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(Polygon)   Sales of Guitar Hero DLC to end April 1st - Is this some kind of joke?   (polygon.com) divider line 50
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2014-03-19 02:17:56 PM  
Nope, it's the nature of music licensing and why we shouldn't accept games that only give you 50% of the experience. Just wait till years down the road too
 
2014-03-19 02:48:17 PM  

DanZero: Nope, it's the nature of music licensing and why we shouldn't accept games that only give you 50% of the experience. Just wait till years down the road too

Whoosh!

Also, they were still selling Guitar Hero DLC?
 
2014-03-19 03:03:30 PM  
I don't understand the use of the [stupid] tag. Are we implying that discontinuation of game sales is a new thing in the digital age?

/ can I still buy a new Super Mario Bros. 3 cartridge at retail somewhere?
 
2014-03-19 03:06:45 PM  

skozlaw: I don't understand the use of the [stupid] tag. Are we implying that discontinuation of game sales is a new thing in the digital age?

/ can I still buy a new Super Mario Bros. 3 cartridge at retail somewhere?


No, it's intentional. See the Weeners up there.

It's to click bait angry nerds who want to saber rattle in self righteous indignation about how 'they will never support this' and so on.

Honestly. Either shiat or get off the pot. Stop buying all games, or just accept that this is the direction they are moving and buy what doesn't suck.
 
2014-03-19 03:07:18 PM  
I think the joke is that people are still out there playing Guitar Hero.
 
2014-03-19 03:16:58 PM  

Mad_Radhu: I think the joke is that people are still out there playing Guitar Hero.


The wife and I still play Rock Band 3 once in a while. it's kind of annoying how impossible it is to find a guitar controller now.
 
2014-03-19 03:18:18 PM  

Mad_Radhu: I think the joke is that people are still out there playing Guitar Hero.


Talk about a quick fall into obscurity.  Less than 10 years ago, every bar in town was having Guitar Hero tournaments then, one day, they just all stopped.
 
2014-03-19 03:25:20 PM  
I still don't understand how exactly Guitar Hero became so unpopular so quickly.
 
2014-03-19 03:33:09 PM  

Nemo's Brother: I still don't understand how exactly Guitar Hero became so unpopular so quickly.


Strangely, I was just thinking about this the other day. It used to be a thing to get together to do, and now no one I know plays anymore.

I had a guitar for my PS2; when I traded everything in for my PS3 this Christmas (I don't like to spend a lot on gaming systems - I mainly got it for the Amazon and Netflix apps), the store wouldn't take the guitar controller. And there was really no way that I was going to buy another one for the PS3.

I wonder if it's the release of next-gen consoles and consumers' unwillingness to re-buy all the peripherals?
 
2014-03-19 03:34:48 PM  

Nemo's Brother: I still don't understand how exactly Guitar Hero became so unpopular so quickly.


Rock Band ate into the Guitar Hero player base, and then the dance games that worked without a clunky game pad stole the party game audience.
 
2014-03-19 03:40:06 PM  
cdn1.sbnation.com
Haven't played in years, so can someone explain the picture in the article to me?

is that a headless ghost playing a guitar?
 
2014-03-19 03:44:37 PM  
I think Rocksmith is way better and you play an actual guitar, which 25 years ago would have got you laid.  I don't know what gets guys laid now....having the fanciest phone?  idontwanttoliveinthisworldanymore.jpg
 
2014-03-19 03:52:31 PM  

One Thousand: is that a headless ghost playing a guitar?


yes
 
2014-03-19 03:55:43 PM  

Hunter4242: The wife and I still play Rock Band 3 once in a while. it's kind of annoying how impossible it is to find a guitar controller now.


I was just telling my wife the other day that my controllers have "turned the corner" and are now selling for more than what I paid for them, given that I had basically every single one for 360 that was released, and I keep them in great shape.

I'd like another pair of new or unused and unsealed original GH2 Gibson Explorers for 360 though. Despite all of the revisions of hardware through the years, no other controller matched the speed, key feel, strum precision, and touch response of those. Too bad they inevitably all wear out the strum bar.

Orgasmatron138: Strangely, I was just thinking about this the other day. It used to be a thing to get together to do, and now no one I know plays anymore.


