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(Baltimore Sun)   Maryland Transportation Authority will post "do not tailgate" sign to keep trucks from launching more cars into Chesapeake Bay. Even though it was just a Chrysler   (baltimoresun.com) divider line 79
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2014-03-20 09:22:04 AM  
"The new NTSB report found that between 2008 and 2010, the highest concentration of accidents on the bridge occurred in the area where Lovasz hit Lake's vehicle, after the eastbound toll plaza and entering the leftward curve.
Between 2002 and 2012, according to MdTA accident reports, 624 crashes occurred on the bridge's two spans. Five people were killed in three accidents."

I'm not sure new signage is going to help with that.
 
2014-03-20 09:33:46 AM  

ginandbacon: "The new NTSB report found that between 2008 and 2010, the highest concentration of accidents on the bridge occurred in the area where Lovasz hit Lake's vehicle, after the eastbound toll plaza and entering the leftward curve.
Between 2002 and 2012, according to MdTA accident reports, 624 crashes occurred on the bridge's two spans. Five people were killed in three accidents."

I'm not sure new signage is going to help with that.


Furthermore, "tailgating" was not even remotely the cause of this accident. Dude was going 50, wasn't paying attention, came up on traffic going 4, and slammed on the brakes at the very last second (only managed to slow to 47).
 
2014-03-20 09:55:25 AM  
I never thought that area was bad.  The two tunnels though.. they scare the shiat out of me when I drive on through the bay bridge.  Every scenario possible seems to go through my brain during the short time you're underwater.  "Why isn't that guy going at least 45?"  "What the hell happens if an accident occurs"  "Oh shiat, is that water I see leaking from the walls"  And then.. daylight.  *whew*
 
2014-03-20 10:39:48 AM  
I drive over the Bay Bridge 3 or 4 times a year, its only scary when you are in that one lane that goes opposite on the other side, i don't like that, and I'm always in that lane because of easy pass.
 
2014-03-20 10:40:51 AM  
Another crisis caused by people going to the left.
 
2014-03-20 11:23:00 AM  
How about some of these:

criticsofeverything.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-03-20 11:23:58 AM  
Did it seat about 20, subs?
 
2014-03-20 11:28:02 AM  
Trying to get Maryland drivers not to tailgate? Good luck with that. Might as well try to convince birds not to fly.
 
2014-03-20 11:28:26 AM  

ginandbacon: I'm not sure new signage is going to help with that.


How I'm uhpposed to be readinz a sign when Imma on the phone and trying to pass?
 
2014-03-20 11:30:27 AM  
Why the fark was she doing only 4 mph?  We can't even get people to drive less than 15 mph in parking lots around here, hell, they're doing at least 25-30 like they were on a surface road.
 
2014-03-20 11:31:49 AM  

Gecko Gingrich


Furthermore, "tailgating" was not even remotely the cause of this accident. Dude was going 50, wasn't paying attention, came up on traffic going 4, and slammed on the brakes at the very last second (only managed to slow to 47).


True, but "Don't drive 40+ mph faster than the car ahead of you" doesn't fit on the sign very well.

A "No accidents allowed" sign would be equally effective.
 
2014-03-20 11:31:53 AM  
Oh, a sign. Well, that"ll work. People always obey sings.
 
2014-03-20 11:33:17 AM  
Idiot guy wasn't paying attention. None of their "solutions" would have prevented this accident.
 
2014-03-20 11:33:27 AM  
fark the Bridge and all the traffic....

i.imgur.com

Go over the top. With an E-Z Pass it's like $10 but I can do the run in about 2 1/2 hours...I just generalized from the Mid Baltimore/ DC way point.

With all the other Bridge suckers in the last, we've burned about a tank of gas and taken about 3 1/2 hours over the bridge.

/more than one way to skin a cat.
 
2014-03-20 11:34:31 AM  
I've got your "Do Not Tailgate" sign right here:

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com


/Seriously, stay off of my bumper.
 
Biv
2014-03-20 11:35:14 AM  

lokis_mentor: Did it seat about 20, subs?


*shakes tiny fist*

/Big as a whale.
 
2014-03-20 11:35:47 AM  

BunkyBrewman: I never thought that area was bad.


I grew up on the island on the east end of the bridge, so crossing was a daily occurrence. 90% of people are fine and treat it like the highway it is. But the rest are mortally terrified of it. Driving 30 mph, white knuckling the whole way. I know people that have lived their life in Queen Anne's County and have never crossed the bridge. If they need to get to the western shore they go up around the bay. It's inane.

Plus there's no reason for the traffic. None. People see a highway cone or a flashing light and it's time to creep. That bridge is maddening. So glad to be far, far away.

