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2014-03-20 01:36:13 PM
Or, maybe switch grandma to Microsoft Security essentials?  Or any of the other FREE A/V solutions that don't try to up-sell you and whine like a beggar...
 
2014-03-20 01:37:43 PM
We need to compromise these XP machines and use them for the good of humankind. Get them all working on protein-folding or something, before the russian mob gets their hands on 'em.
 
2014-03-20 01:41:14 PM

A10Mechanic: Or, maybe switch grandma to Microsoft Security essentials?  Or any of the other FREE A/V solutions that don't try to up-sell you and whine like a beggar...


I'm also going to recommend that you get her on a modern OS as well.  Not one that's 3 generations out of date.
 
2014-03-20 01:45:54 PM

flak attack: A10Mechanic: Or, maybe switch grandma to Microsoft Security essentials?  Or any of the other FREE A/V solutions that don't try to up-sell you and whine like a beggar...

I'm also going to recommend that you get her on a modern OS as well.  Not one that's 3 generations out of date.


Baby steps.  Baby steps.  Grandma doesn't like change.  Even changing the icons could kill her, let alone moving her to 7 or Linux.
 
2014-03-20 01:48:27 PM
Yeah, Avast is the one that was starting Google Chrome in Windows 7 without any permissions.

Won't ever be buying any Avast products.

Funny. It stopped doing that after a couple of weeks. I wonder why.
 
2014-03-20 01:50:26 PM
I'm using IE6 on XP without any service packs or AV just the way I like it.
 
2014-03-20 01:51:38 PM
13 years wasn't enough to finally secure your OS?
 
2014-03-20 01:51:48 PM

bsharitt: I'm using IE6 on XP without any service packs or AV just the way I like it.


My pee burns just reading that.
 
2014-03-20 02:14:02 PM

bsharitt: I'm using IE6 on XP without any service packs or AV just the way I like it.


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2014-03-20 02:17:47 PM

A10Mechanic: flak attack: A10Mechanic: Or, maybe switch grandma to Microsoft Security essentials?  Or any of the other FREE A/V solutions that don't try to up-sell you and whine like a beggar...

I'm also going to recommend that you get her on a modern OS as well.  Not one that's 3 generations out of date.

Baby steps.  Baby steps.  Grandma doesn't like change.  Even changing the icons could kill her, let alone moving her to 7 or Linux.


This is actually a big thing.  A lot of the time people born and raised in a non-digital world really don't get the plastic nature of a UI.  They memorize steps and buttons, like they were actual buttons. "Click this to get the Internet."  "Click this to type a letter."  My parents are not stupid, not by a long shot, but I've set up their Macs and I have to make sure the dock has the same icons all the time.  If an icon has changed, I have to point it out..  'this is the NEW internet button."

Now once they know what to click where, they are usually pretty well set.  Thank God.
 
2014-03-20 02:19:01 PM
I have 3 machines at home that are still running XP. I use 7 on everything at work and just can't justify the time to upgrade my home machines, which run perfectly fine. If you didn't have to do a fresh install, I might consider it, but they just work fine like they are.
 
2014-03-20 02:26:04 PM
Move to Windows 8, get Start8 from stardock.com, install Kaspersky Internet Security (not Pure, not their AV).  You will have a very pleasant computing experience.
 
2014-03-20 02:29:48 PM
Lots of government computers are running XP. Including ones used by the military.
 
2014-03-20 02:39:33 PM

A10Mechanic: Or, maybe switch grandma to Microsoft Security essentials?  Or any of the other FREE A/V solutions that don't try to up-sell you and whine like a beggar...


Yeah, I think it's time I ditch Avast. It's been getting pretty annoying with the multiple popups about their crappy every time I start my computer.
 
2014-03-20 02:54:51 PM
Xp is still a viable operating system. Windows 8 is for pussies.
 
2014-03-20 03:07:40 PM

flak attack: A10Mechanic: Or, maybe switch grandma to Microsoft Security essentials?  Or any of the other FREE A/V solutions that don't try to up-sell you and whine like a beggar...

I'm also going to recommend that you get her on a modern OS as well.  Not one that's 3 generations out of date.


buying a decent PC rig these days with no GPU, software or hardware like a screen or keyboard costs, around here, about N$12 000.00. Since the Exchange rate is 10.93 to the US dollar, that's about $1097. Now, N$12K is a LOT of cash around here. Most normal working people are lucky to have a few thousand left over every month after taxes, bill payments and maybe groceries and prefer to keep that for emergencies rather than use it for what most around here see as a non-essential upgrade, which is why they stick with the old, but still working PC and the old but still entirely reliable XP.
 
