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2014-03-21 12:41:09 PM
lolwut?
 
2014-03-21 12:43:07 PM
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/03/20/does-the-big-bang-breakthrou g h-offer-proof-of-god/?hpt=hp_t4

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2014-03-21 12:46:05 PM
Scientists find proof the black hole that swallowed the missing malaysia air jet was God's vengence on filthy shellfish eaters.
 
2014-03-21 12:51:01 PM
Every sentence I read makes me facepalm harder than the previous one. I'm going to need medical attention if I keep reading.
 
2014-03-21 12:52:46 PM
Whatever helps you sleep at night, lady. As long as she doesn't go making policy over it, she can feel whatever comfort from the discovery as she wants.
 
2014-03-21 12:53:39 PM
Belief is proof enough so why search for facts?
 
2014-03-21 12:56:07 PM

exick: Every sentence I read makes me facepalm harder than the previous one. I'm going to need medical attention if I keep reading.


Do you want us to have you commited?  You seem to be engaging in self-harm.
 
2014-03-21 12:56:13 PM
And yet submitter still hasn't found his reading comprehension.
 
2014-03-21 12:59:12 PM
If the universe did indeed have a beginning, by the simple logic of cause and effect, there had to be an agent - separate and apart from the effect - that caused it.

Agent is not simple logic. Cause is simple logic. Agent is agency, a anthropomorphized trait. Fark off, fundie, you fail it.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-03-21 01:04:57 PM
To be fair, it's an opinion piece.
 
2014-03-21 01:13:15 PM

vpb: To be fair, it's an opinion piece.


I wish I could get paid to write stupid opinions.

Actually I don't,I'd probably suck at that, but still!
 
2014-03-21 01:13:36 PM
Science would and could never even attempt to prove the existence of god.

But I'm sure this article is worth reading anyways.
 
2014-03-21 01:14:27 PM
Your blog sucks.
 
2014-03-21 01:14:36 PM
Which god?

Oh...that one.
 
2014-03-21 01:14:47 PM

vpb: To be fair, it's an opinion piece.


That's why opinions are like garage band demo tapes...nobody wants to hear yours.
 
2014-03-21 01:15:20 PM
Duh. If you believe in god, it only logically follows that everything in existence was created by him
 
2014-03-21 01:15:52 PM
Ah yes, a little of "first cause" argument sprinkled with god of the gaps. Great work there, Leslie Wickman of Azusa Pacific University.
 
2014-03-21 01:15:59 PM
Well, of course. Here's the aftermath.

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whatshotwhatstrendingnow.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-03-21 01:16:17 PM
The guy who came up with the theory didn't seem bothered by the idea of the existence of God.
 
2014-03-21 01:16:45 PM
www.phdcomics.com
 
2014-03-21 01:16:58 PM
Yay for the constant stream of nut jobs with high school educations clearing up the whole "existence of god" issue.  I bet she also has some valuable insights on the benefits of a flat tax.
 
2014-03-21 01:17:10 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: That's why opinions are like garage band demo tapes...nobody wants to hear yours.


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Dream i had last night
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2014-03-21 01:17:57 PM
I'm sure a civilization (type 5) that can create a universe doesn't need any worship. We're like ants to them.
 
2014-03-21 01:19:20 PM
Do christians grasp the folly of looking for proof of god?
 
2014-03-21 01:20:09 PM
He was smaller than you'd think.
 
2014-03-21 01:20:15 PM
I suppose I'm fine with people using this as an excuse for some hyper-intelligent being (called God), being responsible for the beginning of it all.  Whatever makes you feel better.  But it does not in any manner whatsoever prove any excuse for religion.
 
2014-03-21 01:20:26 PM
FTA: Opinion by  Leslie A. Wickmanspecial to CNN

Yes.  very, very "special"
 
2014-03-21 01:20:32 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Well, of course. Here's the aftermath.

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Yowsah!  Who's that?!
 
2014-03-21 01:21:16 PM
Subby, please don't make me have to defend things I don't want to defend...

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Just, you know, try to be reasonable.
 
2014-03-21 01:21:25 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Do christians grasp the folly of looking for proof of god?


Douglas Adams did.  It made God disappear in a puff of logic.
 
2014-03-21 01:21:37 PM
It's not CNN saying this, it's an opinion piece. There is a difference.