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Trying to get Maryland drivers not to tailgate? Good luck with that. Might as well try to convince birds not to fly.


You sound slow.
 
2014-03-20 11:36:42 AM  

danno_to_infinity: Why the fark was she doing only 4 mph?  We can't even get people to drive less than 15 mph in parking lots around here, hell, they're doing at least 25-30 like they were on a surface road.


Presumably traffic ahead of her was congested and also traveling at about 4 mph.  In such cases it is usually advisable to match their speed rather than proceed at 50 mph, at least if your vehicle is small enough that you're not able to launch the other cars out of the way.
 
2014-03-20 11:38:12 AM  
Way to waste another half million dollars, assholes
 
2014-03-20 11:38:50 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: I've got your "Do Not Tailgate" sign right here:

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/Seriously, stay off of my bumper.


Yeah, but you know around here that's just gonna make the person behind you rage out and try to run you off the road.

/why yes this did happen to me on 395
//going 5 over in wall to wall traffic in the right lane with no where to go just isn't good enough for some cockfaces
 
2014-03-20 11:39:36 AM  

BunkyBrewman: I never thought that area was bad.  The two tunnels though.. they scare the shiat out of me when I drive on through the bay bridge.  Every scenario possible seems to go through my brain during the short time you're underwater.  "Why isn't that guy going at least 45?"  "What the hell happens if an accident occurs"  "Oh shiat, is that water I see leaking from the walls"  And then.. daylight.  *whew*


the bridge in the article is the bay bridge in Maryland, it has no tunnels.

but I agree with you about the Bay bridgŧunnel. My biggest issue with it is that for the tunnels, the funnel four lanes of traffic down to two lanes (one going either direction) for the tunnels.

of course, the bridge was a hundred times more freaky before they expanded it, why they didnt build two more tunnels is beyond me.
 
2014-03-20 11:41:54 AM  
Tailgating is a sport here in Maryland. I often have to brake check at least one driver on my way to and from work.

// Don't even get me started on all the farktards on University Boulevard near Langley Park, MD.
 
2014-03-20 11:43:29 AM  
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2014-03-20 11:43:42 AM  

vernonFL: I drive over the Bay Bridge 3 or 4 times a year, its only scary when you are in that one lane that goes opposite on the other side, i don't like that, and I'm always in that lane because of easy pass.


This.

The wife and I go downy ocean for a couple of days around Labor Day, and we're invariably in that lane. Simply terrifying.
 
2014-03-20 11:45:26 AM  

eyemarten: Oh, a sign. Well, that"ll work. People always obey sings.


Depends on what they're singing, I think.
 
2014-03-20 11:47:29 AM  

robertus: Simply terrifying.


Cheaper than disney world rides.
 
2014-03-20 11:49:53 AM  
Is there anything more American then America? How about a Italian company that purchased a subsidiary of a German company that used to be an American company?


Chrysler.
 
2014-03-20 11:51:54 AM  
I'll be the first to admit I hate that bridge.  Driving it in a car isn't so bad, but in a pickup truck, I just see myself going in the drink if someone tags me, and I just don't trust most of the aersholes out there on the road today.

One of the spans of the De. Memorial is like that too.  like ZERO guardrail.  The second span built (incidentally, I can see the Del Mem Br from my office window) has Jersey barriers on it.  Same thing with the Walt Whitman Bridge (both were designed by the same engineer, and share many characteristics).

The Ben Franklin bridge is a pleasure to cross.  The girders shield the roadway, so if some dope tags you, you're not going in the river.

It's not so much the idea of heights, it's the design of the span in conjunction with the traffic.  Here, you had an individual who drives for a living (you would hope, a "professional") and he caused a crash that put someone in the drink.
 
2014-03-20 11:52:10 AM  

Scrotastic Method: BunkyBrewman: I never thought that area was bad.

I grew up on the island on the east end of the bridge, so crossing was a daily occurrence. 90% of people are fine and treat it like the highway it is. But the rest are mortally terrified of it. Driving 30 mph, white knuckling the whole way. I know people that have lived their life in Queen Anne's County and have never crossed the bridge. If they need to get to the western shore they go up around the bay. It's inane.

Plus there's no reason for the traffic. None. People see a highway cone or a flashing light and it's time to creep. That bridge is maddening. So glad to be far, far away.

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Trying to get Maryland drivers not to tailgate? Good luck with that. Might as well try to convince birds not to fly.

You sound slow.


Actually, the reason this happens isn't because Marylanders like to tailgate, it's that they like to cut people off.  Let's say I'm Mr. Good Driver and I leave a nice gap between myself and the car in front of me.  Some jackass is going to dive into that gap and slam on their brakes.  Then when I rear-end that jackass, I'm cited for tailgating.  It's happened.  So to prevent that, you have to keep that gap too small to get a car into it, hence tailgating.

