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(Mirror.co.uk)   Trying to be cool: Taking a selfie on the knee of a priceless Greco-Roman statue at an Italian art museum. Even more priceless? Shattering the leg on said statue   (mirror.co.uk) divider line 68
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2014-03-19 02:28:26 PM  
Fark headline: priceless Greco-Roman statue
Article headline: priceless Roman statue
Actual article: modern copy of a priceless Roman statue (value unespecifed)

Sure, it's still got value, but it's not going to be close to the original
 
2014-03-19 02:30:04 PM  
Actual article: modern copy of a priceless Greco-Roman statue (value unespecifed)

FTFM.  Sigh.
 
2014-03-19 02:30:34 PM  
Luckily, it was a plaster copy.
Still worth a bunch, made in the 19th century.
(I think they said?)
Still, dumbass tag is the correct choice.
The 'art student' probably thought it was a marble carving- that shouldn't break just because you sit on it... still...

Brat.
 
2014-03-19 03:02:10 PM  

TheMysticS: Luckily, it was a plaster copy.
Still worth a bunch, made in the 19th century.
(I think they said?)
Still, dumbass tag is the correct choice.
The 'art student' probably thought it was a marble carving- that shouldn't break just because you sit on it... still...


Agreed...who touches anything at a museum, much less sits on a statue? That said...

img.fark.net

The statue is plastered in graffiti. You think if it meant that much they'd actually maintain it. I could maybe see how someone would interpret that as the piece not having any importance or value, and that it was okay to get a little more hands on.

Brat.

No argument there :)
 
2014-03-19 03:38:13 PM  

vartian: The statue is plastered in graffiti. You think if it meant that much they'd actually maintain it.


This. What kind of place calls itself a museum and lets its exhibits get defaced?
 
2014-03-19 03:47:21 PM  

Dinki: vartian: The statue is plastered in graffiti. You think if it meant that much they'd actually maintain it.

This. What kind of place calls itself a museum and lets its exhibits get defaced?


That's not vandalism. It's been firmly established that graffiti is art and we should let people paint and draw whatever they want on any surface.
 
2014-03-19 03:49:01 PM  

Radak: Fark headline: priceless Greco-Roman statue
Article headline: priceless Roman statue
Actual article: modern copy of a priceless Roman statue (value unespecifed)

Sure, it's still got value, but it's not going to be close to the original


Well, modern being 19th century.
 
2014-03-19 03:50:20 PM  
www.robbiestone.nl
 
2014-03-19 03:51:26 PM  
Gli italiani devono accettare i turisti, perché sono l'unica fonte di denaro per la paese
 
2014-03-19 03:52:24 PM  
Also, I'm going to Rome for three months later this year. Hopefully I improve my Italian.
 
2014-03-19 03:53:33 PM  
Priceless

i.imgur.com


Not anymore.
 
2014-03-19 03:54:11 PM  
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/ah, the 60s, when no Greco-Roman statue was safe
 
2014-03-19 03:54:17 PM  
There's a reason why Juvenile shiat like this doesn't go down in Singapore.

4.bp.blogspot.com
... at least it doesn't happen twice.
 
2014-03-19 03:54:58 PM  

Radak: Fark headline: priceless Greco-Roman statue
Article headline: priceless Roman statue
Actual article: modern copy of a priceless Roman statue (value unespecifed)

Sure, it's still got value, but it's not going to be close to the original


Right.  So 10 years in prison instead of life.  Fair is fair.
 
2014-03-19 03:55:43 PM  

Frank N Stein: Also, I'm going to Rome for three months later this year. Hopefully I improve my Italian.


Hopefully you'll improve their Italians too.
 
2014-03-19 03:57:32 PM  
vartian:

The statue is plastered in graffiti. You think if it meant that much they'd actually maintain it. I could maybe see how someone would interpret that as the piece not having any importance or value, and that it was okay to get a little more hands on.

