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(Talking Points Memo)   Not content with unconvincing lies about Obamacare to tug at the heartstrings of Real 'Muricans, AFP decides to double down by cranking the bullshiat to 14...and they still get called on it   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 127
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2014-03-21 08:40:50 AM
You know, if it sucks as bad as they claim it does, they wouldn't have to lie.
 
2014-03-21 08:44:37 AM
"People don't like political ads. I don't like them either. But health care isn't about politics," the woman says.

It's like admitting they're duplicitous hypocrites.
 
2014-03-21 09:03:28 AM
Americans For Propaganda

Why do they want Americans to die?
 
2014-03-21 09:05:16 AM
Koch brothers.

www.saunatimes.com
 
2014-03-21 09:07:55 AM
I am so glad we have PACs so a select few can influence the entire country with their massive amounts of money, aren't you?
 
2014-03-21 09:08:48 AM
Meanwhile, we have this asshole, David Vitter over here:
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/david-vitter-god-bless-the-k oc h-brothers
 
2014-03-21 09:13:36 AM

serpent_sky: Meanwhile, we have this asshole, David Vitter over here:
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/david-vitter-god-bless-the-k oc h-brothers


The diaper rash has spread to his brain.
 
2014-03-21 09:16:03 AM

SilentStrider: You know, if it sucks as bad as they claim it does, they wouldn't have to lie.


exactly.

why can't they find one single obamacare "horror story" that's actually true?
 
2014-03-21 09:17:03 AM

FlashHarry: why can't they find one single obamacare "horror story" that's actually true?


because if there is a true "horror story", it's something like "OMG, I HAD TO WAIT 5 MORE MINUTES!!!" or something insanely trivial like that
 
2014-03-21 09:17:50 AM

Diogenes: The diaper rash has spread to his brain.


It must have, or he had a mild stroke when he said that the Koch Brothers are "freedom fighters." Unless he meant that they fight against freedom (for the rest of us, anyway) , which actually does make some sense.
 
2014-03-21 09:29:52 AM
Obama said I could keep my doctor, but now he's in jail for Medicare fraud.

Why did Fartbongo lie to me?
 
2014-03-21 09:35:52 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Obama said I could keep my doctor, but now he's in jail for Medicare fraud.

Why did Fartbongo lie to me?


He said I could keep mine, too, but he was 87 and passed away unexpectedly.  Why did Fartbongo lie to me, too?
 
2014-03-21 09:37:31 AM

Tomahawk513: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Obama said I could keep my doctor, but now he's in jail for Medicare fraud.

Why did Fartbongo lie to me?

He said I could keep mine, too, but he was 87 and passed away unexpectedly.  Why did Fartbongo lie to me, too?


Obama said I could keep my doctor too, so in order to make sure of it, I have her preserved in creosote in a 50 gallon drum in the back yard.
 
2014-03-21 09:37:34 AM
Obama said I could keep my doctor, but he was hit by a bus, and killed.

Why did you lie to me, Obama?
 
2014-03-21 09:37:45 AM
You can throw all the facts out there you want but the people they're targeting  aren't going to be troubled to read them.
 
2014-03-21 09:40:40 AM

SordidEuphemism: Tomahawk513: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Obama said I could keep my doctor, but now he's in jail for Medicare fraud.

Why did Fartbongo lie to me?

He said I could keep mine, too, but he was 87 and passed away unexpectedly.  Why did Fartbongo lie to me, too?

Obama said I could keep my doctor too, so in order to make sure of it, I have her preserved in creosote in a 50 gallon drum in the back yard.


That really is the operative word, isn't it?
 
2014-03-21 09:41:21 AM
People don't like political ads. I don't like them either. I do like money, though, so you can eat shiat and choke on it.
 
2014-03-21 09:42:04 AM
They don't care if they get called on it.

You think people seeing these ads are going to look for rebuttals on liberal blogs?
 
