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(Deadline)   In 2004, the horror reboot The Grudge hit theaters everywhere in the US. And now, ten years later, that film is getting a reboot   (deadline.com) divider line 47
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2014-03-20 08:46:18 PM
The first Grudge movie wasn't a reboot, it was a remake of a Japanese film, and an awful one at that.
 
2014-03-20 09:07:29 PM
Dear Hollywood,

Take the money you'll throw into unwanted shiat like this, and instead let Guillermo del Toro make At The Mountains Of Madness. Or, just maybe, let someone make something new.
 
2014-03-20 09:50:51 PM
That was a decade ago? Damn I'm old. Still though, the story's been told. At least they're not doing The Ring again....oh shiat.
 
2014-03-20 10:32:49 PM
I'm holding out for the Blob to come back to Downingtown, but to get serious this time and just eat the place.
 
2014-03-21 12:08:58 AM

Blues_X: Dear Hollywood,

Take the money you'll throw into unwanted shiat like this, and instead let Guillermo del Toro make At The Mountains Of Madness. Or, just maybe, let someone make something new.


Give him 10X the budget and order the whole damned series of stories and books to be made
 
2014-03-21 12:14:56 AM
Why don't we go back just a little further Hollywood and remake something the kids have probably never seen like The Godfather or Lawrence of Arabia.
 
2014-03-21 12:27:45 AM
If you're going to keep rehashing garbage make it awesome garbage. Howard the Duck 2014.
 
2014-03-21 12:27:52 AM
Raimi's one of my favorite film makers but I can't help but think he's been mailing it in since Drag Me To Hell.
 
2014-03-21 12:38:19 AM

Snapper Carr: Raimi's one of my favorite film makers but I can't help but think he's been mailing it in since Drag Me To Hell.


That was a ridiculously terrible film.
 
2014-03-21 12:38:55 AM
You know what I'd like to see horror creators do more often?

Get away from death as a mechanic.

I get it, I get that death is the most universal primal ultimate fear. It's an easy go-to. But it's too easy. Any hack writer can give a dude a chainsaw and a bunch of screaming teenagers and go choppy choppy. It takes a little more skill to give a creative scare when death and the associated fears are removed from the toolbox. No death, no maiming, no 'immortal but trapped under a rock' cop-out.

I know it can be done. Neil Gaiman's rather good at it.
 
2014-03-21 12:41:06 AM
Im still waiting for Sky Captain 2.
 
2014-03-21 12:50:12 AM

Smackledorfer: Snapper Carr: Raimi's one of my favorite film makers but I can't help but think he's been mailing it in since Drag Me To Hell.

That was a ridiculously terrible film.


That's... a unique opinion. Everyone I know loved it, and it's got 92% on RT. What didn't you like about it?
 
2014-03-21 12:54:27 AM
I actually didn't hate The Grudge. The Ring was the much better J-Horror remake, but there was something really terrifying about a haunting that a) you didn't bring on yourself, and b) you can't escape. The lead character did everything right but it didn't matter at all.

Also that meowing kid was kind of terrifying.
 
2014-03-21 01:08:42 AM

Blues_X: Dear Hollywood,

Take the money you'll throw into unwanted shiat like this, and instead let Guillermo del Toro make At The Mountains Of Madness. Or, just maybe, let someone make something new.


Thisthisthisthisthis! A $150M R-rated movie directed by him will make a decent profit. Plus yhe script was great.

/sorry, only have a hard-copy
 
2014-03-21 01:22:48 AM

farkingismybusiness: If you're going to keep rehashing garbage make it awesome garbage. Howard the Duck 2014.


Buckaroo Banzai
Time Bandits
Krull
Ice Pirates
 
2014-03-21 01:22:59 AM
I went to see The Grudge with my sister when it came out, for her birthday.

One of the most painfully unscary scary movies I have ever seen. This movie telegraphed its jump scares like a Cracker Barrel on 95.

"Crazy meowing kid! Six miles, exit 43!"
 
2014-03-21 01:23:42 AM
I hear the new reboot is set to be rebooted.
 
2014-03-21 01:24:29 AM
If these guys were serious they'd reboot Barefoot Gen or Grave of the Fireflies.
 
2014-03-21 01:26:28 AM

Strongbeerrules: If these guys were serious they'd reboot Barefoot Gen or Grave of the Fireflies.


Wait, what?

Why?
 
2014-03-21 01:28:57 AM

Clutch2013: I went to see The Grudge with my sister when it came out, for her birthday.