It's not the statue plastered with graffiti but the wood plinth upon which it sits. The museum probably didn't have enough money left over to get a good, non-graffiti'd plinth since they were swindled on the knockoff Greco-Roman statue
 
2014-03-19 03:57:44 PM  

talkertopc: Frank N Stein: Also, I'm going to Rome for three months later this year. Hopefully I improve my Italian.

Hopefully you'll improve their Italians too.


By that I'm assuming you mean give Italian girls the D, than I agree.
 
2014-03-19 03:58:10 PM  
I  am in favor of caning graffiti vandals. I also propose using a geometric progression with the common ratio of three as the basis for computing the number of strokes per repeat offenses. So, beginning with 2 strokes for a first offense, then 6 for a second, 18 for a third, then 54 for a forth, if the criminal is incorrigible. In the unlikely event of a fifth offense you pretty much just beat him or her to death with 162 strokes.
I realize that this would not be allowed under current law; I am merely stating that I am in favor of it.
 
2014-03-19 04:02:28 PM  

TheMysticS: Luckily, it was a plaster copy.
Still worth a bunch, made in the 19th century.


farm8.staticflickr.com
I can do 20 bucks.
 
2014-03-19 04:09:09 PM  

Abox: I can do 20 bucks.


How do these guys survive in the age of ebay? And the third generation is going to go out of business just because of reasons.
 
2014-03-19 04:12:29 PM  

talkertopc: Frank N Stein: Also, I'm going to Rome for three months later this year. Hopefully I improve my Italian.

Hopefully you'll improve their Italians too.


Freaking AWESOME.
 
2014-03-19 04:12:49 PM  

red5ish: Abox: I can do 20 bucks.

How do these guys survive in the age of ebay? And the third generation is going to go out of business just because of reasons.


Most people who pawn or sell things at pawn shops need the money yesterday, and in a town like Vegas I'm sure pawn shops get a LOT of business.
 
2014-03-19 04:14:54 PM  

vartian: The statue is plastered in graffiti. You think if it meant that much they'd actually maintain it. I could maybe see how someone would interpret that as the piece not having any importance or value, and that it was okay to get a little more hands on.


i1.kym-cdn.com

www.footballpictures.net
 
2014-03-19 04:20:14 PM  
Would've been nice to know whether or not the original still exists.  Wikipedia lists it as being displayed in a gallery in Munich.

it's unknown if the 'original' is really original, or a high-quality Roman copy from sometime between a possible true original's creation and the work's discovery in a moat in the 1620s.  Also, the Munich statue has undergone a lot of restoration work over the years.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barberini_Faun

So, a 19th century copy of what might itself be a copy was broken.  Don't get me wrong, that does suck, but at least it wasn't something original or irreplaceable, and no doubt it will be itself restored.
 
2014-03-19 04:27:16 PM  

vartian: TheMysticS: Luckily, it was a plaster copy.
Still worth a bunch, made in the 19th century.
(I think they said?)
Still, dumbass tag is the correct choice.
The 'art student' probably thought it was a marble carving- that shouldn't break just because you sit on it... still...

Agreed...who touches anything at a museum, much less sits on a statue? That said...

[img.fark.net image 615x409]

The statue is plastered in graffiti. You think if it meant that much they'd actually maintain it. I could maybe see how someone would interpret that as the piece not having any importance or value, and that it was okay to get a little more hands on.

Brat.

No argument there :)


This would actually make for a really cool exhibition of graffiti. I know graffiti is no longer truly graffiti if you put it in a gallery or museum, but if you are going to do it, it'd be cool to display in this manner. I'm sure it's been done before.
 
2014-03-19 04:28:10 PM  

NightSteel: So, a 19th century copy of what might itself be a copy was broken.  Don't get me wrong, that does suck, but at least it wasn't something original or irreplaceable, and no doubt it will be itself restored.


Yup, it was a plaster copy. Boo hoo. Make another plaster copy- as such, the value of this thing should be exactly as much as it costs to make a new plaster copy, 19th century or not. It's entirely replaceable, and being old doesn't inherently make something more valuable.
 
