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(San Bernardino Sun)   Los Angeles public defender is arrested after she kicked police officers, bit a nurse and drunkenly sang Rock Around The Clock, When she calmed down she told the cops, "I'm not worried anymore - give me some cocaine"   (sbsun.com) divider line 51
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2014-03-21 08:19:56 AM
www.bubbleblabber.com
Cocaine!!!
 
2014-03-21 08:46:14 AM
the woman broke out into song, screaming "1, 2, 3, 4, 5 o'clock rock" but somewhat fumbling the lyrics to Bill Haley & His Comets' 1954 hit song "Rock Around the Clock."

Yeah, but everyone does that.
 
2014-03-21 09:21:40 AM
Well I hope she can afford a decent attorney ..... those public defenders really suck.
 
2014-03-21 09:21:48 AM
Guys, there's no sense in fighting with people like this.

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Better living through pharmacology. Good old Special K, or some B52.
 
2014-03-21 09:23:41 AM
when you are drunk cocaine does straighten you out a bit so I can see why she was requesting it...
 
2014-03-21 09:24:25 AM

SpdrJay: Well I hope she can afford a decent attorney ..... those public defenders really suck snort.

 
2014-03-21 09:25:41 AM
SFGate referred to it only as "the Happy Days theme song"

WTFO
 
2014-03-21 09:30:06 AM
Done in one.
 
2014-03-21 09:30:40 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: [www.bubbleblabber.com image 512x288]
Cocaine!!!


Yeah, we're done here.
 
2014-03-21 09:31:49 AM

Sybarite: the woman broke out into song, screaming "1, 2, 3, 4, 5 o'clock rock" but somewhat fumbling the lyrics to Bill Haley & His Comets' 1954 hit song "Rock Around the Clock."

Yeah, but everyone does that.


Well, it sure looks like it's still Shirley's favorite song.  I knew she would fall apart once Laverne and Carmine left her.  Squiggy still loves her though.
 
2014-03-21 09:33:45 AM
On a serious note, people seem to be under a lot of pressure these days. I'm glad I'm old.
 
2014-03-21 09:35:20 AM
If she is determined to be mentally ill even when sober, can her former "clients" who were convicted appeal because of it?

She's got some farked up eyebrows, too.
 
2014-03-21 09:36:36 AM
I wanna party with that chick.
 
2014-03-21 09:37:27 AM

Badafuco: I wanna party with that chick.


No doubt.  She's pro bono!
 
2014-03-21 09:42:46 AM
Those aren't the correct lyrics to "Rock Around the Clock", plus, it looks like the cops have already used the rubber hose on her, from the picture.

/"I'm the Public Defender (hic) and I'm going to defend you real good.  Hey judge, lets do "Rockin' Robin" next!"
 
2014-03-21 09:44:11 AM
She can bite my nurse any time. Just as long as she doesn't smudge me with those eyebrows.
 
2014-03-21 10:03:43 AM
Someone didn't get they meds I see....or that's one hell of a mental breakdown.

Working with many people that do amazingly difficult jobs has showed me, many with switch careers after too much exposure to scummy people, having to do their jobs when it makes them sick to the stomach to deal with some people, having to defend, assist, etc.

I've seen two lawyers, and a few social workers that couldn't handle the people and quit to go and do other stuff.

Many go into something like social services (for children services for example) thinking that they'll go in and "save" children and families, then the reality of the horrors that they see is beyond anything their schooling could prepare them for.

Same thing with lawyers, having to defend nasty low life scum, and hating themselves if they actually win, but it's their "job" and most do their best to get the client off, even if they know that their client is guilty.
 
2014-03-21 10:05:50 AM

Badafuco: I wanna party with that chick.



Better you than me. I know that type. First she's mellow, then she's awesome, then it's like you're babysitting a four-year-old, then she yells at you for trying to cut her off just because she barfed in the potted plant. If you're lucky, she passes out on something that can be cleaned easily.
 
2014-03-21 10:09:31 AM
That is a rough 36.
 
2014-03-21 10:14:19 AM
What does her occupation have to do with the story?
 
2014-03-21 10:15:14 AM
Laurel Lance has moved to LA from Sterling City apparently...
 
2014-03-21 10:15:20 AM

imfallen_angel: Someone didn't get they meds I see....or that's one hell of a mental breakdown.

Working with many people that do amazingly difficult jobs has showed me, many with switch careers after too much exposure to scummy people, having to do their jobs when it makes them sick to the stomach to deal with some people, having to defend, assist, etc.

