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(WAVY Virginia)   Sixth grader takes razor from classmate who is cutting himself, throws it away, then convinces him it's wrong and is...c) suspended for 10 days and facing expulsion   (wavy.com) divider line 128
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2014-03-19 08:07:21 PM
WHAT PART OF ZERO TOLERANCE DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND!
 
2014-03-19 08:21:48 PM
The Harris family hopes after the hearing, where everything is explained again, that Adrionna will be allowed back to class on Friday or at the latest Monday.

Wait, isn't it spring break?
 
2014-03-19 08:46:09 PM
That is downright ridiculous. I'd be pissing bullets mad if that were my child. Suspension with possible expulsion? You farkheads! It is past time to remove the "administration" part of education. Cut the head off and let actual education happen.
 
2014-03-19 08:54:23 PM

fusillade762: The Harris family hopes after the hearing, where everything is explained again, that Adrionna will be allowed back to class on Friday or at the latest Monday.

Publicity is a wonderful thing in these circumstances.

Spread the story wider and wider until they give in and let her back.
 
2014-03-19 09:08:01 PM
well thats rediculous. the worst part is they knew it was such bullshiat they wouldn't even return calls until reporters got involved
 
2014-03-19 09:09:10 PM
Bossy sixth grader, doing the work of the part-time shared with three other schools guidance counselor. if more of the children would just jump in and do more work - - more savings ! = smaller government !

/probably
//probably sarcasm
///hard to tell mostly
 
2014-03-19 09:44:25 PM
And that child has learned a valuable lesson... don't do what's right, do nothing, otherwise you'll just wind up being farked over by an inflexible system created by morons.
 
2014-03-19 09:44:59 PM
The people running our public schools want authority but eschew judgment and discretion. They like power, but loathe accountability. They are nothing more than functionaries, mindlessly applying rules intended to get uniform, predictable results in all situations. Are schools are not controlled by thinking people, but by reems of paper that tell them what to do. Part of this is an outgrowth of fear of lawsuits, and not wholly unjustified, but it's easier for them to get ridiculously over zealous for the most minor of transgressions than to try to justify exercising their own judgment. They'd rather wrongfully punish children than stand behind their decisions and that is cowardice.
 
2014-03-19 09:49:39 PM
Let this be a lesson kids not to snitch on....well yourself. Good life lesson. Never go up to your boss and tell him you jacked off into his coffee either. Just do it and leave.
 
2014-03-19 10:05:45 PM
More like Zero Intelligence...
 
2014-03-19 10:12:48 PM

Nabb1: The people running our public schools want authority but eschew judgment and discretion.


deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com

"No one would like to celebrate your love more than I, but I'm a public servant, and not permitted to use my own judgement in any way."
 
2014-03-19 10:18:21 PM
Oh, for f*cks sake...
 
2014-03-19 10:44:06 PM

FirstNationalBastard: And that child has learned a valuable lesson... don't do what's right, do nothing, otherwise you'll just wind up being farked over by an inflexible system created by morons.


Pretty-much THIS.  I am SO glad I don't have kids.  I can't afford to home-school.
 
2014-03-19 10:50:54 PM
shoulda cutta biatch
 
2014-03-19 11:09:11 PM
huge failure on the school for not teaching her to mind her own f*cking business.
 
2014-03-19 11:15:16 PM
///slashies
 
2014-03-20 12:09:28 AM
Parents should tell their kid to enjoy his ten days off, and perhaps look into transferring to a school that has a brain between their entire staff.
 
2014-03-20 12:12:12 AM
As usual, zero tolerance policies are enacted by people with zero intelligence.
 
2014-03-20 12:13:24 AM

studebaker hoch: Parents should tell their kid to enjoy his ten days off, and perhaps look into transferring to a school that has a brain between their entire staff.


It's the Tidewater area of Virginia. Good luck with that.
 
2014-03-20 12:14:41 AM
1) Fire the responsible decision maker immediately.

2) Permanently revoke all of his or her credentials and licenses required for employment in education.
 
2014-03-20 12:14:58 AM

fusillade762: Nabb1: The people running our public schools want authority but eschew judgment and discretion.

[deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com image 512x384]

"No one would like to celebrate your love more than I, but I'm a public servant, and not permitted to use my own judgement in any way."


You gotta help me! I don't know what to do! I can't make decisions! I'm a Principal!
 
2014-03-20 12:15:26 AM
"Suspension hearing"

What the balls.

Destroy that school system, bar all administrators from being involved in education for all of time, and start again from the ground up.

Their response to receiving negative media attention was to move a "suspension hearing" up by a few days? What a completely useless school system. A hearing? Just have a meeting at the goddamn school between someone who isn't full of shiat and the family.

