them as a lone asshole. She can't really ignore the whole theater telling her to GTFO. It sounds like there were multiple instances before people got aggressive, so I suspect they escalated to the level needed to make her leave.
 
2014-03-21 03:30:31 PM

allylloyd: Unoriginal_Username: My 6 yr old son is autistic. We brought him to see the Lego movie, it was the first time he'd ever been in a theater, we weren't sure how he'd be. I sat in a spot where I could get out quickly without disturbing anyone just in case. We also brought a small toy for him to play with.
He was quieter then the kids who sat behind us.

This lady is an idiot. If her son can't handle sitting still or being quiet, and she doesn't want to rent the whole theater, wait for movies to get released onto dvd and stay home.

Parenting 101!

//Children under a certain age can't sit still or be quiet for a long length of time--bring them something to play with.


Dude has a penis...
 
2014-03-21 03:30:57 PM
ToastTheRabbit:

Thee bigger issue is parents treat children as normal people. they are not. they are unprogrammed. they have no base code to form rules of their own. Parents assume the world will teach them and the world needs to tolerate this learning process and it pisses me off to no end.

I think it is because they themselves need to feel normal. Honestly, I am getting over it. I know my limitations. She knows his. He said he wanted to go home. He said it twice. I find it fascinating how people will dismiss loved one because they are "autistic" or have dementia or some other neurological issue. I would rather someone treat them or me as a person. He wanted to go home. She should have listened. I think that is what the rest of the patrons felt. It was not because her son was autistic or that he was misbehaving. IT was that she was not listening and being dismissive. She is programmed. She is old enough to know better. That is where treating people normally comes in to play. Treating people with autism normally does not mean they get to do whatever they want and we get to live with it because their excuse is their autistic. Anyway..
 
2014-03-21 03:32:02 PM

JesusJuice: Mikey1969: JesusJuice: How did they draw it out? If they hadn't made her feel so unwelcome, she probably would have stayed. She gave them the choice of either being mean to her or having their movie experience ruined.

You really think one person stood up for the crowd and said "Hey, you're being too loud"? You know exactly how these things play out, everyone wants to talk shiat, and then when the woman says something back, everyone else wants to answer back, then they spend more time verbally 'high fiving' each other, then someone else feels that their particularly witty rejoinder didn't get the attention it deserved, so THEY pipe up, and then someone else chimes in, etc... I can guarantee you the shiat talking went on longer than this dude's initial freakout would have lasted.

It doesn't mean that it wasn't a disruption, it just takes someone incredibly naive to assume that this shiat didn't go on 10 times longer than it needed to because everyone wanted to talk a little more trash.

If it had been just one person giving her shiat she could have dismissed them as a lone asshole. She can't really ignore the whole theater telling her to GTFO. It sounds like there were multiple instances before people got aggressive, so I suspect they escalated to the level needed to make her leave.


I also wonder if she didn't egg things on.  Remember we're only hearing *her* story.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-03-21 03:32:20 PM

jst3p: 433: It is not fair for any of us farkers to tell this woman what she should and should not do.

Dude, that, porn, and amazon are what the internet is  for!
/your telling other posters how to post is kinda ironic


You are probably right on both counts.  :-/
 
Ant
2014-03-21 03:33:09 PM
Goddammit! I'm sorry that your son is autistic, but nobody who goes to a movie should have to deal with loud, obnoxious people, no matter what the cause of their obnoxiousness. I only take my son to movies he actually wants to see, and he knows that his mom and I won't hesitate to take him out of the theater if he talks or makes noise during the movie. Luckily, we've never had to do this.

...and stop bringing babies to the movie theater too!! When did this become OK?

/parent, but not OK with this shiat
 
2014-03-21 03:33:34 PM
But when Colson's stepmother, Patty, tried to explain that Max is autistic, the family apparently received little sympathy.

"I know he is, but why should the rest of us have to suffer?"


THIS!'d in every possible way! If you know your spawn is going to be a disruptive yowling ree-ree, then don't inflict it upon a whole theater full of innocent people, who have paid money to watch a movie, NOT be irritated by your child's antics. It's a movie theater, not a short bus!
 
2014-03-21 03:34:28 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Disability is no excuse for causing a disturbance.


Yeah it is. It's not an excuse for continuing a disturbance, but disabled people cause a "disturbance" if they are walking down the aisle of the theater and slip and fall, roll over someone's toes with the wheelchair, a million things that are excusable because of the disability. It's what she does afterwards, and how she tries to work around it that matters. i agree that she can just not go in until after the previews are over, which is even easier in theaters that do reserved seating, but it doesn't mean that the initial disturbance won't ever happen.

If you think that disabled people shouldn't 'cause' a disturbance ever, then you really haven't been around disabled people. Like I said, it's how she handled it, which is just going to be a bunch of 'He said, she said', since we don't have an impartial observer of any kind. Like I said in another post though, we all know how "nice" crowds of people are, so I can guess that they responded about as tolerantly as she said.
 
2014-03-21 03:34:29 PM

Unoriginal_Username: allylloyd: Unoriginal_Username: My 6 yr old son is autistic. We brought him to see the Lego movie, it was the first time he'd ever been in a theater, we weren't sure how he'd be. I sat in a spot where I could get out quickly without disturbing anyone just in case. We also brought a small toy for him to play with.
He was quieter then the kids who sat behind us.

This lady is an idiot. If her son can't handle sitting still or being quiet, and she doesn't want to rent the whole theater, wait for movies to get released onto dvd and stay home.

Parenting 101!

//Children under a certain age can't sit still or be quiet for a long length of time--bring them something to play with.

I was actually surprised. He was enjoying the movie so much that he sat quiet for an hour. Then he came to where I was sitting, hopped up on my lap and watched the rest of the movie.

/The Lego movie, so good it keeps little monsters quiet


I took my kids to that movie as a treat since wife/mom was out of town. I had no expectations at all; just trying to keep my kiddos entertained.

It was F'ing badass. Loved it. I'll watch it again when they get the DVD.

///Everything is awesome!!!!
 
2014-03-21 03:35:16 PM

DerAppie: Because come hell or high weather, he enjoy live a life with all the small pleasures normal people have whether he likes it or not.


Or, probably more likely, mom wants to see movies and well, she can usually calm him when he freaks out in movie theatres, so the rest of the world should deal if she can't.  It really doesn't seem like she is putting her son first if she repeatedly puts him in entirely unnecessary to survive situations that cause him to freak out.

I mean, like I said before, if he freaked at the doctor's office, she could explain the situation, but that he needs to be there for his health. That's totally different.  Even if he freaked out, he needs medical attention, so she has to put him through it.  Why do it unless it's absolutely necessary? At the cost of others, and then make yourself a martyr because you made a stupid mistake?
 
Ant
2014-03-21 03:35:17 PM
How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie.

How sad that the other 99% of the people in the theater had to pay to hear your kid talk over the movie.
 
2014-03-21 03:35:50 PM

hardinparamedic: Sorry, my tolerance ends at the age of 18, and my view of your precious little snowflake as an untreated, socially retarded individual begins.

The ChrisChans of the world should be protected before they turn an adult. After, fair game.


LOL! I was thinking of that oaf and his idiot Mother while reading that article too.
 
2014-03-21 03:36:36 PM

The Crepes of Wrath: She should feel grateful she even has a child.  A couple hundred years ago, he would have been tied to a tree to feed hungry wolves.


Sounds like a good idea.
 
2014-03-21 03:38:06 PM

Pincy: Pocket Ninja: "As Christians, we're supposed to love our neighbor as ourselves," she said.

How does she know that everyone in the theater was a Christian? There might have been some atheists in there, and they hate everybody. Throw in some Muslims and Jews, and she should just be happy that she got out of there alive.

Are Christians even allowed to go to the movies?  Jesus never went to a movie.


Jesus was a Jew. Are Jews allowed go to the movies? If Jews can, so can Christians.
 
2014-03-21 03:38:20 PM

NEPAman: The_Sponge: hb0mb: and we almost always have the theatre to ourselves.


CSB:

The last time I had a theater to myself was an early Sunday morning showing of the Evil Dead remake.  Holy f*ck that was creepy....almost wanted to head straight to church.

/Got my money's worth.

Double Plus Ungood CSB:

Midnight showing of Star Trek Into Darkness.  Just me, 3D glasses and one couple.

/The howling rainstorm outside might've been a factor.

//Not when you live four blocks from the theater.

///Downtown Fort Worth.  She's a beautiful thing.


7th street movie tavern?
 
2014-03-21 03:38:32 PM

notatrollorami: Unoriginal_Username: allylloyd: Unoriginal_Username: My 6 yr old son is autistic. We brought him to see the Lego movie, it was the first time he'd ever been in a theater, we weren't sure how he'd be. I sat in a spot where I could get out quickly without disturbing anyone just in case. We also brought a small toy for him to play with.
He was quieter then the kids who sat behind us.

This lady is an idiot. If her son can't handle sitting still or being quiet, and she doesn't want to rent the whole theater, wait for movies to get released onto dvd and stay home.

Parenting 101!

//Children under a certain age can't sit still or be quiet for a long length of time--bring them something to play with.

I was actually surprised. He was enjoying the movie so much that he sat quiet for an hour. Then he came to where I was sitting, hopped up on my lap and watched the rest of the movie.

/The Lego movie, so good it keeps little monsters quiet

I took my kids to that movie as a treat since wife/mom was out of town. I had no expectations at all; just trying to keep my kiddos entertained.

It was F'ing badass. Loved it. I'll watch it again when they get the DVD.

///Everything is awesome!!!!


oh Gods, my son loves that song. and yes, the movie was fantastic.
I will own the Blue ray. I'm not a Will Ferrell fan, but he did a great job with that one
 
2014-03-21 03:38:58 PM

serpent_sky: The Goddamn Batman: n her blog post, Colson, author of "Dancing with Max," a memoir about her son, wrote that Max became frightened during the previews, as he often does, according to The Patriot Ledger.

Then why in the blue hell do you keep taking him?

three minutes off, but that was also my question. Seems borderline abusive.


She probably has some sort of sick arrogance about her with her "Everyone look at me and my drooling Aspie son! I'm so wonderful aren't I?"

And then when she found out the reality that she's seen as a selfish jerk who inflicts her son onto others, she's goes to whine to the Internet about her shame. BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG Mistake there, lady.
 
2014-03-21 03:39:24 PM

R.A.Danny: Sin_City_Superhero: It's not up to everybody else to accommodate your broken child.

And now I'm on the mom's side.


Sorry bro, but society has rules. If your kid can't abide by the rules of a polite society, then keep 'em at home, until such time that they can. Why should 100 people be inconvenienced because one person can't follow the rules?
 
2014-03-21 03:40:20 PM

ReverendJasen: allylloyd:
I really hope that you, your parents or your grandparents don't have dementia or Alzheimer's disease.
//People don't get them until they are adults.
//People with dementia and Alzheimer's are worse than kids with autism.

And I imagine their sane caretakers avoid taking them to public movie theaters if they're likely to cause a disturbance.


Wait till your mother or father with dementia is living with you. Better yet, wait till they are living in an assisted living home.

//The guilt will get to you.
 
2014-03-21 03:41:44 PM

notatrollorami: NEPAman: The_Sponge: hb0mb: and we almost always have the theatre to ourselves.


