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2014-03-20 05:35:13 PM  
Ironically an openly gay politician was found hiding in the closet.
 
2014-03-20 05:37:58 PM  
Lol I thought this was another Larry Craig situation.

No, she was really hiding in the closet.
 
2014-03-20 05:52:16 PM  
Was she hiding or spying?
 
2014-03-20 06:11:11 PM  
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/oblig
 
2014-03-20 06:12:56 PM  
rosanechawi.files.wordpress.com
approves
 
2014-03-20 06:15:57 PM  

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/oblig


Come out of the closet.

/good thing you did it, because if you didn't I was.
 
2014-03-20 06:21:04 PM  
weird, man.
 
2014-03-20 06:22:21 PM  
Apparently she's done this before, as a form of political protest:

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/mar/19/ex-senator-nicole-lefav ou r-hides-in-idaho-senate/
 
2014-03-20 06:24:22 PM  
so she's openly gay and now openly crazy.  I bet she's amazing in the sack, you know, the act of coitus.
 
2014-03-20 06:37:26 PM  
This broad and her cohorts have been raising a ruckus for a while now.  Hundreds of arrests over the past couple of months, some chaos, etc.  All for naught
 
2014-03-20 06:42:21 PM  

derpy: approves


NEEDS MOAR CHIN
 
2014-03-20 06:53:23 PM  

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/oblig


Thank you!
 
2014-03-20 07:12:50 PM  
I'm still confused by what she was hoping to accomplish.
 
2014-03-20 07:20:53 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: This broad and her cohorts have been raising a ruckus for a while now.  Hundreds of arrests over the past couple of months, some chaos, etc.  All for naught


Yay sexism!
 
2014-03-20 08:07:20 PM  

rynthetyn: I'm still confused by what she was hoping to accomplish.


The suggestion of eavesdropping on conversations in the next room seems most likely.

"There is an unwritten rule among us, Richars; if you attempt any ploy on the far side of ethical, you'd damned well better be good enough at your game not to get caught. You're not good enough." Lord Falco Vorpatril, from Lois McMaster Bujold's novel A Civil Campaign
 
2014-03-20 08:08:00 PM  

abb3w: Lord Count Falco Vorpatril


FTFM.
 
2014-03-20 10:26:18 PM  

Wooly Bully: Apparently she's done this before, as a form of political protest:

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/mar/19/ex-senator-nicole-lefav ou r-hides-in-idaho-senate/


Yes, an extremely annoying, stupid, and counterproductive form of political protest.  She's making occupy wall street look effective here.
 
2014-03-20 10:36:47 PM  
How many links are there waiting to go green?
 
2014-03-20 10:56:57 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Ironically an openly gay politician was found hiding in the closet.


an stupidly, unfortunately.

WTF?!?
 
2014-03-20 10:58:55 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Smeggy Smurf: This broad and her cohorts have been raising a ruckus for a while now.  Hundreds of arrests over the past couple of months, some chaos, etc.  All for naught

Yay sexism!


In all seriousness, please explain? What is the sexism here?
 
2014-03-20 11:04:03 PM  

rynthetyn: I'm still confused by what she was hoping to accomplish.


As I understand, many Senators use this closet as a quiet spot to have telephone conversations and impromptu meetings.
 
2014-03-20 11:40:28 PM  

theknuckler_33: Because People in power are Stupid: Ironically an openly gay politician was found hiding in the closet.

an stupidly, unfortunately.

WTF?!?


I can't, and don't claim to, endorse this woman's position. How ever, I will question and contemplate what the first openly gay person in this states chamber has to deal with knowing Republicans have next to no tolerance for woman coming out or even  "speaking up".

I can only imagine the comments/remarks directed towards her in the chamber let alone the garbage reply's we receive from most "congressmen" on the matter.

She is, literally, the first person to willfully admit her love for another person regardless of political or social disposition in this state. We, as Americans, should support her.
 