It may be also that the age group that fell in love with them in high school, college or shortly thereafter has moved on. It's a game that relies heavily on a live-in-person multiplayer experience to enjoy, and when two buddies move away after college, someone else gets married and starts a serious job, and you have a kid, it's just not the same. I still play once in a while since I bought tons of songs and most of the other versions, and eventually (sooner than I realize, probably) my kid will be big enough to use the guitar and play on the easiest modes- and then I have thousands of hours of family friendly entertainment that might teach him a thing or two (with my guidance) about music and rhythm. (And also demonstrate why anything that gets airtime on pop radio these days is basically crap.)
 
2014-03-19 03:56:21 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: I think Rocksmith is way better and you play an actual guitar, which 25 years ago would have got you laid.  I don't know what gets guys laid now....having the fanciest phone?  idontwanttoliveinthisworldanymore.jpg


Fancy toys don't make you cool. Being cool makes you cool. And being cool gets you laid.
 
2014-03-19 03:58:03 PM  

Orgasmatron138: Strangely, I was just thinking about this the other day. It used to be a thing to get together to do, and now no one I know plays anymore.


it was the very definition of a fad, and a fad with nowhere to go.  Once Rock Band perfected the system, there just was nothing else to do with it and pretending to play guitar is only fun for so long.  My kids and I played the living shiat out of GH and RB, but there really was a point when the fun wasn't there anymore.  First, the drum kit vanished (no one liked drumming anyway).  Then no one would play the bass parts.  Finally, I was purchasing some DLC song for RB and I was like "you know what, I already HAVE that song, I'll just listen to it" and just like that, we never played RB or GH again.  Sold the stuff I could, trashed the stupid drums, stored the mike and went back to real games.
 
2014-03-19 03:58:46 PM  

grinding_journalist: Hunter4242: The wife and I still play Rock Band 3 once in a while. it's kind of annoying how impossible it is to find a guitar controller now.

I was just telling my wife the other day that my controllers have "turned the corner" and are now selling for more than what I paid for them, given that I had basically every single one for 360 that was released, and I keep them in great shape.

I'd like another pair of new or unused and unsealed original GH2 Gibson Explorers for 360 though. Despite all of the revisions of hardware through the years, no other controller matched the speed, key feel, strum precision, and touch response of those. Too bad they inevitably all wear out the strum bar.

Orgasmatron138: Strangely, I was just thinking about this the other day. It used to be a thing to get together to do, and now no one I know plays anymore.

It may be also that the age group that fell in love with them in high school, college or shortly thereafter has moved on. It's a game that relies heavily on a live-in-person multiplayer experience to enjoy, and when two buddies move away after college, someone else gets married and starts a serious job, and you have a kid, it's just not the same. I still play once in a while since I bought tons of songs and most of the other versions, and eventually (sooner than I realize, probably) my kid will be big enough to use the guitar and play on the easiest modes- and then I have thousands of hours of family friendly entertainment that might teach him a thing or two (with my guidance) about music and rhythm. (And also demonstrate why anything that gets airtime on pop radio these days is basically crap.)


I'm a little older than that. I was already a married adult with a job when it became popular. It was a fun thing for us and our couple friends to do once in a while, but I cannot remember the last time we did it....
 
2014-03-19 04:00:56 PM  
Rock Band was a great family game once the kids figured out some stuff.  Somewhere there is video of my son playing guitar, my 80 year old Dad on drums and my then 10 year old daughter doing Run To The Hills.  Best Confirmation Party Ever!
 
2014-03-19 04:16:19 PM  

kroonermanblack: skozlaw: I don't understand the use of the [stupid] tag. Are we implying that discontinuation of game sales is a new thing in the digital age?

/ can I still buy a new Super Mario Bros. 3 cartridge at retail somewhere?

No, it's intentional. See the Weeners up there.

It's to click bait angry nerds who want to saber rattle in self righteous indignation about how 'they will never support this' and so on.

Honestly. Either shiat or get off the pot. Stop buying all games, or just accept that this is the direction they are moving and buy what doesn't suck.


Because it isn't possible to find a happy medium right? Heaven forbid we support the ones that don't follow this model while ignoring the ones that do.
 
2014-03-19 04:16:54 PM  
I miss Guitar Hero. We put the Wii away when our son was born in 2010 but I'm sure we'll get it out and do some family play in a few years.

I'm sure something will have replaced the Wii by then. I'm not a video game guy.
 
2014-03-19 04:19:08 PM  
I haven't heard anything abouty Guitar Hero in a few years.  Didn't realize DLC was still coming out.
 