2014-03-20 03:15:55 PM

Smoking GNU: what most around here see as a non-essential upgrade, which is why they stick with the old, but still working PC and the old but still entirely reliable XP.


Yes, but Windows 7 can be pirated and it often runs faster on the same hardware as XP as long as there are Win 7 drivers for the hardware.

So the answer to MS stopping support for XP (which was highly pirated) is to pirate Windows 7.
 
2014-03-20 03:15:57 PM

Smoking GNU: flak attack: A10Mechanic: Or, maybe switch grandma to Microsoft Security essentials?  Or any of the other FREE A/V solutions that don't try to up-sell you and whine like a beggar...

I'm also going to recommend that you get her on a modern OS as well.  Not one that's 3 generations out of date.

buying a decent PC rig these days with no GPU, software or hardware like a screen or keyboard costs, around here, about N$12 000.00. Since the Exchange rate is 10.93 to the US dollar, that's about $1097. Now, N$12K is a LOT of cash around here. Most normal working people are lucky to have a few thousand left over every month after taxes, bill payments and maybe groceries and prefer to keep that for emergencies rather than use it for what most around here see as a non-essential upgrade, which is why they stick with the old, but still working PC and the old but still entirely reliable XP.


Also, i'd like to add that i'd just LOVE to upgrade to win 7, but the above applies to me too, only more so since i only recently got a job and i'm still on probation, so low salary thus far, but it'll take 1/2 a year for me to save up to buy that kind of hardware.

And no, i'm not buying anything on credit (besides maybe a car or a house or something in that range).
 
2014-03-20 03:20:19 PM

Jeng: Smoking GNU: what most around here see as a non-essential upgrade, which is why they stick with the old, but still working PC and the old but still entirely reliable XP.

Yes, but Windows 7 can be pirated and it often runs faster on the same hardware as XP as long as there are Win 7 drivers for the hardware.

So the answer to MS stopping support for XP (which was highly pirated) is to pirate Windows 7.


Most people around here are mostly oblivious to that factor. They have a PC, they have an OS that works on it (even if they don't know what an OS is) and that's enough for them. They hardly even notice tech-sector news and don't really get the concept of Microsoft stopping support for XT anyway.
 
2014-03-20 03:20:30 PM

Smoking GNU: flak attack: A10Mechanic: Or, maybe switch grandma to Microsoft Security essentials?  Or any of the other FREE A/V solutions that don't try to up-sell you and whine like a beggar...

I'm also going to recommend that you get her on a modern OS as well.  Not one that's 3 generations out of date.

buying a decent PC rig these days with no GPU, software or hardware like a screen or keyboard costs, around here, about N$12 000.00. Since the Exchange rate is 10.93 to the US dollar, that's about $1097. Now, N$12K is a LOT of cash around here. Most normal working people are lucky to have a few thousand left over every month after taxes, bill payments and maybe groceries and prefer to keep that for emergencies rather than use it for what most around here see as a non-essential upgrade, which is why they stick with the old, but still working PC and the old but still entirely reliable XP.


Decent rig? No GPU/Monitor/Keyboard and you're saying it's 1k US? Really? A grand will get you all the parts you need to build your own.
 
2014-03-20 03:23:22 PM

Unoriginal_Username: Smoking GNU: flak attack: A10Mechanic: Or, maybe switch grandma to Microsoft Security essentials?  Or any of the other FREE A/V solutions that don't try to up-sell you and whine like a beggar...

I'm also going to recommend that you get her on a modern OS as well.  Not one that's 3 generations out of date.

buying a decent PC rig these days with no GPU, software or hardware like a screen or keyboard costs, around here, about N$12 000.00. Since the Exchange rate is 10.93 to the US dollar, that's about $1097. Now, N$12K is a LOT of cash around here. Most normal working people are lucky to have a few thousand left over every month after taxes, bill payments and maybe groceries and prefer to keep that for emergencies rather than use it for what most around here see as a non-essential upgrade, which is why they stick with the old, but still working PC and the old but still entirely reliable XP.

Decent rig? No GPU/Monitor/Keyboard and you're saying it's 1k US? Really? A grand will get you all the parts you need to build your own.


I'm speaking in terms of buying all the stuff yourself and putting it together. PCs are still considered a luxury item around here.
 
