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(Tampa Bay Online)   Relax people, the State of Texas can continue to carry out death sentences. Thankfully they found a new batch of the drugs they use to execute death row inmates   (tbo.com) divider line 75
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2014-03-19 08:17:13 PM
Still don't understand why they don't just use helium. As a bonus it would make those last words so much funnier.
 
2014-03-19 08:30:17 PM
Good.  Lets get rolling again.

/some people just need killin'
 
2014-03-19 08:30:27 PM

fusillade762: Still don't understand why they don't just use helium. As a bonus it would make those last words so much funnier.


It'd really be great if your last words were "The e... The e... That's all, folks!"
 
2014-03-19 08:42:16 PM
Wolf Brand chili?
 
2014-03-19 09:06:52 PM
The death penalty is stupid. How about one appeal and then life in solitary confinement. Seems like a deterrent to me and saves tax money.

Might need to release all those dangerous pot smokers to make this possible financially.
 
2014-03-19 09:11:39 PM
HOUSTON (AP) - Texas has obtained a new batch of the drugs it uses to execute death row inmates, allowing the state to continue carrying out death sentences once its existing supply expires at the end of the month.
But correction officials will not say where they bought the drugs, arguing that information must be kept secret to protect the safety of its new supplier.



www.chilliworld.com
 
2014-03-19 09:13:43 PM
Texas law does not specifically spell out whether officials can refuse to make the name of drug suppliers public, but Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott's office has on three occasions rejected arguments by the agency that disclosing that information would put the drug supply and manufacturers at risk.
Clark said the prison agency planned to ask Abbott to reconsider the issue.
"We asked him three times and he said 'no' three times, but we haven't yet asked him four times," Clark said. "We plan to ask at least a fourth time, and if necessary, a fifth, sixth, or seventh time. But not eight times, because our attorneys can't count that high."
 
2014-03-19 10:51:30 PM

fusillade762: Still don't understand why they don't just use helium. As a bonus it would make those last words so much funnier.


Yeah, I find the death penalty abhorrent, but all you really need for the perfect execution (or suicide) is a bag, some tape, and a party canister of helium. No muss, no fuss.
 
2014-03-19 10:54:17 PM
Wouldn't the most financially responsible thing be to simply use the same rope for all of them?

Each state buys one rope.

Tada

/don't necessarily believe in the death penalty
//do believe that hanging is at least as humane as lethal injection
 
2014-03-19 10:54:54 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: fusillade762: Still don't understand why they don't just use helium. As a bonus it would make those last words so much funnier.

Yeah, I find the death penalty abhorrent, but all you really need for the perfect execution (or suicide) is a bag, some tape, and a party canister of helium. No muss, no fuss.


But that wouldn't be as much fun humane as giving them a first drug to paralyze them, a second drug to... uh..., and a third drug that causes excruciating pain! Because really, it's not about a bloodlust for vengeance, it's about a humane act of incapacitation.

/we'll figure out what the second drug is supposed to do, as soon as we get done giggling sadly and humanely watching over this twitching guy
 
2014-03-19 10:55:04 PM
that will last them through May according to another story I saw earlier today.
 
2014-03-19 10:55:54 PM
But correction officials will not say where they bought the drugs, arguing that information must be kept secret to protect the safety of its new supplier.

Something tells me this supplier is based in a country we're not entirely buddy-buddy with.
 
2014-03-19 10:56:11 PM
I take it they found a bottle of bleach at the local dollar store that they will be injecting into the inmates?
 
2014-03-19 10:56:43 PM
I should add that I'm not necessarily opposed to the death penalty - I'm opposed to hypocrisy. If we as a society are going to indulge our thirst for vengeance, then we shouldn't half-ass it with these humane measures.
 
2014-03-19 10:57:02 PM
Why not just OD them on heroin seized in drug busts?
 
2014-03-19 10:57:31 PM

Gosling: But correction officials will not say where they bought the drugs, arguing that information must be kept secret to protect the safety of its new supplier.

Something tells me this supplier is based in a country we're not entirely buddy-buddy with.


There is some fine irony in anti-death penalty protestors sending death threats to death penalty drug providers though.
 
2014-03-19 10:57:32 PM
Why don't they use the drugs and equipment at the Planned Parenthood offices the state shut down?
 
2014-03-19 10:58:40 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Gosling: But correction officials will not say where they bought the drugs, arguing that information must be kept secret to protect the safety of its new supplier.

Something tells me this supplier is based in a country we're not entirely buddy-buddy with.

There is some fine irony in anti-death penalty protestors sending death threats to death penalty drug providers though.


There aren't any death threats. They're trying to protect the profits of the supplier, as many countries will refuse to import drugs from them.
 
2014-03-19 10:59:29 PM

Theaetetus: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Gosling: But correction officials will not say where they bought the drugs, arguing that information must be kept secret to protect the safety of its new supplier.

Something tells me this supplier is based in a country we're not entirely buddy-buddy with.