I've seen two lawyers, and a few social workers that couldn't handle the people and quit to go and do other stuff.

Many go into something like social services (for children services for example) thinking that they'll go in and "save" children and families, then the reality of the horrors that they see is beyond anything their schooling could prepare them for.

Same thing with lawyers, having to defend nasty low life scum, and hating themselves if they actually win, but it's their "job" and most do their best to get the client off, even if they know that their client is guilty.


The one lawyer I knew that did this sort of work hated it not just because some of her clients where scum, but because the cops and the crowns where equally scum and the incestuous nature of the whole process was sicking
 
2014-03-21 10:15:40 AM
That's odd... Public defenders are usually stoners. It's the civil litigators who are coke-fiends.
 
2014-03-21 10:18:38 AM
Well? Did she get her cocaine or not?
 
2014-03-21 10:22:03 AM

imfallen_angel: Someone didn't get they meds I see....or that's one hell of a mental breakdown.

Working with many people that do amazingly difficult jobs has showed me, many with switch careers after too much exposure to scummy people, having to do their jobs when it makes them sick to the stomach to deal with some people, having to defend, assist, etc.

I've seen two lawyers, and a few social workers that couldn't handle the people and quit to go and do other stuff.

Many go into something like social services (for children services for example) thinking that they'll go in and "save" children and families, then the reality of the horrors that they see is beyond anything their schooling could prepare them for.

Same thing with lawyers, having to defend nasty low life scum, and hating themselves if they actually win, but it's their "job" and most do their best to get the client off, even if they know that their client is guilty.


I think you take an overly dim view of defense attorneys, but other than that, you're definitely not wrong.  The legal field has one of the highest incidences of alcoholism and drug abuse, and the highest rate of suicide, in the US.  A great deal of that has to do with the sheer stress of the profession.  Factor in the vastly underpaid, overworked role of a public defender, where the sheer size of the workload physically prevents you from actually providing a decent defense in every case, and the results are likely even worse.  This may be an exceptionally extreme case, but it's not all that uncommon to see something similar.
 
2014-03-21 10:23:50 AM

Last Man on Earth: the highest rate of suicide, in the US.


I thought that was dentists?
 
2014-03-21 10:25:49 AM

Sybarite: the woman broke out into song, screaming "1, 2, 3, 4, 5 o'clock rock" but somewhat fumbling the lyrics to Bill Haley & His Comets' 1954 hit song "Rock Around the Clock."

Yeah, but everyone does that.


There's a guy that's at my work who does it in meetings.

Big Boss:  Smith!  Your report of accounts receivable this month is terrible!  You're....
Smith:  It was a one eyed, one horned, flying purple people eater!
Big Boss:  Are you listening to me, Smith!?  I said.....
Smith: Lollipop!  Lollipop! ooooo lolli lolli lolli!!!
Big Boss:You're on probation!
Smith:  BA BOOM BOOM BOOM!!!

And on it goes.
 
2014-03-21 10:31:18 AM

Theaetetus: That's odd... Public defenders are usually stoners. It's the civil litigators who are coke-fiends.


Yeah, everyone knows PDs can't afford coke.  Something's screwy here.


The Muthaship: Last Man on Earth: the highest rate of suicide, in the US.

I thought that was dentists?


That's not what I've heard, but I might easily be mistaken.  They're certainly up there, though.
 
2014-03-21 10:31:43 AM
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2014-03-21 10:32:40 AM

Last Man on Earth: Factor in the vastly underpaid, overworked role of a public defender, where the sheer size of the workload physically prevents you from actually providing a decent defense in every case, and the results are likely even worse.


Frequently, unless you can afford the $400/hour guys, the public defenders are significantly better than the private attorneys. For one, they tend to have more direct trial experience. For two, they aren't incentivized to do as little work as possible - basically, they get paid whether they work on your case or someone else's case, so they can spend as much time as they have. The private attorney, on the other hand, took your $5000 retainer up front to cover everything up to trial, and therefore, the more time they spend, the less profit they make. So, forget those motions to exclude evidence or expert witness depositions.
 
2014-03-21 10:37:22 AM

Last Man on Earth: imfallen_angel: Someone didn't get they meds I see....or that's one hell of a mental breakdown.

Working with many people that do amazingly difficult jobs has showed me, many with switch careers after too much exposure to scummy people, having to do their jobs when it makes them sick to the stomach to deal with some people, having to defend, assist, etc.

I've seen two lawyers, and a few social workers that couldn't handle the people and quit to go and do other stuff.