/so glad I moved away from the city
//now in PA, whole different set of problems
 
2014-03-20 11:56:07 AM  
I've never seen a situation where following the vehicle in front of you closely accomplishes anything.
Even when stopped at a light, leaving space is a good idea.
Sometimes, someone in front of you has car trouble, and, if you leave space, you can change lanes and get around it.

With no space, you can try to back up or you can honk your horn.
 
2014-03-20 11:56:47 AM  
I used to drive over the bridge every day. It's not scary.
The biggest issue is the free for all merge that happens right before and after the toll plaza.
3 lanes to  something like 18 down to 2 makes for some interesting maneuvers.

For a while before the accident they were feeding traffic through 4-6 zones to control the merging.

And even though the accident that sparked this wasn't caused by tailgating, tailgating does cause most of the accidents.
 
2014-03-20 11:57:46 AM  

Meatschool: Actually, the reason this happens isn't because Marylanders like to tailgate, it's that they like to cut people off. Let's say I'm Mr. Good Driver and I leave a nice gap between myself and the car in front of me. Some jackass is going to dive into that gap and slam on their brakes. Then when I rear-end that jackass, I'm cited for tailgating. It's happened. So to prevent that, you have to keep that gap too small to get a car into it, hence tailgating.


I've noticed that MD drivers are THE WORST at staying out of a blind spot. When they see you signal for a lane change, they'll get right up in it, for no good reason at all.

// and the sooner they put a bounty on DC cabbies, the better
// but that's just my pet peeve
 
2014-03-20 11:58:31 AM  
CTRL + F "Kornheiser".

He's gonna freak out.
 
2014-03-20 12:00:15 PM  
I have a friend over 50 who goes to the eastern shore quite frequently. He's one of those police wannabe macho types, however, when he gets to the bay bridge he turns into a total pussy. He can't drive over that bridge and has to have a passenger take over or when there's no one with him he has to have someone who works there drive him over. A couple times the police would drive him over.

/just saying
//only time I got iffy was going over in high winds
///can't wait for next trip
////fark the polar vortex
 
2014-03-20 12:02:01 PM  
Maryland drivers just barely beat out Virginia drivers for the worst. Also, when you drive into the District for work, and you get stuck in traffic, and then honk a bunch, just remember, you made that terrible decision to live in the burbs and drive. At least go to a park and ride you suburban scum.
 
2014-03-20 12:05:36 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: BunkyBrewman: I never thought that area was bad.  The two tunnels though.. they scare the shiat out of me when I drive on through the bay bridge.  Every scenario possible seems to go through my brain during the short time you're underwater.  "Why isn't that guy going at least 45?"  "What the hell happens if an accident occurs"  "Oh shiat, is that water I see leaking from the walls"  And then.. daylight.  *whew*

the bridge in the article is the bay bridge in Maryland, it has no tunnels.


Came here to say this, glad I read forward.

but I agree with you about the Bay bridgŧunnel. My biggest issue with it is that for the tunnels, the funnel four lanes of traffic down to two lanes (one going either direction) for the tunnels.

of course, the bridge was a hundred times more freaky before they expanded it, why they didnt build two more tunnels is beyond me.


The tunnels give me a slight case of the willies, but it's kind of cool to realize I've just driven under a farking cargo ship!
 
2014-03-20 12:06:17 PM  
Solution:

carlistmy-blogcdn.s3.amazonaws.com

Mandate it and include early braking in anticipation of accidents. No matter how hard you hit that skinny pedal it won't let you get too close. Require it to be retrofit on commercial vehicles.
 
2014-03-20 12:15:03 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: BunkyBrewman: I never thought that area was bad.  The two tunnels though.. they scare the shiat out of me when I drive on through the bay bridge.  Every scenario possible seems to go through my brain during the short time you're underwater.  "Why isn't that guy going at least 45?"  "What the hell happens if an accident occurs"  "Oh shiat, is that water I see leaking from the walls"  And then.. daylight.  *whew*

the bridge in the article is the bay bridge in Maryland, it has no tunnels.

but I agree with you about the Bay bridgŧunnel. My biggest issue with it is that for the tunnels, the funnel four lanes of traffic down to two lanes (one going either direction) for the tunnels.

of course, the bridge was a hundred times more freaky before they expanded it, why they didnt build two more tunnels is beyond me.


FYI, these tunnels are buried into the ground, not "underwater" per say. There has been very few occurrences of tunnels collapsing, but no occurrences of tunnels flooding (aside from storm flooding), that I can find. Being in one of these tunnels is the same as being in the metro subway essentially.
 
