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2014-03-19 05:46:52 PM  
sounds practical

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2014-03-19 05:48:10 PM  
Everything past 88 mph is a waste, Doc.
 
2014-03-19 05:49:10 PM  
How Why do you build a car capable of 1,000mph?


FTFY
 
2014-03-19 05:49:40 PM  
That's great, Scott!

/without a doubt would wreck that thing once I hit 225. Maybe sooner.
 
2014-03-19 05:49:41 PM  
I'm always a bit dubious about land speed records set with vehicles that are basically a jet plane without wings.
I understand that there are different technical challenges when you want your jet plane to do 1,000 mph on its wheels instead of on wings but somehow it seems that if you want to claim a land speed record the thrust on your vehicle should be through the wheels.
 
2014-03-19 05:49:59 PM  
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Alright, which one of you bastards put a penny on the road?
 
2014-03-19 05:53:27 PM  
They will need a Bloodhound to find the pieces of the driver.
 
2014-03-19 05:54:13 PM  
OK, I'm gonna have to read this when I get home, but I keep vowing to go to Speed Week every year, it sounds like a blast, even if there aren't any new records set that year. I only had time to skim, but I hope that Bonneville is where this car is eventually gonna end up. I know they talk about the history of the salt flats...
 
2014-03-19 05:57:24 PM  

The Southern Dandy: How Why do you build a car capable of 1,000mph?


FTFY


How else are you going to test an oscillation overthruster?
 
2014-03-19 05:59:00 PM  

aprentic: I'm always a bit dubious about land speed records set with vehicles that are basically a jet plane without wings.
I understand that there are different technical challenges when you want your jet plane to do 1,000 mph on its wheels instead of on wings but somehow it seems that if you want to claim a land speed record the thrust on your vehicle should be through the wheels.



Thrust never comes from the Wheels....transference of power to the wheels always begins with oxygen and fuel....if it doesn't take off, or is incapable of taking off, it is "land based".  I think the ultimate goal here may be to control a vehicle on land at such speeds.

But what do I know?  I'm still drunk from St Paddy's day.
 
2014-03-19 06:04:33 PM  
Cool and all that...but no practical uses at all.
 
2014-03-19 06:05:26 PM  
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NO FLYING CARS!
 
2014-03-19 06:06:40 PM  
That would be as useful as a broke dick.
 
2014-03-19 06:12:14 PM  

aprentic: I'm always a bit dubious about land speed records set with vehicles that are basically a jet plane without wings.
I understand that there are different technical challenges when you want your jet plane to do 1,000 mph on its wheels instead of on wings but somehow it seems that if you want to claim a land speed record the thrust on your vehicle should be through the wheels.


Seconded
 
2014-03-19 06:13:30 PM  

Anayalator: sounds practical

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From no beer to b double E double R U N to jail in 3.2 seconds
 
2014-03-19 06:26:14 PM  

aprentic: I'm always a bit dubious about land speed records set with vehicles that are basically a jet plane without wings.
I understand that there are different technical challenges when you want your jet plane to do 1,000 mph on its wheels instead of on wings but somehow it seems that if you want to claim a land speed record the thrust on your vehicle should be through the wheels.


Came to say this. Thank you, fine sir.
 
2014-03-19 06:30:24 PM  

The Southern Dandy: Why do you build a car capable of 1,000mph?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xawGqRFLYcE

/would have thought this would have been clear regarding this kind of thing by now
 
2014-03-19 06:32:00 PM  

The Southern Dandy: Why do you build a car capable of 1,000mph?


It's a dog lick project.
 
2014-03-19 06:38:44 PM  

Mikey1969: OK, I'm gonna have to read this when I get home, but I keep vowing to go to Speed Week every year, it sounds like a blast, even if there aren't any new records set that year. I only had time to skim, but I hope that Bonneville is where this car is eventually gonna end up. I know they talk about the history of the salt flats...


