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(ABC)   Russia 'bewildered' by US sanctions. "We thought you'd rename Beef Stroganov to Freedom Stew and be done with it"   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 209
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2014-03-21 08:21:43 AM  
politique. This man is becoming Stalin redux.
 
2014-03-21 08:23:00 AM  
It's easy to sanction a government run by a handful of business owners and mob bosses.
 
2014-03-21 08:23:52 AM  
I like that word, 'bewildered'. I need to use it more often.
 
2014-03-21 08:25:05 AM  
The latest twist I heard was this: Russia supplied the Ukraine will cheap gas in exchange for the use of a military base in Crimea. But, since Crimea is now Russian, the deal is off - oh yeah, and the Ukraine owes Russia 11 Billion dollars for the cheap gas it's no longer entitled too.

/Extortion. It's the Russian way.
 
2014-03-21 08:25:06 AM  
I think they said they were 'bewildered by some of the names on the list'.    I'm sure they aren't surprised at all that a few sanctions are thrown thier way.
 
2014-03-21 08:25:52 AM  
What is the legal connection between some of these seemingly non-governmental Russians and being sanctioned for Crimea?

Those sanctions seem inappropriate to me.
 
2014-03-21 08:25:55 AM  

WTF Indeed: It's easy to sanction a government run by a handful of business owners and mob bosses.


It is probably one of the few time when you can target the sanctions to punish the people responsible while not hurting the general population.
 
2014-03-21 08:27:29 AM  
I think they're bewildered that we think sanctions will have any influence on Putin.

/so am I
 
2014-03-21 08:28:19 AM  
The sanctions will unify Russia and give Putin prestige among all the countries and people who have issues with the US. Great going US. You just did exactly what Putin was expecting you to do.Of course, it only takes a room temperature IQ to figure out how the US would respond. Tomorrow, Ric Romero will report that the sanctions aren't having the effects that the US hoped for.
 
2014-03-21 08:28:39 AM  

MugzyBrown: What is the legal connection between some of these seemingly non-governmental Russians and being sanctioned for Crimea?

Those sanctions seem inappropriate to me.


Sanctions do generally seem stupid to me, especially when we could crush Gazprom's stock price by rushing LNG exports, but these seem better than the sanctions against Iran which appear to mainly hurt the poor and children.
 
2014-03-21 08:28:46 AM  

MugzyBrown: What is the legal connection between some of these seemingly non-governmental Russians and being sanctioned for Crimea?

Those sanctions seem inappropriate to me.


The people (and entities) who were sanctioned are the ones with enough power to pressure the government.

Unless you'd rather start WWIII, the best place to hit a country like Russia is it's pocketbook.
 
2014-03-21 08:29:13 AM  
Want shiat to become real?

Have Putin fark with Koch money.
 
2014-03-21 08:29:42 AM  

Muta: WTF Indeed: It's easy to sanction a government run by a handful of business owners and mob bosses.

It is probably one of the few time when you can target the sanctions to punish the people responsible while not hurting the general population.


Oh it will hurt the general population. Do you really think guys used to buying yachts the size of WWII aircraft carriers are going to say "Well, I've got less money now that I can't do business in the US and EU, so I'll just take less from myself to ensure the population isn't effected."? Hell now, they are going to the gouge the fark out of the general population.
 
2014-03-21 08:30:18 AM  

MugzyBrown: What is the legal connection between some of these seemingly non-governmental Russians and being sanctioned for Crimea?

Those sanctions seem inappropriate to me.


There's no such thing as a non-governmental Russian billionaire. This is what happens when you institutionalize corruption so that it becomes a framework for your body politic.
 
2014-03-21 08:30:37 AM  

bborchar: MugzyBrown: What is the legal connection between some of these seemingly non-governmental Russians and being sanctioned for Crimea?

Those sanctions seem inappropriate to me.

The people (and entities) who were sanctioned are the ones with enough power to pressure the government.

Unless you'd rather start WWIII, the best place to hit a country like Russia is it's pocketbook.


*its, not it's...farking hate the autocorrect on my phone.
 
2014-03-21 08:30:39 AM  

WTF Indeed: It's easy to sanction a government run by a handful of business owners and mob bosses.


But enough of the Republican Party. This isn't the politics tab and we're talking about Russia here.
 
2014-03-21 08:31:15 AM  
Ok, why is the news covering the missing airplane so much more than the Ukraine? I get hours of 'we still don't know anything about the flight' interrupted with one liners about major developments about Ukraine.
 