Fresh out of people who aren't full of shiat? Start firing people.
 
2014-03-20 12:15:31 AM
Never help anyone.

You WILL be punished for it.
 
2014-03-20 12:16:19 AM
Sad and yet not entirely surprising that the reactionary adherence to the word of policy is eclipsing an act of caring. Punished for attending to an injured classmate and daring to leave a weapon unattended? And daring to tell the truth about it? OMG WHAT PLANET ARE YOU FROM BODYSNATCHER WHARRGARBL

Still really reassuring to see a kid who understands compassion and altruism.
 
2014-03-20 12:16:59 AM

Nabb1: The people running our public schools want authority but eschew judgment and discretion. They like power, but loathe accountability. They are nothing more than functionaries, mindlessly applying rules intended to get uniform, predictable results in all situations. Are schools are not controlled by thinking people, but by reems of paper that tell them what to do. Part of this is an outgrowth of fear of lawsuits, and not wholly unjustified, but it's easier for them to get ridiculously over zealous for the most minor of transgressions than to try to justify exercising their own judgment. They'd rather wrongfully punish children than stand behind their decisions and that is cowardice.


Are schools certainly are.
 
2014-03-20 12:17:49 AM
I find it interesting that the principal or other authority remains absent. "The school" is the player here. Excellent.
 
2014-03-20 12:18:17 AM
I understand why a thing like zero-tolerance happened.  It's the same reason why judicial "mandatory sentencing" happened.

It was noted that anyone brown was getting far harsher treatment than whites for the same infractions.  Yet with all these rules, that is still the case in both schools and in the judicial system.

Maybe it's time to recognize that these attempts to solve the problem aren't working?
 
2014-03-20 12:19:07 AM
What the fark is wrong with kids today. The only time I ever cut myself with a razorblade as a kid was when I carved SLAYER into my forearm. Kids these days. NSFW?
 
2014-03-20 12:20:08 AM
Normally I try to be reasonable and see both sides, try to understand the school officials' position, etc.

Their actions in this case are completely without defense. Shame on all of them.

/You're inspiring, Onna
 
2014-03-20 12:20:20 AM
Wow.  I pretty much think school administrators are some of the stupidest and most asinine people on earth, but this is stupid and asinine even for them.
 
2014-03-20 12:21:28 AM

Nabb1: They like power, but loathe accountability... Part of this is an outgrowth of fear of lawsuits, and not wholly unjustified, but it's easier for them to get ridiculously over zealous for the most minor of transgressions than to try to justify exercising their own judgment.


Lawsuits being, of course, one of the few mechanisms individuals have to hold school officials (and corporations, their officers, and other government officials) accountable.

But you're going to have to explain how the school thought this idiotic decision was going to avoid a lawsuit. Because from where I stand, it looks much more likely to incite a lawsuit than to avoid one. This decision was not prompted in any way by fear of lawsuits.
 
2014-03-20 12:22:54 AM
Public school, I assume?  These kind of stupid stories always come from government-run schools
 
2014-03-20 12:23:20 AM
This honestly doesn't make any sense to me. I could understand them suspending the cutter for bringing it to school. But why the girl who took it from him?

Anyway, if this stands, I hope the family hires the biggest, nastiest, attack dog of an attorney they can find to sue the hell out of the school system.
 
2014-03-20 12:23:22 AM
Another example of godammned useless empty-headed petty despots who think they are little gods of skools.  In nice language, "administrators."  But they are contemptible and despicable, you have to give them that.  No matter what the "policy" states, they can use discretion --if they want to--.  Just like a traffic cop who could legitimately write a ticket for speeding, and judges the totality of the event and driver involved to just issue a warning instead.

/yes, it's a broad brush...
 
2014-03-20 12:28:13 AM
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I wish my lawn was emo.
 
2014-03-20 12:31:22 AM

Baz744: 1) Fire the responsible decision maker immediately.

2) Permanently revoke all of his or her credentials and licenses required for employment in education.


3) Cockpunch said decision maker until fatigued, then transition to hard kicks.
 
2014-03-20 12:32:22 AM

Old enough to know better: This honestly doesn't make any sense to me. I could understand them suspending the cutter for bringing it to school. But why the girl who took it from him?

Anyway, if this stands, I hope the family hires the biggest, nastiest, attack dog of an attorney they can find to sue the hell out of the school system.


They don't want students putting themselves at risk of being harmed by other children who bring weapons to school. It's a sensible policy to instruct kids that the proper response to a student carrying a weapon at school is to inform an authority figure, not try to resolve the situation yourself.

