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(ESPN)   For all you golfers out there, be careful with titanium clubs. They may set the course on fire   (espn.go.com) divider line 70
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2014-03-19 08:13:46 PM
That must be what Hollywood bullets are made out of.
 
2014-03-19 08:49:49 PM
Check me if I'm wrong Sandy, but if I kill all the golfers, they're gonna lock me up and throw away the key...
 
2014-03-19 08:49:59 PM

fusillade762: That must be what Hollywood bullets are made out of.


Golf clubs?
 
2014-03-19 08:50:56 PM
Man, you're really smokin' that course today, Phil!
 
2014-03-19 08:52:11 PM
I was just grinding some stainless steel, which TFA says is the normal club material, and it didn't make many sparks.
 
2014-03-19 08:52:40 PM
This has been known by golfers for about 15 years at least.
 
2014-03-19 08:54:27 PM
Also don't lose your temper and smash one over a bench. There was a guy here years ago who did just that. It broke and the jagged edge bounced back, hit him in the heart, and killed him right there on the sixth hole.
 
2014-03-19 08:56:15 PM
Only applies to duffers in desert areas.
 
2014-03-19 08:56:24 PM
I'd watch fire golfing.
 
2014-03-19 08:56:25 PM

Billy Bathsalt: I was just grinding some stainless steel, which TFA says is the normal club material, and it didn't make many sparks.


Titanium alloys+rocks=3,000 degree F sparks that start forest and grass fires, it seems that straight stainless steel doesn't create sparks at the same temperatures that titanium alloys do.
 
2014-03-19 08:57:28 PM
I'll be happy when they set golfers on fire.
 
2014-03-19 08:58:47 PM

Billy Bathsalt: I was just grinding some stainless steel, which TFA says is the normal club material, and it didn't make many sparks.


Steel isn't the culprit.  It's titanium.  Most of the titanium golf clubs are drivers and fairway woods.  Some irons have titanium face inserts, and fairway woods can have entire face plates made of the material.  It varies.   I don't know that I've ever seen an iron spark, but drivers can spark pretty easily on a rock (you suck if you hit a rock with your driver) or if you hit a tee just right.

A possible scenario is some golfer used a titanium faced fairway wood from a crappy lie where he probably should've taken a drop or just wedged out.  A more likely scenario is some drunk jackhole just tossed his cigarette or cigar butt in the weeds because golf carts don't have ashtrays.
 
2014-03-19 09:00:38 PM
Scientists painstakingly re-created in the lab the course conditions on the days of the fires. Using high-speed cameras and electron microscopes, they found that if hit upon a rock, clubs containing titanium can produce sparks of up to 3,000 degrees that will burn for more than a second, said James Earthman, a chemical engineering and materials science professor and an author of the study.

WTF did they need electron microscopes for? And how are they determining what the titanium would do under one when they have to completely coat it with gold to see it in the EM?
 
2014-03-19 09:01:05 PM

namegoeshere: Also don't lose your temper and smash one over a bench. There was a guy here years ago who did just that. It broke and the jagged edge bounced back, hit him in the heart, and killed him right there on the sixth hole.


I'll be damned, Snopes says that's exactly what happened. They say the game is designed to break your heart.
 
2014-03-19 09:01:11 PM
It's not the titanium golf clubs that start the fires.

It's the flint stones.

Flintstones, meet the Flintstones,
They're a page right out of history
Flintstones, they're the Flintstones
No
w you're in for some great misery
Cause you've got this tune stuck in your head
Fortunately, I can rhyme that word with Fred.
Flintstones, meet the Flintstones.
Making fire since our prehistory!
 
2014-03-19 09:01:23 PM

Billy Bathsalt: I was just grinding some stainless steel, which TFA says is the normal club material, and it didn't make many sparks.


Have titanium driver and insert irons. At late dusk the driver makes awesome sparks. Never seen them on the irons though.
 
2014-03-19 09:02:03 PM
animusempire.com

The same thing can happen with your golf shoes if you're not careful
 
2014-03-19 09:02:08 PM
Aren't those campsite/emergency fire striker doodads made of a titanium and/or magnesium alloy?
 
2014-03-19 09:02:17 PM
www.popsci.com

http://www.popsci.com/diy/article/2007-12/titanium-or-plain-ol-steel

I've known the difference for years, but I do have a degree in mechanical engineering.
 
2014-03-19 09:03:20 PM
Using high-speed cameras and electron microscopes, they found that if hit upon a rock, clubs containing titanium can produce sparks of up to 3,000 degrees that will burn for more than a second, said James Earthman, a chemical engineering and materials science professor and an author of the study.

Kick-ass name for a Chemical Engineer and Materials Scientist.
 
2014-03-19 09:03:44 PM
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Oh golly, I'm hot today.
 
2014-03-19 09:03:57 PM
FTA :

Concialdi said the Fire Authority is giving golfers using titanium clubs permission to break the rules and "improve their lie" -- that is, to move their ball away from rocks and dry vegetation.


No thanks.  A little environmental impact is a small price to pay for me to be able to play the right way.

It is a gentleman's game, after all.
 
2014-03-19 09:07:41 PM
Play with titanium.  Don't hit the ground.  I know they're watching.   They're watching.  All the commotion.  The kiddie like play.  It has the course burning.  Burning.  You-oooooooo.  Your club can spark fires.
 
2014-03-19 09:08:11 PM
Cave men knew that bashing certain rocks together creates sparks that can start fires.
 
2014-03-19 09:09:23 PM
The course, the course, the course is on fire. We don't need no water let the motherfarking golfers burn. Burn motherfarkers, burn!
 
2014-03-19 09:09:40 PM

balisane: Aren't those campsite/emergency fire striker doodads made of a titanium and/or magnesium alloy?


