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2014-03-19 04:48:53 PM
4 votes:
I'm not sure what I hate more. HOAs, or those damn pink ribbons and the scammy Komen corporation they stand for.
2014-03-19 04:33:14 PM
4 votes:
HOA and 'own home' don't belong together in the same sentence.
2014-03-19 04:37:39 PM
3 votes:
Oh shiat there's a breast cancer now?! I had no idea!!!! Thank God for all those ribbons now we all know and can start working on a cure.
2014-03-19 07:20:31 PM
2 votes:

peacheslatour: CruJones: peacheslatour: CruJones: I have a good HOA for my house in Memphis.  They fertilize and mow and edge the yards, keep up the roads and sewers , and throw a couple parties with free booze.  Other than that I never hear from them, though they did keep the crazy purple lady across the street from painting her house a violent shade of purple, which I was also ok with.

/she has a purple car and purple lenses on her glasses
//purple flowers, purple clothes, purple door on her house
///purple slashies

I think I once worked with this woman- is her name Sharon by any chance?

I don't remember, I rent it out since I moved. She did always invite me to play penny ante poker with her friends. This is on Mud Island, if that helps.

Nope, Seattle.  She actually lived in a purple house-boat on Lake Union.  Everything she had was farking purple.


For whatever reason I hate the color purple. Still I'd rather live next to a quirky whackjob like that than some uptight twat in a perfectly manicured cookie cutter development.
2014-03-19 05:53:53 PM
2 votes:
She should just say it is a religious observation.

It is a modern sanitary version of marking the doorposts her home with the blood of a slaughtered spring lamb, to tell God not to kill anybody in her house.

lets make this a religious freedom vs. HOA fight.
2014-03-19 05:44:58 PM
2 votes:
Amendment XXVIII
Avowal to the Rights of Property of US Citizens

Henceforth, no restrictions upon an owner's home shall be enforceable if the restricting party is non-governmental organization. All signed documents of rules and restrictions required to purchase said property shall no longer be enforceable. Furthermore, any attempts by the government to remove property from a citizen for the greater good of the community, known as eminent domain, must be proven that the community has great need for the owner's land and would otherwise suffer hardship without it and not solely be for an increase in local government revenue.
2014-03-19 05:37:22 PM
2 votes:

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: What the hell kind of crap reporting is this?


mamaleche.files.wordpress.com
2014-03-19 04:52:01 PM
2 votes:
Picture of said pink ribbon inside her door
i28.photobucket.com

HOA rule on displaying things

i28.photobucket.com

The clear answer here is to just never, never live in an HOA community (unless you like that kind of thing).
2014-03-19 04:51:47 PM
2 votes:

jaylectricity: If you don't like your HOA how about you, I dunno, SHOW UP TO THE MEETINGS.

Then turn all the reasonable people against the busy-body power-freak.


Some of us have jobs. The busy bodies in charge of the HOAs I've encountered are mostly retired folks with nothing better to do. My friend's condo association was notorious for scheduling meetings during work hours with as little notice as they could get away with.
2014-03-19 04:49:37 PM
2 votes:

jaylectricity: If you don't like your HOA how about you, I dunno, SHOW UP TO THE MEETINGS.

Then turn all the reasonable people against the busy-body power-freak.


Except when the Hot New Trend is for the developer to maintain just enough financial interest in the development to dictate the HOA board
2014-03-19 04:33:26 PM
2 votes:
If you don't like your HOA how about you, I dunno, SHOW UP TO THE MEETINGS.

Then turn all the reasonable people against the busy-body power-freak.
2014-03-19 03:54:28 PM
2 votes:
one of the many reasons I won't move anywhere with a "home owner's association"
2014-03-19 03:30:40 PM
2 votes:
Bam.

Fast Forward to 0:53. Compare [shiatty] pic in story to this pic, from this listing.
2014-03-19 03:28:47 PM
2 votes:

Gecko Gingrich: There other option may be that, though it's "inside of [her] entry-way", she may share an entry-way with other tenants. It is a condo building after all.


