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(NYPost)   It's essential to have multiple layers of well-paid and unionized security and police watching the Freedom Tower 24/7, otherwise some random teenager could just sneak in and spend two hours messing around on the 104th floor   (nypost.com) divider line 112
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2014-03-20 08:57:07 AM
I'm just glad they were able to get at least one good anti-union dig into the article, and that you were in turn able to translate that into your headline, subby. Unions clearly are the main problem here, but we can rest easy knowing that you and yours are working hard toward effective and sensible solutions.
 
2014-03-20 09:11:51 AM

Pocket Ninja: I'm just glad they were able to get at least one good anti-union dig into the article, and that you were in turn able to translate that into your headline, subby. Unions clearly are the main problem here, but we can rest easy knowing that you and yours are working hard toward effective and sensible solutions.


8/10, with a perfect score not achieved because of your failure to get the boot in on the one poor dumbass security guard who is losing his gig, because he wasn't part of a union that would have protected his right to fall asleep on the job.
 
2014-03-20 09:18:13 AM
Mad props to this kid
 
2014-03-20 09:37:28 AM
Well, how else are we going to know if the drywall is peeling off the stairwells?
 
2014-03-20 09:39:43 AM
I've had it with these unions. I'm voting for Hitler.
 
2014-03-20 09:40:36 AM

Gulper Eel: 8/10, with a perfect score not achieved because of your failure to get the boot in on the one poor dumbass security guard who is losing his gig, because he wasn't part of a union that would have protected his right to fall asleep on the job.


Yet another Brave American victimized by citizens exercising their right to free association and collective bargaining. When will our long national nightmare be over?
 
2014-03-20 09:41:08 AM
Meh..

www.modernette.ca
 
2014-03-20 09:41:08 AM
I'm much more interested in seeing these terrorist-y pictures, honestly...
 
2014-03-20 09:41:56 AM
Wendy's Chili


I've had it with these unions. I'm voting for Hitler.


There was so much snark in there, my sarcasm meter just hung itself.
 
2014-03-20 09:42:42 AM
Well obviously if the guard had been working for minimum wage, he would have been hungrier - for JUSTICE!
 
2014-03-20 09:42:43 AM
I've had it with these unions, ensuring safe working conditions, a 40 hour work week, workers rights, paid time off, etc! How DARE the unions work to ensure a prosperous middle class! The only people who should make money is CEOs and everyone else should be thankful they get minimum wage!
 
2014-03-20 09:44:26 AM
FTA:

spent two hours atop the world's tallest building

LOL, whut?

Would like a word:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burj_Khalifa

And the New York Post wonders why it's not more well-respected?
 
2014-03-20 09:45:49 AM

Arkanaut: Well obviously if the guard had been working for minimum wage, he would have been hungrier - for JUSTICE!


Minimum wage? What are you some kind of soshulist? Wages should be determined by an interaction of The Market and the desperation of the labor pool. Then the Job Creators could create jobs for thousands of guards.
 
2014-03-20 09:48:19 AM

C-Dilly: FTA:

spent two hours atop the world's tallest building

LOL, whut?

Would like a word:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burj_Khalifa

And the New York Post wonders why it's not more well-respected?


I doubt that the New York Post even knows the meaning of the word.
 
2014-03-20 09:48:43 AM
Unions were a mistake. It turns out the captains of industry all along wanted safe working conditions, payment in real currency, and Sundays off for their employees. Our bad.
 
2014-03-20 09:50:04 AM
Freedom Tower or French Tower?


i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-20 09:50:30 AM

SideshowSideswipe: I've had it with these unions, ensuring safe working conditions, a 40 hour work week, workers rights, paid time off, etc! How DARE the unions work to ensure a prosperous middle class! The only people who should make money is CEOs and everyone else should be thankful they get minimum wage!


Yes unions were needed in the Andrew Carnegie days but show me proof that unions are covering an area not served by any state/federal/local laws. The steel unions basically priced themselves out of business. You can't even carry your own equipment into the convention center here because a union guy has to do it. Gotta wonder what that glorified bellhop is paid.
 