2014-03-20 12:16:12 PM  

robertus: vernonFL: I drive over the Bay Bridge 3 or 4 times a year, its only scary when you are in that one lane that goes opposite on the other side, i don't like that, and I'm always in that lane because of easy pass.

This.

The wife and I go downy ocean for a couple of days around Labor Day, and we're invariably in that lane. Simply terrifying.


Yup the ole "suicide" lane. Last week it was closed due to high winds. Took forever at the damn toll plaza it was back up all the way to the National Guard Armory in Annapolis. I almost got run over twice by the same truck after the toll. Farker cut me off .....twice. I want to slap the person that has the tolls go from 10 lanes to 2 in 200 feet.
 
2014-03-20 12:16:26 PM  
It's a shiat bridge. I'll say that again, it's. a. shiat. bridge.

They're always doing construction. Always. It's poorly designed. When the 'main span' is closed, the other side, which is just two lanes, switches to oncoming traffic mode.

Whoever thought that having a narrow, two lane bridge with ONCOMING TRAFFIC in the other lane was an acceptable solution should be shot. Dumb, dumb, dumb. And heading east, you get the further kick in the balls of a $6 toll.

Moved down here from New England to help out my parents. The drivers in the tri-state area (PA/VA/DC/MD) make Massholes look like surgeons. Innate driver idiocy + stupidly designed bridge = people dying. Last year a teenager was texting, drifted into the oncoming traffic lane in front of a truck.

Trucker swerved to avoid her, successfully missed her and went over the bridge to his death.

It's a giant satanic prayerwheel of suck.
 
2014-03-20 12:17:27 PM  
If you want freaky bridges to drive on the Chesapeake Bay Bridge has nothing on the Pulaski Skyway.  CBB you at least have water to land in.  Pulaski?  you fly off that you're hitting industrial buildings.
 
2014-03-20 12:20:29 PM  

Cdr.Murdock: I'll be the first to admit I hate that bridge.  Driving it in a car isn't so bad, but in a pickup truck, I just see myself going in the drink if someone tags me, and I just don't trust most of the aersholes out there on the road today.

One of the spans of the De. Memorial is like that too.  like ZERO guardrail.  The second span built (incidentally, I can see the Del Mem Br from my office window) has Jersey barriers on it.  Same thing with the Walt Whitman Bridge (both were designed by the same engineer, and share many characteristics).

The Ben Franklin bridge is a pleasure to cross.  The girders shield the roadway, so if some dope tags you, you're not going in the river.

It's not so much the idea of heights, it's the design of the span in conjunction with the traffic.  Here, you had an individual who drives for a living (you would hope, a "professional") and he caused a crash that put someone in the drink.


I'll bet you'd just love the Harry W. Nice bridge!  (Rte 301, crosses the Potomac between MD and VA).  I'm not bridge-phobic (unlike my sister, who will cringe down to the floorboards if she's not driving) but that bridge gives me the Willies.

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Narrow lanes, no shoulder at all, just jersey barriers and a lovely view of the waters to either side.

And just for emphasis:

cdn.blogs.fredericksburg.com
 
2014-03-20 12:21:48 PM  
Nothing will get drivers to pull there heads out and pay attention like a sign.
 
2014-03-20 12:35:33 PM  

Carn: DROxINxTHExWIND: I've got your "Do Not Tailgate" sign right here:

[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 262x193]


/Seriously, stay off of my bumper.

Yeah, but you know around here that's just gonna make the person behind you rage out and try to run you off the road.

/why yes this did happen to me on 395
//going 5 over in wall to wall traffic in the right lane with no where to go just isn't good enough for some cockfaces



*Sigh*

Yes, I'm aware that it will probably go badly. Fortunately (or unfortunately) I'm as crazy as they are so it doesn't shock me.


/I'm trying to cool it behind the wheel
//Got flipped off this morning and smiled, so I'm doing better
///Pray for me
 
2014-03-20 12:50:21 PM  

Deucednuisance: Cdr.Murdock: I'll be the first to admit I hate that bridge.  Driving it in a car isn't so bad, but in a pickup truck, I just see myself going in the drink if someone tags me, and I just don't trust most of the aersholes out there on the road today.

One of the spans of the De. Memorial is like that too.  like ZERO guardrail.  The second span built (incidentally, I can see the Del Mem Br from my office window) has Jersey barriers on it.  Same thing with the Walt Whitman Bridge (both were designed by the same engineer, and share many characteristics).

The Ben Franklin bridge is a pleasure to cross.  The girders shield the roadway, so if some dope tags you, you're not going in the river.

It's not so much the idea of heights, it's the design of the span in conjunction with the traffic.  Here, you had an individual who drives for a living (you would hope, a "professional") and he caused a crash that put someone in the drink.