Nope. Iron Cerium alloys.
 
2014-03-19 09:12:23 PM

TomD9938: FTA :

Concialdi said the Fire Authority is giving golfers using titanium clubs permission to break the rules and "improve their lie" -- that is, to move their ball away from rocks and dry vegetation.


No thanks.  A little environmental impact is a small price to pay for me to be able to play the right way.

It is a gentleman's game, after all.


Winter rules!!!
 
2014-03-19 09:13:28 PM

Russ1642: balisane: Aren't those campsite/emergency fire striker doodads made of a titanium and/or magnesium alloy?

Nope. Iron Cerium alloys.


Iron Cerium sounds like a body builder.
 
2014-03-19 09:15:12 PM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: The same thing can happen with your golf shoes if you're not careful


Gotta avoid that wax buildup
 
2014-03-19 09:17:24 PM
I've never met a golfer that didn't have a built-in fire extinguisher that wasn't fully charged, so to speak, by the third tee.
 
2014-03-19 09:18:21 PM

LoneVVolf: Scientists painstakingly re-created in the lab the course conditions on the days of the fires. Using high-speed cameras and electron microscopes, they found that if hit upon a rock, clubs containing titanium can produce sparks of up to 3,000 degrees that will burn for more than a second, said James Earthman, a chemical engineering and materials science professor and an author of the study.

WTF did they need electron microscopes for? And how are they determining what the titanium would do under one when they have to completely coat it with gold to see it in the EM?


You don't have to coat conductive things.

But I'm guessing they wanted to look at the divots left behind by the pieces that fly off and maybe if they are big enough to penetrate the passivating oxide layer.
 
2014-03-19 09:20:50 PM
Can't we just ban those things? Think of the children!
 
2014-03-19 09:22:36 PM

KidneyStone: I've never met a golfer that didn't have a built-in fire extinguisher that wasn't fully charged, so to speak, by the third tee.


I've never found a Kidney Stone to be funny before this.
 
2014-03-19 09:23:56 PM
That's why I make my golf clubs out of ferrocerium.
 
2014-03-19 09:27:33 PM
So this is what happened at Fort Hood this week. The captains were just golfing!
 
2014-03-19 09:35:39 PM
I've solved it! The captainof flight 370 was practicing his putting in the cockpit.
 
Al!
2014-03-19 09:40:12 PM

AbiNormal: I'll be happy when they set golfers on fire.


You want all the golfers to be hot for you?  To each their own, I won't judge, but that's a fetish I was previously unaware of.
 
2014-03-19 09:42:53 PM

skinink: The course, the course, the course is on fire. We don't need no water let the motherfarking golfers burn. Burn motherfarkers, burn!


Great rap. You should play all the clubs.
 
2014-03-19 09:46:58 PM
I uncovered another golf hazard and broke my leg in the process.  I fell off the ball washer.
 
2014-03-19 09:57:45 PM

The Bunyip: Check me if I'm wrong Sandy, but if I kill all the golfers, they're gonna lock me up and throw away the key...


GOPHERS, YA' GREAT GIT! XD
 
2014-03-19 10:02:37 PM

skinink: The course, the course, the course is on fire. We don't need no water let the motherfarking golfers burn. Burn motherfarkers, burn!


Now its stuck in my head....
 
2014-03-19 10:03:42 PM

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Oh golly, I'm hot today.


That's a peach, hon!
 
2014-03-19 10:07:14 PM
And I thought worm burners were bad
 
2014-03-19 10:07:27 PM

Russ1642: Cave men knew that bashing certain rocks together creates sparks that can start fires.


Reminds me of a quote I saw a long time ago: "When ancient man screamed and beat the ground with sticks, they called it witchcraft. When modern man does the same thing, they call it golf."
 
2014-03-19 10:08:14 PM

Billy Bathsalt: I was just grinding some stainless steel, which TFA says is the normal club material, and it didn't make many sparks.


You must be doing it wrong, because I cut and grind stainless on a daily basis... That shiat throws a lot of sparks.
 
2014-03-19 10:11:07 PM
I ran a titanium processing mill for a couple of years.

Even though it's the only metal your body won't reject, the medical field was pretty weary of it in the 90's and the biggest customers were the aeronautic industries and once they switched to graphite composites, the titanium industry died.

But then came the Japanese and their titanium drivers.

Then the medical industry finally caught on but if the Japanese hadn't had a driver war your hip transplant would probably be made of wood.
 
2014-03-19 10:18:51 PM

Russ1642: balisane: Aren't those campsite/emergency fire striker doodads made of a titanium and/or magnesium alloy?

Nope. Iron Cerium alloys.


There's definitely some that contain magnesium.
 
2014-03-19 10:25:55 PM

martid4: I uncovered another golf hazard and broke my leg in the process.  I fell off the ball washer.


That's funny. My washer gets on her knees...
 
2014-03-19 10:57:39 PM

fatalvenom: Billy Bathsalt: I was just grinding some stainless steel, which TFA says is the normal club material, and it didn't make many sparks.

You must be doing it wrong, because I cut and grind stainless on a daily basis... That shiat throws a lot of sparks.


Maybe it seemed that way because I wasn't removing much material.
 
2014-03-19 11:03:37 PM

HairyNevus: Russ1642: balisane: Aren't those campsite/emergency fire striker doodads made of a titanium and/or magnesium alloy?

Nope. Iron Cerium alloys.

There's definitely some that contain magnesium.


The fire starter (ferrorcerium rod) is on top. The magnesium block on the bottom is mean to be scraped off and used as a tinder/tinder helper for marginal fire making conditions.
Magnesium burns hot and bright but you can't ignite it just be smacking or scraping it.
 
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