2014-03-20 03:30:44 PM
As a result, the extent of the public support cutoff is huge, even effecting security companies...

media3.giphy.com
 
2014-03-20 03:40:59 PM
I run Windows 8 at home with Avast.  As long as you turn off the sounds it seems to be ok.

Kubuntu is a nice ubuntu release.

The screenshots of LookXP look interesting, but I've never used it.
 
2014-03-20 03:52:06 PM

duffblue: Xp is still a viable operating system. Windows 8 is for pussies.


Enjoy choosing between using more than 3 GB of RAM or the horror show that was Win XP 64-bit.
 
2014-03-20 03:54:47 PM

Jeng: Smoking GNU: what most around here see as a non-essential upgrade, which is why they stick with the old, but still working PC and the old but still entirely reliable XP.

Yes, but Windows 7 can be pirated and it often runs faster on the same hardware as XP as long as there are Win 7 drivers for the hardware.

So the answer to MS stopping support for XP (which was highly pirated) is to pirate Windows 7.


I'd love to upgrade to Win7, as I'm using XP now, but I'm poor as dirt. Doesn't Win7 do a system hardware scan and phone home with the results so it won't run on a different hardware platform?
 
2014-03-20 03:57:39 PM
Last time I upgraded my operating system I had to upgrade much of the software that I had installed. I don't think I can even get upgrades for some of it. It's what I do. It's what I use it for.

The only problem with XP has been the constant updates. It is about to become the perfect operating system...


knock on wood.
 
2014-03-20 04:08:05 PM

buckler: Jeng: Smoking GNU: what most around here see as a non-essential upgrade, which is why they stick with the old, but still working PC and the old but still entirely reliable XP.

Yes, but Windows 7 can be pirated and it often runs faster on the same hardware as XP as long as there are Win 7 drivers for the hardware.

So the answer to MS stopping support for XP (which was highly pirated) is to pirate Windows 7.

I'd love to upgrade to Win7, as I'm using XP now, but I'm poor as dirt. Doesn't Win7 do a system hardware scan and phone home with the results so it won't run on a different hardware platform?


Nope, I bought an OEM version a while back and I have a retail version. I accidentally installed with the OEM serial key on a new build instead of the retail key and nothing happened.

/Did switch out to the correct key after I found out.
 
2014-03-20 04:13:54 PM

duffblue: Xp is still a viable operating system. Windows 8 is for pussies.


Funny how W8 is a solid OS, and is met by the dummy-spitting of true pussydom.

W8 is currently separating the men from the pussies alright. Anyone complaining about the layout, start button, or Metro needs to hand in their Mancard, and go on a sammich-making course.
 
2014-03-20 04:16:48 PM

Smoking GNU: Unoriginal_Username: Smoking GNU: flak attack: A10Mechanic: Or, maybe switch grandma to Microsoft Security essentials?  Or any of the other FREE A/V solutions that don't try to up-sell you and whine like a beggar...

I'm also going to recommend that you get her on a modern OS as well.  Not one that's 3 generations out of date.

buying a decent PC rig these days with no GPU, software or hardware like a screen or keyboard costs, around here, about N$12 000.00. Since the Exchange rate is 10.93 to the US dollar, that's about $1097. Now, N$12K is a LOT of cash around here. Most normal working people are lucky to have a few thousand left over every month after taxes, bill payments and maybe groceries and prefer to keep that for emergencies rather than use it for what most around here see as a non-essential upgrade, which is why they stick with the old, but still working PC and the old but still entirely reliable XP.

Decent rig? No GPU/Monitor/Keyboard and you're saying it's 1k US? Really? A grand will get you all the parts you need to build your own.

I'm speaking in terms of buying all the stuff yourself and putting it together. PCs are still considered a luxury item around here.


Damn. I built a machine, nothing too special but it allow me to play most games, with a monitor and win 7 for $800. This was about 4 years ago.
I plan on upgrading and will replace the cpu/motherboard, ram, and GPU. It will cost me around $900 but I'm going high end this time.

Are manufactured PCs, Dell, HP etc around the same price?

DerAppie: buckler: Jeng: Smoking GNU: what most around here see as a non-essential upgrade, which is why they stick with the old, but still working PC and the old but still entirely reliable XP.

Yes, but Windows 7 can be pirated and it often runs faster on the same hardware as XP as long as there are Win 7 drivers for the hardware.

So the answer to MS stopping support for XP (which was highly pirated) is to pirate Windows 7.