CSB:

The last time I had a theater to myself was an early Sunday morning showing of the Evil Dead remake.  Holy f*ck that was creepy....almost wanted to head straight to church.

/Got my money's worth.

Double Plus Ungood CSB:

Midnight showing of Star Trek Into Darkness.  Just me, 3D glasses and one couple.

/The howling rainstorm outside might've been a factor.

//Not when you live four blocks from the theater.

///Downtown Fort Worth.  She's a beautiful thing.

7th street movie tavern?


The AMC off of 3rd Street.
 
2014-03-21 03:42:46 PM

JoieD'Zen: uttertosh: Christian outrage is best outrage.

How much Christin outrage and sympathy would she show if the kid were harassed for being gay?

The mother is n idiot, she should have taken him home.


I'm right with you - that there was me being sarcastironical. (which is best ironical)

Miss Alexandra: I don't have a daughter.


And I pray to God that you never do. And I'll continue to pray so till I am able to ask God in 'person'

Apparently you give a "flying fark," else you wouldn't have replied.

I give a flying fark about the detriment to Humanity that you are. You suck as a Mother, Parent, And most importantly of all, Christian.

Go take some vitamin D3. Maybe it'll improve your attitude. Or lay off the aspartame.

Maybe if you take more lessons about quantum physics you might improve your attitude. Or lay off the morphine/cocaine.
 
Ant
2014-03-21 03:43:34 PM

hb0mb: You don't have to avoid movies if you have a loud/noisy child.  Just go super early during the week.  I take my 2 yr old and baby to kids movies sometimes (usually a while after the movie has been released) and we almost always have the theatre to ourselves.


Unless they're extremely quiet, this is still not OK, IMO.
 
2014-03-21 03:43:59 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: Saw a group of chatty, pre-teen queen bees catch a large soda to the back of their casually coiffed heads during a late showing of the last Batman flick. It was a beautiful thing to behold.


Man, if your theater is anything like mine, that was one damn expensive lesson...
 
2014-03-21 03:45:18 PM

JuggleGeek: serial_crusher: I don't see why the kids age is relevant. If he's not capable of staying quiet in the movie theater, he shouldn't be in the movie theater.

The "kid" didn't even want to be there.  Apparently, that's what caused the disagreement with the other people who went to watch the movie.  He kept asking his mom to take him home.  He asked during the previews, and he was still asking after the movie started.

Taking him home makes him happy, and it makes everyone else in the theater happy - except for the biatch of a mom.  I doubt she's ever happy.

allylloyd: I really hope that you, your parents or your grandparents don't have dementia or Alzheimer's disease.

My mom has Alzheimer's.  It's horrible, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.  (Well, maybe some of the Westboro Baptist people.)

Her short term memory is pretty much gone, which is what most people know about Alzheimer's, but that's not the worst part.  The dementia comes and goes.  She has periods where she's great and other than the short term memory, she can go places, do things, etc and you wouldn't know she's sick.  Other times, nothing she says makes sense and hardly anyone can stand to be around her.  And sometimes it gets so bad she has to be in the hospital.  She's on a whole bunch of medication, and from time to time, they have to adjust what they are giving her.

My point is, I understand about someone who has dementia or a similar illness.  But I do not believe that gives you a right to take them out to the movies and ruin it for everyone else.  If they can't cope with being out in public, then I'm sorry, but you can't take them out in public.


Let's just kill all the "bad" people while they're children. In fact, let's abort them because they might "bad" people one day.

//My mother has dementia. Ups and downs.
//When I called her to say Happy Birthday (she turned 84), she said, "Honey, I feel like I'm in my 60s
//I love my mother.
 
2014-03-21 03:45:28 PM

Miss Alexandra: I also wonder if she didn't egg things on. Remember we're only hearing *her* story.


She seems like the sort who may have, so she could be an even bigger martyr for herself.

I just re-read the article, and she never mentioned anything like "and my son felt badly about this" - it's all about her.

I think she gets off on the attention and will use any excuse to scream about some sort of real or perceived slight of her kid with autism.

I was in line in a store behind a lady trying to contain her clearly autistic kid who was about to go nuclear.  She was looking at the people around her, mouthing, "I'm sorry" while trying to calm him (both calming and stern) and really just wanted to get out of there as quickly as possible. It was a grocery store.  A woman let her go in front of her in line (and nobody complained) so she could get out more quickly.  This woman was so nice, she was trying to contain her kid, buy her necessary groceries, and everyone saw that. Nobody complained, nobody said anything, and someone even helped her out by letting her go ahead of her in line.

It stands out because it was so rare that everyone in the situation was so cool about it because clearly. she didn't cause it, and was trying to take care of the matter as best she could, and the kid was clearly disabled.

I can't see this lady ending up in a situation like that. There's no good martyr blog in that.
 
2014-03-21 03:46:05 PM
This thread would be SO much different if "theatre" was replaced with "restaurant". Then there would be a metric assload of farkers defending the screamer.
 
2014-03-21 03:46:15 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: R.A.Danny: Sin_City_Superhero: It's not up to everybody else to accommodate your broken child.

And now I'm on the mom's side.

Sorry bro, but society has rules. If your kid can't abide by the rules of a polite society, then keep 'em at home, until such time that they can. Why should 100 people be inconvenienced because one person can't follow the rules?


No argument about rules. Not being mean even when someone else isn't perfect is also one of them. Yeah, she should be taking the guy to the matinee where there are kids and a lower expectation of a perfect theater experience, but don't be mean to a special needs kid.
 
2014-03-21 03:46:41 PM

doubled99: Tolerance and acceptance lasts about 5 minutes for me. After that, if your squalling kid (23 or not) doesn't shut his drool hole, here come my popcorn at your head.

Sure thing tough guy, and you'll look real funny trying to remove that popcorn bucket out of butthole 3 minutes later...


YOU! Into the Dome, Mutherfarker!!!
 
2014-03-21 03:46:43 PM
I'm all for the mom's right to see movies, but I don't think it is sad that they rented the theater so they could see it with other disabled people. Patrons of movies paid to hear the movie and see it... not to hear other people screaming, regardless of the reason. Your right to see a movie only goes so far as it doesn't take away from theirs. If the movie theater needs to have some sort of regular morning/matinee showing to help the disabled community, I'd be more than happy to help support that through charitable giving, but having a disabled child isn't a free pass to being an inconsiderate dick.
 
2014-03-21 03:46:47 PM

Duane Dibbley: It would be a shame if their Muppet movie were to be accidentally swapped out for something else just so someone could watch the reactions of all involved for a cheap laugh.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 364x550]
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Dude!  What the hell!
 
2014-03-21 03:48:52 PM

Dragonflew: This thread would be SO much different if "theatre" was replaced with "restaurant". Then there would be a metric assload of farkers defending the screamer.


Totally different expectations. There are showtimes that are used by fewer patrons and have more kids. That is a far better time for ringing someone that is potentially disruptive. There are also restaurants that are more family friendly.
 
Ant
2014-03-21 03:49:01 PM

allylloyd: People with dementia and Alzheimer's are worse than kids with autism.


Don't take them to movie theaters then.
 
2014-03-21 03:50:16 PM

bingethinker: shtychkn: I feel her pain in wanting her son to have as normal a life as possible.  It's a shame this doesn't exist for her:

[katespiritu.com image 850x1062]

(oatmeal comic)

Older people are quiet? Not necessarily. Last movie I went to, the row of teenage boys in front of me was quiet, but the middle-aged couple beside me spent a lot of time rustling around unwrapping candies. Always during the quiet dialogue where you needed to hear what was going on, not during the loud action scenes where you wouldn't notice. Morons. You're not in your living room.


To hell with noise from wrappers and stuff - I've been to plenty of movies where old people were just straight-up chatting.

I used to think old people were more respectful, teenagers less, but the truth is there are inconsiderate assholes in every single age group.  The only real way to guarantee a completely bullshiat-free moviegoing experience is to stay home (and pirate the movie to avoid the annoying crap on the DVD).
 
2014-03-21 03:50:17 PM
Pretty simple, if your stuff causes others a disturbance, you should probably leave.

If had Crohns and shiat my pants, I wouldn't just sit there in it because I "deserve" to be there; I would leave knowing that I'm ruining the time for others around me.
 
2014-03-21 03:50:41 PM

R.A.Danny: durbnpoisn: But the content of the actual article, is served up from some external source that is blocked by my company.

That really is your problem.


Perhaps.  But it's not my fault.
It's seems to me that it's up to the provider of the site to actually, you know, provide.
 
2014-03-21 03:50:51 PM
It's sick that the audience applauded them leaving--if they knew he had autism. She says she tried to communicate it, but who knows. Still, definitely not a bright idea to bring the kid adult man to the movies in the first place if he gets scared at the previews. I get trying to give him a rich, full life, but he was born with autism, so that was out of the question from day 1. Sorry. If it's any consolation God may also have it.
 
2014-03-21 03:51:36 PM

433: JuggleGeek: If they can't cope with being out in public, then I'm sorry, but you can't take them out in public.

ArcadianRefugee: If she can't control her "kid" then she shouldn't take him out in public and put him into situations where he is known to freak out.

I don't think it is fair to deny the individual the chance to enjoy things like a movie.  Ideally, if it is seen that it will be trouble, then exiting the event is the thing to do.  Think of a wailing infant in a restaurant.  The woman in the article seemed to know to go when appropriate, though perhaps she stayed a little long.  It is unfortunate that things escalated as they did, it could have been handled better by all parties.  In light of the situation and how it unfolded, the solution of renting the place out for a movie night for children and young adults with disabilities is excellent.

It is not fair for any of us farkers to tell this woman what she should and should not do.  Who are we to instruct another, especially on the internet?  Finding the root cause of the problem and searching for an alternative is best, and I believe we have enough people with enough experience in these areas to be able to do just that.


Notice my addendum: and put him into situations where he is known to freak out.
From the Daily Mail article: Max shrieked 'I want to go home,' during the first preview and said it again once the film started.
From this article: Max became frightened during the previews, as he often does....
Taking someone autistic out in public in general is a good thing; you want to expose them to the world because they will eventually have to live in it. Taking them into situations where they have repeatedly shown to be uncomfortable is not OK and just bothers them and those around them.

He likes movies, he should be able to see movies, but there are ways to let him have those experiences without annoying everyone.

Also, her blog post is full of "let's make this as colorful as possible" hyperbole.
 
2014-03-21 03:52:08 PM

Dragonflew: This thread would be SO much different if "theatre" was replaced with "restaurant". Then there would be a metric assload of farkers defending the screamer.



Or how about "airplane"?  Then it would get really ugly.
 
2014-03-21 03:53:09 PM

durbnpoisn: R.A.Danny: durbnpoisn: But the content of the actual article, is served up from some external source that is blocked by my company.

That really is your problem.

Perhaps.  But it's not my fault.
It's seems to me that it's up to the provider of the site to actually, you know, provide.


They do. The fact that your company blocks it isn't their issue.
 
2014-03-21 03:53:34 PM

Dragonflew: This thread would be SO much different if "theatre" was replaced with "restaurant". Then there would be a metric assload of farkers defending the screamer.


Hell's Kitchen  just started.