2014-03-19 04:30:12 PM  

Abox: TheMysticS: Luckily, it was a plaster copy.
Still worth a bunch, made in the 19th century.


I can do 20 bucks.


Lol.
Given the condition it's in, I'm looking to lose money on this sale. I gotta pay employees, find a space in the store. Plus, you won't have to lug it back home!
 
2014-03-19 04:30:51 PM  

red5ish: Abox: I can do 20 bucks.

How do these guys survive in the age of ebay? And the third generation is going to go out of business just because of reasons.


Probably because most of their clients are pawning their wife's wedding ring for another go at the craps table
 
2014-03-19 04:30:51 PM  

Dinki: vartian: The statue is plastered in graffiti. You think if it meant that much they'd actually maintain it.

This. What kind of place calls itself a museum and lets its exhibits get defaced?


I second that emotion.
 
2014-03-19 04:32:05 PM  
It wasn't  "priceless." It was a replica.
 
2014-03-19 04:32:43 PM  
The only solution is to completely ban selfies in Great Britain. There will be a vote in parliament tomorrow and the law will take effect on Friday.
 
2014-03-19 04:33:24 PM  

PIP_the_TROLL: There's a reason why Juvenile shiat like this doesn't go down in Singapore.


... at least it doesn't happen twice.


Kinky!
 
2014-03-19 04:36:09 PM  

Altitude5280: It wasn't  "priceless." It was a replica.


kanegilmour.com
 
Ral
2014-03-19 04:39:13 PM  
Nice graffiti. Clearly the people who own the thing take great care of it and keep it in a protected environment.  Museum, my ass.

Also, it's a plaster replica.  The originals are solid stone, not plaster.
 
2014-03-19 04:40:03 PM  

Dinki: vartian: The statue is plastered in graffiti. You think if it meant that much they'd actually maintain it.

This. What kind of place calls itself a museum and lets its exhibits get defaced?


Shia LaBoeuff.
 
2014-03-19 04:43:47 PM  

Devil's Playground: red5ish: Abox: I can do 20 bucks.

How do these guys survive in the age of ebay? And the third generation is going to go out of business just because of reasons.

Probably because most of their clients are pawning their wife's wedding ring for another go at the craps table


Vegas, baby!

For this place, though, their fame has made them even richer. They only come to the store for cool shiat, something that's pre-produced, something they can call a buddy to take a look at, etc.
(like that shifty little gun genius- I respect his devotion and knowledge, but I'm thinking it's a good thing he gets to fondle guns for a living, rather than taking out his anger of being too short to join the military)

I know someone that took a side trip there. Chumley tee shirts, Chumley coolies, Chumley bar glasses...
You wait in a super long line, can't spend a long time unless you seem to be a serious buyer, no one from the show is ever there.
All in all, avoidance was advised. Just another Vegas tourist trap.
 
2014-03-19 04:46:03 PM  

airsupport: Dinki: vartian: The statue is plastered in graffiti. You think if it meant that much they'd actually maintain it.

This. What kind of place calls itself a museum and lets its exhibits get defaced?

Shia LaBoeuff.


That's not graffiti. It's street art.
 
2014-03-19 04:55:01 PM  
 I am that clumsy and lack judgment to the same degree.
 
2014-03-19 05:20:46 PM  

Frank N Stein: Gli italiani devono accettare i turisti, perché sono l'unica fonte di denaro per la paese


è vero che il paese ha bisogno del turismo anche se non è l'unica fonte di reddito, ma in questo caso si tratta di una statua distrutta da uno studente (o una studentessa) e non da un turista. L'articolo non specifica se si tratta di uno studente straniero o Italiano, ma questo non cambia niente.  Meno male che trattandosi di une statua recente è probabile che era di poco valore.
 
2014-03-19 05:25:23 PM  

MBooda: unavailable for comment:

also (really) unavailable for comment:

/ah, the 60s, when no Greco-Roman statue was safe


What's the story behind the first pic?
 