I'd love to upgrade to Win7, as I'm using XP now, but I'm poor as dirt. Doesn't Win7 do a system hardware scan and phone home with the results so it won't run on a different hardware platform?

Nope, I bought an OEM version a while back and I have a retail version. I accidentally installed with the OEM serial key on a new build instead of the retail key and nothing happened.

/Did switch out to the correct key after I found out.


You can get a copy of Win 7 for $99 at newegg and tigerdirect. Back up your data, do a clean install and you're good to go.
 
2014-03-20 04:17:15 PM

buckler: Jeng: Smoking GNU: what most around here see as a non-essential upgrade, which is why they stick with the old, but still working PC and the old but still entirely reliable XP.

Yes, but Windows 7 can be pirated and it often runs faster on the same hardware as XP as long as there are Win 7 drivers for the hardware.

So the answer to MS stopping support for XP (which was highly pirated) is to pirate Windows 7.

I'd love to upgrade to Win7, as I'm using XP now, but I'm poor as dirt. Doesn't Win7 do a system hardware scan and phone home with the results so it won't run on a different hardware platform?


No idea about the second part, but i'm exactly in your situation on the first part.
 
2014-03-20 04:19:04 PM

Unoriginal_Username: Smoking GNU: Unoriginal_Username: Smoking GNU: flak attack: A10Mechanic: Or, maybe switch grandma to Microsoft Security essentials?  Or any of the other FREE A/V solutions that don't try to up-sell you and whine like a beggar...

I'm also going to recommend that you get her on a modern OS as well.  Not one that's 3 generations out of date.

buying a decent PC rig these days with no GPU, software or hardware like a screen or keyboard costs, around here, about N$12 000.00. Since the Exchange rate is 10.93 to the US dollar, that's about $1097. Now, N$12K is a LOT of cash around here. Most normal working people are lucky to have a few thousand left over every month after taxes, bill payments and maybe groceries and prefer to keep that for emergencies rather than use it for what most around here see as a non-essential upgrade, which is why they stick with the old, but still working PC and the old but still entirely reliable XP.

Decent rig? No GPU/Monitor/Keyboard and you're saying it's 1k US? Really? A grand will get you all the parts you need to build your own.

I'm speaking in terms of buying all the stuff yourself and putting it together. PCs are still considered a luxury item around here.

Damn. I built a machine, nothing too special but it allow me to play most games, with a monitor and win 7 for $800. This was about 4 years ago.
I plan on upgrading and will replace the cpu/motherboard, ram, and GPU. It will cost me around $900 but I'm going high end this time.

Are manufactured PCs, Dell, HP etc around the same price?

DerAppie: buckler: Jeng: Smoking GNU: what most around here see as a non-essential upgrade, which is why they stick with the old, but still working PC and the old but still entirely reliable XP.

Yes, but Windows 7 can be pirated and it often runs faster on the same hardware as XP as long as there are Win 7 drivers for the hardware.

So the answer to MS stopping support for XP (which was highly pirated) is to pirate Windows 7.

I'd love to upgrade t ...


I have yet to see a Newegg in this corner of Africa. Best i can do around here is  http://nanodog.net/
 
2014-03-20 04:24:11 PM
A10Mechanic, does your grandma double-click things on the internet because she has to on the desktop or did you change that to be one-click too?

When I see people with that browsing habit, it makes me hand to slap my forehead.  It's bad enough their clicking on a bad link and opening 'hidden' windows once, but to do it twice, every time...
 
2014-03-20 04:43:48 PM

Unoriginal_Username: Smoking GNU: Unoriginal_Username: Smoking GNU: flak attack: A10Mechanic: Or, maybe switch grandma to Microsoft Security essentials?  Or any of the other FREE A/V solutions that don't try to up-sell you and whine like a beggar...

I'm also going to recommend that you get her on a modern OS as well.  Not one that's 3 generations out of date.

buying a decent PC rig these days with no GPU, software or hardware like a screen or keyboard costs, around here, about N$12 000.00. Since the Exchange rate is 10.93 to the US dollar, that's about $1097. Now, N$12K is a LOT of cash around here. Most normal working people are lucky to have a few thousand left over every month after taxes, bill payments and maybe groceries and prefer to keep that for emergencies rather than use it for what most around here see as a non-essential upgrade, which is why they stick with the old, but still working PC and the old but still entirely reliable XP.

Decent rig? No GPU/Monitor/Keyboard and you're saying it's 1k US? Really? A grand will get you all the parts you need to build your own.