//I love Gordon Ramsay
 
2014-03-21 03:53:51 PM

Mikey1969: Yeah it is. It's not an excuse for continuing a disturbance


True; that was my (perhaps poorly worded) statement was intended to say. Then again, I don't see a single short outburst as "causing a disturbance"; I've a bit thicker skin.
 
2014-03-21 03:54:13 PM

ArcadianRefugee: From the Daily Mail article: Max shrieked 'I want to go home,' during the first preview and said it again once the film started.
From this article: Max became frightened during the previews, as he often does....


Also, if he yelled just twice, there is no way the whole theatre turned on them and applauded. Especially if he yelled once in the previews and once at the beginning of the movie.  I have to imagine it was much more than that, and her attempting to communicate the autism probably added to the ruckus.
 
2014-03-21 03:56:08 PM

allylloyd: Dragonflew: This thread would be SO much different if "theatre" was replaced with "restaurant". Then there would be a metric assload of farkers defending the screamer.

Hell's Kitchen  just started.

//I love Gordon Ramsay


makeameme.org

I get the feeling he's gonna axe the whole competition this year. Or at least have both doors locked in the finale. THEY ALL SUCK!
 
2014-03-21 03:58:57 PM

allylloyd: Dragonflew: This thread would be SO much different if "theatre" was replaced with "restaurant". Then there would be a metric assload of farkers defending the screamer.

Hell's Kitchen  just started.

//I love Gordon Ramsay


encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2014-03-21 03:59:02 PM

serpent_sky: ArcadianRefugee: From the Daily Mail article: Max shrieked 'I want to go home,' during the first preview and said it again once the film started.
From this article: Max became frightened during the previews, as he often does....

Also, if he yelled just twice, there is no way the whole theatre turned on them and applauded. Especially if he yelled once in the previews and once at the beginning of the movie.  I have to imagine it was much more than that, and her attempting to communicate the autism probably added to the ruckus.


2 times at 15 minutes each.
 
2014-03-21 03:59:06 PM
Now that all movies are digital, why not have 1 theater per screenmegaplex that shows all the latest movies on a rotation throughout the day and designate it for people with challenges.

If an autistic child really enjoys the movie theater experience it's a shame that they don't have the option. On the other hand when you are paying 12 bucks plus to see a new flick you shouldn't have to deal with disturbances...

On that screen only, rotate movies on different scheduals each day, so during a given week each one is available throughout the day. So if you want to see BLOODY DEATH PART 6 you can see it at 7PM, you just have to wait until Wednesday.

Not exactly equitable, but at least they would be trying...
 
2014-03-21 03:59:28 PM
Father of autistic kid myself, and knowing that outings can be very difficult, I will NOT put people through crap because I fell entitled to do so.

Last couple of times we took her out after several years, (due her her behavior in public was dangerous to others and herself) she has stabilized a LOT and the outings went very well, if anythign, she was better behaved than most at the restaurants.

Last time in a theater is so long ago that I can't remember what movie is was, but the thing was, we sat in an easy to exit location, had lots of popcorn which is her favourite snack-food anyways, and aside having to bring her to the bathroom a couple of times, it had gone fairly well, at least, nothing that caused a scene or cause anyone any trouble or destroyed their movie experience.

But I see that this thread is full of victims, so...
 
2014-03-21 04:00:04 PM

Ant: hb0mb: You don't have to avoid movies if you have a loud/noisy child.  Just go super early during the week.  I take my 2 yr old and baby to kids movies sometimes (usually a while after the movie has been released) and we almost always have the theatre to ourselves.

Unless they're extremely quiet, this is still not OK, IMO.


Yea, I'm sure it's offensive to all the other people who aren't in the theater.
 
2014-03-21 04:00:20 PM

gopher321: "How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie. Movie theatres are supposed to be open to the public. This is a kind gesture but does nothing to promote understanding, tolerance or acceptance," a commenter wrote.


Tolerance and acceptance lasts about 5 minutes for me. After that, if your squalling kid (23 or not) doesn't shut his drool hole, here come my popcorn at your head.


This would make me fear for my life, so I would be justified in shooting you.
 
2014-03-21 04:01:24 PM
I imagine several of the posters here have been tossed from public venues for one reason or another.
 
2014-03-21 04:02:50 PM
I once took the family on a vacation to Disney World.  We had reservations for lunch at a restaurant that, while not the most expensive in the "world", was going to cost us about $150 for a family of four.  We were seated next to an man or woman who looked to be in the 50s, who had a child of about 12 with them who was in a wheelchair, and clearly had multiple issues.  The two parents looked absolutely exhausted.  Two minutes after we were seated, the child started screaming / moaning so loud that I couldn't hear anyone at my table speaking.  It continued for 10 minutes, and the parents made no move to leave or attempt to calm the child (if that was even possible).  We sat there and had our lunch, and it was one of the worst experiences of my life.  Looking back, I should have said screw political correctness, and demanded to be moved or just left.

I don't care what your situation - or the situation of your child - if you cannot leave the house without your child ruining the environment of everyone around him/her, you do not leave your house with your child.
 
2014-03-21 04:03:34 PM
Okay, those that need a second ssource other than The Blaze, here's a local account.

/haven't seen so many sober assholes than before a Patriots game in the 70s
 
2014-03-21 04:03:53 PM

R.A.Danny: durbnpoisn: R.A.Danny: durbnpoisn: But the content of the actual article, is served up from some external source that is blocked by my company.

That really is your problem.

Perhaps.  But it's not my fault.
It's seems to me that it's up to the provider of the site to actually, you know, provide.

They do. The fact that your company blocks it isn't their issue.


Except that the only reason the company blocks it is that wherever it's coming from is already blacklisted for some reason.
I find that somewhat disturbing.
I'm just pointing out to everyone that the site in question here is using a backdoor.  And that's not cool.

But whatever...  As far as TFA goes - though I couldn't read it, I've gotten enough from this thread to form my opinion...

I am of the general sentiment here that this woman should have known better than to expose her son to a situation that would likely be really bad for his condition.  It's not everyone else's fault that the dude can't handle it, no matter what the reason.
If she is really concerned about getting the dude to the movies, she should have gone when it's less crowded - and perhaps give him some earplugs just in case the previews (as they are known to be) are too jarring.
 
2014-03-21 04:04:30 PM

433: That was a T-H-E-A-T-E-R, for movies, not a T-H-E-A-T-R-E, for stage.  Unless Canada has different rules for that.


We do, we spell it correctly regardless of screen or stage.
 
2014-03-21 04:05:08 PM

slayer199: How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie. Movie theatres are supposed to be open to the public. This is a kind gesture but does nothing to promote understanding, tolerance or acceptance

How sad it is that people feel that the majority of people paying for a movie should be subjected to a disturbance.  Wait until it comes out on video if your child cannot behave (irrespective of any limitation they may have).


Some theaters near me have special showings for people who might be disruptive OR react weirdly to the stimuli in the movie for whatever reason.  It's during the day, they don't turn the lights down all the way, the volume isn't quite as crazy, and it's acceptable for people to talk/walk around whatever it is.  It's pretty much made for families like the one in TFA.  Or anyone who just wants to go, for that matter.

But yeah at a normal showing, not so cool.

I should be in the kitchen: Or go when the theater is empty (weekday, matinee, whatever) and time your arrival so you miss the previews.


Also this. I don't want to see 20 minutes of regular product advertising and then 10 minutes of previews before the flick, so I always just show up late (I'm never at the movies right when it comes out, so it's usually not a problem finding a seat).
 
2014-03-21 04:07:11 PM
I see you have a special needs child...allow me to assist you in the manner that you feel you should be:

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-21 04:07:20 PM

durbnpoisn: Except that the only reason the company blocks it is that wherever it's coming from is already blacklisted for some reason.
I find that somewhat disturbing.
I'm just pointing out to everyone that the site in question here is using a backdoor.  And that's not cool.


It's called a link. AND it is from a Canadian website. A lot of ads are blocked merely for that reason. There is nothing that cbc.ca is doing that is incorrect, your IT staff (or more likely the canned proxy they are using) is blocking something that you think is legitimate, so talk to them, not cbc.ca.
 
2014-03-21 04:07:22 PM

bingethinker:  Morons. You're not in your living room.


Run low on Apple threads for your insults?
 
2014-03-21 04:08:38 PM

elvindeath: I once took the family on a vacation to Disney World.  We had reservations for lunch at a restaurant that, while not the most expensive in the "world", was going to cost us about $150 for a family of four.  We were seated next to an man or woman who looked to be in the 50s, who had a child of about 12 with them who was in a wheelchair, and clearly had multiple issues.  The two parents looked absolutely exhausted.  Two minutes after we were seated, the child started screaming / moaning so loud that I couldn't hear anyone at my table speaking.  It continued for 10 minutes, and the parents made no move to leave or attempt to calm the child (if that was even possible).  We sat there and had our lunch, and it was one of the worst experiences of my life.  Looking back, I should have said screw political correctness, and demanded to be moved or just left.

I don't care what your situation - or the situation of your child - if you cannot leave the house without your child ruining the environment of everyone around him/her, you do not leave your house with your child.


There is nothing wrong with discretely asking the host to reseat you.  Just because you don't want to be an ass and condemn or judge the challeneged family doesn't mean that you should have to endure it if accomodations can be made.
 
2014-03-21 04:09:24 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Mikey1969: Yeah it is. It's not an excuse for continuing a disturbance

True; that was my (perhaps poorly worded) statement was intended to say. Then again, I don't see a single short outburst as "causing a disturbance"; I've a bit thicker skin.


OK, fair enough. I do hope in the future that this woman modifies her movie trips in order to try and work WITH her community, whether it's going to matinees with less people, or just sitting out the previews.

OtherLittleGuy: Okay, those that need a second ssource other than The Blaze, here's a local account.

/haven't seen so many sober assholes than before a Patriots game in the 70s


FTA:

Walston is renting the Regal Cinema in Kingston for a showing of "Muppets Most Wanted." Close to 300 kids, including many with special needs, will attend.

As much as I think the woman was probably right in her account of the crowd and I think people need to not be such big dicks, I would STILL not want to be hanging out with even 20 kids with autism at a movie.
 
2014-03-21 04:09:48 PM
Working face-to-face with customer for the past ten years, in retail and then foodservice, 99% of the time I've been told "my son is autistic" it's been a freakin' non-sequitur.

"Sorry, ma'am, we're clean outta Neo-Vortex Megasomething Batman, I even checked the basement."
"Oh!  But my son's autistic!"

Okay, what the fark you want me to do?  There's literally no type of special treatment we can give your son in this case, lady, follow me to a computer terminal and find out if they got it at any of our other branches, like everybody else has to do if they really want that toy for their little angel.
 
2014-03-21 04:11:59 PM

Mikey1969: FTA:

Walston is renting the Regal Cinema in Kingston for a showing of "Muppets Most Wanted." Close to 300 kids, including many with special needs, will attend.

As much as I think the woman was probably right in her account of the crowd and I think people need to not be such big dicks, I would STILL not want to be hanging out with even 20 kids with autism at a movie.


...which is why she's renting out the theater.  She's doing the right thing.
 
2014-03-21 04:12:45 PM
This could have easily been solved............ Put him in one of these:

www.discountramps.com

After you strap him into:

themommyproject.typepad.com

And stay home and rent him something he can relate to, like:

www.movieposter.com

s3.discshop.se

TADA!!!! PROBLEM SOLVED!!
 