I'll bet you'd just love the Harry W. Nice bridge!  (Rte 301, crosses the Potomac between MD and VA).  I'm not bridge-phobic (unlike my sister, who will cringe down to the floorboards if she's not driving) but that bridge gives me the Willies.

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Narrow lanes, no shoulder at all, just jersey barriers and a lovely view of the waters to either side.

And just for emphasis:

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Yeah that's a fun one.
 
2014-03-20 12:52:15 PM  
i used to drive over the Bay Bridge 3-4 times a week each direction.

PAVE THE BAY
 
2014-03-20 01:03:38 PM  
I'm surprised no one has been punted off the Tydings bridge either.

When you're driving over it, it looks like a normal road with standard jersey walls on the side.

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You're actually this high up over the water.

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I think it does help it's a straight pass over the water and the toll plaza is up the road from it.
 
2014-03-20 01:12:36 PM  

mjones73: I'm surprised no one has been punted off the Tydings bridge either.

When you're driving over it, it looks like a normal road with standard jersey walls on the side.

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You're actually this high up over the water.

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I think it does help it's a straight pass over the water and the toll plaza is up the road from it.


I sort of wish the first one was animated, so you could see cars get buffeted from one lane to the other. It might be calm passing Havre de Grace, but as soon as you come out of that pass onto the bridge (northbound; southbound, it might be calm coming out of the DE toll), it's like a date with your mom - you get blown all over the road.
 
2014-03-20 01:16:54 PM  
Dr Dreidel:

I sort of wish the first one was animated, so you could see cars get buffeted from one lane to the other. It might be calm passing Havre de Grace, but as soon as you come out of that pass onto the bridge (northbound; southbound, it might be calm coming out of the DE toll), it's like a date with your mom - you get blown all over the road.

I know exactly what you are talking about. :)

I've has the pleasure of being stuck on that bridge at night during construction, it shakes and sways nicely with all the traffic passing the other direction also.
 
2014-03-20 01:30:44 PM  
Not a fan of the Tydings bridge either.  Sometimes, when I'm going to Havre de Grace I'll get off the highway and go down to the RT 40 bridge.  Much more to my liking.

Havre de Grace has some nice antique shops.  Made a few additions to my neon beer sign collection down there.

If memory serves, there's a nice bar that used to be a bank in town has a decent view of the water and good food.  It's down the street from a pawn shop.

And who DOESN'T like a pawn shop?
 
2014-03-20 01:31:57 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Carn: DROxINxTHExWIND: I've got your "Do Not Tailgate" sign right here:

[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 262x193]


/Seriously, stay off of my bumper.

Yeah, but you know around here that's just gonna make the person behind you rage out and try to run you off the road.

/why yes this did happen to me on 395
//going 5 over in wall to wall traffic in the right lane with no where to go just isn't good enough for some cockfaces


*Sigh*

Yes, I'm aware that it will probably go badly. Fortunately (or unfortunately) I'm as crazy as they are so it doesn't shock me.


/I'm trying to cool it behind the wheel
//Got flipped off this morning and smiled, so I'm doing better
///Pray for me


I don't have any good advice honestly.  I used to rage pretty hard but I'm actually an extremely patient driver now (although I did flip somebody off in a parking lot last month, but their asshattery was epic), and the thing that really made me change was my first job here was as a delivery driver.  You think people are trying to hit you now, try driving a giant van around.  I spent the whole time hyper-aware trying to keep people from hitting me and farking up the cargo that now when I'm driving a car I can shrug off all but the most egregious dick moves.  I find it also helps to make fun of them.  Like when somebody tailgates you when you're not on the left and you're like "WTF" then they floor it to go in the left lane only to be stuck because traffic is moving at the same speed I go "vroooooooooom vrooooooooooooooom"!  Also when I'm waiting for a spot to open so I can change lanes I'll flip on my turn signal then cheer on the car behind the open spot.  "Block the gap!  Block the gap!  You can do it!  YEAH!  Way to go, dumbass!".  Or the merge tards or whatever.
 
2014-03-20 01:35:33 PM  
I also hate the suicide lane on this bridge. There is an EZ Pass only lane (or there was last summer) all the way to the right that will let you avoid the suicide lane.
 
2014-03-20 01:44:21 PM  

Cdr.Murdock: Not a fan of the Tydings bridge either.  Sometimes, when I'm going to Havre de Grace I'll get off the highway and go down to the RT 40 bridge.  Much more to my liking.

Havre de Grace has some nice antique shops.  Made a few additions to my neon beer sign collection down there.

If memory serves, there's a nice bar that used to be a bank in town has a decent view of the water and good food.  It's down the street from a pawn shop.

And who DOESN'T like a pawn shop?