2014-03-20 11:41:41 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Wooly Bully: Apparently she's done this before, as a form of political protest:

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/mar/19/ex-senator-nicole-lefav ou r-hides-in-idaho-senate/

Yes, an extremely annoying, stupid, and counterproductive form of political protest.  She's making occupy wall street look effective here.


They've also stood outside the senate chambers with their hands over their mouths.  That'll teach those mean Republicans!
 
2014-03-20 11:46:35 PM  

nyseattitude: theknuckler_33: Because People in power are Stupid: Ironically an openly gay politician was found hiding in the closet.

an stupidly, unfortunately.

WTF?!?

I can't, and don't claim to, endorse this woman's position. How ever, I will question and contemplate what the first openly gay person in this states chamber has to deal with knowing Republicans have next to no tolerance for woman coming out or even  "speaking up".

I can only imagine the comments/remarks directed towards her in the chamber let alone the garbage reply's we receive from most "congressmen" on the matter.

She is, literally, the first person to willfully admit her love for another person regardless of political or social disposition in this state. We, as Americans, should support her.


We should support her positions (not couching in a closet, but rather political viewpoints), but her actions only if they make sense. What she did is pretty farked up. It doesn't matter what she supports, that shiat was farked up and the resistance she faces to her political views is not an excuse.

In other words...

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-21 12:05:36 AM  
...
...bizaro world...

img.fark.net

IT DOES EXIST!

www.democraticunderground.com

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-21 12:08:09 AM  

theknuckler_33: nyseattitude: theknuckler_33: Because People in power are Stupid: Ironically an openly gay politician was found hiding in the closet.

an stupidly, unfortunately.

WTF?!?

I can't, and don't claim to, endorse this woman's position. How ever, I will question and contemplate what the first openly gay person in this states chamber has to deal with knowing Republicans have next to no tolerance for woman coming out or even  "speaking up".

I can only imagine the comments/remarks directed towards her in the chamber let alone the garbage reply's we receive from most "congressmen" on the matter.

She is, literally, the first person to willfully admit her love for another person regardless of political or social disposition in this state. We, as Americans, should support her.

We should support her positions (not couching in a closet, but rather political viewpoints), but her actions only if they make sense. What she did is pretty farked up. It doesn't matter what she supports, that shiat was farked up and the resistance she faces to her political views is not an excuse.

In other words...

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 480x360]


Eight years and not one discussion on the books concerning the topic and "I'm not helping"?
Maybe you should look in a mirror my friend.
 
2014-03-21 12:13:41 AM  
nyseattitude:
Eight years and not one discussion on the books concerning the topic and "I'm not helping"?
Maybe you should look in a mirror my friend.


Man, "not one discussion on the books" is a weird way to say "one of the nation's dominant social policy discussions for almost two solid decades".  Is English your eighth or ninth language or something?
 
2014-03-21 12:17:59 AM  

Jim_Callahan: nyseattitude:
Eight years and not one discussion on the books concerning the topic and "I'm not helping"?
Maybe you should look in a mirror my friend.

Man, "not one discussion on the books" is a weird way to say "one of the nation's dominant social policy discussions for almost two solid decades".  Is English your eighth or ninth language or something?


It's not for a lack of trying to get greenlights.
 
2014-03-21 12:36:48 AM  

Jim_Callahan: nyseattitude:
Eight years and not one discussion on the books concerning the topic and "I'm not helping"?
Maybe you should look in a mirror my friend.

Man, "not one discussion on the books" is a weird way to say "one of the nation's dominant social policy discussions for almost two solid decades".  Is English your eighth or ninth language or something?


No, how ever I have no issue adjusting my educate accordingly.

Had you held your nose slightly lighter then maybe you would have had the ability to see the same.

I assure you a moral assurance isn't regrettable.
 
2014-03-21 12:46:02 AM  

nyseattitude: theknuckler_33: In other words...

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 480x360]

Eight years and not one discussion on the books concerning the topic and "I'm not helping"?
Maybe you should look in a mirror my friend.