2014-03-21 04:13:07 PM

allylloyd: I don't think most of you would know proper English grammar, if it slapped you in the face.


I love when this happens.
 
2014-03-21 04:22:40 PM

433: That was a T-H-E-A-T-E-R, for movies, not a T-H-E-A-T-R-E, for stage.  Unless Canada has different rules for that.


This happened in Massachusetts, which is not in Canada.
 
2014-03-21 04:24:13 PM
Oh good, I don't feel like such an insensitive cretin now. I read this story this morning on a blog and the comments were just a bunch of mothers b*tching about the horrible people/MONTSERS making this woman and her son have sad fee fees.
 
2014-03-21 04:25:52 PM

elvindeath: Looking back, I should have said screw political correctness, and demanded to be moved or just left.


Allowance for human frailty is "political correctness"? What's "political" about it?
 
2014-03-21 04:26:24 PM

itazurakko: Mikey1969: FTA:

Walston is renting the Regal Cinema in Kingston for a showing of "Muppets Most Wanted." Close to 300 kids, including many with special needs, will attend.

As much as I think the woman was probably right in her account of the crowd and I think people need to not be such big dicks, I would STILL not want to be hanging out with even 20 kids with autism at a movie.

...which is why she's renting out the theater.  She's doing the right thing.


It would still be a Calgon(Take me away!) day by the end for the parents and staff, I bet... Still, it's a good outcome for this mess.
 
2014-03-21 04:31:08 PM

MycroftHolmes: There is nothing wrong with discretely asking the host to reseat you. Just because you don't want to be an ass and condemn or judge the challeneged family doesn't mean that you should have to endure it if accomodations can be made.



Why should he move?  They're the ones who suck.
 
2014-03-21 04:36:35 PM

The_Sponge: MycroftHolmes: There is nothing wrong with discretely asking the host to reseat you. Just because you don't want to be an ass and condemn or judge the challeneged family doesn't mean that you should have to endure it if accomodations can be made.


Why should he move?  They're the ones who suck.


It is the accepted etiquette in restaurants that if someone is doing something that you find objectionable, you can ask to be moved.  This avoids putting the restaurant staff in the position of trying to play judge and jury to determine which party is really in the wrong.

In cases of an obviously out of control kid, better managed restaurants will discretely handle the situation.  If they don't, it is fair to assume that they have been trained to avoid confrontation, so asking to be moved rather than asking that they please kick that other family out is a request that is much more likely to be honored.
 
2014-03-21 04:37:18 PM
Go to one of these instead:
www.411drivein.com
 
2014-03-21 04:38:17 PM
Maybe you farkers can wiegh in on this.

Went to see a movie (Elysium I think),  and just before the movie starts they bring in a group of older (25 years or so?) of really retarded people. The smile and literally drool all over the place retarded. But they were friendly and they waved as they went by like they were in a retard parade. Well they were all pretty good during the movie, but this one guy they parked next to me in a wheelchair would hold his hands over his ears and make a really loud "ARRRRRRAAAAAAHHHHHRRRRRROOOOOOOH" noise during and part that started to get moderatly loud (of which there were many) and would keep that sound up during the noise and for about 30 seconds after until he calmed down.

His caretaker(?) sat next to him the whole time and didn't do anything about it. And this guy was farking loud. Like hard to hear the damn movie loud. Am I right to get pissed off about that? I mean I paid my money to watch the movie. I want peace while I'm watching, and *I'm* expected to be quiet. Now I'm glad the group takes the retarded people out. I think they should. But maybe to parks, playgrounds, bowling, and ice cream or other places where it's okay to be loud. If you know they are gonna be making a fark-ton of noise, maybe you shouldn't take them to the movies? If a 'normal' person was shouting and causing a disruption, they'd kick *him* out. Are we just supposed to let it slide because they got the short end of the genetic stick? I don't mind if I am grabbing some lunch at the mall and some kid is singing the potato song at the top of his lungs, it's normally noisy there anyway. I don't mind if he sits next to me as long as he's not grabbing things off my plate or throwing boogers at me. But I want to be able to watch the movie undisturbed.
 
2014-03-21 04:42:18 PM

serpent_sky: DerAppie: Because come hell or high weather, he will enjoy a life with all the small pleasures normal people have, whether he likes it or not.

Or, probably more likely, mom wants to see movies and well, she can usually calm him when he freaks out in movie theatres, so the rest of the world should deal if she can't.  It really doesn't seem like she is putting her son first if she repeatedly puts him in entirely unnecessary to survive situations that cause him to freak out.

I mean, like I said before, if he freaked at the doctor's office, she could explain the situation, but that he needs to be there for his health. That's totally different.  Even if he freaked out, he needs medical attention, so she has to put him through it.  Why do it unless it's absolutely necessary? At the cost of others, and then make yourself a martyr because you made a stupid mistake?


I think the sarcasm was lost in that abomination of a comment I'll call my previous post. The "he will enjoy it whether he enjoys it or not" reflects the idea that mom is doing it for mom. She is trying to force his life in a "normal" shape because likely that is how she copes with the idea that her son isn't like other 23 year old people.

/Fixed the last comment a bit
 
2014-03-21 04:42:55 PM

gopher321: "How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie. Movie theatres are supposed to be open to the public. This is a kind gesture but does nothing to promote understanding, tolerance or acceptance," a commenter wrote.


Tolerance and acceptance lasts about 5 minutes for me. After that, if your squalling kid (23 or not) doesn't shut his drool hole, here come my popcorn at your head.


You can watch at home.
 
2014-03-21 04:46:05 PM

farkingismybusiness: At least he wasn't shot dead for texting.


The guy in question wasn't shot dead for texting, he was shot dead for throwing popcorn.  There IS a difference.
 
2014-03-21 04:46:26 PM
AMC Sensory Friendly Films  http://www.amctheatres.com/programs/sensory-friendly-films

They lower the volume, brighten the lights and skip the previews.
 
2014-03-21 04:49:07 PM

serpent_sky: She is aware of things like DVDs, cable, Netflix, and other such things that exist? If movies and movie previews are known to agitate your "child" (who is an adult, like it or not) why on earth would you go to a theatre? One, you know the other patrons want and expect quiet. And two, why the hell are you subjecting your son to something you know is likely to agitate and exacerbate his well-documented autism?

If she was kicked out of something necessary (doctor's office, grocery store, whatever) she'd have a point, but a movie theatre is not essential to life and the reaction seems perfectly normal to me. "He's autistic" doesn't matter when people paid upwards of $10.50 to watch a movie in peace.

And again, seriously, if she knows it agitates him, why the hell would she subject him to it?


Exactly. Crowded places with loud noises are an autist person's bane to say the least. Though it'd have been funny as hell if she woulda taken him to a Rammstein arena show, especially when the pyro and mini-explosions kick in!
 
2014-03-21 04:49:36 PM

shtychkn: I feel her pain in wanting her son to have as normal a life as possible.  It's a shame this doesn't exist for her:

[katespiritu.com image 850x1062]


Thank you, thank you and thank you again.  Please let me know when the theatre is going to open.

I stopped going about 7 years ago and have no plans to return until the Dome opens up.
 
2014-03-21 04:52:25 PM

kling_klang_bed: serpent_sky: She is aware of things like DVDs, cable, Netflix, and other such things that exist? If movies and movie previews are known to agitate your "child" (who is an adult, like it or not) why on earth would you go to a theatre? One, you know the other patrons want and expect quiet. And two, why the hell are you subjecting your son to something you know is likely to agitate and exacerbate his well-documented autism?

If she was kicked out of something necessary (doctor's office, grocery store, whatever) she'd have a point, but a movie theatre is not essential to life and the reaction seems perfectly normal to me. "He's autistic" doesn't matter when people paid upwards of $10.50 to watch a movie in peace.

And again, seriously, if she knows it agitates him, why the hell would she subject him to it?

Exactly. Crowded places with loud noises are an autist person's bane to say the least. Though it'd have been funny as hell if she woulda taken him to a Rammstein arena show, especially when the pyro and mini-explosions kick in!


He probably wouldn't get noticed.
 
2014-03-21 04:55:28 PM

Miss Alexandra: JesusJuice: Mikey1969: JesusJuice: How did they draw it out? If they hadn't made her feel so unwelcome, she probably would have stayed. She gave them the choice of either being mean to her or having their movie experience ruined.

You really think one person stood up for the crowd and said "Hey, you're being too loud"? You know exactly how these things play out, everyone wants to talk shiat, and then when the woman says something back, everyone else wants to answer back, then they spend more time verbally 'high fiving' each other, then someone else feels that their particularly witty rejoinder didn't get the attention it deserved, so THEY pipe up, and then someone else chimes in, etc... I can guarantee you the shiat talking went on longer than this dude's initial freakout would have lasted.

It doesn't mean that it wasn't a disruption, it just takes someone incredibly naive to assume that this shiat didn't go on 10 times longer than it needed to because everyone wanted to talk a little more trash.

If it had been just one person giving her shiat she could have dismissed them as a lone asshole. She can't really ignore the whole theater telling her to GTFO. It sounds like there were multiple instances before people got aggressive, so I suspect they escalated to the level needed to make her leave.

I also wonder if she didn't egg things on.  Remember we're only hearing *her* story.


This whole thing stinks of a ploy for her to get attention.

She knows he's afraid of previews, but takes him anyway.

She ignored his repeated requests to leave.

She argues with the audience and tries to "explain" her son's autistic.

She makes a big stink about it afterwards.

...

I call AW. Borderline Munchausens by proxy since she's hurting her kid to get attention for herself.
 
2014-03-21 05:01:50 PM

Thunderpipes: Just shut up. Not our fault you had a defective cooter egg.


You mean like your mother did?
 
2014-03-21 05:05:36 PM

The Goddamn Batman: In her blog post, Colson, author of "Dancing with Max," a memoir about her son, wrote that Max became frightened during the previews, as he often does, according to The Patriot Ledger.

Then why in the blue hell do you keep taking him?


I have to wonder whether the problem is specific to the previews or not.  If he often gets frightened during the previews, then maybe the problem could be managed by timing things so that the previews are over when they enter the theater?

I mean, if it's a reoccurring problem, then I have to wonder what steps have been tried in an effort to come up with a compromise that works for Max and isn't quite so disruptive.

And then, yes, if all these stepss have been tried and this kind of disruption still happens, then it may be time to give up on taking Max to the cinema.  Or, if there is a theater near them that does "kid showings" where misbehaving children are expected, take him to one of those.
 
2014-03-21 05:06:50 PM

Madame Ovary: AMC Sensory Friendly Films  http://www.amctheatres.com/programs/sensory-friendly-films

They lower the volume, brighten the lights and skip the previews.


A friend of mine helped put together an autistic-friendly production of The Lion King, basically the same approach.  It was really great for the kids and their parents.
 
2014-03-21 05:07:32 PM

allylloyd: Some of you must really love when old white men go to the movies and shot people for texting...


Hey, you "take your victim as you find him."  If a relatively healthy young man decides to direct violence against a much older person and gets shot for his trouble, where's the problem?  It's the same deal when young asshats decide to target Grandma for a strongarm robbery to get the proceeds of her Social Security check.