One of the most painfully unscary scary movies I have ever seen. This movie telegraphed its jump scares like a Cracker Barrel on 95.

"Crazy meowing kid! Six miles, exit 43!"


That's an awesome description. And spot on too.

Anybody remember Darkness Falls. Holy crap was it dumb, yet it still scared the crap out of me. I was young then though, I'm sure it wouldn't have the same effect on me at this age.
 
2014-03-21 01:34:46 AM
Star Trek was a reboot. Most of these are remakes.
 
2014-03-21 01:41:07 AM

wiredmaverick: Smackledorfer: Snapper Carr: Raimi's one of my favorite film makers but I can't help but think he's been mailing it in since Drag Me To Hell.

That was a ridiculously terrible film.

That's... a unique opinion. Everyone I know loved it, and it's got 92% on RT. What didn't you like about it?


Am I thinking of the wrong movie? That was the one with the ridiculous gypsy curse laid on the banker chick for denying a mortgage extension?

Yea, it was terrible start to finish, unless a good horror/whatever you wanna call  it/thriller? should result in you laughing out loud in the majority of the "scary" scenes.
 
2014-03-21 01:45:48 AM

www.inwap.com
The only reboot I wanna see on-screen.

 
2014-03-21 01:54:43 AM

COMALite J: [www.inwap.com image 672x509]
The only reboot I wanna see on-screen.


How has CGI cartooning actually managed to get worse since 1994?
 
2014-03-21 01:55:33 AM

wiredmaverick: I actually didn't hate The Grudge. The Ring was the much better J-Horror remake, but there was something really terrifying about a haunting that a) you didn't bring on yourself, and b) you can't escape. The lead character did everything right but it didn't matter at all.

Also that meowing kid was kind of terrifying.


Yeah, I liked it better than it deserved, just for those elements. The lead characters couldn't solve all their problems just by leaving the damn house -- once you stepped into their territory, the ghosts were angry at you and ready to take their show on the road to track you down if necessary. That scene with the security camera at the office building, especially  -- not sure I'd want to see that again even knowing what's coming.
 
2014-03-21 02:13:47 AM
You know they've been remaiking movies as long as there have been movies, right?
 
2014-03-21 02:16:05 AM
The poster was better than the film.
I had one on my wall till my house fire.
 
2014-03-21 02:41:54 AM

Blues_X: Dear Hollywood,

Take the money you'll throw into unwanted shiat like this, and instead let Guillermo del Toro make At The Mountains Of Madness. Or, just maybe, let someone make something new.


He had his shot at spending  a lot of money on something new and it sucked(Pacific Rim).
 
2014-03-21 03:56:44 AM
still will never be as awesome as Ju-On.
 
2014-03-21 04:04:33 AM

Smackledorfer: wiredmaverick: Smackledorfer: Snapper Carr: Raimi's one of my favorite film makers but I can't help but think he's been mailing it in since Drag Me To Hell.

That was a ridiculously terrible film.

That's... a unique opinion. Everyone I know loved it, and it's got 92% on RT. What didn't you like about it?

Am I thinking of the wrong movie? That was the one with the ridiculous gypsy curse laid on the banker chick for denying a mortgage extension?

Yea, it was terrible start to finish, unless a good horror/whatever you wanna call  it/thriller? should result in you laughing out loud in the majority of the "scary" scenes.


It was an awesome movie, you just didn't like it.  Which is ok, but there is a difference between the two statements.
 
2014-03-21 04:14:54 AM
I'm holding out hope for the Prometheus reboot....
 
2014-03-21 04:21:11 AM

wiredmaverick: I actually didn't hate The Grudge. The Ring was the much better J-Horror remake, but there was something really terrifying about a haunting that a) you didn't bring on yourself, and b) you can't escape. The lead character did everything right but it didn't matter at all.

Also that meowing kid was kind of terrifying.


It seems to me that the difference between western and asian horror stories is morality; in the west, it's the deviants / sinners get killed (sex before marriage, slightly eccentric, dark skin, and so on), while in asian horror ...like you said; not your fault and there's nothing you can do about it.

IMO, of course.

/have yet to see a remake of an asian horror movie that was better than the original
 
2014-03-21 04:26:37 AM

Gosling: You know what I'd like to see horror creators do more often?

Get away from death as a mechanic.

I get it, I get that death is the most universal primal ultimate fear. It's an easy go-to. But it's too easy. Any hack writer can give a dude a chainsaw and a bunch of screaming teenagers and go choppy choppy. It takes a little more skill to give a creative scare when death and the associated fears are removed from the toolbox. No death, no maiming, no 'immortal but trapped under a rock' cop-out.