2014-03-21 08:32:04 AM  

MugzyBrown: What is the legal connection between some of these seemingly non-governmental Russians and being sanctioned for Crimea?

Those sanctions seem inappropriate to me.


The Russian government is more pliable if you punish the oligarchs rather than deprive the people of food, medicine, business etc...

I wonder what would happen if Russia could seperate the Kochs from their money.
 
2014-03-21 08:32:16 AM  

MugzyBrown: What is the legal connection between some of these seemingly non-governmental Russians and being sanctioned for Crimea?

Those sanctions seem inappropriate to me.


These are perfect sanctions, they're targeted not to hit the Russian people while hurting the people at the top.  All of these guys have gotten rich through corruption and cronyism, now the US and the EU are threatening to take away all the goodies and perks of being rich.  Having a $100 million mansion in London is great until it gets seized.  If these guys start losing far more than they stand to gain from looting Crimea, they'll back down.
 
2014-03-21 08:33:41 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: Want shiat to become real?

Have Putin fark with Koch money.


I'd give Putin a load of my cock money.

/has no cock money
 
2014-03-21 08:34:51 AM  

bborchar: MugzyBrown: What is the legal connection between some of these seemingly non-governmental Russians and being sanctioned for Crimea?

Those sanctions seem inappropriate to me.

The people (and entities) who were sanctioned are the ones with enough power to pressure the government.

Unless you'd rather start WWIII, the best place to hit a country like Russia is it's pocketbook.


What's to stop Russia from kicking out or nationalizing all of the US businesses in Russia right now? Pepsi, Exxon, etc.

They fund the US gov't (legally and probably illegally).
 
2014-03-21 08:35:03 AM  

the_cnidarian: I wonder what would happen if Russia could seperate the Kochs from their money.


cdn.thewire.com

"I'd still have a career?"
 
2014-03-21 08:35:44 AM  
I guess I will cancel my Russian vacation. It was either Siberia or Montana. But I always wanted to see Montana.
 
2014-03-21 08:35:51 AM  
Well, the Frogs and us go way back, and despite our quarrels, we both owe each other a debt of friendship. Meanwhile, Putin, the best we think of your country is Boris and Natasha.

/Lafayette, we are here
 
2014-03-21 08:36:53 AM  
I wonder if they're still comforted by Tupac?

/thats what you get
 
2014-03-21 08:37:08 AM  

MugzyBrown: What's to stop Russia from kicking out or nationalizing all of the US businesses in Russia right now? Pepsi, Exxon, etc.


This ain't the Soviet Union anymore, and Pepsi? Really?
 
2014-03-21 08:37:46 AM  
Will this affect Vodka?

/asking for a friend
 
2014-03-21 08:37:49 AM  
Man, I clicked the link just hoping that someone said, "Freedom Stew" and left disappointed.   I think I'm gonna start calling it that anyway.
 
2014-03-21 08:38:47 AM  
If only there was an effective way to deal with a bully.
 
2014-03-21 08:39:09 AM  
Russian stock market took a tumble on the news for those of you who would say Obama tactics are weak and we want a president who runs around acting tough.
 
2014-03-21 08:43:28 AM  
Putin told everyone he was doing to do this. Just rewatch the Opening and Closing Ceremonies. It's right there.

Now if you will excuse me, I have gold to buy, ammo to stock up on and a radiator to piss in.
 
2014-03-21 08:43:41 AM  

monoski: Russian stock market took a tumble on the news for those of you who would say Obama tactics are weak and we want a president who runs around acting tough.


oooo, that'll learn 'em. They will surely cave now that their portfolios took a percentage point hit! That Obama is a bad ass.

I bet they cave much faster than Iran did over their nuclear program.
 
2014-03-21 08:45:53 AM  
Good concept but poor execution. To really make it work you need something with "Russian" in, like calling Russian dressing "freedom dressing".
Yeah. I'm that freakin' guy.
 
2014-03-21 08:46:28 AM  
These sanctions plus $3 will get you a cup of coffee. Since when did Putin give a rats ass about public opinion or economic hardship? The only language he understands comes from the barrel of a gun.
 
2014-03-21 08:46:34 AM  

WTF Indeed: MugzyBrown: What's to stop Russia from kicking out or nationalizing all of the US businesses in Russia right now? Pepsi, Exxon, etc.