"Be nice to Grandma, because there's a pretty good chance that she's packing..."
 
2014-03-21 05:08:38 PM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: farkingismybusiness: At least he wasn't shot dead for texting.

The guy in question wasn't shot dead for texting, he was shot dead for throwing popcorn.  There IS a difference.


Well at least it was justified.
 
2014-03-21 05:09:33 PM

MythDragon: Maybe you farkers can wiegh in on this.

Went to see a movie (Elysium I think),  and just before the movie starts they bring in a group of older (25 years or so?) of really retarded people. The smile and literally drool all over the place retarded. But they were friendly and they waved as they went by like they were in a retard parade. Well they were all pretty good during the movie, but this one guy they parked next to me in a wheelchair would hold his hands over his ears and make a really loud "ARRRRRRAAAAAAHHHHHRRRRRROOOOOOOH" noise during and part that started to get moderatly loud (of which there were many) and would keep that sound up during the noise and for about 30 seconds after until he calmed down.

His caretaker(?) sat next to him the whole time and didn't do anything about it. And this guy was farking loud. Like hard to hear the damn movie loud. Am I right to get pissed off about that? I mean I paid my money to watch the movie. I want peace while I'm watching, and *I'm* expected to be quiet. Now I'm glad the group takes the retarded people out. I think they should. But maybe to parks, playgrounds, bowling, and ice cream or other places where it's okay to be loud. If you know they are gonna be making a fark-ton of noise, maybe you shouldn't take them to the movies? If a 'normal' person was shouting and causing a disruption, they'd kick *him* out. Are we just supposed to let it slide because they got the short end of the genetic stick? I don't mind if I am grabbing some lunch at the mall and some kid is singing the potato song at the top of his lungs, it's normally noisy there anyway. I don't mind if he sits next to me as long as he's not grabbing things off my plate or throwing boogers at me. But I want to be able to watch the movie undisturbed.


Holy shiat I just about pissed myself laughing!

/ and, of course, THIS

:)
 
2014-03-21 05:10:14 PM

scottydoesntknow: Goddammit, I read that whole farking thing and still didn't have my only question answered: WHAT WAS THE MOVIE?!


Since everyone being Christian was a major point of her essay, you should just ask yourself, Which Movie Would Jesus See?
 
2014-03-21 05:12:06 PM

TheOtherMisterP: Nothing in the article to me suggests that the mother was "furious". She was certainly upset, but she also seemed to understand the awkward position she was placing the other movie-goers in.

Overall, the actual article is a very positive, uplifting piece about someone trying to do something good after a bad incident. Subby is trying to stir up an angry mob.


On the other hand, people rent movie theater for unruly children to have parties all the time, so this is not even news and reporting it as such deserves a facepalm.
 
2014-03-21 05:12:56 PM

433: That was a T-H-E-A-T-E-R, for movies, not a T-H-E-A-T-R-E, for stage.  Unless Canada has different rules for that.


Pretty much everyone has a different rule for that:

"Some Americans do make distinctions-for instance, that a theater is a venue while theatre is an art form, or that a theater is a movie theater while a theatre is a drama venue. There is nothing wrong with making these distinctions, but they are not consistently borne out in general usage. Even in 21st-century writing on the art of theater, the more American spelling now appears for all senses of the word."
 
2014-03-21 05:14:55 PM

MythDragon: Maybe you farkers can wiegh in on this.

Went to see a movie (Elysium I think),  and just before the movie starts they bring in a group of older (25 years or so?) of really retarded people. The smile and literally drool all over the place retarded. But they were friendly and they waved as they went by like they were in a retard parade. Well they were all pretty good during the movie, but this one guy they parked next to me in a wheelchair would hold his hands over his ears and make a really loud "ARRRRRRAAAAAAHHHHHRRRRRROOOOOOOH" noise during and part that started to get moderatly loud (of which there were many) and would keep that sound up during the noise and for about 30 seconds after until he calmed down.

His caretaker(?) sat next to him the whole time and didn't do anything about it. And this guy was farking loud. Like hard to hear the damn movie loud. Am I right to get pissed off about that? I mean I paid my money to watch the movie.


Absolutely. And you are also within your rights to demand your money back. You go to a movie with the expectation of being able to hear and enjoy it, and the theatre is obligated to remove those who are misbehaving. Same with a restaurant.

Of course, exceptions are made for kid-friendly shows and family restaurants where outbursts are expected.
 
2014-03-21 05:14:58 PM

farkingismybusiness: Secret Master of All Flatulence: farkingismybusiness: At least he wasn't shot dead for texting.

The guy in question wasn't shot dead for texting, he was shot dead for throwing popcorn.  There IS a difference.

Well at least it was justified.


I'm kind of curious about what information will be presented at trial.  IIRC, the media reported that the dead guy's SO was shot in the hand by the same shot that killed the younger guy.  It's quite possible, since apparently only one shot was fired, that the woman had her hand on her SO's chest, trying to hold him back as he was trying to harm the old guy.  We'll have to wait for the trial to find out, I guess....
 
2014-03-21 05:15:02 PM

WhiskeySticks: This is awful thinking, but right away I thought of making these "movies with max" events a television show in the same format as Mystery Science Theater, silhouettes and all.


I have it on good authority that plans are already in the works to make this happen in the not-too-distant future.
 
2014-03-21 05:17:50 PM

ciberido: 433: That was a T-H-E-A-T-E-R, for movies, not a T-H-E-A-T-R-E, for stage.  Unless Canada has different rules for that.

Pretty much everyone has a different rule for that:

"Some Americans do make distinctions-for instance, that a theater is a venue while theatre is an art form, or that a theater is a movie theater while a theatre is a drama venue. There is nothing wrong with making these distinctions, but they are not consistently borne out in general usage. Even in 21st-century writing on the art of theater, the more American spelling now appears for all senses of the word."


"The 'theatre'? Hey fellas, the 'theatre'! Well, ooh la di da, Mr. French Man.  It's a movie hole!"
 
2014-03-21 05:18:22 PM

Mikey1969: JesusJuice: How did they draw it out? If they hadn't made her feel so unwelcome, she probably would have stayed. She gave them the choice of either being mean to her or having their movie experience ruined.

You really think one person stood up for the crowd and said "Hey, you're being too loud"? You know exactly how these things play out, everyone wants to talk shiat, and then when the woman says something back, everyone else wants to answer back, then they spend more time verbally 'high fiving' each other, then someone else feels that their particularly witty rejoinder didn't get the attention it deserved, so THEY pipe up, and then someone else chimes in, etc... I can guarantee you the shiat talking went on longer than this dude's initial freakout would have lasted.

It doesn't mean that it wasn't a disruption, it just takes someone incredibly naive to assume that this shiat didn't go on 10 times longer than it needed to because everyone wanted to talk a little more trash.


Where do you hang out? Maybe living in Texas shelters me from certain things but around here someone has to be incredibly obnoxious before anyone gets on their case. I've never ever seen this mob hurling insults thing in person.
 
2014-03-21 05:18:37 PM
ok, but I guess calling the other kind of theatre a "play hole" might get awkward.
 
2014-03-21 05:23:06 PM

sunnewswebguy: Sure thing tough guy, and you'll look real funny trying to remove that popcorn bucket out of butthole 3 minutes later...


Don't you dare shove anything in butthole 3.  You'll have to submit a written request to shove things in buttholes 1 and 2 but under certain circumstances, it is permissible.
 
2014-03-21 05:24:19 PM

Unoriginal_Username: notatrollorami: Unoriginal_Username: allylloyd: Unoriginal_Username: My 6 yr old son is autistic. We brought him to see the Lego movie, it was the first time he'd ever been in a theater, we weren't sure how he'd be. I sat in a spot where I could get out quickly without disturbing anyone just in case. We also brought a small toy for him to play with.
He was quieter then the kids who sat behind us.

This lady is an idiot. If her son can't handle sitting still or being quiet, and she doesn't want to rent the whole theater, wait for movies to get released onto dvd and stay home.

Parenting 101!

//Children under a certain age can't sit still or be quiet for a long length of time--bring them something to play with.

I was actually surprised. He was enjoying the movie so much that he sat quiet for an hour. Then he came to where I was sitting, hopped up on my lap and watched the rest of the movie.

/The Lego movie, so good it keeps little monsters quiet

I took my kids to that movie as a treat since wife/mom was out of town. I had no expectations at all; just trying to keep my kiddos entertained.

It was F'ing badass. Loved it. I'll watch it again when they get the DVD.

///Everything is awesome!!!!

oh Gods, my son loves that song. and yes, the movie was fantastic.
I will own the Blue ray. I'm not a Will Ferrell fan, but he did a great job with that one


I see you're reading them Rick Riordon books as well. We may need to start a club.
 
2014-03-21 05:25:52 PM

imfallen_angel: Father of autistic kid myself, and knowing that outings can be very difficult, I will NOT put people through crap because I fell entitled to do so.

Last couple of times we took her out after several years, (due her her behavior in public was dangerous to others and herself) she has stabilized a LOT and the outings went very well, if anythign, she was better behaved than most at the restaurants.

Last time in a theater is so long ago that I can't remember what movie is was, but the thing was, we sat in an easy to exit location, had lots of popcorn which is her favourite snack-food anyways, and aside having to bring her to the bathroom a couple of times, it had gone fairly well, at least, nothing that caused a scene or cause anyone any trouble or destroyed their movie experience.

But I see that this thread is full of victims, so...


Have a Happy Father's Day

//Buy your wife something nice for Mother's Day
 
2014-03-21 05:26:32 PM

NEPAman: notatrollorami: NEPAman: The_Sponge: hb0mb: and we almost always have the theatre to ourselves.


CSB:

The last time I had a theater to myself was an early Sunday morning showing of the Evil Dead remake.  Holy f*ck that was creepy....almost wanted to head straight to church.

/Got my money's worth.

Double Plus Ungood CSB:

Midnight showing of Star Trek Into Darkness.  Just me, 3D glasses and one couple.

/The howling rainstorm outside might've been a factor.

//Not when you live four blocks from the theater.

///Downtown Fort Worth.  She's a beautiful thing.

7th street movie tavern?

The AMC off of 3rd Street.


As soon as I posted that I thought "that's not really downtown dipshiat".
 
2014-03-21 05:27:01 PM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: farkingismybusiness: Secret Master of All Flatulence: farkingismybusiness: At least he wasn't shot dead for texting.

The guy in question wasn't shot dead for texting, he was shot dead for throwing popcorn.  There IS a difference.

Well at least it was justified.

I'm kind of curious about what information will be presented at trial.  IIRC, the media reported that the dead guy's SO was shot in the hand by the same shot that killed the younger guy.  It's quite possible, since apparently only one shot was fired, that the woman had her hand on her SO's chest, trying to hold him back as he was trying to harm the old guy.  We'll have to wait for the trial to find out, I guess....


I am sorry, bu t the threshold for being in honest fear for your life has to be higher than 'A man might have been walking towards me in a  crowded theater after throwing popcorn at me'.  This is murder, plain and simple.

If I can legitimately shoot someone because I am afraid that the situation could potentially escalate, and there are possible scenarios whereby my life was in danger, you are going to see a lot more shooting.  People will start spraying bullets into the cars of random teens because they were afraid that there might be a chance of an escalation.