I'm speaking in terms of buying all the stuff yourself and putting it together. PCs are still considered a luxury item around here.

Damn. I built a machine, nothing too special but it allow me to play most games, with a monitor and win 7 for $800. This was about 4 years ago.
I plan on upgrading and will replace the cpu/motherboard, ram, and GPU. It will cost me around $900 but I'm going high end this time.

Are manufactured PCs, Dell, HP etc around the same price?

DerAppie: buckler: Jeng: Smoking GNU: what most around here see as a non-essential upgrade, which is why they stick with the old, but still working PC and the old but still entirely reliable XP.

Yes, but Windows 7 can be pirated and it often runs faster on the same hardware as XP as long as there are Win 7 drivers for the hardware.

So the answer to MS stopping support for XP (which was highly pirated) is to pirate Windows 7.

I'd love to upgrade to Win7, as I'm using XP now, but I'm poor as dirt. Doesn't Win7 do a system hardware scan and phone home with the results so it won't run on a different hardware platform?

Nope, I bought an OEM version a while back and I have a retail version. I accidentally installed with the OEM serial key on a new build instead of the retail key and nothing happened.

/Did switch out to the correct key after I found out.

You can get a copy of Win 7 for $99 at newegg and tigerdirect. Back up your data, do a clean install and you're good to go.


I have two legal keys. I'm good to go regardless. Especially with the retail key considering that it isn't limited to one build and can (legally) be used over as many hardware changes in my computer as I want.

I was commenting that using a single build key on multiple builds doesn't really influence anything.
 
2014-03-20 04:51:02 PM
Neckbeards still complaining about Windows 8? Jesus christ...
 
2014-03-20 05:38:01 PM

styckx: Neckbeards still complaining about Windows 8? Jesus christ...


I actually worked with Win 8 for the first time today, a new laptop for a project our company is doing in partnership with Rosch and the CDC.

5 minutes in and i absolutely hated it.
 
2014-03-20 05:42:15 PM

Smoking GNU: styckx: Neckbeards still complaining about Windows 8? Jesus christ...

I actually worked with Win 8 for the first time today, a new laptop for a project our company is doing in partnership with Rosch and the CDC.

5 minutes in and i absolutely hated it.


It took a bit, but I'm enjoying it now for the most part. Switching between Metro/Desktop is still pretty kludgey, but it's better with 8.1. It also behaves well with multiple monitor configurations.
 
2014-03-20 05:54:21 PM

Smoking GNU: I have yet to see a Newegg in this corner of Africa. Best i can do around here is http://nanodog.net/


I'm curious if you can get better deals through Amazon if they deliver to your neck of the woods.

DerAppie: I have two legal keys. I'm good to go regardless. Especially with the retail key considering that it isn't limited to one build and can (legally) be used over as many hardware changes in my computer as I want.

I was commenting that using a single build key on multiple builds doesn't really influence anything.


My bad, I was responding to buckler, hit the wrong quote button
 
2014-03-20 06:13:35 PM
Why should MS support XP? Companies should have upgraded to W7 years ago. Besides, if they were to support an old OS, I'd rather have seen them support Win 2000, which I feel was their best version.
 
2014-03-20 06:15:36 PM

Unoriginal_Username: Smoking GNU: I have yet to see a Newegg in this corner of Africa. Best i can do around here is http://nanodog.net/

I'm curious if you can get better deals through Amazon if they deliver to your neck of the woods.

DerAppie: I have two legal keys. I'm good to go regardless. Especially with the retail key considering that it isn't limited to one build and can (legally) be used over as many hardware changes in my computer as I want.

I was commenting that using a single build key on multiple builds doesn't really influence anything.

My bad, I was responding to buckler, hit the wrong quote button


Got it, thank you.
 
2014-03-20 06:29:03 PM

Unoriginal_Username: Smoking GNU: I have yet to see a Newegg in this corner of Africa. Best i can do around here is http://nanodog.net/

I'm curious if you can get better deals through Amazon if they deliver to your neck of the woods.


No one delivers to my neck of the woods. At all. My sister has a friend in the US, and when she buys stuff on amazon and similar, she makes it so that it ships to him, then he sends it to us with DHL.
 
2014-03-20 06:47:29 PM
I'm no shill, but I'd recommend Xubuntu for grandparents running XP. Install it, show them where the e-mail and internet is, then enjoy never getting tech support calls ever again.
 
2014-03-20 06:52:17 PM
So, I'm posting in this thread from my Win 98 desktop, on Netscape Navigator.
Neener.
 