FTA:

If the universe did indeed have a beginning, by the simple logic of cause and effect, there had to be an agent - separate and apart from the effect - that caused it.
That sounds a lot like Genesis 1:1 to me: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth."
So this latest discovery is good news for us believers, as it adds scientific support to the idea that the universe was caused - or created - by something or someone outside it and not dependent on it.


I'm fine with this. I have no problem with people having religious beliefs, it's when they try and impose those upon me that I have an issue. I was saying in another thread yesterday that I see this as a way for people to reconcile their belief in God and their belief in science. There is no problem with saying that some creator started the Big Bang, it's when you try and state that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, or some group should be targeted because the "bible" says so that I have an issue.

Prank Call of Cthulhu: vpb: To be fair, it's an opinion piece.

That's why opinions are like garage band demo tapes...nobody wants to hear yours.


Ironic that you come to fark to state your opinion about opinions...
 
2014-03-21 01:21:39 PM
Does the Big Bang offer proof of God?

No.
 
2014-03-21 01:21:45 PM
Few years ago I went to college, there was a crazy chick spewing how Science cannot explain the big bang theory, let alone half of the universe, so in that case God must exist. I watched two drunk physic major's just drill the hell out of her for a good 20 minutes in which she couldn't even answer a single question on the law of physics.

What made it funnier, she couldn't even explain why the earth rotates around the sun, yet she's entitled to her opinion on why the Big Bang theory is false and God Exists only.
 
2014-03-21 01:22:09 PM

Spartapuss: He was smaller than you'd think.


And incredibly dense.
 
2014-03-21 01:22:46 PM
Photographic evidence.

/checkmate, atheists.
 
2014-03-21 01:22:53 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Well, of course. Here's the aftermath.

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[whatshotwhatstrendingnow.files.wordpress.com image 786x1190]


That second one is interesting... I can't figure out if the 3rd zipper is for sex, or so she can take a leak...
 
2014-03-21 01:23:08 PM
CNN has been psuedo-satire for like 5 years now. You get better journalism out of The Daily Mail
 
2014-03-21 01:23:30 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Do christians grasp the folly of looking for proof of god?


For some reason I get the sense that they used to, but no.

Ironically, babies being born, seeds growing into flowers, the cacophony of the forest, the tapestry of stars and other astronomic bodies as seen from Earth (or close to it) at night, and humanity's capacity for [art|compassion|rationalization|intelligence|speech|faith] are also "proof" of god, so why bother looking for physical evidence (or crowing that you found it) in the first place?
 
2014-03-21 01:24:17 PM
lennavan: Science would and could never even attempt to prove the existence of god.

But I'm sure this article is worth reading anyways.


It's helpful to study the thought processes of such individuals to find a cure.
 
2014-03-21 01:24:21 PM
If the universe did indeed have a beginning, by the simple logic of cause and effect, there had to be an agent - separate and apart from the effect - that caused it

The prime mover argument, despite being thoroughly refuted philosophically really has legs.

OtherLittleGuy: Well, of course. Here's the aftermath.

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[whatshotwhatstrendingnow.files.wordpress.com image 786x1190]


But those are nicer legs.
 
2014-03-21 01:24:41 PM
Oh look, it's a religious person reconciling new scientific knowledge with their religion, not rejecting the science or asserting that Genesis literally happened.

BURN HIM AT THE F**KING STAKE.

HotWingConspiracy: Do christians grasp the folly of looking for proof of god?


Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Yay for the constant stream of nut jobs with high school educations clearing up the whole "existence of god" issue.  I bet she also has some valuable insights on the benefits of a flat tax.


RoxtarRyan: Your blog sucks.


lockers: Belief is proof enough so why search for facts?


exick: Every sentence I read makes me facepalm harder than the previous one. I'm going to need medical attention if I keep reading.

 
2014-03-21 01:24:49 PM

Mikey1969: OtherLittleGuy: Well, of course. Here's the aftermath.

[i2.minus.com image 850x1133]

[whatshotwhatstrendingnow.files.wordpress.com image 786x1190]

That second one is interesting... I can't figure out if the 3rd zipper is for sex, or so she can take a leak...


Sometimes one, sometimes the other... and sometimes both at the same time...
 
2014-03-21 01:25:18 PM

Misconduc: Few years ago I went to college, there was a crazy chick spewing how Science cannot explain the big bang theory, let alone half of the universe, so in that case God must exist. I watched two drunk physic major's just drill the hell out of her for a good 20 minutes in which she couldn't even answer a single question on the law of physics.