I have a gun for home defense, but have no interest in carrying one.  I can usually avoid most situations where a gun would be needed for self defense, and with no gun available, I can usually find alternatives, including de-escalation, to situations that don't involve killing a guy who was throwing popcorn or playing rap music.

/Not really ranting at you, but at the bad gun owners.
 
2014-03-21 05:28:29 PM

KidneyStone: oldfarthenry: Is anyone else shamefully laughing at the thought of a theatre full of Tourette's sufferers swearing their heads off during a screening of some church-lady approved film?

*snicker-snicker-snicher-shame-guilt-snicker-snicker....*

My X is a special needs teacher and we went to some special needs conference in Denver.  I was in a room full of kids that "ain't right in the hey-ed" and send me to hell if you want, a lot of what they did made me laugh.  And cringe.

In related news, the X begged me to buy her this shirt and i refused because if she wore it in public (which she would) there's simply no doubt a parent would see it.

[i1.cpcache.com image 460x460]


I went out of my way to be field-trip mommy for The Boy's Special Ed class. We'd do the tour and the docent would ask at the end if anybody had any questions. Usually everyone raised their hands:
"Do you have a dog?"
"What's your favorite color?"
"Is that your real hair?"
And so on. Watching the docent react was priceless.
 
2014-03-21 05:29:02 PM

elvindeath: I once took the family on a vacation to Disney World.  We had reservations for lunch at a restaurant that, while not the most expensive in the "world", was going to cost us about $150 for a family of four.  We were seated next to an man or woman who looked to be in the 50s, who had a child of about 12 with them who was in a wheelchair, and clearly had multiple issues.  The two parents looked absolutely exhausted.  Two minutes after we were seated, the child started screaming / moaning so loud that I couldn't hear anyone at my table speaking.  It continued for 10 minutes, and the parents made no move to leave or attempt to calm the child (if that was even possible).  We sat there and had our lunch, and it was one of the worst experiences of my life.  Looking back, I should have said screw political correctness, and demanded to be moved or just left.

I don't care what your situation - or the situation of your child - if you cannot leave the house without your child ruining the environment of everyone around him/her, you do not leave your house with your child.


Why do that? Why not just kill them when their born or better  yet, have the abortion "in case" they might be that way...

//Do the world a favor, get a vasectomy!
 
2014-03-21 05:33:56 PM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: farkingismybusiness: At least he wasn't shot dead for texting.

The guy in question wasn't shot dead for texting, he was shot dead for throwing popcorn.  There IS a difference.


Yes, there is. POPCORN IS DANGEROUS.

//It comes from a vegetable; vegetables kill you.
//Texting while driving is safe.
 
2014-03-21 05:40:06 PM

allylloyd: elvindeath: I once took the family on a vacation to Disney World.  We had reservations for lunch at a restaurant that, while not the most expensive in the "world", was going to cost us about $150 for a family of four.  We were seated next to an man or woman who looked to be in the 50s, who had a child of about 12 with them who was in a wheelchair, and clearly had multiple issues.  The two parents looked absolutely exhausted.  Two minutes after we were seated, the child started screaming / moaning so loud that I couldn't hear anyone at my table speaking.  It continued for 10 minutes, and the parents made no move to leave or attempt to calm the child (if that was even possible).  We sat there and had our lunch, and it was one of the worst experiences of my life.  Looking back, I should have said screw political correctness, and demanded to be moved or just left.

I don't care what your situation - or the situation of your child - if you cannot leave the house without your child ruining the environment of everyone around him/her, you do not leave your house with your child.

Why do that? Why not just kill them when their born or better  yet, have the abortion "in case" they might be that way...

//Do the world a favor, get a vasectomy!


Sorry, misspelling ---they're

MycroftHolmes: Secret Master of All Flatulence: farkingismybusiness: Secret Master of All Flatulence: farkingismybusiness: At least he wasn't shot dead for texting.

The guy in question wasn't shot dead for texting, he was shot dead for throwing popcorn.  There IS a difference.

Well at least it was justified.

I'm kind of curious about what information will be presented at trial.  IIRC, the media reported that the dead guy's SO was shot in the hand by the same shot that killed the younger guy.  It's quite possible, since apparently only one shot was fired, that the woman had her hand on her SO's chest, trying to hold him back as he was trying to harm the old guy.  We'll have to wait for the trial to find out, I guess....

I am sorry, bu t the threshold for being in honest fear for your life has to be higher than 'A man might have been walking towards me in a  crowded theater after throwing popcorn at me'.  This is murder, plain and simple.

If I can legitimately shoot someone because I am afraid that the situation could potentially escalate, and there are possible scenarios whereby my life was in danger, you are going to see a lot more shooting.  People will start spraying bullets into the cars of random teens because they were afraid that there might be a chance of an escalation.

I have a gun for home defense, but have no interest in carrying one.  I can usually avoid most situations where a gun would be needed for self defense, and with no gun available, I can usually find alternatives, including de-escalation, to situations that don't involve killing a guy who was throwing popcorn or playing rap music.

/Not really ranting at you, but at the bad gun owners.


Do me a favor and please post this to a blog (pro-gun and anti-gun sites).
 
2014-03-21 05:40:18 PM

Ant: allylloyd: People with dementia and Alzheimer's are worse than kids with autism.

Don't take them to movie theaters then.


Just drive them to an empty lot and tell them they're at the drive in
 
2014-03-21 05:44:40 PM

Satanic_Hamster: gopher321: "How sad that we have to rent an entire movie theatre so our kids can watch a movie. Movie theatres are supposed to be open to the public. This is a kind gesture but does nothing to promote understanding, tolerance or acceptance," a commenter wrote.


Tolerance and acceptance lasts about 5 minutes for me. After that, if your squalling kid (23 or not) doesn't shut his drool hole, here come my popcorn at your head.

shiat man, I've had ADULTS kicked out of theaters, much less kids.

LOVE Alamo Drafthouse Cinema, they're real damn good about kicking out disturbances.


Just saw an advanced screening for the new Muppets and Divergent movies on Wednesday night. There were members of both production houses standing guard along the aisles of the theater. If you so much as took out your phone--even just to look at the time--you were asked to leave. Not one person did.

That was the best movie experience I've had in recent years.
 
2014-03-21 05:46:39 PM

JesusJuice: Miss Alexandra: JesusJuice: Mikey1969: JesusJuice: How did they draw it out? If they hadn't made her feel so unwelcome, she probably would have stayed. She gave them the choice of either being mean to her or having their movie experience ruined.

You really think one person stood up for the crowd and said "Hey, you're being too loud"? You know exactly how these things play out, everyone wants to talk shiat, and then when the woman says something back, everyone else wants to answer back, then they spend more time verbally 'high fiving' each other, then someone else feels that their particularly witty rejoinder didn't get the attention it deserved, so THEY pipe up, and then someone else chimes in, etc... I can guarantee you the shiat talking went on longer than this dude's initial freakout would have lasted.

It doesn't mean that it wasn't a disruption, it just takes someone incredibly naive to assume that this shiat didn't go on 10 times longer than it needed to because everyone wanted to talk a little more trash.

If it had been just one person giving her shiat she could have dismissed them as a lone asshole. She can't really ignore the whole theater telling her to GTFO. It sounds like there were multiple instances before people got aggressive, so I suspect they escalated to the level needed to make her leave.

I also wonder if she didn't egg things on.  Remember we're only hearing *her* story.

This whole thing stinks of a ploy for her to get attention.

She knows he's afraid of previews, but takes him anyway.

She ignored his repeated requests to leave.

She argues with the audience and tries to "explain" her son's autistic.

She makes a big stink about it afterwards.

...

I call AW. Borderline Munchausens by proxy since she's hurting her kid to get attention for herself.


It seems more like a profound sense of entitlement.  She is looking at this from the perspective of how the event impacted her and hers, not how her actions impacted others.  She seems to feel that she was entitled to a movie, regardless of how it affected other movie goers, and seemed honestly confused that they wouldn't stop to listen why it was ok that she (note I am not blaming the special needs person) disrupted their evening.
 
2014-03-21 05:46:49 PM

Fano: Ant: allylloyd: People with dementia and Alzheimer's are worse than kids with autism.

Don't take them to movie theaters then.

Just drive them to an empty lot and tell them they're at the drive in


I still remember going to see James Bond movies at the drive-in...

//Always had arguments with my father. He liked Sean Connery; I liked Roger Moore.
//Pierce Brosnan wasn't bad; of course, I wanted to be Halle Berre.
 
2014-03-21 05:48:45 PM
MycroftHolmes:I am sorry, but the threshold for being in honest fear for your life has to be higher than 'A man might have been walking towards me in a  crowded theater after throwing popcorn at me'.  This is murder, plain and simple.

If I can legitimately shoot someone because I am afraid that the situation could potentially escalate, and there are possible scenarios whereby my life was in danger, you are going to see a lot more shooting.  People will start spraying bullets into the cars of random teens because they were afraid that there might be a chance of an escalation.


I guess it depends on where you live.  Where I live, if you are reasonably put in fear of death or serious bodily injury, you're not under any legal obligation to let the other guy lay a finger on you (much less actually maim you) before you can legally defend yourself, as long as your conduct up to that point was legal, and you had a legal right to be where you were.

When my state went from "may issue" to "shall issue" for CCW permits, we were told that it'd lead to "blood running in the streets!!!", and "Soccer Moms" shooting each other in grocery store parking lots in arguments over parking spaces.  That most emphatically did NOT happen.
 
2014-03-21 05:51:40 PM

allylloyd: elvindeath: I once took the family on a vacation to Disney World.  We had reservations for lunch at a restaurant that, while not the most expensive in the "world", was going to cost us about $150 for a family of four.  We were seated next to an man or woman who looked to be in the 50s, who had a child of about 12 with them who was in a wheelchair, and clearly had multiple issues.  The two parents looked absolutely exhausted.  Two minutes after we were seated, the child started screaming / moaning so loud that I couldn't hear anyone at my table speaking.  It continued for 10 minutes, and the parents made no move to leave or attempt to calm the child (if that was even possible).  We sat there and had our lunch, and it was one of the worst experiences of my life.  Looking back, I should have said screw political correctness, and demanded to be moved or just left.

I don't care what your situation - or the situation of your child - if you cannot leave the house without your child ruining the environment of everyone around him/her, you do not leave your house with your child.

Why do that? Why not just kill them when their born or better  yet, have the abortion "in case" they might be that way...

//Do the world a favor, get a vasectomy!


You are being overly harsh.  It is fair to say that you should not be so self centered as to ruin the experiences of those around you.  Now, there are, of course, unavoidable situations.  And there are environments (for example, a public park) that are more difficult to ruin.  But it is fair to say that if you know your child is prone to loud, uncontrolled meltdowns, do not put him in a situation where that meltdown is likely to be very disurptive to everyone else around him. Screaming three year old at Chuck E. Cheese...nothing ruined.  Screaming three year old at the Opera...you chose poorly.
 
2014-03-21 05:54:44 PM

Sybarite: 433: That was a T-H-E-A-T-E-R, for movies, not a T-H-E-A-T-R-E, for stage.  Unless Canada has different rules for that.