2014-03-20 09:52:01 AM

generallyso: Freedom Tower or French Tower?


Stop that.
 
2014-03-20 09:53:11 AM
soooo.. no trespassing charges??
 
2014-03-20 09:54:42 AM

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Gulper Eel: 8/10, with a perfect score not achieved because of your failure to get the boot in on the one poor dumbass security guard who is losing his gig, because he wasn't part of a union that would have protected his right to fall asleep on the job.

Yet another Brave American victimized by citizens exercising their right to free association and collective bargaining. When will our long national nightmare be over?


I take it you also support the right of employers to mass-fire unionized workers - free association and all?
 
2014-03-20 09:55:00 AM

C-Dilly: FTA:

spent two hours atop the world's tallest building

LOL, whut?

Would like a word:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burj_Khalifa

And the New York Post wonders why it's not more well-respected?


FTA:
...slipped past four layers of WTC security and spent two hours atop the tallest building in the United States,

...After spending two glorious hours atop the nation's tallest buildings snapping photos

Ugh. How'd you miss that. Twice.
 
2014-03-20 09:56:51 AM

SideshowSideswipe: I've had it with these unions, ensuring safe working conditions (irrelevant talking points unrelated to the concept of basic competence)...


Except in this case, ensuring safe conditions was the one thing they completely failed at, at four separate levels.

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2014-03-20 09:56:53 AM

astouffer: SideshowSideswipe: I've had it with these unions, ensuring safe working conditions, a 40 hour work week, workers rights, paid time off, etc! How DARE the unions work to ensure a prosperous middle class! The only people who should make money is CEOs and everyone else should be thankful they get minimum wage!

Yes unions were needed in the Andrew Carnegie days but show me proof that unions are covering an area not served by any state/federal/local laws. The steel unions basically priced themselves out of business. You can't even carry your own equipment into the convention center here because a union guy has to do it. Gotta wonder what that glorified bellhop is paid.


Why should corporations be the only people with negotiating power?
 
2014-03-20 09:56:54 AM

Plamus: Monkeyhouse Zendo: Gulper Eel: 8/10, with a perfect score not achieved because of your failure to get the boot in on the one poor dumbass security guard who is losing his gig, because he wasn't part of a union that would have protected his right to fall asleep on the job.

Yet another Brave American victimized by citizens exercising their right to free association and collective bargaining. When will our long national nightmare be over?

I take it you also support the right of employers to mass-fire unionized workers - free association and all?


Sure. Except that the contract the employer signed with the union forbids that. What do you have against contract law?
 
2014-03-20 09:57:08 AM
Amateur.

www.decca.com
 
2014-03-20 09:57:57 AM
Photos of him hanging from the top?

Scrawny kid, massive nuts.
 
2014-03-20 09:58:03 AM

xanadian: I'm much more interested in seeing these terrorist-y pictures, honestly...


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-20 10:00:12 AM

astouffer: SideshowSideswipe: I've had it with these unions, ensuring safe working conditions, a 40 hour work week, workers rights, paid time off, etc! How DARE the unions work to ensure a prosperous middle class! The only people who should make money is CEOs and everyone else should be thankful they get minimum wage!

Yes unions were needed in the Andrew Carnegie days but show me proof that unions are covering an area not served by any state/federal/local laws. The steel unions basically priced themselves out of business. You can't even carry your own equipment into the convention center here because a union guy has to do it. Gotta wonder what that glorified bellhop is paid.


Ok. I see your point. But give me a non union shop with twentyfive employees. And believe me when I tell you, in six months I could have most of them tremblingly clutching to their reduced hourly rate, a few at each others' throats, and a few under my desk. No local laws could prevent me from mind games and subtle threats. A union would make me think twice about playing any such games.
 
2014-03-20 10:00:33 AM

Plamus: I take it you also support the right of employers to mass-fire unionized workers - free association and all?


They're called lay offs and they already happen but, yes, provided there's cause other than "is black" or "is catholic" or "is a union member".
 
2014-03-20 10:00:56 AM
takeaway: unions are worse than al qaeda.
 