The Hatem is much nicer since they've re-surfaced it. If you travel over it more then 3-4 times a year, you can add on a $20 charge to your MD EZ-Pass (or get a Hatem specific EZ-Pass) that gives you unlimited passes for a year. Be warned they plan to remove the toll takers in the future so the cash only cost is going up to $12 ($8 plus a $4 video toll surcharge, they mail you a bill for the toll.)

I think the bar you're referring to is MacGregors. Coakley's a block up has decent food also.
 
2014-03-20 02:04:04 PM  

Inflatable Rhetoric: eyemarten: Oh, a sign. Well, that"ll work. People always obey sings.

Depends on what they're singing, I think.


Heh. I apologise.

I wrote that while in the DMV. Everyone knows that just setting foot in the DMV raises the blood pressure and makes it hard to write coherently.
 
2014-03-20 02:06:42 PM  

Znuh: It's a shiat bridge. I'll say that again, it's. a. shiat. bridge.

They're always doing construction. Always. It's poorly designed. When the 'main span' is closed, the other side, which is just two lanes, switches to oncoming traffic mode.

Whoever thought that having a narrow, two lane bridge with ONCOMING TRAFFIC in the other lane was an acceptable solution should be shot. Dumb, dumb, dumb. And heading east, you get the further kick in the balls of a $6 toll.


The design is fine...who knew in 1950 that the DC, Baltimore, Ft. Meade, and Annapolis suburbs were going to extend out past Queenstown?

There are many bridges with oncoming traffic in the lane to your left, and some of those even cost a lot more than $6. For example:

 schaechter.asmblog.org
 
2014-03-20 02:21:29 PM  
 Oldsmobile?  Ted Kennedy unavailable for comment.
 
2014-03-20 02:22:08 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Solution:

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Mandate it and include early braking in anticipation of accidents. No matter how hard you hit that skinny pedal it won't let you get too close. Require it to be retrofit on commercial vehicles.


Or you can just install a couple of cameras and announce you are going to mail them tickets until people learn to put adequate spacing.

No need to mandate people buy things and install them.

No tickets unless there is video evidence to prove someone didnt just pull in front of you 1/2 second before the picture was taken...etc.
 
2014-03-20 03:09:06 PM  

Anayalator: How about some of these:

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No lane changes allowed on the bridge.
 
2014-03-20 03:10:39 PM  

danno_to_infinity: Why the fark was she doing only 4 mph?  We can't even get people to drive less than 15 mph in parking lots around here, hell, they're doing at least 25-30 like they were on a surface road.


Traffic jams, how do they work?
 
2014-03-20 03:41:14 PM  

lordjupiter: Way to waste another half million dollars, assholes


Marftin O'Malley, Governor and Lord Proprietor
 
2014-03-20 03:47:35 PM  

Znuh: It's a shiat bridge. I'll say that again, it's. a. shiat. bridge.

They're always doing construction. Always. It's poorly designed. When the 'main span' is closed, the other side, which is just two lanes, switches to oncoming traffic mode.

Whoever thought that having a narrow, two lane bridge with ONCOMING TRAFFIC in the other lane was an acceptable solution should be shot. Dumb, dumb, dumb. And heading east, you get the further kick in the balls of a $6 toll.

Moved down here from New England to help out my parents. The drivers in the tri-state area (PA/VA/DC/MD) make Massholes look like surgeons. Innate driver idiocy + stupidly designed bridge = people dying. Last year a teenager was texting, drifted into the oncoming traffic lane in front of a truck.

Trucker swerved to avoid her, successfully missed her and went over the bridge to his death.

It's a giant satanic prayerwheel of suck.


In defense of the bridge, it was built in 1952, then upgraded in 1973. it's woefully outdated by todays standards obviously, but when it was first built, it was god send to the residents of the DelMarVa. there are documentries about how it improved the standard of living out there.
and of course, traffic FORTY YEARS AGO was nothing like it is now.

that it hasn't been upgraded, or replaced by now is more of a failing on the state of Maryland.
 
2014-03-20 03:52:16 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: Znuh: It's a shiat bridge. I'll say that again, it's. a. shiat. bridge.

They're always doing construction. Always. It's poorly designed. When the 'main span' is closed, the other side, which is just two lanes, switches to oncoming traffic mode.

Whoever thought that having a narrow, two lane bridge with ONCOMING TRAFFIC in the other lane was an acceptable solution should be shot. Dumb, dumb, dumb. And heading east, you get the further kick in the balls of a $6 toll.

Moved down here from New England to help out my parents. The drivers in the tri-state area (PA/VA/DC/MD) make Massholes look like surgeons. Innate driver idiocy + stupidly designed bridge = people dying. Last year a teenager was texting, drifted into the oncoming traffic lane in front of a truck.