2014-03-20 07:08:03 PM

Mentalpatient87: Yeah, I think it's time I ditch Avast. It's been getting pretty annoying with the multiple popups about their crappy every time I start my computer.


I'd like to replace Avast too, but I don't trust MSSE.
 
2014-03-20 07:25:24 PM
Security Essentials will also not be available for download for XP as of April 8.  As an IT consultant, here's my take on ending support for XP:

I like XP.  It's still a pretty decent OS, but it's definitely showing its age.  I absolutely hate Windows 8.  I'd rather use Vista.  Windows 7 is freaking awesome.  I think it's quicker and more stable than XP, and I like the interface.  Making MS support an old OS forever just because people don't want to change is kind of asking a lot.  It costs money to keep supporting old shiat, so I am not upset with the decision to kill it.

You also have to keep in mind all the software companies.  It costs them money to keep writing code for old OS's, so they have an out now.  It's time to move on to the world of 64-bit computing.  XP x64 was a joke.  I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.  If you want to stick with ~3.5 GB of usable RAM, only install 3.5 GB if that makes you happy.  Hopefully Win 9 will fix a lot of the interface issues that bother us non-touchscreen users.  At it's core, Win 8 isn't bad.  Pretty small footprint compared to 7, and some new features.  Server 2012 has a better interface than 8, but still kinda sucky.  I've installed 8 a couple times for my own use with my MS action pack subscription, trying to adapt, but both times it lasted about 2 hours before I wiped the machine and installed 7.  If MS gets their shiat together with 9, people will start moving over.
 
2014-03-20 07:36:20 PM

Smoking GNU: Unoriginal_Username: Smoking GNU: I have yet to see a Newegg in this corner of Africa. Best i can do around here is http://nanodog.net/

I'm curious if you can get better deals through Amazon if they deliver to your neck of the woods.

No one delivers to my neck of the woods. At all. My sister has a friend in the US, and when she buys stuff on amazon and similar, she makes it so that it ships to him, then he sends it to us with DHL.


If it's cheaper, and you don't mind waiting, I can see that as an option.
 
2014-03-20 07:45:37 PM
Personally, I think the only we'll ever solve the virus/botnet/whatever problem is to start fining people, when their machine is involved in some kind of security problem. Your machine spreads a virus to another one on the Internet? You get a fine. It's discovered that your machine (or wireless router, lately) is part of a botnet? You get a fine. Start the fine small, like $10, then increase it for each additional violation, up to a maximum of something like $500. That'll certainly get grandma to learn how to use security software, learn how to use a more secure operating system, or get her off the Internet, entirely. (I imagine that, at some point, security software vendors will start offering a guarantee, where they'll pay the fine, if your machine is hacked, while their software is active.) Either way, it will certainly improve things for everyone else.
 
2014-03-20 08:00:18 PM
Good luck with that Dadoo
 
2014-03-20 08:29:21 PM

GoldSpider: Mentalpatient87: Yeah, I think it's time I ditch Avast. It's been getting pretty annoying with the multiple popups about their crappy every time I start my computer.

I'd like to replace Avast too, but I don't trust MSSE.


You're one of those people who still spells Microsoft with  dollar sign arent't you?
 
2014-03-20 09:19:08 PM

jso2897: So, I'm posting in this thread from my Win 98 desktop, on Netscape Navigator.
Neener.


I ran 98 til I got my new computer 3 years ago. I like an OS that doesn't connect to the internet or access my HD unless I tell it to.

I even found a guy who gave me a VMM hack to allow 98 to run with >2GB RAM.

I might upgrade to a new 64 bit OS if I have the time. So never.
 
2014-03-20 09:28:52 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: jso2897: So, I'm posting in this thread from my Win 98 desktop, on Netscape Navigator.
Neener.

I ran 98 til I got my new computer 3 years ago. I like an OS that doesn't connect to the internet or access my HD unless I tell it to.

I even found a guy who gave me a VMM hack to allow 98 to run with >2GB RAM.

I might upgrade to a new 64 bit OS if I have the time. So never.


It's an old machine I have space for - I use it to occasionally make a post like that, and to play old DOS-based games. They really do run better natively in the DOS shell than they do in emulators. But i wouldn't seriously use it for anything else. I only use XP on VMs now - it's just safer to keep it sandboxed.But there are lotsa apps that won't run on 8.1 - and it's going to be a clusterf**k in enterprise.
 
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