You are moving goalposts, my friend. Her actions were stupid, regardless of what happened before.
 
2014-03-21 01:07:55 AM  

theknuckler_33: nyseattitude: theknuckler_33: In other words...

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 480x360]

Eight years and not one discussion on the books concerning the topic and "I'm not helping"?
Maybe you should look in a mirror my friend.

You are moving goalposts, my friend. Her actions were stupid, regardless of what happened before.


I'm moving goalposts for citing fact? What do people need to do to be treated equally? How far do civilized people need to go? It's been over eight years....

Eight years of fighting for something as simple as "equal rights" when every legislature in power refuses to even hear your cause of equal humanity.

Please, enlighten me.
 
2014-03-21 01:55:12 AM  
I haven't hidden in a closet since I was 10.
 
2014-03-21 03:19:14 AM  
I'm trying to make a potato joke but I'm just too sober.
 
2014-03-21 05:30:44 AM  

fusillade762: Was she hiding or spying?


Spyding?
 
2014-03-21 05:50:27 AM  

nyseattitude: theknuckler_33: nyseattitude: theknuckler_33: In other words...

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 480x360]

Eight years and not one discussion on the books concerning the topic and "I'm not helping"?
Maybe you should look in a mirror my friend.

You are moving goalposts, my friend. Her actions were stupid, regardless of what happened before.

I'm moving goalposts for citing fact? What do people need to do to be treated equally? How far do civilized people need to go? It's been over eight years....

Eight years of fighting for something as simple as "equal rights" when every legislature in power refuses to even hear your cause of equal humanity.

Please, enlighten me.


You are assuming that criticism of her actois criticism of her positions. This is not true, and whatever shunning and abuse she may have taken from the GOP doesn't give her a blank check to do whatever she wants.

I assume you would be just as iincensed if a Republican who got caught doing something unethical had people apologizing for his or her behavior because they were doing God's Work to try to stop the evil Kenyan Socialist dictator
 
2014-03-21 06:36:42 AM  

nyseattitude: theknuckler_33: Because People in power are Stupid: Ironically an openly gay politician was found hiding in the closet.

an stupidly, unfortunately.

WTF?!?

I can't, and don't claim to, endorse this woman's position. How ever, I will question and contemplate what the first openly gay person in this states chamber has to deal with knowing Republicans have next to no tolerance for woman coming out or even  "speaking up".

I can only imagine the comments/remarks directed towards her in the chamber let alone the garbage reply's we receive from most "congressmen" on the matter.

She is, literally, the first person to willfully admit her love for another person regardless of political or social disposition in this state. We, as Americans, should support her.


The idiocy of low expectations.  This is the same kind of thinking that keeps people like Cynthia McKinney or Tom Delay in power.  "They like the causes I like, so I should vote for them no matter what farked up shiat they do."
 
2014-03-21 07:05:46 AM  

FLMountainMan: nyseattitude: theknuckler_33: Because People in power are Stupid: Ironically an openly gay politician was found hiding in the closet.

an stupidly, unfortunately.

WTF?!?

I can't, and don't claim to, endorse this woman's position. How ever, I will question and contemplate what the first openly gay person in this states chamber has to deal with knowing Republicans have next to no tolerance for woman coming out or even  "speaking up".

I can only imagine the comments/remarks directed towards her in the chamber let alone the garbage reply's we receive from most "congressmen" on the matter.

She is, literally, the first person to willfully admit her love for another person regardless of political or social disposition in this state. We, as Americans, should support her.

The idiocy of low expectations.  This is the same kind of thinking that keeps people like Cynthia McKinney or Tom Delay in power.  "They like the causes I like, so I should vote for them no matter what farked up shiat they do."


And yet, she's literally a better person than any Republican.
 
2014-03-21 08:04:52 AM  

Alphax: FLMountainMan: nyseattitude: theknuckler_33: Because People in power are Stupid: Ironically an openly gay politician was found hiding in the closet.

an stupidly, unfortunately.