Trucker swerved to avoid her, successfully missed her and went over the bridge to his death.

It's a giant satanic prayerwheel of suck.

In defense of the bridge, it was built in 1952, then upgraded in 1973. it's woefully outdated by todays standards obviously, but when it was first built, it was god send to the residents of the DelMarVa. there are documentries about how it improved the standard of living out there.
and of course, traffic FORTY YEARS AGO was nothing like it is now.

that it hasn't been upgraded, or replaced by now is more of a failing on the state of Maryland.


I'd have to agree.
 
2014-03-20 04:04:54 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: that it hasn't been upgraded, or replaced by now is more of a failing on the state of Maryland.


I find it very amusing that this came right after:

Fusilier: lordjupiter: Way to waste another half million dollars, assholes

Marftin O'Malley, Governor and Lord Proprietor


Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

// CARCETTI 2016
 
2014-03-20 04:10:17 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Cerebral Knievel: that it hasn't been upgraded, or replaced by now is more of a failing on the state of Maryland.

I find it very amusing that this came right after:

Fusilier: lordjupiter: Way to waste another half million dollars, assholes

Marftin O'Malley, Governor and Lord Proprietor

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

// CARCETTI 2016


Well, one is cogent. There other barely coherent.
 
2014-03-20 04:24:12 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Cerebral Knievel: that it hasn't been upgraded, or replaced by now is more of a failing on the state of Maryland.

I find it very amusing that this came right after:

Fusilier: lordjupiter: Way to waste another half million dollars, assholes

Marftin O'Malley, Governor and Lord Proprietor

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

// CARCETTI 2016


A half million in signs isn't going to upgrade the bridge itself.
 
2014-03-20 04:36:16 PM  
Carcetti/Pelosi - 2016
 
2014-03-20 04:41:30 PM  

mjones73: A half million in signs isn't going to upgrade the bridge itself.


Because a several-hundred-million-dollar upgrade package will be more acceptable to Fredneckians and other GOP supporters in MD?
 
2014-03-20 04:59:33 PM  

Meatschool: Actually, the reason this happens isn't because Marylanders like to tailgate, it's that they like to cut people off. Let's say I'm Mr. Good Driver and I leave a nice gap between myself and the car in front of me. Some jackass is going to dive into that gap and slam on their brakes. Then when I rear-end that jackass, I'm cited for tailgating. It's happened. So to prevent that, you have to keep that gap too small to get a car into it, hence tailgating.


OR... you leave sufficient following distance and when someone jumps in front of you, just let off the accelerator and let the distance build up again. And even in that case, a critically short following distance doesn't occur. I find that to be a lot safer and lower stress rather than raging impotently and tailgating the car in front of me or the clown who just jumped in front of me.

As long as I keep making progress in the right direction, I'll take it.

There's a myth that if you let people in, that you'll somehow grind to a stop but in reality that doesn't EVER happen.

// 495 and 695 veteran
 
2014-03-20 04:59:49 PM  
The Maryland GOP can meet in a booth at the Double T.                                                                     The whole beauty of Maryland is that it's a Peoples' Paradise; the perfect one party state.
Just ask  "Mike" Miller. That ole man must be doing sumphin' right - He's been in the Senate for 50 years.
 
2014-03-20 05:13:31 PM  

Fusilier: The Maryland GOP can meet in a booth at the Double T. The whole beauty of Maryland is that it's a Peoples' Paradise; the perfect one party state. Just ask  "Mike" Miller. That ole man must be doing sumphin' right - He's been in the Senate for 50 years.


Let's ask Roscoe "I'm a loon who served my redder-than-communism district for 20 years" Bartlett.
upload.wikimedia.org

// and his son Joe - also a Republican - served in the Maryland Assembly for 12 years
 
2014-03-20 05:21:08 PM  
Will Ehrlich be blamed for the structural deficit Anthony Brown inherits?
 
2014-03-20 07:17:51 PM  
It was a Sebring, he was setting it free.
 
2014-03-20 08:49:00 PM  

mjones73: Dr Dreidel: Cerebral Knievel: that it hasn't been upgraded, or replaced by now is more of a failing on the state of Maryland.

I find it very amusing that this came right after:

Fusilier: lordjupiter: Way to waste another half million dollars, assholes

Marftin O'Malley, Governor and Lord Proprietor

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

// CARCETTI 2016

A half million in signs isn't going to upgrade the bridge itself.


A half million in signage on that bridge is a generic name self adhesive bandage from the everythingferaollar store repair/upgrade.

it's an insult really..

and this is coming from a guy in Virginia that has crossed over that bridge maybe twice in his forty years on this planet.
 
2014-03-20 09:29:01 PM  

Meatschool: Scrotastic Method: BunkyBrewman: I never thought that area was bad.