American English is the only place where the theater spelling is standard, but there is absolutely no rule differentiating between the two spellings. People like to make stuff up like "theater" is the building but "theatre" is the art or one spelling is for movies and one if for plays, but there's really no basis for any of that.


CSB:

In 8th grade, I was considered a "smack" in my English class. I had spent a few weeks in Europe before school started, and so I must have had the alternate spelling of "theater" in my head when we took our final spelling test of the year. I had scored 100% on every test up to that point; on that last one, I wrote "theatre" and ruined my streak. The teacher called me out in front of the whole class. I think they were all pretty happy that I blew it.

/CSB
 
2014-03-21 05:55:22 PM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: MycroftHolmes:I am sorry, but the threshold for being in honest fear for your life has to be higher than 'A man might have been walking towards me in a  crowded theater after throwing popcorn at me'.  This is murder, plain and simple.

If I can legitimately shoot someone because I am afraid that the situation could potentially escalate, and there are possible scenarios whereby my life was in danger, you are going to see a lot more shooting.  People will start spraying bullets into the cars of random teens because they were afraid that there might be a chance of an escalation.

I guess it depends on where you live.  Where I live, if you are reasonably put in fear of death or serious bodily injury, you're not under any legal obligation to let the other guy lay a finger on you (much less actually maim you) before you can legally defend yourself, as long as your conduct up to that point was legal, and you had a legal right to be where you were.

When my state went from "may issue" to "shall issue" for CCW permits, we were told that it'd lead to "blood running in the streets!!!", and "Soccer Moms" shooting each other in grocery store parking lots in arguments over parking spaces.  That most emphatically did NOT happen.


The issue I have with that is the inexact threshhold for determining risk.  An unarmed guy in a crowded theater out on a  date with his wife did not pose any reasonable risk.  If the other guy had shot three men advancing on him in a dark alley while holding knives, I would have zero issue.  But the idea that a person can overreact and panic, then shoot someone dead and claim self defense when there was no credible risk is a major problem for me.
 
2014-03-21 05:56:11 PM

allylloyd: Let's just kill all the "bad" people while they're children. In fact, let's abort them because they might "bad" people one day.


You are making up crap I never said in order to argue against your stupid made up crap.  There is a term for people that do that.  The term isn't really suitable for polite company, but since this is Fark, I guess there is no reason I can't point out that you are a lying asshole.
 
2014-03-21 05:57:48 PM

ToastTheRabbit: No sympathy. Procreation is a choice and a gamble and you deal with what you are given in the best way possible.
1. infants - dont take them to movie theaters, sit down resturants (excluding fast food) or planes. Tough shiat no exceptions hire a sitter, if you cant afford one you cant go out. Your baby does not need to see the latest explosion filled super action movie. Its going to scare it you cruel animal.
2. Toddlers - most instances see above
3. kids - mostly ok, keep them out of my better resturants.
4. Teenagers - Lock them away for the next 15 years in a small secluded place
5. adults - fill with booze
6. Elderly - give them a Throne.... they raised their kids better than you
7. Autism - choose your environment wisely. Some of us chose to abstain from procreation. Things that came out of your body are not my responsibility. I am not going to protect, entertain, tolerate your crotch fruit. Your job... not mine.

Thee bigger issue is parents treat children as normal people. they are not. they are unprogrammed. they have no base code to form rules of their own. Parents assume the world will teach them and the world needs to tolerate this learning process and it pisses me off to no end.

I need to stop.. I am going to piss a lot of people off.


Nope. You're gonna sound like an ass is what you're gonna do.
 
2014-03-21 05:58:01 PM

allylloyd: Fano: Ant: allylloyd: People with dementia and Alzheimer's are worse than kids with autism.

Don't take them to movie theaters then.

Just drive them to an empty lot and tell them they're at the drive in

I still remember going to see James Bond movies at the drive-in...

//Always had arguments with my father. He liked Sean Connery; I liked Roger Moore.
//Pierce Brosnan wasn't bad; of course, I wanted to be Halle Berre.


Do me a favor and post this to the IMDB bulletin board (pro-connery or anti-connery)
 
2014-03-21 06:01:15 PM

mbillips: shtychkn: I feel her pain in wanting her son to have as normal a life as possible.  It's a shame this doesn't exist for her:

[katespiritu.com image 850x1062]

That cartoon is a LIE about old people. They SUCK at watching movies. 1. They constantly open noisy hard candy, crinkling the wrappers as long as possible. 2. They make "awww" sounds at anything that draws an emotional response, especially anything that's "cute." 3. They ask their less hard-of-hearing spouses to repeat dialogue they didn't catch because they are deaf old farts.

Lesson learned: Do not go to the Sunday afternoon matinee of an indy film if you don't want to start hating old people.


Agreed
 
2014-03-21 06:02:04 PM

ToastTheRabbit: No sympathy. Procreation is a choice and a gamble and you deal with what you are given in the best way possible.
1. infants - dont take them to movie theaters, sit down resturants (excluding fast food) or planes. Tough shiat no exceptions hire a sitter, if you cant afford one you cant go out. Your baby does not need to see the latest explosion filled super action movie. Its going to scare it you cruel animal.
2. Toddlers - most instances see above
3. kids - mostly ok, keep them out of my better resturants.
4. Teenagers - Lock them away for the next 15 years in a small secluded place
5. adults - fill with booze
6. Elderly - give them a Throne.... they raised their kids better than you
7. Autism - choose your environment wisely. Some of us chose to abstain from procreation. Things that came out of your body are not my responsibility. I am not going to protect, entertain, tolerate your crotch fruit. Your job... not mine.

Thee bigger issue is parents treat children as normal people. they are not. they are unprogrammed. they have no base code to form rules of their own. Parents assume the world will teach them and the world needs to tolerate this learning process and it pisses me off to no end.

I need to stop.. I am going to piss a lot of people off.


I like you.
 
2014-03-21 06:02:19 PM
t

R.A.Danny: No argument about rules. Not being mean even when someone else isn't perfect is also one of them. Yeah, she should be taking the guy to the matinee where there are kids and a lower expectation of a perfect theater experience, but don't be mean to a special needs kid.


They weren't. They did the guy a favor by making his mother take him home, which is what he repeatedly asked for.
We only heard her side of the story, she never even mentions that the guy was upset by this, only that she was. It's all about her.
 
2014-03-21 06:17:33 PM

Headso: Sounds like the lady wasn't "furious" subs, she was bummed how her and her son were heckled out of the place. I don't think I could bring myself to heckle/cheer as a special needs kid and his mom try to leave the theater, you gotta bet a special kinda douchebag for that.


The irony is -- and this is according to the article -- that the son wanted to go home anyway. What are the odds that the heckling was a greater disturbance than a young autistic man telling his mom he wanted to go home? I mean... seriously.

Maybe taking him to the movie theater wasn't the best idea. Or maybe it was part of his therapy, i.e., getting him out and experiencing the world instead of sheltering him from everything. Who knows? I don't. I wasn't there, and I don't know these people. But they weren't causing the confrontation. That's on the hecklers.
 
2014-03-21 06:22:59 PM

RapMstr: actually a local movie chain has special shows with the lights turned up and the sound turned down just for this sort of thing.


Yeah these are called "Stars and strollers" which cater to people which disruptive kids(usually babies, but any disruptive kid fits)
 
2014-03-21 06:24:36 PM
"Hurled insults" was probably more like a couple people saying "SHHHH" or asking her to leave.

She got all wrapped up in her victim complex and in her mind she was on the floor of the Coliseum with jeers raining down upon her kid from ten thousand angry souls.
 
2014-03-21 06:30:36 PM
"LADY! CONTROL YOUR TARD!"
/oldie but a goodie
 
2014-03-21 06:37:37 PM
As the mother of an autistic adult, I believe this woman did just about everything wrong in this case.

Sensory overload happens quick during the previews of upcoming films - the clips are edited to produce a desire to see the movie, after all.  They jump multiple times in a 300 second time frame.  A theater is dark, the sound is loud and depending on where you sit, the feature can be overwhelming.

When my oldest did well on her tests for the week, we would reward her with a trip to the movies.  If she wanted to see something specifically in the theater, either my husband or I would take her and the other parent stayed home with the younger girl.  If we went on a family outing to the movies, it was to the drive in so that the younger one could more easily deal with the situation.  We'd park in the last row so if she needed her battery powered light on, it wouldn't disturb others.  Her attention would be redirected during the previews to help keep her from being overwhelmed.

If we took her out for dinner, it was generally with a large group of family and/or friends - this assured we'd get a closed off room to minimize overload and possible disruption of others' meals.  Casual meals - that's what the mall food court was for.

Granted, it's been years since I've had to do any of this.  Her biggest victory was being able to go to Walt Disney World during the Christmas/New Years holiday period without so much as a hint of a meltdown.

This mother, however, has it all wrong.  Her son told her he wanted to go.  She should have respected his wishes and left when he asked.  When my daughter would start saying "nononono", I never failed to get her out of the situation, even if it meant I had to hoist her up and walk her out.
 
2014-03-21 06:41:46 PM

MythDragon: Maybe you farkers can wiegh in on this.

Went to see a movie (Elysium I think),  and just before the movie starts they bring in a group of older (25 years or so?) of really retarded people. The smile and literally drool all over the place retarded. But they were friendly and they waved as they went by like they were in a retard parade. Well they were all pretty good during the movie, but this one guy they parked next to me in a wheelchair would hold his hands over his ears and make a really loud "ARRRRRRAAAAAAHHHHHRRRRRROOOOOOOH" noise during and part that started to get moderatly loud (of which there were many) and would keep that sound up during the noise and for about 30 seconds after until he calmed down.

His caretaker(?) sat next to him the whole time and didn't do anything about it. And this guy was farking loud. Like hard to hear the damn movie loud. Am I right to get pissed off about that? I mean I paid my money to watch the movie. I want peace while I'm watching, and *I'm* expected to be quiet. Now I'm glad the group takes the retarded people out. I think they should. But maybe to parks, playgrounds, bowling, and ice cream or other places where it's okay to be loud. If you know they are gonna be making a fark-ton of noise, maybe you shouldn't take them to the movies? If a 'normal' person was shouting and causing a disruption, they'd kick *him* out. Are we just supposed to let it slide because they got the short end of the genetic stick? I don't mind if I am grabbing some lunch at the mall and some kid is singing the potato song at the top of his lungs, it's normally noisy there anyway. I don't mind if he sits next to me as long as he's not grabbing things off my plate or throwing boogers at me. But I want to be able to watch the movie undisturbed.


Elysium was terrible, so at least you got an amusing anecdote out of the experience.
 
2014-03-21 06:45:40 PM

doubled99: //People with dementia and Alzheimer's are worse than kids with autism


Good point. Let's keep them out of the theater too.


Well, to be fair, Grandpa thought it was the bank.
He also thought he was wearing pants.
 
2014-03-21 07:12:35 PM

shtychkn: I feel her pain in wanting her son to have as normal a life as possible.  It's a shame this doesn't exist for her:

[katespiritu.com image 850x1062]


At the Maya Cinemas in Bakersfield, California, there are soundproof rooms like this in the back of the theater.  The audio is quieter in there for people who find the regular volume to be too high.  This presents a problem of two competing interests: 1) putting people who can't shut up into the cry room versus 2) people who are sensitive to high volumes going into the cry room because the movie is too loud.  Why not talk to the management to get them to turn down the volume?  You might as well talk to the wall.
 