WTF?!?

I can't, and don't claim to, endorse this woman's position. How ever, I will question and contemplate what the first openly gay person in this states chamber has to deal with knowing Republicans have next to no tolerance for woman coming out or even  "speaking up".

I can only imagine the comments/remarks directed towards her in the chamber let alone the garbage reply's we receive from most "congressmen" on the matter.

She is, literally, the first person to willfully admit her love for another person regardless of political or social disposition in this state. We, as Americans, should support her.

The idiocy of low expectations.  This is the same kind of thinking that keeps people like Cynthia McKinney or Tom Delay in power.  "They like the causes I like, so I should vote for them no matter what farked up shiat they do."

And yet, she's literally a better person than any Republican.


Which is exactly what Republican voters say about Democrats.

But *they* are idiots while *you* are a savvy voter, making a strategic choice to ignore a candidate's flaws as long as it helps pass policies that are important....

Right?
 
2014-03-21 08:06:28 AM  

HeadLever: rynthetyn: I'm still confused by what she was hoping to accomplish.

As I understand, many Senators use this closet as a quiet spot to have telephone conversations and impromptu meetings.


Sneakiness is a despicable character flaw, even for a politician.
 
2014-03-21 08:07:17 AM  

stratagos: Alphax: FLMountainMan: nyseattitude: theknuckler_33: Because People in power are Stupid: Ironically an openly gay politician was found hiding in the closet.

an stupidly, unfortunately.

WTF?!?

I can't, and don't claim to, endorse this woman's position. How ever, I will question and contemplate what the first openly gay person in this states chamber has to deal with knowing Republicans have next to no tolerance for woman coming out or even  "speaking up".

I can only imagine the comments/remarks directed towards her in the chamber let alone the garbage reply's we receive from most "congressmen" on the matter.

She is, literally, the first person to willfully admit her love for another person regardless of political or social disposition in this state. We, as Americans, should support her.

The idiocy of low expectations.  This is the same kind of thinking that keeps people like Cynthia McKinney or Tom Delay in power.  "They like the causes I like, so I should vote for them no matter what farked up shiat they do."

And yet, she's literally a better person than any Republican.

Which is exactly what Republican voters say about Democrats.

But *they* are idiots while *you* are a savvy voter, making a strategic choice to ignore a candidate's flaws as long as it helps pass policies that are important....

Right?


She is not seeking to use the power of the state to hurt people.  I can't think of a better way to show the difference between good and evil.
 
2014-03-21 08:27:20 AM  

Alphax: stratagos: Alphax: FLMountainMan: nyseattitude: theknuckler_33: Because People in power are Stupid: Ironically an openly gay politician was found hiding in the closet.

an stupidly, unfortunately.

WTF?!?

I can't, and don't claim to, endorse this woman's position. How ever, I will question and contemplate what the first openly gay person in this states chamber has to deal with knowing Republicans have next to no tolerance for woman coming out or even  "speaking up".

I can only imagine the comments/remarks directed towards her in the chamber let alone the garbage reply's we receive from most "congressmen" on the matter.

She is, literally, the first person to willfully admit her love for another person regardless of political or social disposition in this state. We, as Americans, should support her.

The idiocy of low expectations.  This is the same kind of thinking that keeps people like Cynthia McKinney or Tom Delay in power.  "They like the causes I like, so I should vote for them no matter what farked up shiat they do."

And yet, she's literally a better person than any Republican.

Which is exactly what Republican voters say about Democrats.

But *they* are idiots while *you* are a savvy voter, making a strategic choice to ignore a candidate's flaws as long as it helps pass policies that are important....

Right?

She is not seeking to use the power of the state to hurt people.  I can't think of a better way to show the difference between good and evil.


So, to summarize: the personal failings (or successes) of public figures and politicians are irrelevant; the only litmus test is the policies they endorse.

And that thought doesn't *bother* you? That someone on "your side" - whatever that side happens to be - is immune from criticism, no matter how odious their actions, because it isn't worth the risk of giving the other side a momentary advantage?
 
