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2014-03-19 09:42:01 PM
zzzzzzz
 
2014-03-19 09:44:23 PM
Daim bramage?
 
2014-03-19 09:51:19 PM
This a lot explains me for.
 
2014-03-19 09:55:40 PM
Wow,
One simple explanation for Yoda about his strange speech patterns and all those 'visions'.
 
2014-03-19 09:58:33 PM
Dammit I totally read that the "correct" wrong way. =(
 
2014-03-19 10:09:26 PM
Damage is done, keep working.
 
2014-03-19 10:10:19 PM
Accidentally?
 
2014-03-19 10:11:15 PM

Rustico: Accidentally?


The whole thing.
 
2014-03-19 10:15:46 PM
Sleep... Those little slices of death... How I loathe it...
-Edgar A. Poe

Welp.... I'm screwed.
 
2014-03-19 10:17:50 PM
Anyone else here get up at 3am? Or is that just me?
 
2014-03-19 10:19:15 PM

Destructor: Anyone else here get up at 3am? Or is that just me?


Tiny Hoodie insists on it.
 
2014-03-19 10:26:05 PM

Robin Hoodie: Destructor: Anyone else here get up at 3am? Or is that just me?

Tiny Hoodie insists on it.


I like it. No one is around or on the roads. I own the world.
 
2014-03-19 10:37:58 PM

Destructor: Robin Hoodie: Destructor: Anyone else here get up at 3am? Or is that just me?

Tiny Hoodie insists on it.

I like it. No one is around or on the roads. I own the world.


It's the only way to drive man. Doubly so if you have to escape urban areas or pass through long tracks of farmland. Mountains are about the only terrain that I don't try to pass through in the dark. What is this thread about again?
 
2014-03-19 10:44:34 PM
Comments: "Sleep! what's that! As a Fibromyalgia suffer 3 hours a night for the last 25 years, does it affect you! Yep. your brain foggy most of the day"

Yep. your brain foggy.
 
2014-03-19 10:45:50 PM

Robin Hoodie: Destructor: Robin Hoodie: Destructor: Anyone else here get up at 3am? Or is that just me?

Tiny Hoodie insists on it.

I like it. No one is around or on the roads. I own the world.

It's the only way to drive man. Doubly so if you have to escape urban areas or pass through long tracks of farmland. Mountains are about the only terrain that I don't try to pass through in the dark. What is this thread about again?


I like doing mountain passes at night since you can see the headlights of cars coming the other way on the corners and you cannot see the bottom.
 
2014-03-19 10:45:55 PM
I thought that said sheep deprivation
Maybe it did say sheep, I better check
Wait here
 
2014-03-19 10:57:16 PM
If 4-5 hrs a night can result in dead brain cells, I am farked.
 
2014-03-19 10:59:51 PM
Part of the reason meth heads get all nutty.
 
2014-03-19 11:14:11 PM
Before my CPAP I'd forget stuff and it seemed harder to think (along with the whole tired-all-the-time and blowing out my heart with adreniline thing). So I can see how sleep deprevation could short circuit your brain.
 
2014-03-19 11:29:54 PM

boogerwolf: Before my CPAP I'd forget stuff and it seemed harder to think (along with the whole tired-all-the-time and blowing out my heart with adreniline thing). So I can see how sleep deprevation could short circuit your brain.


Same here. I'd do brilliant work on whatever was in front of me but then exhibit signs of alzheimers, or be like that dude in Memento.

Use an auto-bipap now, so much better than a cpap.
 
2014-03-19 11:59:36 PM

Smackledorfer: If 4-5 hrs a night can result in dead brain cells, I am farked.


I've been doing that for a few years now and I'd believe my brain is a little farked up by it.
 
zez
2014-03-20 12:50:55 AM
I think that in theory a CPAP or whatever could help me sleep better, but there isn't any way I could go to sleep with all that shiat on my face and hoses everywhere.
 
2014-03-20 01:00:37 AM
As someone who should be asleep right now, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2014-03-20 01:22:46 AM

zez: I think that in theory a CPAP or whatever could help me sleep better, but there isn't any way I could go to sleep with all that shiat on my face and hoses everywhere.


My dad said the same thing. He died a year and a half later in his sleep from a massive heart attack at the age of 47.
Your choice.

/get that sleep apnea treated people
 
2014-03-20 01:36:04 AM
Wow, I think I better go to bed soon.
 
2014-03-20 01:55:25 AM
I'm boned.
 
2014-03-20 02:17:29 AM
Robin Hoodie:Mountains are about the only terrain that I don't try to pass through in the dark.

Amen to that. Once upon a time, not all that long ago, I was going to visit my family. Well, they were some five hours away, and the fastest way there was through the mountains. (US 50 and all that.)  I couldn't sleep the night before I set out, so I just said the hell with it and started driving at two in the morning. Between the winding roads (which I've come to know well), the wildlife skittering about in the pre-dawn hours, the icy conditions (this was in the early spring, after all), and whatnot, I've pretty much sworn off nighttime interstate travel, regardless of elevation. 

That, and travelling through Colorado (and, for that matter, Utah) is so much more rewarding during the day. There's just too much beauty to take in.

/Worst time I've ever had was when I was travelling between Denver and Ft. Collins
//Wind damn near scooped my little Pontiac up off the road
 
2014-03-20 05:55:48 AM

Destructor: I like it. No one is around or on the roads. I own the world.


Speak for yourself.  I'd prefer it that way, but instead I get stuck behind traffic around here at 5:30 AM.  Of course nothing is open after 8PM, restaurants don't open 'til 11AM, but people are already up and about and clogging the streets at 4AM.

There is something seriously wrong with New Englanders.
 