This ain't the Soviet Union anymore, and Pepsi? Really?


I'd be happy if they took Pepsi...
 
2014-03-21 08:48:33 AM  

monoski: Russian stock market took a tumble on the news for those of you who would say Obama tactics are weak and we want a president who runs around acting tough.


I decided a long time ago that the current administration will be best judged by the historians, per usual.

The swirling vortex of teeth gnashing, whining, and complaining--regardless of the course of action--is just too big.
 
2014-03-21 08:50:03 AM  
I can't wait to see them open the new NATO base in Kiev.
 
2014-03-21 08:50:07 AM  

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Good concept but poor execution. To really make it work you need something with "Russian" in, like calling Russian dressing "freedom dressing".
Yeah. I'm that freakin' guy.


i.imgur.com

Could use a White Freedom about now.

/wait, that didn't come out right.....
 
2014-03-21 08:52:30 AM  
And Fark Independents continue to root for the US to fail.

Stay classy
 
2014-03-21 08:52:44 AM  

WTF Indeed: Muta: WTF Indeed: It's easy to sanction a government run by a handful of business owners and mob bosses.

It is probably one of the few time when you can target the sanctions to punish the people responsible while not hurting the general population.

Oh it will hurt the general population. Do you really think guys used to buying yachts the size of WWII aircraft carriers are going to say "Well, I've got less money now that I can't do business in the US and EU, so I'll just take less from myself to ensure the population isn't effected."? Hell now, they are going to the gouge the fark out of the general population.


Yes, but nobody's going to care about that until a Republican is president.

/Clinton imposed sanctions on Saddam Hussein
//nobody screamed about sanctions starving Iraqi babies until Dubya was elected
///isn't it great how sanctions can be used as propaganda weapons against both foreign and domestic "enemies?"
 
2014-03-21 08:54:11 AM  

lelio: These sanctions plus $3 will get you a cup of coffee. Since when did Putin give a rats ass about public opinion or economic hardship? The only language he understands comes from the barrel of a gun.


I hear the oligarchs in Russia have a lot of guns and aren't shy about pointing their barrels.
 
2014-03-21 08:54:53 AM  
I like Freedom dressing on my salad.
 
2014-03-21 08:55:13 AM  

Tricky Chicken: Ok, why is the news covering the missing airplane so much more than the Ukraine? I get hours of 'we still don't know anything about the flight' interrupted with one liners about major developments about Ukraine.


Because the Ukraine issue is a complex geo-political economic issue that has no clear "good guy" and no clear "winner".  The missing plane is an easy issue and fascinates the mouth breathing portion of our population. Where as Ukraine just confuses them, because really who cares what one group of commies does to another group of commies.
 
2014-03-21 08:55:17 AM  

hoodiowithtudio: politique. This man is becoming Stalin redux.


Only if you know nothing about Stalin
 
2014-03-21 08:55:54 AM  

lelio: These sanctions plus $3 will get you a cup of coffee. Since when did Putin give a rats ass about public opinion or economic hardship? The only language he understands comes from the barrel of a gun.


The sanctions are hitting the oligarchs that are supporting the Russian government.  How long would it take the US to capitulate if the government did something that caused other countries to freeze or seize the assets of the Kochs, George Sorros, the Kennedys, and the Bushes?  I'm guessing minutes.
 
2014-03-21 08:56:10 AM  
Damn! My img.fark.nethopes of flying this are over
 
2014-03-21 08:56:28 AM  

Epic Fap Session: And Fark Independents continue to root for the US to fail.

Stay classy


Rock bottom baby.  Gotta hit it first before you can build yourself back up
 
2014-03-21 08:57:27 AM  

Fano: Well, the Frogs and us go way back, and despite our quarrels, we both owe each other a debt of friendship. Meanwhile, Putin, the best we think of your country is Boris and Natasha.

/Lafayette, we are here


No, you got that wrong. The best we think of Russia is Catherine the Great and her penchant to fark horses. Either that or Rasputin the undying and his penchant to fark princes.
 
2014-03-21 08:57:44 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Good concept but poor execution. To really make it work you need something with "Russian" in, like calling Russian dressing "freedom dressing".
Yeah. I'm that freakin' guy.



Could use a White Freedom about now.

/wait, that didn't come out right.....


the term you're looking for is "Caucasian"
 
2014-03-21 08:58:02 AM  
I WISH that were an actual quote.  I might just make it a point to have a white freedom later tonight.
 
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