What made it funnier, she couldn't even explain why the earth rotates around the sun, yet she's entitled to her opinion on why the Big Bang theory is false and God Exists only.


So....did you close the deal with her?
 
2014-03-21 01:25:45 PM

lockers: Belief is proof enough so why search for facts?


 I don't think the author would agree with that at all:
Leslie Wickman is director of the Center for Research in Science at Azusa Pacific University. Wickman has also been an engineer for Lockheed Martin Missiles & Space, where she worked on NASA's Hubble Space Telescope and International Space Station programs.


She's basically telling fundi Christians that they shouldn't feel threatened by scientific discovery.
 
2014-03-21 01:25:55 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: If the universe did indeed have a beginning, by the simple logic of cause and effect, there had to be an agent - separate and apart from the effect - that caused it.

Agent is not simple logic. Cause is simple logic. Agent is agency, a anthropomorphized trait. Fark off, fundie, you fail it.


Also, simple logic tends not to apply to situations far removed from our everyday experience.  Most modern physics flies in the face of our "simple logic".


However, this new evidence strongly suggests that there was a beginning to our universe.

That's been true of quite a bit of evidence for more than a half century.  This new evidence is direct support for inflation in the early cosmos, which has been the leading contender to deal with other issues in Big Bang cosmology but has had no direct evidence.


lennavan: Science would and could never even attempt to prove the existence of god.


I'm not convinced about that.  Given evidence of a deity that goes beyond, "well, it's extremely complicated and I can't imagine how it happened without an intelligence behind it", I'm sure science would do their best to determine if such a deity exists.  Problem is, no such evidence exists.
 
2014-03-21 01:26:32 PM

Dr Dreidel: HotWingConspiracy: Do christians grasp the folly of looking for proof of god?

For some reason I get the sense that they used to, but no.

Ironically, babies being born, seeds growing into flowers, the cacophony of the forest, the tapestry of stars and other astronomic bodies as seen from Earth (or close to it) at night, and humanity's capacity for [art|compassion|rationalization|intelligence|speech|faith] are also "proof" of god, so why bother looking for physical evidence (or crowing that you found it) in the first place?


I think it's silly but hey, a personal opinion by itself harms no one. It's when they try to strip science from science textbooks and replace it with myth that I get stabby.
 
2014-03-21 01:26:40 PM
www.myfacewhen.net

because everyday ordinary facepalm just didn't express my feeling about that bit of drivel.
 
2014-03-21 01:26:49 PM

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Nabb1:
The guy who came up with the theory didn't seem bothered by the idea of the existence of God.



i just read Chris Hadfield's pretty entertaining book;  he flew several shuttle missions and spent about 6 months on the ISS.  anywyas, to your comment, he says something in the book, about how you see untold majesty in the cosmos and the awe of Earth (i think 18 sunrises in 24 hours due to the ISS' orbit), something like, "those who leave Earth either believing in a deity or rejecting religion in its entirety usually come back to Earth feeling even more strongly in that belief system, whatever it may be."

/he was on Nerdist podcast a few months back, very interesting listen.  book was ok but the podcast, more of his personality came through.  check it out brotherman.
 
2014-03-21 01:27:16 PM
Finding evidence that some initial big bang like event happened, creating what we know as the universe does not facilitate your religious argument.  In fact it specifically precludes many who argue are that god spontaneously created the earth and universe exactly as they are and unchanging.  Try again.  Or don't.

/CNN sucks
//Her blog sucks
 
2014-03-21 01:27:21 PM

Fubini: Oh look, it's a religious person reconciling new scientific knowledge with their religion, not rejecting the science or asserting that Genesis literally happened.

BURN HIM AT THE F**KING STAKE.

HotWingConspiracy: Do christians grasp the folly of looking for proof of god?

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Yay for the constant stream of nut jobs with high school educations clearing up the whole "existence of god" issue.  I bet she also has some valuable insights on the benefits of a flat tax.

RoxtarRyan: Your blog sucks.

lockers: Belief is proof enough so why search for facts?

exick: Every sentence I read makes me facepalm harder than the previous one. I'm going to need medical attention if I keep reading.


So you don't see the folly in looking for proof of god? Also, come off of your cross. Also, it was generally christians burning people at the stake for imagined slights against their god.
 
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