2014-03-19 04:22:15 PM  
Didn't Activision also keep releasing games really close to one another, to the point that Warriors of Rock sold very, very poorly and they just stopped caring?

Personally, I stopped playing when my son was born 2 and a half years ago, as the only time I could reasonably play was when he was sleeping, and playing pretend drums next to his room seemed like a bad idea. And then, a few months ago, I finally decided to store the drum kit and one of the wires had dried out and snapped. I still have the guitar though, and take it out for a few songs once in a while, but nowhere near enough to warrant the purchase of an eventual new game anyway.
 
2014-03-19 04:27:30 PM  
Dave Matthews still plays guitar hero.
 
2014-03-19 04:35:09 PM  
No, if it was a joke, they would have asked, "What do you do with an elephant with three balls?  Walk him and pitch to the giraffe."

/ Not obscure
 
2014-03-19 04:43:05 PM  

skozlaw: can I still buy a new Super Mario Bros. 3 cartridge at retail somewhere?


Yes -  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Mario-Bros-3-Nintendo-NES-VGA-85-Brand- N ew-Factory-Sealed-/231165121673

/I get your point
 
2014-03-19 04:48:57 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: I think Rocksmith is way better and you play an actual guitar, which 25 years ago would have got you laid.  I don't know what gets guys laid now....having the fanciest phone?  idontwanttoliveinthisworldanymore.jpg


It was never the guitar itself.
 
2014-03-19 04:57:50 PM  
I'm sorry, it's my fault.  I got Warriors of Rock for Christmas that year and they cancelled the line almost immediately afterwards.
 
2014-03-19 05:04:50 PM  

MagicBoris: Didn't Activision also keep releasing games really close to one another, to the point that Warriors of Rock sold very, very poorly and they just stopped caring?

Personally, I stopped playing when my son was born 2 and a half years ago, as the only time I could reasonably play was when he was sleeping, and playing pretend drums next to his room seemed like a bad idea. And then, a few months ago, I finally decided to store the drum kit and one of the wires had dried out and snapped. I still have the guitar though, and take it out for a few songs once in a while, but nowhere near enough to warrant the purchase of an eventual new game anyway.


Seriously.  People liked the game and the concept and would continue buying it as new kids grow up.  It's something they should have released 2 versions of every console generation with continuing hardware availability.  Not 6 versions of for one console generation and then nothing.

I'd love to be able to buy a new drum set. :/
 
2014-03-19 05:11:26 PM  

seanpg71: I'd love to be able to buy a new drum set. :/


Just keep raiding Craigslist if you need a drum kit.  It may not be available in stores, but there's so many people trying to get rid of the things that they can still be had for fairly cheap, and because many people bought them on impulse, can be had in great condition.
 
2014-03-19 05:12:38 PM  
I sure hope this frees up some licenses for Rocksmith. There are decidedly few songs that actually rock in that game.
 
2014-03-19 05:12:47 PM  
Rockband two had the ability to load rockband one games to the hard drive. I could never find the capability for three to two. Screw changing disks all the time.

It was great for post happy hour. The chicks loved to sing or play the drums.
 
2014-03-19 05:33:57 PM  
Rocksmith and Rock Band are better though.

I do like DJ Hero.
 
2014-03-19 05:37:52 PM  

Nemo's Brother: I still don't understand how exactly Guitar Hero became so unpopular so quickly.


iPhones were released? Why drop a bunch of money on controllers and the game when you can just trade Words With Friends turns with a bunch of people all night?
 
2014-03-19 05:43:10 PM  
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2014-03-19 06:04:57 PM  

McGrits: Rockband two had the ability to load rockband one games to the hard drive. I could never find the capability for three to two. Screw changing disks all the time.

It was great for post happy hour. The chicks loved to sing or play the drums.


It was there (pull RB2 songs into RB3). Apart from about 3 songs (Journey's Any-way-you-want-it being the big miss) it only cost like 5 bucks.

RB + RB2 + Lego RB can all do it, then you put in the RB3 disk and you're pushing 200-300 songs all available at once.
 
2014-03-19 06:12:08 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: I think Rocksmith is way better and you play an actual guitar, which 25 years ago would have got you laid.  I don't know what gets guys laid now....having the fanciest phone?  idontwanttoliveinthisworldanymore.jpg


I think you're supposed to instagram sepia photos of your junk to every woman on chatroulette until one is suitably impressed, then you score.
 
2014-03-19 06:13:01 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Because it isn't possible to find a happy medium right? Heaven forbid we support the ones that don't follow this model while ignoring the ones that do.