Yeah, I'm with you and Theaetatus in my suspicions here.  Article smells of Consumerist-like levels of "not the full story."
2014-03-19 02:52:22 PM
2 votes:
This thread is worthless without pictures:
Miss Karp said she received a letter Thursday night from the association at Regent's Park in Naples demanding she take her down the pink ribbon from her wall.
"It's on the inside of my entry-way," she told the station.


Are we talking about a wall inside a house and visible through a window next to a door:
www.yourlondonplace.com

Or are we talking about a giant ribbon inside a screened-in porch:
images.familyhomeplans.com
2014-03-20 11:35:02 AM
1 votes:

PunGent: By that logic, nobody owns any houses in the 99% of the U.S. that's in towns, counties, or cities. HOA is just another layer of regs.


Note that the conversation here is not about health and safety, like letting garbage pile up in your yard so high that it harbors rodents, but about how you choose to paint your house or what you choose to hang on it (or in this case in it), none of which physically affects your neighbors.
That is the logic. When you live in a society there must be some concessions made so that you don't harm others in that society. Health departments in states, counties and cities have this mandate. HOAs have nothing to do with this idea, and are just nosy asses who seek to control others just because.
2014-03-19 08:16:53 PM
1 votes:

Treetop1000: SavageWombat: CruJones:

If I could join an HOA that would maintain my lawn for me, I'd sign up.  I don't care what color my house has to be.

right there with ya bro....however, taking that free lawn-care (well not so much free on several levels) means you also have to accept all the other little stupid bossy pricks who also live there. And they turned into the Stasi because they want things to be the way they define.  Too bad theres a prick out there right know that's got a problem with the pink ribbon. If I were the board, I'd do a fast 180 on this and even daylight the original complainer, just to get out of the way of the avalanche that's about to hit.


If you want someone to maintain your lawn, you can hire a landscaper without having to live in a mini totalitarian regime. You'd have to pay for it one way or another anyway, nothing is free.
2014-03-19 08:01:53 PM
1 votes:
When I retire, I'm going to run the shiat out of an HOA with an iron fist. My neighbors will cower before me. Trolling IRL is way better than doing it on the internet.
2014-03-19 07:55:08 PM
1 votes:

James10952001: Gunboat: This text is now purple: You're part of the problem. Hopefully you had a chance to visit your kid in the terminal cancer ward afterwards

I don't understand this comment at all.  My child doesn't have cancer.  You and I have not met.  And what do you mean by "the problem"?  If "the problem" is that I was part of an effort to stop a crazy-ass lady from having a bobcat in a yard next door to small children, then yes, I'm part of "the problem."

Is a bobcat any worse than a large dog? Statistically speaking, which animal harms more children?


A valid question, considering how equal the sample population sizes are.
2014-03-19 07:41:58 PM
1 votes:

Gecko Gingrich: James10952001: Gecko Gingrich: SquiggsIN: Can any suburban home owners explain to me what is so attractive about living in an area where every yard looks like you're in the middle of a golf course?

I'd rather let it look slightly more natural... you know birds and rabbits and deer seem to prefer it that way.

I'd guess that for some people, not having a neighbor with an yard overrun with ragweed - except for the part covered up by the mid-restoration 1974 Nova up on blocks - is a plus.

That's the thing though, nobody wants to live next to that guy. The problem is that most HOAs go WAY beyond that, and once there is no junkyard in the neighborhood and they run out of low hanging fruit, it's on to the more petty "violations".

When I bought my house, the no HOA thing was a major requirement. I keep my place fairly presentable, I don't want to deal with the HOA bullshiat my friends are always biatching about.

You asked a question. I answered it.

I, like you, chose to buy a house in a non-HOA neighborhood for the same reasons you did. However, you and I have different priorities than other folks.


I didn't ask the question, that was somebody else.

The biggest problem I see with HOAs is that they spread like cancer and it's getting harder all the time to simply choose a house without one.
2014-03-19 06:40:55 PM
1 votes:
If i found a HOA that could keep my neighbors' cats from shiatting in my yard I might find that useful.