I grew up on the island on the east end of the bridge, so crossing was a daily occurrence. 90% of people are fine and treat it like the highway it is. But the rest are mortally terrified of it. Driving 30 mph, white knuckling the whole way. I know people that have lived their life in Queen Anne's County and have never crossed the bridge. If they need to get to the western shore they go up around the bay. It's inane.

Plus there's no reason for the traffic. None. People see a highway cone or a flashing light and it's time to creep. That bridge is maddening. So glad to be far, far away.

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Trying to get Maryland drivers not to tailgate? Good luck with that. Might as well try to convince birds not to fly.

You sound slow.

Actually, the reason this happens isn't because Marylanders like to tailgate, it's that they like to cut people off.  Let's say I'm Mr. Good Driver and I leave a nice gap between myself and the car in front of me.  Some jackass is going to dive into that gap and slam on their brakes.  Then when I rear-end that jackass, I'm cited for tailgating.  It's happened.  So to prevent that, you have to keep that gap too small to get a car into it, hence tailgating.

/so glad I moved away from the city
//now in PA, whole different set of problems



THIS.

/Have to brake check at least one tailgating asshole a day on my way to work in Springfield VA
//Was chased down 95 by a rageaholic who was passed that I prevented him from passing me on the right hand farking shoulder at the 95/395/495 South split
///D.C. area drivers (including VA AND Maryland) need to chill the fark out on their commutes
 
2014-03-20 10:32:33 PM  
See, Maryland? You took down all those "Please drive gently" signs at the state line, and see what happened?
 
2014-03-21 12:20:56 AM  

Deucednuisance: Cdr.Murdock: I'll be the first to admit I hate that bridge.  Driving it in a car isn't so bad, but in a pickup truck, I just see myself going in the drink if someone tags me, and I just don't trust most of the aersholes out there on the road today.

One of the spans of the De. Memorial is like that too.  like ZERO guardrail.  The second span built (incidentally, I can see the Del Mem Br from my office window) has Jersey barriers on it.  Same thing with the Walt Whitman Bridge (both were designed by the same engineer, and share many characteristics).

The Ben Franklin bridge is a pleasure to cross.  The girders shield the roadway, so if some dope tags you, you're not going in the river.

It's not so much the idea of heights, it's the design of the span in conjunction with the traffic.  Here, you had an individual who drives for a living (you would hope, a "professional") and he caused a crash that put someone in the drink.

I'll bet you'd just love the Harry W. Nice bridge!  (Rte 301, crosses the Potomac between MD and VA).  I'm not bridge-phobic (unlike my sister, who will cringe down to the floorboards if she's not driving) but that bridge gives me the Willies.

[soupisnotafingerfood.files.wordpress.com image 228x136]

Narrow lanes, no shoulder at all, just jersey barriers and a lovely view of the waters to either side.

And just for emphasis:

[cdn.blogs.fredericksburg.com image 797x374]


Used to drive it everyday, I have no problem but people who don't like bridges hate the Nice Bridge.
 
2014-03-21 08:43:35 AM  
I hate the bridge, but I am not willing to spend the extra time going around. We go camping at Assateague every fall. Last year we bought a camping trailer. I was a wreck going across the bridge. I kept imagining a sudden gust of wind just firing us over the edge. Also, with a 2 axle trailer, I had to pay $18 to cross the bridge. Also, all the people saying they get stuck in the lane with two way traffic, just go to the right. There are EZ pass lanes over there. Not as fast as the dedicated EZ pass lane on the left, but no chance of ending up on the extra scary death lane. Of course, I always make sure I am not crossing at peak hours either. I try to cross on a weekday in the late morning or early afternoon.
 
2014-03-21 12:58:40 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: BunkyBrewman: I never thought that area was bad.  The two tunnels though.. they scare the shiat out of me when I drive on through the bay bridge.  Every scenario possible seems to go through my brain during the short time you're underwater.  "Why isn't that guy going at least 45?"  "What the hell happens if an accident occurs"  "Oh shiat, is that water I see leaking from the walls"  And then.. daylight.  *whew*

the bridge in the article is the bay bridge in Maryland, it has no tunnels.

but I agree with you about the Bay bridgŧunnel. My biggest issue with it is that for the tunnels, the funnel four lanes of traffic down to two lanes (one going either direction) for the tunnels.

of course, the bridge was a hundred times more freaky before they expanded it, why they didnt build two more tunnels is beyond me.


Thanks.  I thought it was talking about the bridge-tunnel.  I was wondering where that accident happened when we drive to the OBX.
 
2014-03-21 01:19:49 PM  
I instantly saved 30% on my car insurance when I moved back to NoVA from MoCo.
 
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