Many go into something like social services (for children services for example) thinking that they'll go in and "save" children and families, then the reality of the horrors that they see is beyond anything their schooling could prepare them for.

Same thing with lawyers, having to defend nasty low life scum, and hating themselves if they actually win, but it's their "job" and most do their best to get the client off, even if they know that their client is guilty.

I think you take an overly dim view of defense attorneys, but other than that, you're definitely not wrong.  The legal field has one of the highest incidences of alcoholism and drug abuse, and the highest rate of suicide, in the US.  A great deal of that has to do with the sheer stress of the profession.  Factor in the vastly underpaid, overworked role of a public defender, where the sheer size of the workload physically prevents you from actually providing a decent defense in every case, and the results are likely even worse.  This may be an exceptionally extreme case, but it's not all that uncommon to see something similar.


I read an article the other day, written by a public defender. He just described a typical day in his life.
I'd go nuts, too.
 
2014-03-21 10:37:58 AM
www.sbsun.com

Sharpie poisoning strikes again.
 
2014-03-21 10:38:28 AM

chevydeuce: What does her occupation have to do with the story?


It's fun to point and laugh at lawyers, I guess.
 
2014-03-21 10:40:35 AM

Theaetetus: Last Man on Earth: Factor in the vastly underpaid, overworked role of a public defender, where the sheer size of the workload physically prevents you from actually providing a decent defense in every case, and the results are likely even worse.

Frequently, unless you can afford the $400/hour guys, the public defenders are significantly better than the private attorneys. For one, they tend to have more direct trial experience. For two, they aren't incentivized to do as little work as possible - basically, they get paid whether they work on your case or someone else's case, so they can spend as much time as they have. The private attorney, on the other hand, took your $5000 retainer up front to cover everything up to trial, and therefore, the more time they spend, the less profit they make. So, forget those motions to exclude evidence or expert witness depositions.


True, but states set the hourly rate for public defenders vastly below anywhere else in the legal profession, and a lot of states actually cap the number of hours they'll pay per case (so if a case takes 100 hours of prep, too bad, the state will only pay for up to 25).  As a result, the only way the attorney can keep themselves fed and living indoors is through case volume, and flipping as many cases as possible through plea bargaining and the like.  They won't refuse to take a case to trial or anything, but they definitely have an incentive to get you to take a plea deal, even if they could probably succeed at trial.  This isn't a slight on public defenders by any stretch, they do the best they can given the limitiations placed on them, but we as a society put some truly disturbing handicaps on what's supposed to be a lot of people's last line of defense.
 
2014-03-21 10:43:48 AM

Herb Utsmelz: chevydeuce: What does her occupation have to do with the story?

It's fun to point and laugh at lawyers, I guess.


And why not?
 
2014-03-21 10:56:05 AM

Last Man on Earth: I think you take an overly dim view of defense attorneys, but other than that,


How so?... I'm just saying that many people crack under the pressure of their jobs when it comes to dealing with the nasty side of humanity.

I've seen some lawyers quit their practice and go into being prosecutors because it was easier on them to be the one to try to get people in jail instead of keeping them out.

Defense lawyers, social workers, psychiatrists (psychologist), even doctors, all have to deal with their personal morals fighting against their oaths, when dealing with people that they don't want to deal with.

For example: A doctor having to save a child molester that was shot during the capture, well, they have to block it out and just be a machine to get their job done, but some just can't turn it off easily.
 
2014-03-21 11:07:20 AM
She kicked a group of police?  Does she have gigantic feet, or did they line up to get kicked one at a time?
/Awkward wording Ms Reporter.
 
2014-03-21 11:23:09 AM
Niiiiiiice.
 
2014-03-21 11:24:42 AM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Sybarite: the woman broke out into song, screaming "1, 2, 3, 4, 5 o'clock rock" but somewhat fumbling the lyrics to Bill Haley & His Comets' 1954 hit song "Rock Around the Clock."

Yeah, but everyone does that.

There's a guy that's at my work who does it in meetings.

Big Boss:  Smith!  Your report of accounts receivable this month is terrible!  You're....
Smith:  It was a one eyed, one horned, flying purple people eater!
Big Boss:  Are you listening to me, Smith!?  I said.....
Smith: Lollipop!  Lollipop! ooooo lolli lolli lolli!!!
Big Boss:You're on probation!
Smith:  BA BOOM BOOM BOOM!!!

And on it goes.


Christ.  That's practically my whole office.
 