I would even agree with a moderate punishment here, adjusted for extenuating circumstances. A day or two suspension, with no threat of expulsion or even the hint of one, would be more than adequate to vindicate the school's legitimate interest in promoting safe handling of dangerous situations among their students.

The problem here isn't that the student was disciplined--though I know many will disagree, because they're not looking at the bigger picture--it's the excessive nature of the discipline.
 
2014-03-20 12:32:28 AM

Baz744: 1) Fire the responsible decision maker immediately.

2) Permanently revoke all of his or her credentials and licenses required for employment in education.


Nah, take the razor blade, apply to their throat.
 
2014-03-20 12:34:19 AM
Let me guess, this entire article is based on the word of a sixth grader.
 
2014-03-20 12:34:54 AM

Loren: Baz744: 1) Fire the responsible decision maker immediately.

2) Permanently revoke all of his or her credentials and licenses required for employment in education.

Nah, take the razor blade, apply to their throat.


Now see, that's just excessive. Clutch2013's suggestion above looks about right though.
 
2014-03-20 12:36:59 AM
I love how no one from the school called back the parents; yet after the TV station called the parents got a call back!  With a new hearing date!

But that still does not change the universal truth that there is no more useless, assinine, mean-spirited person in a kid's life than a public school administrator.  Bunch of overpaid, empty-headed wannabe despots
 
2014-03-20 12:39:20 AM
I have been surprised for years and years there isn't some public interest law group, aclu like, fighting zero tolerance. What the fark is wrong with lawyers?
 
2014-03-20 12:39:36 AM
The word of a sixth grader and very little else. We're back to the times of the Salem witch trials, people. Very few of you ever read an article critically or even bother to ask who the source for the article is.

I'm sure there's more to this story. But hey don't let me get in the way of your angry pitchfork crowd.

/Idiocracy
 
2014-03-20 12:41:40 AM

Cerebral Ballsy: The word of a sixth grader and very little else. We're back to the times of the Salem witch trials, people. Very few of you ever read an article critically or even bother to ask who the source for the article is.


Assuming the portion about the fact that the school board not returning the parents' calls is true, that alone is enough to condemn the board to the pits of worse-than-useless.
 
2014-03-20 12:44:32 AM
FTFA: We teach kids that honesty is the best policy, but at one Virginia Beach middle school it might be better to keep the truth to yourself.

Bahahahaha. When has having ANY honest interaction with school administration ever worked out in favor of anyone? I'm sure that somewhere someone has run a competent, even-handed, caring school... but nearly all seem to be tinpot dictators intent on punishing anyone who interrupts their attempts to insulate themselves from the rest of the system and get the hot secretary under their desk. The only way to survive is lying your ass off more than the next person, and flattery often helps.

That goes for teachers, too. They get farked over just as much and don't have any higher opinion of administration than kids, but their careers are more fragile than their charges'.
 
2014-03-20 12:45:10 AM

evaned: Cerebral Ballsy: The word of a sixth grader and very little else. We're back to the times of the Salem witch trials, people. Very few of you ever read an article critically or even bother to ask who the source for the article is.

Assuming the portion about the fact that the school board not returning the parents' calls is true, that alone is enough to condemn the board to the pits of worse-than-useless.


I wouldn't assume a teenager chews gum just because their "not my child" momma called the news and reported it.
 
2014-03-20 12:45:20 AM
No good deed goes unpunished
 
2014-03-20 12:46:34 AM
"Zero tolerance!"

"Of what?"

"Things that are bad!"

"Like what?"

"WHATEVER WE SAY IT IS!"

"Isn't that fascism?"

"SUSPENSION!"
 
2014-03-20 12:48:10 AM
I like the non-cut of her jib.
 
2014-03-20 12:52:00 AM

Baz744: Old enough to know better: This honestly doesn't make any sense to me. I could understand them suspending the cutter for bringing it to school. But why the girl who took it from him?

Anyway, if this stands, I hope the family hires the biggest, nastiest, attack dog of an attorney they can find to sue the hell out of the school system.

They don't want students putting themselves at risk of being harmed by other children who bring weapons to school. It's a sensible policy to instruct kids that the proper response to a student carrying a weapon at school is to inform an authority figure, not try to resolve the situation yourself.

I would even agree with a moderate punishment here, adjusted for extenuating circumstances. A day or two suspension, with no threat of expulsion or even the hint of one, would be more than adequate to vindicate the school's legitimate interest in promoting safe handling of dangerous situations among their students.

The problem here isn't that the student was disciplined--though I know many will disagree, because they're not looking at the bigger picture--it's the excessive nature of the discipline.


If you think any punishment is warranted, you're as much of an imbecile as the administrators who made this asinine decision.
 
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