2014-03-21 09:42:19 AM

edmo: You can throw all the facts out there you want but the people they're targeting  aren't going to be troubled to read them.


The goal is to keep the peope they are targeting as small a number as possible.
 
2014-03-21 09:49:04 AM

SordidEuphemism: Tomahawk513: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Obama said I could keep my doctor, but now he's in jail for Medicare fraud.

Why did Fartbongo lie to me?

He said I could keep mine, too, but he was 87 and passed away unexpectedly.  Why did Fartbongo lie to me, too?

Obama said I could keep my doctor too, so in order to make sure of it, I have her preserved in creosote in a 50 gallon drum in the back yard.


Thanks, Obama!
 
2014-03-21 09:49:06 AM
For all their money and influence they've spent, Romney lost.
 
2014-03-21 09:49:25 AM

somedude210: FlashHarry: why can't they find one single obamacare "horror story" that's actually true?

because if there is a true "horror story", it's something like "OMG, I HAD TO WAIT 5 MORE MINUTES!!!" or something insanely trivial like that


Or it was like Sean Hannity's horror story.

-calls the Obamacare phone number-
recording: "Thank you for calling the healthcare.gov phone line.  What state do you live in."
SH: "Hello, my name is Sean.  What's yours?"
recording: "I'm sorry, I didn't understand that.  Could you repeat the name of the state in which you live?"
SH: "Hello, my name is Sean.  What's yours?"  to listeners: "This things sucks - they're operators are so stupid they don't even know their own names!"
 
2014-03-21 09:53:43 AM
Can we please not abbreviate Americans For Prosperity?
On a news media oriented site AFP should be reserved for the French press agency.
 
2014-03-21 09:55:02 AM
Obama said I could keep my Doctor, but then Matt Smith left the show. Why did Fartbongo lie to me??
 
2014-03-21 09:55:26 AM
So, did these ads make it on air? Or were they prevented from it because they were false? Sorry, I don't have TV and am unaware of the relevant broadcast laws
 
2014-03-21 09:58:19 AM
I am totally surprised that conservatives would lie in order to extend a narrative.

By this point, I'd be surprised if they could NOT lie.
 
2014-03-21 09:59:18 AM
Obama said I could keep my doctor, but he lost his medical liscence.

REPEAL!
 
2014-03-21 10:00:50 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-21 10:02:09 AM

Dansker: Can we please not abbreviate Americans For Prosperity?
On a news media oriented site AFP should be reserved for the French press agency.


It could be worse.  Go look at the picture fark uses for links to the Detroit Free Press.
 
2014-03-21 10:02:33 AM

vernonFL: For all their money and influence they've spent, Romney lost.


They supported many candidates and I think all but one lost was the last count
 
2014-03-21 10:05:46 AM

The Why Not Guy: Obama said I could keep my Doctor, but then Matt Smith left the show. Why did Fartbongo lie to me??


In 2016, tell Obama "F*ckity-bye!"
 
2014-03-21 10:05:52 AM

Karac: Or it was like Sean Hannity's horror story.

-calls the Obamacare phone number-
recording: "Thank you for calling the healthcare.gov phone line. What state do you live in."
SH: "Hello, my name is Sean. What's yours?"
recording: "I'm sorry, I didn't understand that. Could you repeat the name of the state in which you live?"
SH: "Hello, my name is Sean. What's yours?" to listeners: "This things sucks - they're operators are so stupid they don't even know their own names!"


Wait, what?  Is that actually exact quotes....?  Did he at least play it up like slapstick?
 
2014-03-21 10:06:39 AM
Here's a real Obamacare horror story.

