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(Tampa Bay Online)   Relax people, the State of Texas can continue to carry out death sentences. Thankfully they found a new batch of the drugs they use to execute death row inmates   (tbo.com) divider line 75
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2014-03-19 11:55:24 PM

Brick-House: I say Go Green

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Set a chair on the tower and have them go with the sunrise.


Use the charcoal for fertilizer.

/hot... heh
 
2014-03-19 11:56:10 PM
I don't think anything that has to do with the government should be kept secret,  Transparency is essential to a free democratic country.
 
2014-03-20 12:25:53 AM

You Cant Explain That: Wouldn't the most financially responsible thing be to simply use the same rope for all of them?

Each state buys one rope.

Tada

/don't necessarily believe in the death penalty
//do believe that hanging is at least as humane as lethal injection


Because people no longer have experience with it. We had problems in the 19th century with the family of the victim vomiting when the head was decapitated and other nasty stuff squirted out. Imagine what would happen in the wussified world we live in now.

That is why we use chemicals to paralysis them while they die, otherwise the witnesses tend to freak out by the manic movements and death rattles.
 
2014-03-20 12:25:57 AM
It's coming from Mexico. Google "where can I buy pentobarbital" and Yay, Texas.  :-(

So, how's that "war on drugs" doing?  :-/

Hypocrites.
 
2014-03-20 12:27:33 AM
Oh, yeah...NAFTA.  :-/
 
2014-03-20 12:34:33 AM

djkutch: The death penalty is stupid. How about one appeal and then life in solitary confinement. Seems like a deterrent to me and saves tax money.

Might need to release all those dangerous pot smokers to make this possible financially.


Or how about 1 appeal then 1 bullet.
A shiat load better and cheaper than any plan ever.
 
2014-03-20 12:43:34 AM

kling_klang_bed: Eh, just save money and get to some good old fashioned stoning. Can't get more economical than that, and hey it's also public entertainment! Except that we'd charge people either admission fee or they can buy rocks at the door (not ones big enough to kill the person with one hit, mind you).

Public Blood Eagles, anyone?
Deep frying felons?
Or how's about a catapault? All sorts of fun you could have with how to bet on where the perp will land!


Beheading works a treat.
 
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2014-03-20 12:43:51 AM
They should just switch to Propofol anyway.  The problem is that its legislatively expensive to keep up with the times.

™ but some jackass would argue that it burns going in
 
2014-03-20 12:51:27 AM

Litterbox: Good.  Lets get rolling again.

/some people just need killin'


Of course you consider yourself a Christian also, and don't see anything hypocritical about that at all.

Of course, because you're from Texas.

/third world problems
 
2014-03-20 12:52:15 AM
I believe in leaving the ultimate justice up to God, or, if God is not available, his #2 Rick Perry should be able to handle it.
 
2014-03-20 12:55:25 AM
I'm all for bringing back the electric chair.  Some death row inmates deserve to be fried rather than gently put to sleep.
 
2014-03-20 01:06:03 AM

King Something: Bathroom Samurai:


Does Texas not have rope and a tree? I've never understood why so much effort was put into lethal injection when a properly done hanging would result in instant death from a broken neck.

The thing about hanging someone from the neck until they are dead is that if it's done properly and kills the condemned by breaking their neck, the hanged person doesn't live long enough to feel the pain.


I read someplace, I forget where, that that technique just causes a badly broken neck that leave the person quadriplegic and (hopefully) unconscious but they actually die from strangulation, which takes several minutes.

Having just looked it up again, I found this at HowStuffWorks:

"When the neck breaks and severs the spine, blood pressure drops down to nothing in about a second, and the subject loses consciousness. Brain death then takes several minutes to occur, and complete death can take more than 15 or 20 minutes, but the person at the end of the rope most likely can't feel or experience any of it."

Like you could tell them otherwise. But anyway, you DON'T die instantly.

That put me off hanging as a suicide method: worrying about hanging there paralyzed to strangle for 20 minutes is bad enough, but with my luck somebody would find me and cut me down to condemn me to a life of total helplessness in a body I can't feel. That's even worse fate than when (only legal) wife ditched me in 1983. (Which in retrospect was doing me a favor.)

Not only that but according to Wikipedia people survive "hangman's fracture" pretty often: "It is not unusual for patients to walk in for treatment and have such a fracture discovered on X-rays."

To be hanging there (mostly?) conscious and able to feel pain while slowly strangling for 20 minutes is an even worse death.

No thanks. A shotgun (which I don't have) in the mouth is now my first choice, and failing that hopping off the 5/3 building (Lexington's tallest) ought to do it.

A drug OD, whether by mouth or by vein, is right out: I've known people who ODed on heroin and came that >< close several times, but coughed out the puke and resumed breathing or were found and narcanned or something; and my own 2 or 3 attempts with pills & booze only got me more brain damage and damn near committed twice, and the last time I got pneumonia so bad they kept me sedated for IIRC two weeks. (Hint: don't leave any hints and crawl off into the sewer to die so you won't be found, but even then don't count on not surviving to be even worse off.)