It is one of the coolest things I've ever done. Breathtakingly beautiful and really cool gear heads. Fastest car we saw was just over 300 which was stunning. Can't imagine double that. HFS.

Plus if you like land art Spiral Jetty is half a days drive around to the top of the lake. Great vacation.

Utah for all it's drawbacks regarding drinking and general uptightness is probably the most beautiful state top to bottom.
 
2014-03-19 06:40:15 PM  
It was cool hearing that Cosworth motor howl just a second or two before they lit the candle on that test rocket.

I never could understand why people question the need or desire to do things like this.
 
2014-03-19 06:48:46 PM  

Mikey1969: OK, I'm gonna have to read this when I get home, but I keep vowing to go to Speed Week every year, it sounds like a blast, even if there aren't any new records set that year. I only had time to skim, but I hope that Bonneville is where this car is eventually gonna end up. I know they talk about the history of the salt flats...


It is. Even now with all the Rules and Regulations and assorted Don't Do This, You Can't Do That. Speaking of which .. if you really want to get your motor running, try the Silver State Classic ..
http://www.sscc.us/event_description.aspx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEDeorDvrsE

BTW - I've read that at extreme speeds the driver has a view of the terrain ahead that begins to 'drop off' .. literally compressing into a sight that appears to be falling into a tunnel ..
 
2014-03-19 06:57:24 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: The Southern Dandy: Why do you build a car capable of 1,000mph?

It's a dog lick project.


Red rocket, red rocket!
 
2014-03-19 07:14:18 PM  

johnny queso: It is one of the coolest things I've ever done


I used to go to the poor man's version at a dry lake outside of Victorville, CA (yeah, yeah; I know the movie reference). There were Harleys with wheelie bars and a pro-comp dragster or two. I watched a '79 Chevy pickup do 85 through the trap.

/Good times
 
2014-03-19 07:20:29 PM  

aprentic: I'm always a bit dubious about land speed records set with vehicles that are basically a jet plane without wings.
I understand that there are different technical challenges when you want your jet plane to do 1,000 mph on its wheels instead of on wings but somehow it seems that if you want to claim a land speed record the thrust on your vehicle should be through the wheels.


Here is what you are interested in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel-driven_land_speed_record

So, why not be even more of an ass and complain how it isn't human powered?  After all that is more of a human accomplishment right?

Driving a "jet plane without wings" on the ground over 1000mph is a mind boggling accomplishment, it might seem ho-hum since we have other "planes without wings" going over 3000mph in the sky, but if it was so easy it would have already been done.
 
2014-03-19 07:23:21 PM  
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No, but you might need an oscillation overthruster - in case you run into a mountain or something.
 
2014-03-19 07:27:32 PM  

phamwaa: johnny queso: It is one of the coolest things I've ever done

I used to go to the poor man's version at a dry lake outside of Victorville, CA (yeah, yeah; I know the movie reference). There were Harleys with wheelie bars and a pro-comp dragster or two. I watched a '79 Chevy pickup do 85 through the trap.

/Good times


El Mirage?

Went there after we went to bonneville. Saw a dude really pile it up on a bike at close to 200. Not unscathed, but lucky to not be a grease stain.

The cars were equally cool, but the white of the salt flats really makes everything beautiful.
 
2014-03-19 07:40:02 PM  

aprentic: somehow it seems that if you want to claim a land speed record the thrust on your vehicle should be through the wheels.


Yep.  Land speed records became a lot less interesting when they just started strapping jet engines on huge pinewood derby cars.  As far as I'm concerned, the record is still 470 mph.
 