2014-03-21 08:43:26 AM  

stratagos: So, to summarize: the personal failings (or successes) of public figures and politicians are irrelevant; the only litmus test is the policies they endorse.


It's by far the most important, yes.  What you do determines who you are.
 
2014-03-21 08:46:44 AM  

stratagos: Alphax: stratagos: Alphax: FLMountainMan: nyseattitude: theknuckler_33: Because People in power are Stupid: Ironically an openly gay politician was found hiding in the closet.

an stupidly, unfortunately.

WTF?!?

I can't, and don't claim to, endorse this woman's position. How ever, I will question and contemplate what the first openly gay person in this states chamber has to deal with knowing Republicans have next to no tolerance for woman coming out or even  "speaking up".

I can only imagine the comments/remarks directed towards her in the chamber let alone the garbage reply's we receive from most "congressmen" on the matter.

She is, literally, the first person to willfully admit her love for another person regardless of political or social disposition in this state. We, as Americans, should support her.

The idiocy of low expectations.  This is the same kind of thinking that keeps people like Cynthia McKinney or Tom Delay in power.  "They like the causes I like, so I should vote for them no matter what farked up shiat they do."

And yet, she's literally a better person than any Republican.

Which is exactly what Republican voters say about Democrats.

But *they* are idiots while *you* are a savvy voter, making a strategic choice to ignore a candidate's flaws as long as it helps pass policies that are important....

Right?

She is not seeking to use the power of the state to hurt people.  I can't think of a better way to show the difference between good and evil.

So, to summarize: the personal failings (or successes) of public figures and politicians are irrelevant; the only litmus test is the policies they endorse.

And that thought doesn't *bother* you? That someone on "your side" - whatever that side happens to be - is immune from criticism, no matter how odious their actions, because it isn't worth the risk of giving the other side a momentary advantage?



So, from the article linked above;
 It turned out the individual was former Sen. Nicole LeFavour, D-Boise, who has been arrested a half-dozen times this session in protests at the state Capitol pressing to "add the words," the catchphrase for amending Idaho's Human Rights Act to add the words "sexual orientation" and "gender identity" to the act's anti-discrimination provisions. The change has been proposed every year for the past eight years but has never had a full committee hearing.

It seems like the state of Idaho is backwards and won't catch up with the times and the fact that the gays are people too and should have a legal footing not to be discriminated against and add some language into something saying as much, and this woman who can due to her status as a former senator can go hide in the closet in the senate chambers and...
   Now we're talking about it. Maybe all of Idaho is talking about it. When the internet gets ahold of something like this and a politician, even a backwoods state senator from Pocatello, is forced to defend his bigoted actions on the national stage, sometimes things change. Seems more effective than being quiet and voting and hoping for the best. Good on her.
 
2014-03-21 08:57:10 AM  

nyseattitude: theknuckler_33: nyseattitude: theknuckler_33: In other words...

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 480x360]

Eight years and not one discussion on the books concerning the topic and "I'm not helping"?
Maybe you should look in a mirror my friend.

You are moving goalposts, my friend. Her actions were stupid, regardless of what happened before.

I'm moving goalposts for citing fact? What do people need to do to be treated equally? How far do civilized people need to go? It's been over eight years....

Eight years of fighting for something as simple as "equal rights" when every legislature in power refuses to even hear your cause of equal humanity.

Please, enlighten me.


Fighting for equal rights does not justify every action you take. Hiding in a closet to eavesdrop on people is farking creepy. I'm on board with her cause 100%. Her actions here are wrong.
 
2014-03-21 09:05:13 AM  

FLMountainMan: nyseattitude: theknuckler_33: Because People in power are Stupid: Ironically an openly gay politician was found hiding in the closet.

an stupidly, unfortunately.

WTF?!?

I can't, and don't claim to, endorse this woman's position. How ever, I will question and contemplate what the first openly gay person in this states chamber has to deal with knowing Republicans have next to no tolerance for woman coming out or even  "speaking up".