2014-03-21 11:41:07 AM

imfallen_angel: Last Man on Earth: I think you take an overly dim view of defense attorneys, but other than that,

How so?... I'm just saying that many people crack under the pressure of their jobs when it comes to dealing with the nasty side of humanity.

I've seen some lawyers quit their practice and go into being prosecutors because it was easier on them to be the one to try to get people in jail instead of keeping them out.

Defense lawyers, social workers, psychiatrists (psychologist), even doctors, all have to deal with their personal morals fighting against their oaths, when dealing with people that they don't want to deal with.

For example: A doctor having to save a child molester that was shot during the capture, well, they have to block it out and just be a machine to get their job done, but some just can't turn it off easily.


Okay, sorry, I completely misinterpreted what you were saying.  The first thing out of people's mouths when they find out you're connected to the legal profession tends to be the whole "how can people defend those obviously-guilty scumbags" spiel, and it grates after a while.  I saw a couple of the standard phrasings in your post and assumed you were taking that same view.
 
2014-03-21 11:52:57 AM

Headso: when you are drunk cocaine does straighten you out a bit so I can see why she was requesting it...


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2014-03-21 11:55:41 AM
Got kind of a LiLo boner goin here.
 
2014-03-21 12:07:29 PM

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Cocaine!!!


 Came for the Pam reference, leaving satisfied on Boobies.
 
2014-03-21 12:09:12 PM
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2014-03-21 12:16:59 PM

Hoopy Frood: Badafuco: I wanna party with that chick.


Better you than me. I know that type. First she's mellow, then she's awesome, then it's like you're babysitting a four-year-old, then she yells at you for trying to cut her off just because she barfed in the potted plant. If you're lucky, she passes out on something that can be cleaned easily.


Sounds like my ex. Only difference was she'd get hammered ON the plane, not before and god help us all she didn't go into law (she went into real estate). Still doesn't explain finding fried eggs stuck to the kitchen ceiling some mornings. The only way to win the game with those types is to not play at all. Oh and don't stick your dick in teh crazee, even if it sounded good at the time.

/not so csb
 
2014-03-21 12:18:53 PM

BonoboWannabe: Prank Call of Cthulhu: [www.bubbleblabber.com image 512x288]
Cocaine!!!

 Came for the Pam reference, leaving satisfied on Boobies.


Phrasing!
 
2014-03-21 12:21:17 PM
 G0ddamn fark filter. Boobies aren't until later tonight if my date goes well.
 
2014-03-21 12:26:50 PM

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One of the things you learn from years of dealing with drug people, is that you can turn your back on a person, but never turn your back on a drug. Especially when it's kicking at you, biting nurses and singing Rock Around The Clock. (paraphrasing 'Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas')
 
2014-03-21 01:09:20 PM

Last Man on Earth: Okay, sorry, I completely misinterpreted what you were saying. The first thing out of people's mouths when they find out you're connected to the legal profession tends to be the whole "how can people defend those obviously-guilty scumbags" spiel, and it grates after a while. I saw a couple of the standard phrasings in your post and assumed you were taking that same view.


Funny, I was taking to complete opposite of that.

One of my experiences was during the custody battle with the ex, she kept getting free lawyers as she went on welfare, and out of the three lawyers she add:

The first started nasty as she took the BS my ex said about me... a few meetings later, and she hated having my ex as a client as she hated the lies and crap she was trying to pull.  She removed herself from the case.

The second was a total biatch and was just trying to be one, but the constant "losing" she ended up with in court, as I'd "win" pretty much every "debate" in front of the judge and made her her like the nasty idiot that she was.  She ended up closing up her practice and left town (for whatever reason) so my ex had to get another lawyer.

The third one was stuck... due to rules, this was the "third strike" for my ex, which meant that she could not get anyone else and this lawyer was obligated to finish the file.

The years went by, and this lawyer was miserable, she understood the situation, knew that the ex was just out for blood, etc.  She was very friendly and it was not a fun thing to go to court and have to basically destroy their stories making the lawyer stuck having to face the crap that her client was forcing her to do.

It ended when even the legal service office get sick and tired of this and wanted the file close for good.  This included the cops and the children services involved.  I got full and complete custody and that was it.

The children services worker left her position afterwards, as she was a sweetheart and couldn't deal with the things she's see children go through.

The last lawyer, I believe, removed her name from the "pool" of lawyers that were part of the assistance programs after this.
 
2014-03-21 03:36:02 PM
You'd figure after all that school, lawyers would have some class...
 
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