But anyway. My last suicide attempt was in 1983 and I still have NO PLANS to do that any time in the foreseeable future. It's just something I keep in the back of my mind in case they tell me I have terminal cancer or something. Which is pretty unlikely, so y'all Farkers will have to keep suffering for a long while yet; I might even outlive this here BBS.

To bring this back on topic: I support the head shot idea, though buckshot would be better; or we could bring back the ancient Roman practice of throwing them away, like from the top of a lovely tall building like the blue one (below).

www.qsl.net


Think that's tall enough?
 
2014-03-20 01:09:51 AM
Good
Hopefully ObamaCare can help with the Co-Pay
 
2014-03-20 01:35:58 AM

doglover: kling_klang_bed: Eh, just save money and get to some good old fashioned stoning. Can't get more economical than that, and hey it's also public entertainment! Except that we'd charge people either admission fee or they can buy rocks at the door (not ones big enough to kill the person with one hit, mind you).

Public Blood Eagles, anyone?
Deep frying felons?
Or how's about a catapault? All sorts of fun you could have with how to bet on where the perp will land!

Beheading works a treat.


Kinda makes me curious how many times they had to replace guillotines.
 
2014-03-20 01:43:45 AM
Why not carbon monoxide poisoning? Isn't that a painless way to fall asleep and die?


Theaetetus: Texas law does not specifically spell out whether officials can refuse to make the name of drug suppliers public, but Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott's office has on three occasions rejected arguments by the agency that disclosing that information would put the drug supply and manufacturers at risk.
Clark said the prison agency planned to ask Abbott to reconsider the issue.
"We asked him three times and he said 'no' three times, but we haven't yet asked him four times," Clark said. "We plan to ask at least a fourth time, and if necessary, a fifth, sixth, or seventh time. But not eight times, because our attorneys can't count that high."


That's hilarious, thanks!
 
2014-03-20 02:56:07 AM

djkutch: The death penalty is stupid. How about one appeal and then life in solitary confinement. Seems like a deterrent to me and saves tax money.

Might need to release all those dangerous pot smokers to make this possible financially.


How about no? One of the guys waiting for the drug here is on death row for raping an 11 month old. He does NOT deserve to live out his natural life while I and more importantly the family members of his victim pay for his free room, board and medical care. If you are THAT broken, goodbye.
 
2014-03-20 03:32:54 AM
Why didn't they just use a lot of morphine? It seems a lot more humane than paralysis. Works for euthanasia patients.
 
2014-03-20 03:50:28 AM
Ok.  If gas is out due to unpredictable times of death and adverse reaction prior to death, drug cocktails are out for a similar reason, hanging out for potential long suffering, firing squad for the psychological affect on the shooters/unpredictable death, guillotine/beheading out for the lack of quick death, falls should be out for unpredictable affects, where can we go?   May I suggest high explosives.  Put a shaped charge above the convicted criminals head and fire.  Death is instantaneous so no pain, you could use an automatic timer with a randomizer so the period of detonation is anywhere from 5s to 30s so no obvious guilt by the person who pushes the button, no long term wait as once it fires the execution will be over.  The downsides are of course the stress waiting for the firing which is present in any method of execution, a risk of danger to the officers who face danger in most execution methods, and the cleanup aspect and lack of remains for the deceased families.  High explosives would seem to be the way to go as a quick, painless, and readily available method to remove those sentenced to death from the living.
 
2014-03-20 06:17:18 AM
As long as we sometimes execute the innocent, the death penalty will be wrong. It's illogical to support death for murder, and the condone the killing of innocents (while the real murders might remain free).
 
2014-03-20 08:00:00 AM

djkutch: The death penalty is stupid. How about one appeal and then life in solitary confinement. Seems like a deterrent to me and saves tax money.

Might need to release all those dangerous pot smokers to make this possible financially.


I'd be ok with all of that.

Convert all those 8x10 cells into 2 4x10 cells and really pack them in.
 
2014-03-20 08:00:25 AM
Just have these guys take care of it

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2014-03-20 08:10:59 AM
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You remove a criminal from the Earth, plus you can sell the meat for much more than the cost of the bullet. Win-Win.
 
2014-03-20 10:05:48 AM

organizmx: Litterbox: Good.  Lets get rolling again.

/some people just need killin'

Of course you consider yourself a Christian also, and don't see anything hypocritical about that at all.

Of course, because you're from Texas.

/third world problems


Actually, Im Atheist.  I simply have very set views on crime and punishment as Ive been in LE for over 20 years now.  Feel free to look up David Wayne Spence or Kenneth McDuff to learn why I feel like some folks just need killin'

/the more you know
 
2014-03-20 12:18:56 PM
http://www.texasmonthly.com/story/investigating-the-lake-waco-murders

There's something wrong with a state that would release the convicted mastermind of a murder plot from death row in 1993, and then execute one of his accomplices in 1997.
 
2014-03-20 01:20:59 PM
New death drug? It's called Iron City Beer.
 
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