I'm not overly anti-cat but, can any cat people explain to me why it's okay for cats to do that but dog owners can't let their dogs have the run of the neighborhood to find a toilet?
2014-03-19 06:26:05 PM
1 votes:

phenn: Homeowners Associations. The PTA for adults.

They can all chew a massive, infected member.


goddammitsomuch...
2014-03-19 06:22:31 PM
1 votes:

bmr68: It's some dlckhexd neighbor who loves enforcing HOA rules to the letter.


Larry Pike: So you two are interested in Oasis Plains.
Dean Winchester: Yes sir!
Larry Pike: Let me just say, we accept homeowners of any race, religion, color, or... sexual orientation. (Sam chuckles)
Dean Winchester: (quickly) We're brothers.
Sam Winchester: Our father is getting on in years, and we're just lookin' for a place for him.
Larry Pike: Great! Great, well, seniors are welcome too. Come on in.

thank you for adding "dick-hexed" to my vocabulary. :)
2014-03-19 06:02:20 PM
1 votes:
I live in a non-HOA area that has been seeing a big influx of HOA-loving condo dwellers. These people are successfully pressuring the city council to enact laws that appear much like HOAs. There is recourse, though: grandfathering generally protects current and continuous land use. If a person uses a property in a certain way, he may continue using it that way. Example: I can park an RV on my driveway and most every newcomer cannot.

This is not without problems. Since RVs on driveways are now so rare, code enforcement will, from time to time, attempt to compel me to remove my RV. They like to pretend there is no such thing as grandfathering too.
2014-03-19 06:02:06 PM
1 votes:
Homeowners Associations. The PTA for adults.

They can all chew a massive, infected member.
2014-03-19 05:58:41 PM
1 votes:
img.fark.net
2014-03-19 05:50:08 PM
1 votes:

Gunboat: CSB

   I was a trial lawyer in a past life.  Crazy lady had a pet bobcat, and her HOA had a "no wild animals" clause.  Crazy lady said bobcat was a "domestic" animal because it shiats in a box and eats cat food.
   HOA hired me to sue the lady.  We won at trial, but let me say that picking the jury was super-interesting, as the hatred for HOAs is palpable.
   Crazy lady put the jury verdict on appeal, and a friend of mine successfully handled it at the appellate level.  Reported opinion is here:  http://opinions.aoc.arkansas.gov/weblink8/0/doc/273262/Electronic.asp x

/csb


You're part of the problem. Hopefully you had a chance to visit your kid in the terminal cancer ward afterwards.
2014-03-19 05:35:51 PM
1 votes:

maram500: I apologize for sounding like a dick, but...she signed the Homeowners Association documents. She knew what that meant, and now she's crying foul. You cannot do this (unless of course you work for Fox News).



Do you think it was clear at the time of purchase that the HOA could regulate what she displays inside her home?  Or, maybe this is some busybody's new interpretation of a badly worded phrase buried in the middle of a very long document.
2014-03-19 05:30:28 PM
1 votes:

Theaetetus: This thread is worthless without pictures:
Miss Karp said she received a letter Thursday night from the association at Regent's Park in Naples demanding she take her down the pink ribbon from her wall.
"It's on the inside of my entry-way," she told the station.

Are we talking about a wall inside a house and visible through a window next to a door:
[www.yourlondonplace.com image 528x396]

Or are we talking about a giant ribbon inside a screened-in porch:
[images.familyhomeplans.com image 600x400]


Either way, who gives a Fark?

Actually the article suggests an appropriate solution; it says that she is "standing her ground".  Since this is Florida, if she's white she can just shoot the HOA and claim to have been "standing her ground".
2014-03-19 05:30:01 PM
1 votes:
I recall a Dave Berg comic from an old edition of Mad Magazine.


A crotchety old woman has called the police. A cop shows up at her house. She says something like, "The man next door is taking a shower without closing his blinds!" The cop looks at the house next door and says, "Lady, it's a quarter mile away. I can't see anything."


The old lady holds up a pair of binoculars and says: "You have to use THESE!"