2014-03-20 10:01:15 AM

C-Dilly: FTA:

spent two hours atop the world's tallest building

LOL, whut?

Would like a word:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burj_Khalifa

And the New York Post wonders why it's not more well-respected?


Nowhere in the entire article does it say that. It does refer to the tower as "the nation's tallest building" and the "world's biggest terror target", though.
 
2014-03-20 10:01:55 AM

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Arkanaut: Well obviously if the guard had been working for minimum wage, he would have been hungrier - for JUSTICE!

What are you some kind of soshulist? Wages should be determined by an interaction of The Market

®  and the desperation of the labor pool. Then the Job Creators could create jobs for thousands of guards.


FTFY
 
2014-03-20 10:05:18 AM

Savage Bacon: C-Dilly: FTA:

spent two hours atop the world's tallest building

LOL, whut?

Would like a word:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burj_Khalifa

And the New York Post wonders why it's not more well-respected?

Nowhere in the entire article does it say that. It does refer to the tower as "the nation's tallest building" and the "world's biggest terror target", though.


It has been changed. The original version claimed it as the world's tallest building. It was in the caption, IIRC.
 
2014-03-20 10:06:14 AM
You can't criticize unions subby, or they will smother you with American flags and patriotism - as soon as they're off break.
 
2014-03-20 10:13:42 AM
The headline is ok if (and only if) every time there's a  foul up that doesn't involve unions that it's mentioned in the headline.
 
2014-03-20 10:16:30 AM

Gecko Gingrich: Savage Bacon: C-Dilly: FTA:

spent two hours atop the world's tallest building

LOL, whut?

Would like a word:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burj_Khalifa

And the New York Post wonders why it's not more well-respected?

Nowhere in the entire article does it say that. It does refer to the tower as "the nation's tallest building" and the "world's biggest terror target", though.

It has been changed. The original version claimed it as the world's tallest building. It was in the caption, IIRC.


As for the nation's tallest, that is still up for debate. If measure architectural height, the Sears Tower(IDC about its current name)beats the F Tower easily. It's only that vain spire on top of the F Tower that may bring it the title depending on the group that makes these determinations.
 
2014-03-20 10:16:44 AM

astouffer: Yes unions were needed in the Andrew Carnegie days but show me proof that unions are covering an area not served by any state/federal/local laws. The steel unions basically priced themselves out of business. You can't even carry your own equipment into the convention center here because a union guy has to do it. Gotta wonder what that glorified bellhop is paid.


Outraged at the prices the convention center charges us to do this stuff, we did it ourselves once. Never again. Those guys earn their pay.
 
2014-03-20 10:16:49 AM

Marshmallow Jones: You can't criticize unions subby, or they will smother you with American flags and patriotism - as soon as they're off break.


Remember, citizens, Real Americans work long hours, tirelessly, and for what the Job Creators deem is a good wage unilke those lazy and inefficient Germans with their unions, scheduled breaks, and long vacations. So stand up for America, citizens, and work that sixty hour week! The Job Creators need you!
 
2014-03-20 10:19:29 AM

Monkeyhouse Zendo: So stand up for America, citizens


No wait, sit back down.  That technically counted as a break and we're taking it out of your pay!
 
2014-03-20 10:21:33 AM

Zasteva: Outraged at the prices the convention center charges us to do this stuff, we did it ourselves once. Never again. Those guys earn their pay.


Yeah, but they probably took a break in there somewhere and were paid a decent wage so... I don't know, I can't follow the reasoning. I guess that makes them bad. Maybe it's something about low wage, untrained labor doing it better by working an hour less than full time each week with mandatory, off the clock, overtime and no breaks.
 
2014-03-20 10:30:14 AM

Gulper Eel: 8/10, with a perfect score not achieved because of your failure to get the boot in on the one poor dumbass security guard who is losing his gig, because he wasn't part of a union that would have protected his right to fall asleep on the job.


This isn't fair. I can't say if his imaginary union would protect him or not, but he was inarguably not doing his job. In the elevator operator's case, I'd say his union prevented his employers from appending "security" to his job description after the fact.
 