2014-03-19 07:43:00 PM  
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2014-03-19 07:50:22 PM  
Believe me, back in '63 & '64 when I was 11 and 12,  the speed runs back & forth between Craig Breedlove in his "Spirit of America" and Art Arfons and his "Green Monster" was a big deal covered by all the car, hot rod and drag magazines. On an early run Breedlove went flying down the flats and had a chute failure and burned out his brakes at 400mph, clipped a telephone pole and finally wound up in an irrigation ditch in one of the wildest rides Anyone has ever had. Breedlove's "Spirit" was a more aerodynamic machine where Arfons' "Monster" was just that, the biggest jet engine he could get sitting on top of 4 wheels. In '65 Breedlove's new "Sonic1" just topped 600mph and was a real beauty. Arfons' more crude "Monster" had reached its limit and couldn't do any better. In more recent times, Breedlove was developing a newer "Spirit of America", crashed it once at around 400mph then ran out of funding when the Sonic made it's record run. It just seems wrong that anyone other than the USA should have the LSR record.
 
2014-03-19 08:09:55 PM  

aprentic: I'm always a bit dubious about land speed records set with vehicles that are basically a jet plane without wings.
I understand that there are different technical challenges when you want your jet plane to do 1,000 mph on its wheels instead of on wings but somehow it seems that if you want to claim a land speed record the thrust on your vehicle should be through the wheels.


This.

250 mph from wheels is amazing.

1000 mph from a jet is pathetic, while having a jet anywhere near the land is stupid. It's not even impressive anymore. You're just begging to die in a wreck at that point. Meanwhile an SR-71 from the 70's would still smoke your ass 100 times over over without even trying.
 
2014-03-19 08:22:15 PM  

grinding_journalist: The Southern Dandy: Why do you build a car capable of 1,000mph?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xawGqRFLYcE

/would have thought this would have been clear regarding this kind of thing by now


Thanks for posting that.
 
2014-03-19 08:35:01 PM  

Mikey1969: OK, I'm gonna have to read this when I get home, but I keep vowing to go to Speed Week every year, it sounds like a blast, even if there aren't any new records set that year. I only had time to skim, but I hope that Bonneville is where this car is eventually gonna end up. I know they talk about the history of the salt flats...


Get this, Bonneville isn't big enough to safely run this car to top speed.

Wrap your mind around that.  They're going to use a massive dry lake bed in South Africa.

/been to BUB speed week a few times on my way out to race at Miller.
//Watched a friend do multiple 360's from 150mph and come out unscathed.
 
2014-03-19 08:39:34 PM  
Even with an IQ of 6,000 it's still brown trousers time.
 
2014-03-19 08:52:19 PM  
I'll just leave this here.

200 MPH!!
 
2014-03-19 08:55:50 PM  

johnny queso: phamwaa: johnny queso: It is one of the coolest things I've ever done

I used to go to the poor man's version at a dry lake outside of Victorville, CA (yeah, yeah; I know the movie reference). There were Harleys with wheelie bars and a pro-comp dragster or two. I watched a '79 Chevy pickup do 85 through the trap.

/Good times

El Mirage?

Went there after we went to bonneville. Saw a dude really pile it up on a bike at close to 200. Not unscathed, but lucky to not be a grease stain.

The cars were equally cool, but the white of the salt flats really makes everything beautiful.


That's it. Orange County Timing Association.
 
2014-03-19 09:09:34 PM  

ElPollotonto: Even with an IQ of 6,000 it's still brown trousers time.


This is a shorter version of brown trouser time. Props to the driver for not backpedaling at all.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b37_1393720559
 
2014-03-19 09:16:26 PM  
I'll just be impressed if they have a wheel that can survive moving over ground at 1,000mph. Unless their aerodynamics are severely rarefying the air in the wheel enclosures, the lower front compression wave should be passing auto-ignition temperature.
 
2014-03-19 09:30:40 PM  

Jeng: aprentic: I'm always a bit dubious about land speed records set with vehicles that are basically a jet plane without wings.
I understand that there are different technical challenges when you want your jet plane to do 1,000 mph on its wheels instead of on wings but somehow it seems that if you want to claim a land speed record the thrust on your vehicle should be through the wheels.