There is some fine irony in anti-death penalty protestors sending death threats to death penalty drug providers though.

There aren't any death threats. They're trying to protect the profits of the supplier, as many countries will refuse to import drugs from them.


Oh. That makes more sense because it is Texas.
 
2014-03-19 11:00:39 PM
I'm not necessarily opposed to the death penalty, but could Texas prosecutors actually go the extra mile and make sure the people they convict are actually guilty?It seems that Texass has a slight problem with putting innocent people on death row.
 
2014-03-19 11:00:50 PM
Does Texas not have rope and a tree? I've never understood why so much effort was put into lethal injection when a properly done hanging would result in instant death from a broken neck.
 
2014-03-19 11:01:22 PM
This is indicative of the stupidity of death penalty states.  It's that farking difficult to kill someone?
 
2014-03-19 11:01:51 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Gosling: But correction officials will not say where they bought the drugs, arguing that information must be kept secret to protect the safety of its new supplier.

Something tells me this supplier is based in a country we're not entirely buddy-buddy with.

There is some fine irony in anti-death penalty protestors sending death threats to death penalty drug providers though.


Given that this is Texas, somebody in the corrections department found a website that sells "Canadian" (actually heavily adulterated Chinese or Iranian or something) drugs and, with his supervisor and a accounting person in on it, told the budget people that he bought it from legitimate sources. Some fudged paperwork by the supervisor and they bought the "drugs" and pocketed a bit of extra cash. Nobody would care because it is lethal injection drugs, as long as they are not too greedy.
 
2014-03-19 11:02:15 PM

cmb53208: I'm not necessarily opposed to the death penalty, but could Texas prosecutors actually go the extra mile and make sure the people they convict are actually guilty?It seems that Texass has a slight problem with putting innocent people on death row.



They can't waste time with real trials and evidence gathering...
There are more important things at stake:
ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2014-03-19 11:02:37 PM

djkutch: The death penalty is stupid. How about one appeal and then life in solitary confinement. Seems like a deterrent to me and saves tax money.

Might need to release all those dangerous pot smokers to make this possible financially.


Solitary confinement is inhuman.

And no, I don't care what those people have done, its irrelevant to me.
 
2014-03-19 11:02:38 PM

cmb53208: I'm not necessarily opposed to the death penalty, but could Texas prosecutors actually go the extra mile and make sure the people they convict are actually guilty?It seems that Texass has a slight problem with putting innocent people on death row.


And maybe stop executing people who can only count to potato too.
 
2014-03-19 11:04:30 PM

Bathroom Samurai: Does Texas not have rope and a tree? I've never understood why so much effort was put into lethal injection when a properly done hanging would result in instant death from a broken neck.


An improper one leaves the person twitching and writhing for up to a half hour. Some people decided that a half hour of slow strangulation was unnecessary torture, particularly when we have nice easy drugs that we give to terminally ill old people and animals that need to be euthanized.

... of course, we don't give  those drugs to inmates. They get the excruciatingly painful cocktail. Because... uh... humane.
 
2014-03-19 11:06:33 PM
I'd prefer the Russian method: a bullet to the head (as long as they let me keep my face).

Quick, effective, probably not painful.
 
2014-03-19 11:07:45 PM
I say Go Green

This...
lh3.googleusercontent.com
Plus these...
solar.calfinder.com
 
2014-03-19 11:08:41 PM
The only way the death penalty works as a deterrent is if it is swift and immediate.  Therefore, we'd need tribunals for all death-penalty-qualifiable crimes to met justice in weeks/months latest.

Since we're not that kind of country, the fifteen to thirty years on death row do little to nothing to stop crime.  It turns from a punishment to a retaliation.

So many -- I mean so many -- random crimes especially the random violence like killing innocent store clerks and such, make me wish death on that person immediately finding guilt.  But the US just isn't particularly set up to effectively hand out justice through death that effectively.  Just lock 'em up for life.  Lord knows there's enough of a prison private industry already to want to handle that.
 
2014-03-19 11:10:02 PM
Eh, just save money and get to some good old fashioned stoning. Can't get more economical than that, and hey it's also public entertainment! Except that we'd charge people either admission fee or they can buy rocks at the door (not ones big enough to kill the person with one hit, mind you).

Public Blood Eagles, anyone?
Deep frying felons?
Or how's about a catapault? All sorts of fun you could have with how to bet on where the perp will land!
 
2014-03-19 11:11:30 PM
The 8th Amendment prevents cruel and unusual punishments.  It doesn't say anything about being painless.  Use Nitrogen gas or even Carbon Monoxide and put them to sleep.  If you don't like that, use a hot shot of heroin or other seized pain medication and give a does sufficient to guarantee death (100 times the LD50) to be sure.  Maybe there is a burning sensation or slight discomfort, but that shouldn't be sufficient to challenge the method except by those who would agree to no method of execution. If we don't have the death penalty, so be it, but if we elect to utilize the death penalty, we need to actually use it.  Having a death penalty without actually using it does nothing but punish the individuals sentenced and the victims families who expect it to be carried out.
 