2014-03-20 10:34:22 AM

Gecko Gingrich: Savage Bacon: C-Dilly: FTA:

spent two hours atop the world's tallest building

LOL, whut?

Would like a word:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burj_Khalifa

And the New York Post wonders why it's not more well-respected?

Nowhere in the entire article does it say that. It does refer to the tower as "the nation's tallest building" and the "world's biggest terror target", though.

It has been changed. The original version claimed it as the world's tallest building. It was in the caption, IIRC.



Yeah, I guess they do have proofreaders after all. It was in the caption of the first photo, and has now been corrected.
 
2014-03-20 10:40:32 AM

Plamus: Monkeyhouse Zendo: Gulper Eel: 8/10, with a perfect score not achieved because of your failure to get the boot in on the one poor dumbass security guard who is losing his gig, because he wasn't part of a union that would have protected his right to fall asleep on the job.

Yet another Brave American victimized by citizens exercising their right to free association and collective bargaining. When will our long national nightmare be over?

I take it you also support the right of employers to mass-fire unionized workers - free association and all?


As long as it was a right they reserved in the contract that they negotiated with the union.  Sure.

But you clearly have no idea what the fark you're talking about, so ignore me, I guess.
 
2014-03-20 10:42:39 AM

Gulper Eel: in this case, ensuring safe conditions was the one thing they completely failed at, at four separate levels.


The union's duty is to ensure safe conditions for members of the labor force, not for trespassers.

But you already knew that.
 
2014-03-20 10:45:15 AM
Can I blame police for crimes committed in their jurisdiction?  I'm having a hard time of which unionized workforces are and are not responsible for the safety and well being of citizens who break the damned law.
 
2014-03-20 10:45:31 AM
Isn't security something about threats or thefts and such?  Biggest issue with this kid was him maybe getting himself killed, nothing else.

Big yawn.
 
2014-03-20 10:46:10 AM

astouffer: SideshowSideswipe: I've had it with these unions, ensuring safe working conditions, a 40 hour work week, workers rights, paid time off, etc! How DARE the unions work to ensure a prosperous middle class! The only people who should make money is CEOs and everyone else should be thankful they get minimum wage!

Yes unions were needed in the Andrew Carnegie days but show me proof that unions are covering an area not served by any state/federal/local laws. The steel unions basically priced themselves out of business. You can't even carry your own equipment into the convention center here because a union guy has to do it. Gotta wonder what that glorified bellhop is paid.


No, unions are necessary unfortunately.  I think less so with the prevalence of social media and the ability to build a PR campaign that would kill unsafe working conditions.  But those laws would get repealed pretty quickly in the absence of unions and I'm sure plenty of shady sh*t would be done.

Also unfortunately, we have unions that take too much and turn into farces of themselves.  For example, the ILA (International Longshoreman's Association).  The ILA responded to complaints that employees weren't working by creating a union position to supervise the employees, rather than allowing a management company manage the employees.  There is a guy working on every terminal in every almost every port in the United States literally sitting in a car checking boxes.

Also, they are given maintenance jobs that should be under the control of DOT simply because equipment must meet their standard to leave the terminal.

BTW, the head of the ILA rides around NYC in a Bentley Limo owned by the union and rides in the union's private jet.  BTW, virtually every meeting this man has is in a major port city.  As in, also home to a major airport hub which means flights every three or four hours between destinations MAX.
 
2014-03-20 10:46:32 AM

BeesNuts: Can I blame police for crimes committed in their jurisdiction?  I'm having a hard time of which unionized workforces are and are not responsible for the safety and well being of citizens who break the damned law.


Just when it's convenient for the Post's narrative.
 
2014-03-20 10:49:20 AM
So one idiot lets the kid go up the elevator = unions bad? Okay, thanks for the memo.
 
2014-03-20 10:52:35 AM

mike_d85: Also unfortunately, we have unions that take too much and turn into farces of themselves. For example, the ILA (International Longshoreman's Association).


What are you going to do, though?  The globalization of manufacturing has made their work essential for the economy, and that gives them more bargaining power.

If you had the leverage they do, you'd be taking advantage of it too.
 
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