Basich, 62, bought a plan through the state's Nevada Health Link insurance exchange in the fall. He's been paying monthly premiums since November.
Yet the Las Vegan is stranded in a no-man's-land where no carrier claims him, and his tab is mounting: Basich owes $407,000 for care received in January and February, when his policy was supposed to be in effect. Instead, he's covered only for March and beyond.
Basich said he began trying to enroll on Oct. 1, the day the exchange website went live. Like many consumers, he fought technical flaws during multiple sign-up attempts. In mid-November he finally got through and chose his plan: UnitedHealthcare's MyHPNSilver1.
"It was like reaching the third level of Doom," Basich said of the torturous sign-up process.
Basich paid his first premium on Nov. 21, and within days the exchange withdrew the $160.77 payment from his money-market savings account. Because Basich paid a month before the Dec. 23 deadline, his coverage was to begin Jan. 1.
Weeks ticked by, but Basich received nothing to confirm he had insurance. Nevada Health Link kept telling him he was enrolled, but UnitedHealthcare said he wasn't in their system.
Basich's predicament went critical on Dec. 31, when he had a heart attack. His treatment, which included a triple bypass on Jan. 3, resulted in $407,000 in medical bills in January and February that no insurer is covering.
Basich and his insurance broker, Tamar Burch of Branch Benefits Consultants, said the issue appears to be confusion at the state exchange. Xerox's system says Basich chose a plan from another insurer, Nevada Health CO-OP, even though Basich has paperwork that shows he selected MyHPNSilver1. In short, Xerox can't seem to decide where Basich belongs, Burch said.
So the exchange is trying to compromise, putting Basich with Nevada Health CO-OP for January and February, when he incurred his bills, and with UnitedHealthcare from this month on. But CO-OP officials say Basich is not their member.
 
2014-03-21 10:06:47 AM

Karac: Dansker: Can we please not abbreviate Americans For Prosperity?
On a news media oriented site AFP should be reserved for the French press agency.

It could be worse.  Go look at the picture fark uses for links to the Detroit Free Press.


To be fair, the actual url for the Detroit Free Press IS freep.com. No idea why they chose that.
 
2014-03-21 10:08:20 AM
i13.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-21 10:08:34 AM

SlothB77: "It was like reaching the third level of Doom," Basich said of the torturous sign-up process.


with or without running some cheating emulator with mouselook enabled

i can only assume with if he only got to e1m3
 
2014-03-21 10:10:27 AM

Tomahawk513: He said I could keep mine, too, but he was 87 and passed away unexpectedly. Why did Fartbongo lie to me, too?


Did he die of natural causes or was he death paneled?
 
2014-03-21 10:13:07 AM

Tomahawk513: He said I could keep mine, too, but he was 87 and passed away unexpectedly.


jso2897: Obama said I could keep my doctor, but he was hit by a bus, and killed.


Who's responsible for maintaining the Obama death list? We'll need to make sure it's kept up to date.
 
2014-03-21 10:13:13 AM

SlothB77: "It was like reaching the third level of Doom," Basich said of the torturous sign-up process.



First world problems. He should try the torture process at Abu Graib.
 
2014-03-21 10:13:37 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Karac: Or it was like Sean Hannity's horror story.

-calls the Obamacare phone number-
recording: "Thank you for calling the healthcare.gov phone line. What state do you live in."
SH: "Hello, my name is Sean. What's yours?"
recording: "I'm sorry, I didn't understand that. Could you repeat the name of the state in which you live?"
SH: "Hello, my name is Sean. What's yours?" to listeners: "This things sucks - they're operators are so stupid they don't even know their own names!"

Wait, what?  Is that actually exact quotes....?  Did he at least play it up like slapstick?


The last part to the listeners isn't an exact quote, merely what he was trying to express by his tone.  And I'm not sure on what the recording was saying.

But the part about repeatedly asking an obvious recording what is its name is - that's a direct quote.
 
2014-03-21 10:15:37 AM
So why are they still fighting against it?  What is the conservative end goal?
 
2014-03-21 10:16:35 AM
I dont trust the government, because they are elected. Instead I trust a couple guys from Kansas because they have lots of money.
 