2014-03-21 07:13:38 PM

SpectroBoy: Unoriginal_Username: My 6 yr old son is autistic. We brought him to see the Lego movie, it was the first time he'd ever been in a theater, we weren't sure how he'd be. I sat in a spot where I could get out quickly without disturbing anyone just in case. We also brought a small toy for him to play with.
He was quieter then the kids who sat behind us.

This lady is an idiot. If her son can't handle sitting still or being quiet, and she doesn't want to rent the whole theater, wait for movies to get released onto dvd and stay home.


Thank you for posting that as someone with some experience on the subject.

I wanted to say what you said, but lack "standing" if you know what I mean.


Shhh. This is the Internet. You can pretend to be anyone you want.

Love,
Chuck Norris
 
2014-03-21 07:26:25 PM

firefly212: serpent_sky: ArcadianRefugee: From the Daily Mail article: Max shrieked 'I want to go home,' during the first preview and said it again once the film started.
From this article: Max became frightened during the previews, as he often does....

Also, if he yelled just twice, there is no way the whole theatre turned on them and applauded. Especially if he yelled once in the previews and once at the beginning of the movie.  I have to imagine it was much more than that, and her attempting to communicate the autism probably added to the ruckus.

2 times at 15 minutes each.


Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn nnnntttttttttttttttt toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmme.

I'm thinking if he somehow stretched "I want to go home" to 15 minutes, it would be subaudible. Otherwise, for the first three minutes alone it would just sound like him screaming a single note.

/which would disturb me more, i think
 
2014-03-21 07:28:05 PM
Go home, tard breeder, and take your broken offspring with you.
 
2014-03-21 07:31:26 PM

LaughingRadish: shtychkn: I feel her pain in wanting her son to have as normal a life as possible.  It's a shame this doesn't exist for her:

[katespiritu.com image 850x1062]

At the Maya Cinemas in Bakersfield, California, there are soundproof rooms like this in the back of the theater.  The audio is quieter in there for people who find the regular volume to be too high.  This presents a problem of two competing interests: 1) putting people who can't shut up into the cry room versus 2) people who are sensitive to high volumes going into the cry room because the movie is too loud.  Why not talk to the management to get them to turn down the volume?  You might as well talk to the wall.


If it's too loud, you're too old. :D
 
2014-03-21 07:34:32 PM
I envy neither of their positions.
 
2014-03-21 07:40:01 PM
It's not autistic kids (of whatever age) who are the problem.

It's their psycho moms.
 
2014-03-21 07:53:43 PM

MythDragon: Maybe you farkers can wiegh in on this.

Went to see a movie (Elysium I think),  and just before the movie starts they bring in a group of older (25 years or so?) of really retarded people. The smile and literally drool all over the place retarded. But they were friendly and they waved as they went by like they were in a retard parade. Well they were all pretty good during the movie, but this one guy they parked next to me in a wheelchair would hold his hands over his ears and make a really loud "ARRRRRRAAAAAAHHHHHRRRRRROOOOOOOH" noise during and part that started to get moderatly loud (of which there were many) and would keep that sound up during the noise and for about 30 seconds after until he calmed down.

His caretaker(?) sat next to him the whole time and didn't do anything about it. And this guy was farking loud. Like hard to hear the damn movie loud. Am I right to get pissed off about that? I mean I paid my money to watch the movie. I want peace while I'm watching, and *I'm* expected to be quiet. Now I'm glad the group takes the retarded people out. I think they should. But maybe to parks, playgrounds, bowling, and ice cream or other places where it's okay to be loud. If you know they are gonna be making a fark-ton of noise, maybe you shouldn't take them to the movies? If a 'normal' person was shouting and causing a disruption, they'd kick *him* out. Are we just supposed to let it slide because they got the short end of the genetic stick? I don't mind if I am grabbing some lunch at the mall and some kid is singing the potato song at the top of his lungs, it's normally noisy there anyway. I don't mind if he sits next to me as long as he's not grabbing things off my plate or throwing boogers at me. But I want to be able to watch the movie undisturbed.


I used to take groups of adults on outings, and rule #1 is, if you don't have the skills to handle the experience without disrupting others, you aren't going on the field trip.

What happened to you was lazy farking handlers. Pure and simple. They parked their clients in an inappropriate place so that they could ignore them for a couple of hours. I see this all the time at the B&N near me. Two lazy assed workers haul their low functioning crew into the café where they take up easily 1/3 of the tables, toss some magazines on the table (these folks don't read) and tell them to shut up for the next hour. It's obvious the disabled folks are getting nothing out of the experience. They don't even buy them a beverage. And the B&N staff won't kick them out because can you imaging the shiatstorm?

You never, ever intentionally put your disabled clients in a position where they will be the target of scorn from the public, which happens when you force them into a situation that they can't handle.

When we wanted to take a group of lower functioning folks to the movies, we found an appropriate movie, a second run theater, or a Mommie Matinee, where behavioral expectations were much lower.
 
2014-03-21 07:55:40 PM

allylloyd: Pincy: Pocket Ninja: "As Christians, we're supposed to love our neighbor as ourselves," she said.

How does she know that everyone in the theater was a Christian? There might have been some atheists in there, and they hate everybody. Throw in some Muslims and Jews, and she should just be happy that she got out of there alive.

Are Christians even allowed to go to the movies?  Jesus never went to a movie.

Jesus was a Jew. Are Jews allowed go to the movies? If Jews can, so can Christians.


Could God make a movie theater so loud that you could even hear it over a 23-year old autistic man?
 
2014-03-21 08:36:38 PM

Gyrfalcon: It's not autistic kids (of whatever age) who are the problem.

It's their psycho moms.


As a psycho mom of an autistic child, I have to agree with you.
 
2014-03-21 08:41:54 PM

MythDragon: LaughingRadish: shtychkn: I feel her pain in wanting her son to have as normal a life as possible.  It's a shame this doesn't exist for her:

[katespiritu.com image 850x1062]

At the Maya Cinemas in Bakersfield, California, there are soundproof rooms like this in the back of the theater.  The audio is quieter in there for people who find the regular volume to be too high.  This presents a problem of two competing interests: 1) putting people who can't shut up into the cry room versus 2) people who are sensitive to high volumes going into the cry room because the movie is too loud.  Why not talk to the management to get them to turn down the volume?  You might as well talk to the wall.

If it's too loud, you're too old. :D


Are you one of those weird people who start off deaf and then get better hearing as you age?
 
2014-03-21 08:45:52 PM
KidneyStone:

In related news, the X begged me to buy her this shirt and i refused because if she wore it in public (which she would) there's simply no doubt a parent would see it.

[i1.cpcache.com image 460x460]


Wow.  Do they really sell that shirt at special needs teacher's conferences?  Because if I ever saw that on one of my kid's teachers or aides, it would be their last professional act.
 
2014-03-21 08:59:33 PM

433: That was a T-H-E-A-T-E-R, for movies, not a T-H-E-A-T-R-E, for stage.  Unless Canada has different rules for that.

seriously, I read the headline, and I was "that just seems mean, the theatre company didn't know he was autistic when they offered him the part"?

 
2014-03-21 09:33:04 PM

JohnCarter: I was travelling and got the business finished early.  There was a theater right by the hotel, rainy day, they were showing a Sci Fi movie I wanted to see, why not.  Almost empty theater, stadium seating, maybe a 300 seat place.  There was 1 other patron way at the top.  I sat in the middle about 1/2 way down, lounged back and was enjoying the previews.  2 folks come in, they look around, wander up, and literally sit right in front of me.  Not a row down, but right in front.  Sort of creepy.  I move back a couple of rows.


I've done the same on business trips, especially in cities that don't have a lot going on downtown.  That happens to me all the time, and I'll usually move like you did.  But when "Life of Pi" came out and the wife adamantly refused to go see it, I went alone on a Monday afternoon about three weeks after it came out.  The theater was empty except for me until about the previews started and an older couple came in and did the same thing - sat directly in front of me in a completely empty theater.  When they said hello, I just blurted out "why would you choose to sit right in front of me in a completely empty theater?" and the husband said "in case other people come - these are the best seats."

At least there was some logic to it.  I was sitting dead center because I thought it was the best seat.  They were just aiming for the best they could get that wasn't mine.  I still moved.
 
2014-03-21 09:46:49 PM

NEPAman: SecretAgentWoman: If your kid, whether from age one week to 99, is causing a disturbance in public, you remove that kid from the situation. Period. Pulling the "oh poor picked on special needs kid (adult)" ain't cutting it here.

Welcome to Fark.


Ok, I'm going to go ahead and say it. I've been here 2 more years than you, and have been a TFarker most of that time. WTF are you going on about?
 
2014-03-21 11:05:39 PM

433: That was a T-H-E-A-T-E-R, for movies, not a T-H-E-A-T-R-E, for stage.  Unless Canada has different rules for that.


You sound autistic.

Normal people don't give a crap.
 
2014-03-21 11:34:37 PM

NEPAman: SecretAgentWoman: If your kid, whether from age one week to 99, is causing a disturbance in public, you remove that kid from the situation. Period. Pulling the "oh poor picked on special needs kid (adult)" ain't cutting it here.

Welcome to Fark.


I don't think you are using that right
 
2014-03-22 12:17:57 AM

idesofmarch: To hell with noise from wrappers and stuff - I've been to plenty of movies where old people were just straight-up chatting.

I used to think old people were more respectful, teenagers less, but the truth is there are inconsiderate assholes in every single age group.


THIS!

I was at one movie with my GF when 2 older women immediately behind started chatting.  I turned and gave them the stink eye; they were quiet for about 5 minutes then began chatting again.  I then politely asked them to be quiet.  They gave me the stink eye, and were quiet for about 5 minutes then began chatting for the 3rd time.

I turned around and said, loudly enough for the others around these 2 old coonts to hear, "Shut the f*ck up or get the hell out of the theater."  My GF was kind of shocked, but it was 3 Strikes time and nothing short of outright public humiliation would get them to stop.

IMHO, I'd like to see theaters install "No Talk" buttons on the seats.  If someone is talking, you'd press the button and it would show on the Manager's screen.  Once several lights appear in a circle around one or more people, the Manager knows exactly whom to kick out.
 
2014-03-22 12:18:56 AM

TrixieDelite: Sybarite: 433: That was a T-H-E-A-T-E-R, for movies, not a T-H-E-A-T-R-E, for stage.  Unless Canada has different rules for that.


American English is the only place where the theater spelling is standard, but there is absolutely no rule differentiating between the two spellings. People like to make stuff up like "theater" is the building but "theatre" is the art or one spelling is for movies and one if for plays, but there's really no basis for any of that.

CSB:

In 8th grade, I was considered a "smack" in my English class. I had spent a few weeks in Europe before school started, and so I must have had the alternate spelling of "theater" in my head when we took our final spelling test of the year. I had scored 100% on every test up to that point; on that last one, I wrote "theatre" and ruined my streak. The teacher called me out in front of the whole class. I think they were all pretty happy that I blew it.

/CSB


I remember getting into arguments with my English teachers (in the USA, naturally) because I insisted on using Commonwealth spellings.
 
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