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Hollywood does good popcorn movies, but their horror is generally "meh".
 
2014-03-21 04:39:51 AM

wiredmaverick: Smackledorfer: Snapper Carr: Raimi's one of my favorite film makers but I can't help but think he's been mailing it in since Drag Me To Hell.

That was a ridiculously terrible film.

That's... a unique opinion. Everyone I know loved it, and it's got 92% on RT. What didn't you like about it?


Count me in the "Drag Me to Hell sux" crowd. What I didn't like about it: Zero atmosphere. Cliches by the truckloads -- in fact, the entire movie was cliched. Ghosties and ghoulies popping out to say "boo" to the camera in each and every scene -- except maybe the early ones. That's how you turn a horror movie into a carnival ride, BTW. Cardboard characters nobody could care about. Highly predictable "boo" scenes. The whole thing was a by-the-numbers "horror" that appeared to have been written by a particularly bright fifteen-year old. The thing I remember the most about that movie is how painfully stupid and annoying I thought it was.

Of course, some people like their movies that way. Taste is subjective. I prefer characters and story with depth, where the ghost / monster stays in the background, where more attention is given to the lighting, ambient sound, camera angles, and above all STORY than to special effects. See my previous post for some examples. Not everyone likes those movies either.
 
2014-03-21 05:21:41 AM

Gosling: You know what I'd like to see horror creators do more often?

Get away from death as a mechanic.

I get it, I get that death is the most universal primal ultimate fear. It's an easy go-to. But it's too easy. Any hack writer can give a dude a chainsaw and a bunch of screaming teenagers and go choppy choppy. It takes a little more skill to give a creative scare when death and the associated fears are removed from the toolbox. No death, no maiming, no 'immortal but trapped under a rock' cop-out.

I know it can be done. Neil Gaiman's rather good at it.


I've often wondered if it would be possible to write a horror story that takes place in a world where people aren't afraid of death.
 
2014-03-21 06:49:41 AM
I saw the movie as a stoned early teen but holy shiat did I find the American version unintentionally funny.
 
2014-03-21 08:32:15 AM
The Grudge came out, and MrsOLG wanted to go see it. I wasn't into Japanese horror at the time, so we bought separate tickets and I went to see "I *Heart* Huckabees".

Worst cinematic decision I ever made.

/confirmed later when I watched both the US and Japanese versions of "The Grudge"
 
2014-03-21 08:41:07 AM
I remember watching this movie when the gf at the time who loved horror movies. To me The Grudge terrible and somehow she loved it but then she didn't get Annie Hall, so yeah it wasn't met to be. I think I'd rather watch the Grudge Match.

Roger Ebert's review is great, read the last paragraph.
 
2014-03-21 10:41:32 AM

wiredmaverick: I actually didn't hate The Grudge. The Ring was the much better J-Horror remake, but there was something really terrifying about a haunting that a) you didn't bring on yourself, and b) you can't escape. The lead character did everything right but it didn't matter at all.

Also that meowing kid was kind of terrifying.


Actually being a huge Asian horror movie fan, I have all movies for both "series" (The Ring and the Grudge).

I actually really like the Hollywood movies because of many factors.

For The Grudge, they did a great job to translate the story over, they kept it very close to the original, even building on from it.  I also enjoyed the sequels, they push the story further, in both the Asian version, and the American, both end up showing different stories, which simply ties extremely well together.  They were not competing to tell a different version, or change the mythos, they expanded, and simply showed a different story/event, so you could technically take any sequel and have either first movie version as it's background origin.

The Ring, a very different story.  The main story are technically the same in either version (ll version if you count the Korean version too).  But the sequels are a very different story.  The Asian ones just goes one direction, then with the next sequel goes into another mind fark direction that I truly hated (SPOILER ALERT: that the whole thing is now turned into a virus that takes over the victims for the ghosts to get cloned as babies), in all series I've watched, this has to be the worse one.  The America sequels ended up truer to the original idea and are much better.
 
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2014-03-21 10:48:18 AM
Anyone read the end of the article? It says they are also remaking Jacob's Ladder. Why? That movie is just about perfect.
 
2014-03-21 11:01:06 AM

Smackledorfer: Snapper Carr: Raimi's one of my favorite film makers but I can't help but think he's been mailing it in since Drag Me To Hell.

That was a ridiculously terrible film.


It was terribly hilarious!
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2014-03-21 11:31:16 AM

katerbug72: Smackledorfer: Snapper Carr: Raimi's one of my favorite film makers but I can't help but think he's been mailing it in since Drag Me To Hell.