/Or something like that.
2014-03-19 05:23:15 PM
1 votes:

Mein Fuhrer I Can Walk: II'm curious: is there anything actually stopping someone from signing these "covenants" when they move into an HOA-controlled area?

Would the developer then just refuse to sell the property to them?

Bueller?


When you buy the house you sign an agreement to be in the HOA and also agree to only sell to someone who will agree to be in the HOA.

Fun fact: This practice was invented to keep neighborhoods white.
2014-03-19 05:22:31 PM
1 votes:

Mein Fuhrer I Can Walk: II'm curious: is there anything actually stopping someone from signing these "covenants" when they move into an HOA-controlled area?

Would the developer then just refuse to sell the property to them?

Bueller?


The property comes "burdened" with the covenants.  It's like an easement for gas or water.  The new owner must take the property with the covenants.  Owner's only recourse is not to buy.
2014-03-19 05:15:00 PM
1 votes:
Well tbh I hate those stupid ribbons. All colors. They are all over the place. There's like 20 of them, and that's just for cancer.

I can't wait for the yellow cancer ribbon folks to duke it out with the yellow soldiers ribbon folks. I'm sure there's gonna be a lawsuit over that.

And as for HOAville, go on taking rights away from homeowners. Used to be SCOTUS ruled that you can't sell or trade or waive your rights away. But I guess since the KKK stopped that tactic it became legal.
2014-03-19 05:03:44 PM
1 votes:
CSB

   I was a trial lawyer in a past life.  Crazy lady had a pet bobcat, and her HOA had a "no wild animals" clause.  Crazy lady said bobcat was a "domestic" animal because it shiats in a box and eats cat food.
   HOA hired me to sue the lady.  We won at trial, but let me say that picking the jury was super-interesting, as the hatred for HOAs is palpable.
   Crazy lady put the jury verdict on appeal, and a friend of mine successfully handled it at the appellate level.  Reported opinion is here:  http://opinions.aoc.arkansas.gov/weblink8/0/doc/273262/Electronic.asp x

/csb
2014-03-19 05:00:44 PM
1 votes:

cc_rider: Picture of said pink ribbon inside her door
[i28.photobucket.com image 821x421]

HOA rule on displaying things

[i28.photobucket.com image 817x462]

The clear answer here is to just never, never live in an HOA community (unless you like that kind of thing).


There isn't much choice around here if you want a newer home. I have a rental in one and my home in another, it works for me.
2014-03-19 04:47:15 PM
1 votes:
There's not much point in putting an "awareness" ribbon somewhere inconspicuous, so by definition we can probably assume that it was actually placed in a highly noticeable position.

Then again, there's not much point to these ribbons in the first place.  It's not like anyone see it and says to themselves "Breast cancer?  What the heck are they talking about?  I better go look up this strange and mysterious disease."
2014-03-19 04:41:56 PM
1 votes:
H.
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THREAD...

/Yeeeeeesssss
2014-03-19 04:41:51 PM
1 votes:
I'm willing to bet this entryway is a common entryway shared with at least one other condo/home owner. If that's the case then the HOA is in the right; it might be indoors but it's not in her home.

That said, HOAs can eabod. The neighborhood I live in now used to have an HOA but it went belly-up years before we moved in. If it was still present we would not have even considered the house.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-03-19 04:38:14 PM
1 votes:
While I like free speech in general, the pink ribbon nonsense annoys me enough to stand back and let them censor it.
2014-03-19 03:32:33 PM
1 votes:
She should put up some awareness awareness ribbons in protest.
2014-03-19 03:21:56 PM
1 votes:
There other option may be that, though it's "inside of [her] entry-way", she may share an entry-way with other tenants. It is a condo building after all.
2014-03-19 03:19:07 PM
1 votes:
static.comicvine.com

What an unauthorized Banner might look like.
2014-03-19 03:05:25 PM
1 votes:
"I'm not offending anyone. My neighbors are all supportive of breast cancer. I don't know why they're not," she said.

Well maybe that's why they don't like your ribbon.
 
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