Here is what you are interested in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel-driven_land_speed_record

So, why not be even more of an ass and complain how it isn't human powered?  After all that is more of a human accomplishment right?

Driving a "jet plane without wings" on the ground over 1000mph is a mind boggling accomplishment, it might seem ho-hum since we have other "planes without wings" going over 3000mph in the sky, but if it was so easy it would have already been done.


Yeah. That seems like a more legitimate land speed record.
I appreciate the difficultly in getting a jet plane to taxi at 1,000 mph but it still doesn't seem like a land speed record.
If you gave a runner bionic legs it would be a huge accomplishment but I wouldn't count Steve Austin as the fastest human on the planet.
Either one is impressive but it should have a separate category.
When I hear about a land speed record I expect an insanely fast car not a jet engine with ground capabilities.
 
2014-03-19 09:50:41 PM  

aprentic: Jeng: aprentic: I'm always a bit dubious about land speed records set with vehicles that are basically a jet plane without wings.
I understand that there are different technical challenges when you want your jet plane to do 1,000 mph on its wheels instead of on wings but somehow it seems that if you want to claim a land speed record the thrust on your vehicle should be through the wheels.

Here is what you are interested in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel-driven_land_speed_record

So, why not be even more of an ass and complain how it isn't human powered?  After all that is more of a human accomplishment right?

Driving a "jet plane without wings" on the ground over 1000mph is a mind boggling accomplishment, it might seem ho-hum since we have other "planes without wings" going over 3000mph in the sky, but if it was so easy it would have already been done.

Yeah. That seems like a more legitimate land speed record.
I appreciate the difficultly in getting a jet plane to taxi at 1,000 mph but it still doesn't seem like a land speed record.
If you gave a runner bionic legs it would be a huge accomplishment but I wouldn't count Steve Austin as the fastest human on the planet.
Either one is impressive but it should have a separate category.
When I hear about a land speed record I expect an insanely fast car not a jet engine with ground capabilities.


Yep. You might as well run an actual aircraft attached to a set of wheels by a flexible frame or line or something. Hey, its wheels are in continual contact with the ground as it flies past; land speed record.

/if some jackass actually does this I want credit
 
2014-03-19 10:03:39 PM  
How many jiggawatts does it take to run that thing?
 
2014-03-19 10:25:03 PM  

moike: Get this, Bonneville isn't big enough to safely run this car to top speed.

Wrap your mind around that.  They're going to use a massive dry lake bed in South Africa.


Wow....

Too bad. Would have liked to have been there.

/been to BUB speed week a few times on my way out to race at Miller.
//Watched a friend do multiple 360's from 150mph and come out unscathed.


Very cool. I really have no excuse to go, except money and time off, but we can plan around it. Best part is that my wife has not answered back with anything like 'Well, see who wants to go with you.' when I say that I want to go some year. Usually, she's not a 'Go out in the desert and hang out' type of gal, so it's cool because she actually wants to go. :-)

I really am blown away by how much cool stuff there is in Utah, I don't know that I'll make it to see everything, but I plan on making Speed Week a thing in the next couple of years. It looks like a blast.
 
2014-03-19 10:35:54 PM  

johnny queso: It is one of the coolest things I've ever done. Breathtakingly beautiful and really cool gear heads. Fastest car we saw was just over 300 which was stunning. Can't imagine double that. HFS.

Plus if you like land art Spiral Jetty is half a days drive around to the top of the lake. Great vacation.

Utah for all it's drawbacks regarding drinking and general uptightness is probably the most beautiful state top to bottom.


I live in Salt Lake, so I feel guilty for not doing more here each year. Summer comes, and I just don't feel like doing much, because 105 is just too reminiscent of being back in Az. I have to keep reminding myself that it isn't getting hotter, and it's really only half an hour to the mountains. :-)

Yeah, the alcohol thing is a pain, but there is still good beer to be had here, and some really good breweries. Also, the law is weird. I can go to the amusement park up the road, and carry around beer if I want. Since it's private property, it's allowed. I couldn't do that in Arizona. 'Uptightness' isn't as bad as people think, so that part isn't too bad.
 