2014-03-19 05:26:27 PM  

Dinki: vartian: The statue is plastered in graffiti. You think if it meant that much they'd actually maintain it.

This. What kind of place calls itself a museum and lets its exhibits get defaced?


By Italian standards, 19th century artifacts are recent and not worth much. In an Italian museum a 19th century copy of an old statue is a decoration not an exhibit.
 
2014-03-19 05:30:56 PM  

capt.hollister: Frank N Stein: Gli italiani devono accettare i turisti, perché sono l'unica fonte di denaro per la paese

è vero che il paese ha bisogno del turismo anche se non è l'unica fonte di reddito, ma in questo caso si tratta di una statua distrutta da uno studente (o una studentessa) e non da un turista. L'articolo non specifica se si tratta di uno studente straniero o Italiano, ma questo non cambia niente.  Meno male che trattandosi di une statua recente è probabile che era di poco valore.


Questo essendo Fark, Io non ho letto l'articolo. Benvenuto a Fark punto jpg.
 
2014-03-19 05:40:29 PM  

Frank N Stein: capt.hollister: Frank N Stein: Gli italiani devono accettare i turisti, perché sono l'unica fonte di denaro per la paese

è vero che il paese ha bisogno del turismo anche se non è l'unica fonte di reddito, ma in questo caso si tratta di una statua distrutta da uno studente (o una studentessa) e non da un turista. L'articolo non specifica se si tratta di uno studente straniero o Italiano, ma questo non cambia niente.  Meno male che trattandosi di une statua recente è probabile che era di poco valore.

Questo essendo Fark, Io non ho letto l'articolo. Benvenuto a Fark punto jpg.


Le grandi tradizioni non si deveno perdere, lol.
 
2014-03-19 05:54:20 PM  
Anyone notice the poor state of the ceiling behind the statue? Is the Milan Art Museum this bad off? Or is that decrepit state intentional?
 
2014-03-19 06:03:35 PM  

red5ish: Abox: I can do 20 bucks.

How do these guys survive in the age of ebay?


Like this
 
2014-03-19 06:04:27 PM  
Look.  Nobody thinks the Sphinx is worthless just because its nose got a little broken, right?

Glue it back together.  The statute just has some more history to it now.  As a part of the record, it is part of the provenance.

It is just exposing the integrity of the object's passage through time.

Its not like someone knocker over a rock that had been sitting on a lump of mud for thousands of years.

assets.nydailynews.com
 
2014-03-19 06:07:43 PM  
HailRobonia: It's been firmly established that graffiti is art and we should let people paint and draw whatever they want on any surface.

It strikes me that the people that make the above argument (note that the above was sarcasm) also often passionately make the argument that the 2nd Amendment means any gun, any place, any time, because freedom. And it strikes me as odd that so much subtlety can be lost on such a large group of people.
 
2014-03-19 06:30:02 PM  

capt.hollister: Dinki: vartian: The statue is plastered in graffiti. You think if it meant that much they'd actually maintain it.

This. What kind of place calls itself a museum and lets its exhibits get defaced?

By Italian standards, 19th century artifacts are recent and not worth much. In an Italian museum a 19th century copy of an old statue is a decoration not an exhibit.


Hence the grafitti.
 
2014-03-19 06:59:17 PM  
Who here HASN'T broken something valuable in Italy while doing something stupid?
 
2014-03-19 07:03:30 PM  

Frank N Stein: Also, I'm going to Rome for three months later this year. Hopefully I improve my Italian.


Good luck! Pack a Toronto Maple Leafs T-shirt; as Canada doesn't piss anyone off.

Don't eat anywhere touristy.

A lot of places will not take credit or debit.

Do visit the Vatican and St. Peter's; they are pretty breathtaking and no passport is required, as far as I remember.

If you intend to visit the colosseum; admire it from the steps of St. John Lateran on the Lateran hill. St. John's has far fewer pickpockets there.

Don't go home with Italian women; that's an easy way to find yourself in a committed relationship or to lose a kidney.

What ever you do; do not touch the artwork. They don't like that.
 
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