I can only imagine the comments/remarks directed towards her in the chamber let alone the garbage reply's we receive from most "congressmen" on the matter.

She is, literally, the first person to willfully admit her love for another person regardless of political or social disposition in this state. We, as Americans, should support her.

The idiocy of low expectations.  This is the same kind of thinking that keeps people like Cynthia McKinney or Tom Delay in power.  "They like the causes I like, so I should vote for them no matter what farked up shiat they do."


While I agree what she did was really stupid, it is also idiocy to suggest that something like this warrants voting for the other side. Why would I vote for the person against marriage equality because the person in favor of it did something stupid? I can acknowledge that my candidate acted stupidly while still supporting them for representing my position on the issues.
 
2014-03-21 09:15:16 AM  

theknuckler_33: FLMountainMan: nyseattitude: theknuckler_33: Because People in power are Stupid: Ironically an openly gay politician was found hiding in the closet.

an stupidly, unfortunately.

WTF?!?

I can't, and don't claim to, endorse this woman's position. How ever, I will question and contemplate what the first openly gay person in this states chamber has to deal with knowing Republicans have next to no tolerance for woman coming out or even  "speaking up".

I can only imagine the comments/remarks directed towards her in the chamber let alone the garbage reply's we receive from most "congressmen" on the matter.

She is, literally, the first person to willfully admit her love for another person regardless of political or social disposition in this state. We, as Americans, should support her.

The idiocy of low expectations.  This is the same kind of thinking that keeps people like Cynthia McKinney or Tom Delay in power.  "They like the causes I like, so I should vote for them no matter what farked up shiat they do."

While I agree what she did was really stupid, it is also idiocy to suggest that something like this warrants voting for the other side. Why would I vote for the person against marriage equality because the person in favor of it did something stupid? I can acknowledge that my candidate acted stupidly while still supporting them for representing my position on the issues.


Oh, the joys of a two party system.  So, to take your hypothetical further, and I'm not trying to create a false equivalency with what this idiot did, what if the person who supported marriage equality also got caught embezzling from a charity?  Or rape, to make an extreme example?  Would you still vote for this person because the "other side"'s view on this one issue is so odious?
 
2014-03-21 09:34:09 AM  

Isitoveryet: so she's openly gay and now openly crazy.  I bet she's amazing in the sack, you know, the act of coitus.


What does one say to a lesbian that corresponds to "don't stick your dick in crazy"?
 
2014-03-21 10:06:28 AM  
She is the ring leader of the Add The Word nutters. We all want Idaho to add lgbt protection to the human rights amendment (the four words). But these guys are theatrical creeps so eager for attention they aren't even fun to photograph any more when I'm down town. They creep around in silence with thier hands over thier mouth while I scratch my head wondering where the people, chants and signs are.. ya know a protest! They'd rather suck up PD resources and make the paper than rally people to thier cause, hell one of the first things one of my Boise gaybros said was, "They're so creepy!" when I asked his thoughts.

Seriously fark these loons.


But if anyone wants to actually rally/protest for equality then I'll be there.
 
2014-03-21 01:12:37 PM  

theknuckler_33: Fighting for equal rights does not justify every action you take. Hiding in a closet to eavesdrop on people is farking creepy. I'm on board with her cause 100%. Her actions here are wrong.


We have absolutely no proof she was eavesdropping.  Only one person in the article mentioned that the eavesdropping was a possibility, and even they refused to "speculate" on her actual intentions, although it's fairly clear he did so to get people to side against her.

I don't think you get to condemn her actions when you don't even know what she was doing to begin with.
 
2014-03-21 02:32:10 PM  

austerity101: I don't think you get to condemn her actions when you don't even know what she was doing to begin with.


What other plausible explanation is there for sneaking into a room and hiding where many folks take phone calls and hold impromptu meetings?  Or do you think that she was instead engaged in a game of 'hide and seek' with Larry Craig?
 
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