2014-03-19 10:53:50 PM  

Mikey1969: johnny queso: It is one of the coolest things I've ever done. Breathtakingly beautiful and really cool gear heads. Fastest car we saw was just over 300 which was stunning. Can't imagine double that. HFS.

Plus if you like land art Spiral Jetty is half a days drive around to the top of the lake. Great vacation.

Utah for all it's drawbacks regarding drinking and general uptightness is probably the most beautiful state top to bottom.

I live in Salt Lake, so I feel guilty for not doing more here each year. Summer comes, and I just don't feel like doing much, because 105 is just too reminiscent of being back in Az. I have to keep reminding myself that it isn't getting hotter, and it's really only half an hour to the mountains. :-)

Yeah, the alcohol thing is a pain, but there is still good beer to be had here, and some really good breweries. Also, the law is weird. I can go to the amusement park up the road, and carry around beer if I want. Since it's private property, it's allowed. I couldn't do that in Arizona. 'Uptightness' isn't as bad as people think, so that part isn't too bad.


We did bonneville, spiral jetty, sundance(town not fest), Moab, hells backbone, Capitol reef, Bryce. Even after all of that, rolling into Zion expecting beauty fatigue, we were completely blown away. So incredible. Capitol reef is one of the most under appreciated places I've ever been. It is beautiful.

Sorry for the thread jack.
 
2014-03-19 10:55:16 PM  

Skyd1v: The Southern Dandy: How Why do you build a car capable of 1,000mph?


FTFY

How else are you going to test an oscillation overthruster?


Laugh while you can, monkey boy!
 
2014-03-19 11:08:57 PM  

johnny queso: Mikey1969: johnny queso: It is one of the coolest things I've ever done. Breathtakingly beautiful and really cool gear heads. Fastest car we saw was just over 300 which was stunning. Can't imagine double that. HFS.

Plus if you like land art Spiral Jetty is half a days drive around to the top of the lake. Great vacation.

Utah for all it's drawbacks regarding drinking and general uptightness is probably the most beautiful state top to bottom.

I live in Salt Lake, so I feel guilty for not doing more here each year. Summer comes, and I just don't feel like doing much, because 105 is just too reminiscent of being back in Az. I have to keep reminding myself that it isn't getting hotter, and it's really only half an hour to the mountains. :-)

Yeah, the alcohol thing is a pain, but there is still good beer to be had here, and some really good breweries. Also, the law is weird. I can go to the amusement park up the road, and carry around beer if I want. Since it's private property, it's allowed. I couldn't do that in Arizona. 'Uptightness' isn't as bad as people think, so that part isn't too bad.

We did bonneville, spiral jetty, sundance(town not fest), Moab, hells backbone, Capitol reef, Bryce. Even after all of that, rolling into Zion expecting beauty fatigue, we were completely blown away. So incredible. Capitol reef is one of the most under appreciated places I've ever been. It is beautiful.

Sorry for the thread jack.


Yeah one summer(probably two), I'm gonna go full Griswold and take the family through Dinosaur, Arches, Bryce, Zion, Capitol Reef, and down to the North Rim.
 
2014-03-19 11:19:04 PM  
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2014-03-20 08:38:02 AM  
The production model will only reach 980, because of the extra weight from the airbags.
 
2014-03-20 02:57:15 PM  

aprentic: Either one is impressive but it should have a separate category.


The wheel driven speed record is a subcategory of land speed records.

The absolute land speed record is not concerned with how it is powered.

biatching that the wheel driven speed record is not the absolute land speed record is blowing my mind.

It's like complaining that a prop plane doesn't have the absolute air speed record.


And no, you cannot just have a jet plane taxi at 1000mph, that is a ludicrously stupid thing to say.
 
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