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2014-03-20 09:24:37 AM

Lord Thorn: flondrix: maram500: I apologize for sounding like a dick, but...she signed the Homeowners Association documents. She knew what that meant, and now she's crying foul. You cannot do this (unless of course you work for Fox News).


Do you think it was clear at the time of purchase that the HOA could regulate what she displays inside her home?  Or, maybe this is some busybody's new interpretation of a badly worded phrase buried in the middle of a very long document.

From my experience with HOAs in the legal world, I vote with flondrix. Those busybodies can find shiat that a lawyer would have to look twice to see.


Again. Not in her house. On her front porch.
 
2014-03-20 10:49:55 AM

maram500: There is a very good reason my mother hasn't done a single thing to the outside of her house in the seven years she's owned it and an equally-good reason she pays some retired guy thirty bucks each time to mow the yard every two or three weeks.


And here is the problem with HOAs. Note the text I bolded... it's not hers if she can't do what she wants with it.
 
2014-03-20 10:57:19 AM
I don't care what anybody says, I'm just glad someone is finally taking a stand against breast cancer awareness.
 
2014-03-20 11:09:53 AM

rewind2846: maram500: There is a very good reason my mother hasn't done a single thing to the outside of her house in the seven years she's owned it and an equally-good reason she pays some retired guy thirty bucks each time to mow the yard every two or three weeks.

And here is the problem with HOAs. Note the text I bolded... it's not hers if she can't do what she wants with it.


By that logic, nobody owns any houses in the 99% of the U.S. that's in towns, counties, or cities.  HOA is just another layer of regs.

We JUST had a thread about the crappy Kelo decision, after all.  And even that ignores all the local and state regulations almost every home is subject to.

And it ignores the fact that you can't do what you like with a home where the bank holds the mortgage anyway...which is, again, most of the U.S. housing stock.
 
2014-03-20 11:35:02 AM

PunGent: By that logic, nobody owns any houses in the 99% of the U.S. that's in towns, counties, or cities. HOA is just another layer of regs.


Note that the conversation here is not about health and safety, like letting garbage pile up in your yard so high that it harbors rodents, but about how you choose to paint your house or what you choose to hang on it (or in this case in it), none of which physically affects your neighbors.
That is the logic. When you live in a society there must be some concessions made so that you don't harm others in that society. Health departments in states, counties and cities have this mandate. HOAs have nothing to do with this idea, and are just nosy asses who seek to control others just because.
 
2014-03-20 12:01:49 PM
A screened in porch isn't technically inside the house. HOA are being picky dickbags but they are right.
 
2014-03-20 12:17:08 PM

Digitalstrange: A screened in porch isn't technically inside the house. HOA are being picky dickbags but they are right.


Agreed.

What about her neighbor who chooses to display a confederate flag? How about a nazi flag?

No sympathy for this lady.
 
2014-03-20 12:18:41 PM

rewind2846: Health departments in states, counties and cities have this mandate. HOAs have nothing to do with this idea, and are just nosy asses who seek to control others just because.


False.

HOAs seek to control the people who willingly agreed to the covenants of the HOA when they chose to move there.

Those rules were fine when they only applied to other people.
 
2014-03-20 01:04:20 PM

rewind2846: PunGent: By that logic, nobody owns any houses in the 99% of the U.S. that's in towns, counties, or cities. HOA is just another layer of regs.

Note that the conversation here is not about health and safety


Your state and local taxes can double, or even triple, just "because"...simple governmental greed and mismanagement will do just fine.  No "health or safety" reasons required at all.

Unless you don't think taxes impact the ability to do what one wants with one's property...

Just ask Ms. Kelo...I believe the Supreme Court told her EXACTLY what she could do with "her" house...nothing.

There are also things like historic preservation areas, which, quite legally, mimic the most stringent HOA exterior appearance requirements, but are strictly government functions, not private ones.

Whether you quit your knee-jerking against HOAs is entirely up to you.  Sure, there are bad ones...those make the news.  There's plenty of good ones.  And at the end of the day, you're basically railing against legal, voluntary organizations of people using their 6th Amendment rights.

Have fun storming the castle :)
 
2014-03-20 01:25:27 PM
The HOA president could not be contacted for comments, preferring to stay inside his unit.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-20 01:51:07 PM

rewind2846: PunGent: By that logic, nobody owns any houses in the 99% of the U.S. that's in towns, counties, or cities. HOA is just another layer of regs.

Note that the conversation here is not about health and safety, like letting garbage pile up in your yard so high that it harbors rodents, but about how you choose to paint your house or what you choose to hang on it (or in this case in it), none of which physically affects your neighbors.
That is the logic. When you live in a society there must be some concessions made so that you don't harm others in that society. Health departments in states, counties and cities have this mandate. HOAs have nothing to do with this idea, and are just nosy asses who seek to control others just because.


They seek control of others so that people who cannot afford to own a large manicured estate can feel like they live in a large manicured estate by dictating that the neighbors all match.
 
2014-03-20 03:47:49 PM

James10952001: rewind2846: PunGent: By that logic, nobody owns any houses in the 99% of the U.S. that's in towns, counties, or cities. HOA is just another layer of regs.

Note that the conversation here is not about health and safety, like letting garbage pile up in your yard so high that it harbors rodents, but about how you choose to paint your house or what you choose to hang on it (or in this case in it), none of which physically affects your neighbors.
That is the logic. When you live in a society there must be some concessions made so that you don't harm others in that society. Health departments in states, counties and cities have this mandate. HOAs have nothing to do with this idea, and are just nosy asses who seek to control others just because.

They seek control of others so that people who cannot afford to own a large manicured estate can feel like they live in a large manicured estate by dictating that the neighbors all match.


I can't speak for anyone else, but I live in my HOA because I love waking up at 5 AM on an icy, snowy morning...and hearing someone ELSE shovel me out while I roll over and go back to sleep.  Plus, no lawn mowing...the service takes care of it.  And...get this... I like my neighbors.  And I must be doing something right, because they keep re-electing me to the board...ten years running, now.

It's probably my reign of terror :)
 
2014-03-20 03:57:56 PM

wambu: The HOA president could not be contacted for comments, preferring to stay inside his unit.

[i.imgur.com image 320x240]


I wonder how many times the glass in that window has been replaced.
 
2014-03-20 05:43:28 PM

SquiggsIN: wambu: The HOA president could not be contacted for comments, preferring to stay inside his unit.

[i.imgur.com image 320x240]

I wonder how many times the glass in that window has been replaced.


Not enough. 8)
 
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