2014-03-20 06:05:09 AM
I'm up at 3:30 with a crying baby... again... so I'm really ketting a gick out of desa com wuz mrph uhhhh...
 
2014-03-20 06:41:08 AM

Son of Thunder: I'm up at 3:30 with a crying baby... again... so I'm really ketting a gick out of desa com wuz mrph uhhhh...


It only gets worse. Just wait until they date or drive. After that you've hue be Shuswap Nakisha haiaiycveha a six w d


/used to wear ear plugs while feeding our daughter at night
//she was born with some loud lungs!
 
2014-03-20 07:17:54 AM
Every single human study has always shown that while the effects of sleep deprivation can be severe (and fatal in cases of FFI) once you sleep...you're fine. Guy who stayed up 11 days straight? Fine after 10 hours of sleep. No one suggests that chronically being sleep deprived is good for you in any way, but it's not farking up your brain in the ways this article suggests via mice.

/knows about this shiat because I find prion disease fascinating
//recommends 'The Family That Couldn't Sleep' to anyone who finds it also interesting. It's about genetic Fatal Familial Insomnia, caused by prion malformation.
 
2014-03-20 07:28:25 AM
Sleep deprivation definitely alters brain chemistry - and not in a good way. For some folks, the chemical changes can trigger bipolar-esque and schizophrenic-esque symptoms. Doctors generally won't recognize sleep deprivation and recommend sleep, especially if you're seeing the doctor because of erratic and manic behavior. Instead they'll prescribe lithium and anti-depressants. It's barbaric.
 
2014-03-20 07:53:04 AM
Lots of us cyborgs around here, I see... got my CPAP last year and the only thing I have against it is that I really notice sleeping without it now (never had a headache from lack of oxygen before... guess I do get used to good things). Aside from that, being a huge Star Wars fan, I got a kick out of the whole Darth Vader setup, and just laugh my ass off even now; the novelty of being slowly machinized doesn't wear off for me (I do have a close friend who's totally freaked out by it, but her culture does have a marked anti-machine, anti-manmade bias). For the rest: get that thing treated, people. That O2 is the shiat, yo. Being able to think in the morning is worth any number of hoses.
 
2014-03-20 08:32:24 AM
May I move my dog face to the banana patch?
 
2014-03-20 08:53:53 AM
I want a burrow owl.
 
2014-03-20 09:55:31 AM

MJMaloney187: Sleep deprivation definitely alters brain chemistry - and not in a good way. For some folks, the chemical changes can trigger bipolar-esque and schizophrenic-esque symptoms. Doctors generally won't recognize sleep deprivation and recommend sleep, especially if you're seeing the doctor because of erratic and manic behavior. Instead they'll prescribe lithium and anti-depressants. It's barbaric.


My Dad had an diagnosed Sleep Apnea for years, when he finally got tested he had one of the worst cases in the US at the time (This was the late 90's).

I don't think his brain ever fully recovered from that, he still has some bipolar-esque behavior. Granted the doctors estimated that he had only been getting about an hour of sleep a night for years.
 
2014-03-20 11:38:40 AM

MJMaloney187: Sleep deprivation definitely alters brain chemistry - and not in a good way. For some folks, the chemical changes can trigger bipolar-esque and schizophrenic-esque symptoms. Doctors generally won't recognize sleep deprivation and recommend sleep, especially if you're seeing the doctor because of erratic and manic behavior. Instead they'll prescribe lithium and anti-depressants. It's barbaric.


Both of my abnormal psych profs (who both also had practices) said general practice is to first address physical issues, both sleep and exercise as well as a full physical workup, before jumping the gun and going crazy with drugs.
 
2014-03-20 01:26:54 PM

Smackledorfer: MJMaloney187: Sleep deprivation definitely alters brain chemistry - and not in a good way. For some folks, the chemical changes can trigger bipolar-esque and schizophrenic-esque symptoms. Doctors generally won't recognize sleep deprivation and recommend sleep, especially if you're seeing the doctor because of erratic and manic behavior. Instead they'll prescribe lithium and anti-depressants. It's barbaric.

Both of my abnormal psych profs (who both also had practices) said general practice is to first address physical issues, both sleep and exercise as well as a full physical workup, before jumping the gun and going crazy with drugs.


That's what the psych professionals do in the industry, the main problem is with GPs who don't give a shiat and/or clients who don't have insurance that'll pay for a psych treatment (Obamacare is slowly changing this, but it's still has a long way to go).
 
2014-03-20 03:14:27 PM

shortymac: Smackledorfer: MJMaloney187: Sleep deprivation definitely alters brain chemistry - and not in a good way. For some folks, the chemical changes can trigger bipolar-esque and schizophrenic-esque symptoms. Doctors generally won't recognize sleep deprivation and recommend sleep, especially if you're seeing the doctor because of erratic and manic behavior. Instead they'll prescribe lithium and anti-depressants. It's barbaric.

Both of my abnormal psych profs (who both also had practices) said general practice is to first address physical issues, both sleep and exercise as well as a full physical workup, before jumping the gun and going crazy with drugs.

That's what the psych professionals do in the industry, the main problem is with GPs who don't give a shiat and/or clients who don't have insurance that'll pay for a psych treatment (Obamacare is slowly changing this, but it's still has a long way to go).


Gps shouldn't be able to do anything other than referrals on psych matters imo.
 
2014-03-20 08:51:40 PM
Great. Haven't had a single day not feeling exhausted in 7 years straight now. APAP helps a tiny bit. Post getting glandular fever (mono) twice... Sleep doctors now are worse then those ulcer specialists before it was understood bacteria was the cause... Whole lot of exorbitant charging of patients based on 'expertise' that really has no proper scientific basis behind it yet.
 
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