That was a ridiculously terrible film.

It was terribly hilarious!
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It's one of the few movies I have actually stopped watching. After the third or fourth time the hot chick gets vomited on, drooled on, or splashed in the face with viscera, it felt like Raimi's vomit fetish to me, and it wasn't the least bit scary.

Not having a vomit fetish myself, I declined to participate.
 
2014-03-21 11:36:37 AM

Uncle Tractor: wiredmaverick: Smackledorfer: Snapper Carr: Raimi's one of my favorite film makers but I can't help but think he's been mailing it in since Drag Me To Hell.

That was a ridiculously terrible film.

That's... a unique opinion. Everyone I know loved it, and it's got 92% on RT. What didn't you like about it?

Count me in the "Drag Me to Hell sux" crowd. What I didn't like about it: Zero atmosphere. Cliches by the truckloads -- in fact, the entire movie was cliched. Ghosties and ghoulies popping out to say "boo" to the camera in each and every scene -- except maybe the early ones. That's how you turn a horror movie into a carnival ride, BTW. Cardboard characters nobody could care about. Highly predictable "boo" scenes. The whole thing was a by-the-numbers "horror" that appeared to have been written by a particularly bright fifteen-year old. The thing I remember the most about that movie is how painfully stupid and annoying I thought it was.

Of course, some people like their movies that way. Taste is subjective. I prefer characters and story with depth, where the ghost / monster stays in the background, where more attention is given to the lighting, ambient sound, camera angles, and above all STORY than to special effects. See my previous post for some examples. Not everyone likes those movies either.


Well put.
 
2014-03-21 12:20:39 PM

Alfonse Gregory: katerbug72: Smackledorfer: Snapper Carr: Raimi's one of my favorite film makers but I can't help but think he's been mailing it in since Drag Me To Hell.

That was a ridiculously terrible film.

It was terribly hilarious!
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It's one of the few movies I have actually stopped watching. After the third or fourth time the hot chick gets vomited on, drooled on, or splashed in the face with viscera, it felt like Raimi's vomit fetish to me, and it wasn't the least bit scary.

Not having a vomit fetish myself, I declined to participate.


The whole time I was watching it I had my WTF face on. The same face I wore while watching Grown Ups 2.
 
2014-03-21 12:45:13 PM

Uncle Tractor: Gosling: You know what I'd like to see horror creators do more often?

Get away from death as a mechanic.

I get it, I get that death is the most universal primal ultimate fear. It's an easy go-to. But it's too easy. Any hack writer can give a dude a chainsaw and a bunch of screaming teenagers and go choppy choppy. It takes a little more skill to give a creative scare when death and the associated fears are removed from the toolbox. No death, no maiming, no 'immortal but trapped under a rock' cop-out.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 300x430][upload.wikimedia.org image 300x426][upload.wikimedia.org image 263x377][upload.wikimedia.org image 300x429]

Hollywood does good popcorn movies, but their horror is generally "meh".


Tale of two sisters is a good one.  Asia really has the creepy horror and vengeance genres down.
 
2014-03-21 01:47:55 PM
Still a big fan of Ju-On, it was the noise the ghost made that was really creepy (not meowkid)
certainly had some cheese in it but its by no means a bad movie.  The Grudge on the other hand.. it was alright, better effects but the ghost wasnt as creepy, some good scenes, some extra bits that were from the sequels made it into the the american version, I like Sam Raimi, loved Drag Me To Hell, great horror comedy in the vein of Army of Darkness, it was what I expected it to be.
 
2014-03-21 06:22:49 PM

karmachameleon: Smackledorfer: wiredmaverick: Smackledorfer: Snapper Carr: Raimi's one of my favorite film makers but I can't help but think he's been mailing it in since Drag Me To Hell.

That was a ridiculously terrible film.

That's... a unique opinion. Everyone I know loved it, and it's got 92% on RT. What didn't you like about it?

Am I thinking of the wrong movie? That was the one with the ridiculous gypsy curse laid on the banker chick for denying a mortgage extension?

Yea, it was terrible start to finish, unless a good horror/whatever you wanna call  it/thriller? should result in you laughing out loud in the majority of the "scary" scenes.

It was an awesome movie, you just didn't like it.  Which is ok, but there is a difference between the two statements.


Im torn on it.

I enjoyed the hell out of it in theaters, then a few months down the line when I watched it again at home I realized it really wasn't very good. It had its moments but by and large kinda sucked

I call it a wash. I had fun when I paid to see it so ill shrug and say whatever.
 
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