2014-03-21 10:17:20 AM

rev. dave: So why are they still fighting against it?  What is the conservative end goal?


To make Obama a two-term president.
 
2014-03-21 10:18:03 AM

SlothB77: Here's a real Obamacare horror story.

Basich, 62, bought a plan through the state's Nevada Health Link insurance exchange in the fall. He's been paying monthly premiums since November.
Yet the Las Vegan is stranded in a no-man's-land where no carrier claims him, and his tab is mounting: Basich owes $407,000 for care received in January and February, when his policy was supposed to be in effect. Instead, he's covered only for March and beyond.
Basich said he began trying to enroll on Oct. 1, the day the exchange website went live. Like many consumers, he fought technical flaws during multiple sign-up attempts. In mid-November he finally got through and chose his plan: UnitedHealthcare's MyHPNSilver1.
"It was like reaching the third level of Doom," Basich said of the torturous sign-up process.
Basich paid his first premium on Nov. 21, and within days the exchange withdrew the $160.77 payment from his money-market savings account. Because Basich paid a month before the Dec. 23 deadline, his coverage was to begin Jan. 1.
Weeks ticked by, but Basich received nothing to confirm he had insurance. Nevada Health Link kept telling him he was enrolled, but UnitedHealthcare said he wasn't in their system.
Basich's predicament went critical on Dec. 31, when he had a heart attack. His treatment, which included a triple bypass on Jan. 3, resulted in $407,000 in medical bills in January and February that no insurer is covering.
Basich and his insurance broker, Tamar Burch of Branch Benefits Consultants, said the issue appears to be confusion at the state exchange. Xerox's system says Basich chose a plan from another insurer, Nevada Health CO-OP, even though Basich has paperwork that shows he selected MyHPNSilver1. In short, Xerox can't seem to decide where Basich belongs, Burch said.
So the exchange is trying to compromise, putting Basich with Nevada Health CO-OP for January and February, when he incurred his bills, and with UnitedHealthcare from this month on. But CO-OP officials ...


That's not a horror story about Obamacare not working, its a glitch in the system that could be attached to any large company. It definitely sucks and he's going to go through a metric s**t-ton of paperwork to get it fixed, but he's not going to have to pay those bills.
 
2014-03-21 10:18:54 AM

SlothB77: Basich's predicament went critical on Dec. 31, when he had a heart attack. His treatment, which included a triple bypass on Jan. 3, resulted in $407,000 in medical bills in January and February that no insurer is covering.


Yet we keep hearing from the Republican party that this part is fine. Uninsured? Just go the emergency room and get your "free" care. The premiums he would've saved by not signing up would totally cover this sort of expense.
 
2014-03-21 10:19:21 AM
http://www.wpr.org/conservative-group-calls-7-iron-county-board-candid ates-radical-environmentalists
 
2014-03-21 10:19:46 AM
FTFA: Americans For Prosperity is struggling to find a way to attack Obamacare that fits the facts.

Since when does Astroturfers for Plutocracy care about facts?
 
2014-03-21 10:21:45 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Karac: Dansker: Can we please not abbreviate Americans For Prosperity?
On a news media oriented site AFP should be reserved for the French press agency.

It could be worse.  Go look at the picture fark uses for links to the Detroit Free Press.

To be fair, the actual url for the Detroit Free Press IS freep.com. No idea why they chose that.


Because they can't trademark "Free Press"
 
2014-03-21 10:22:38 AM

SlothB77: Here's a real Obamacare horror story.


Not even close. Two different insurers are arguing over which applies. One of them will be responsible. This is a simple change in coverage problem, not at all endemic to "Obamacare." And, incidentally, every single person receiving medical treatment "owes" every cent they're charged by a health care provider until their health insurer actually pays out.
 
2014-03-21 10:24:25 AM

SlothB77: the issue appears to be confusion at the state exchange.


Why can't Obama run Nevada better?
 
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