2014-03-19 11:11:37 PM
Into the Abyss by Werner Herzog is a pretty good documentary on justice in Texas.

There's a former executioner for the state of Texas in the film. He was all good until this one showed up

www.clarkprosecutor.org

Between Karla Faye and the push to speed up the killings, the guy just quit. He couldn't take it anymore. Not surprisingly, they found a replacement quickly and things were spinning in greased grooves again.
 
2014-03-19 11:14:53 PM
 
2014-03-19 11:15:48 PM
Bullets or slatted chairs?
 
2014-03-19 11:16:34 PM

Molavian: Why not just OD them on heroin seized in drug busts?


Or Krokodil. A few pounds of missing flesh, muscle and bone would definitely get the point across, and make them a little less rowdy!
 
2014-03-19 11:18:13 PM

Brick-House: I say Go Green

This...
[lh3.googleusercontent.com image 294x438]
Plus these...
[solar.calfinder.com image 500x352]


Bah, that's a waste of electricity. If you really want to go green, there's this:
hauntedstories.net www.johnanthonyvineyards.com
 
2014-03-19 11:22:55 PM
My AP News app thought this was newsy enough of an event to wake me out of a nap with a breaking news alert.
 
2014-03-19 11:23:34 PM

djkutch: The death penalty is stupid. How about one appeal and then life in solitary confinement. Seems like a deterrent to me and saves tax money.

Might need to release all those dangerous pot smokers to make this possible financially.


1) Life in solitary confinement is only marginally less amoral than murdering someone1 (and would be unconsitutional... although why murdering murderers is legal and acceptable is baffling at best).
2) Murder or any kind of prison sentence isn't a deterrent for murderers and would-be murderers (if it was, then there wouldn't be murders in the first place in the US).

/1the death penalty being murder; I reject the bullshiat assertion that intentionally ending another human's life is ever acceptable or should ever be legal, anywhere
//forgivable, maybe, depending on the circumstances (e.g., as a last resort to save the lives of others), but never legal or acceptable, especially in the complete absence of any threat to anyone
/also, if we freed the pot smokers, then what would happen to our for-profit prisons? ...and what about all those kids living in poverty... just think of all the harm we'd do by letting non-violent kids not spend their youth in prison!
 
2014-03-19 11:23:55 PM
Brick House ... it's been tried before without success ...
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true story

/s
 
2014-03-19 11:24:35 PM

djkutch: The death penalty is stupid. How about one appeal and then life in solitary confinement. Seems like a deterrent to me and saves tax money.

Might need to release all those dangerous pot smokers to make this possible financially.


The whole point is justice part of that is vengeance. Some people need killing, I have medium large list and I promise not one will be missed.
 
2014-03-19 11:25:33 PM

Bathroom Samurai: Does Texas not have rope and a tree? I've never understood why so much effort was put into lethal injection when a properly done hanging would result in instant death from a broken neck.


The thing about hanging someone from the neck until they are dead is that if it's done properly and kills the condemned by breaking their neck, the hanged person doesn't live long enough to feel the pain. Hence the 15-minute-long lethal injection procedure.

/see also the gas chamber and the use of cyanide gas for a painful death by poisoning instead of helium or nitrogen for a peaceful death from hypoxia
 
2014-03-19 11:26:47 PM
I wonder how that "keeping supplier secret" this is going to work when media gets lawyers in there with FoI lawsuits.
 
2014-03-19 11:28:54 PM

GDubDub: I wonder how that "keeping supplier secret" this is going to work when media gets lawyers in there with FoI lawsuits.


instantyeah.org
... Fol-ishly?
 
2014-03-19 11:29:11 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: fusillade762: Still don't understand why they don't just use helium. As a bonus it would make those last words so much funnier.

Yeah, I find the death penalty abhorrent, but all you really need for the perfect execution (or suicide) is a bag, some tape, and a party canister of helium. No muss, no fuss.


Wont they just float away ?
 
2014-03-19 11:32:43 PM
Is it 5th hand smoke? I'm deathly allergic.
 
2014-03-19 11:32:47 PM

Theaetetus: GDubDub: I wonder how that "keeping supplier secret" this is going to work when media gets lawyers in there with FoI lawsuits.

[instantyeah.org image 259x220]
... Fol-ishly?


YEAHHHHHHHHHH!!!111!!!one!
 
2014-03-19 11:34:23 PM

GDubDub: I wonder how that "keeping supplier secret" this is going to work when media gets lawyers in there with FoI lawsuits.


Backwards assholes will eventually learn that the rest of the world doesn't agree with dumbass worldviews where killing people is considered the job of the state.
 
2014-03-19 11:41:02 PM
s3.amazonaws.com


approves
 
2014-03-19 11:41:06 PM
Perhaps they should just grow some pretty flowers to look at.
 
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