It's possible, sure.

It's just not likely.  The people ranting and raving about how 'we need to dictate the industry' are, in all likelyhood, going home and buying stuff from developers who are doing this. They may not be buying this very game they are railing against here, but I promise, unless they play NOTHING but indie titles, they are playing games doing the very thing they claim to hate.

So it's pointless saber rattling.
 
2014-03-19 06:13:05 PM  
I farking love rocksmith 2014
 
2014-03-19 06:57:20 PM  

Hunter4242: Mad_Radhu: I think the joke is that people are still out there playing Guitar Hero.

The wife and I still play Rock Band 3 once in a while. it's kind of annoying how impossible it is to find a guitar controller now.


I'm totally afraid my RB3 guitar will break.  I've logged more hours playing RB3 than any other game I've purchased and it's basically taught me how to play guitar.

Music nerds will be all, 'No you didn't learn the theory!  You are just pushing frets!' but I'll be like, 'Whatever, I'm going to play this song I like now, STFU' and that's good enough for me.
 
2014-03-19 07:30:40 PM  
I was also confused and saddened by the rapid decline of Rock Band's popularity.  I got into it too late to participate in any of the public events at its height, but my friends and I still play almost every weekend.  I used to think I'd never go higher than medium because I was not going to practice or rehearse in order to play a stupid plastic guitar, but now just from the sheer amount of playing I can play bass or drums on expert.  It's sad that they're not releasing any new DLC (RB has already stopped, I'm surprised to learn GH was still going), because it's still really fun.  It's got a pretty good library, but there are so many songs you want to be on there.  It's also really shiatty that you need a paid Xbox Live subscription to play online.
 
2014-03-19 07:33:14 PM  

thecpt: I farking love rocksmith 2014


Yeah, I've been playing it about a month now. I'm not 100% sold on it being a replacement for traditional music/guitar lessons, but it would make a superb addition to regular lessons. It certainly takes the grind out of practicing scales, chord progressions and learning string positions and fretting. I do think they could expand on the different music styles they have on the game though. There's very little or no blues, jazz, country, or numerous other styles that I'd like to learn eventually. That said, it is good for keeping track of progress to help lower the frustration where you think you aren't getting anywhere, and I do like the slow buildup method they use for teaching songs.
 
2014-03-19 07:53:09 PM  
Fark_Guy_Rob:
Music nerds will be all, 'No you didn't learn the theory!  You are just pushing frets!' but I'll be like, 'Whatever, I'm going to play this song I like now, STFU' and that's good enough for me.

Oh yeah, that was my favorite part of Fark Gutar Hero/Rockband threads. Actual musicians getting really pissed about the game, as if people actually believed they were learning guitar for real. It's not like gamers think they're really practicing hockey when playing NHL 2Ksomething or becoming martial artists by playing Street Figther, but there's something about GH/RB that got some musicians to be really defensive.
 
2014-03-19 07:59:25 PM  

skozlaw: can I still buy a new Super Mario Bros. 3 cartridge at retail somewhere?


Yes.

alpha.akihabaranews.com
 
2014-03-19 08:29:30 PM  

Eddie Ate Dynamite: I sure hope this frees up some licenses for Rocksmith. There are decidedly few songs that actually rock in that game.


Let me help you with that.
 
2014-03-19 09:50:04 PM  
guitar hero was fun until they catered to the hardcore people and put a shiatload of notes that aren't there just to make the song harder
 
2014-03-19 10:21:09 PM  
I think the biggest thing that killed the whole plastic guitar craze is cheap flat screen TVs, which introduced a noticable lag into playing.  I keep an old tube TV around just so I can play real time every now and then.
 
2014-03-19 10:31:07 PM  

quizzical: Nemo's Brother: I still don't understand how exactly Guitar Hero became so unpopular so quickly.

Rock Band ate into the Guitar Hero player base, and then the dance games that worked without a clunky game pad stole the party game audience.


Plus they were having a hard time getting good songs.
 
2014-03-19 10:35:43 PM  

sethen320: I haven't heard anything abouty Guitar Hero in a few years.  Didn't realize DLC was still coming out.


New DLC hasn't come out in a while. This is them ending being able to buy any of the old DLC.
 
2014-03-19 10:41:29 PM  

Eddie Ate Dynamite: I sure hope this frees up some licenses for Rocksmith. There are decidedly few songs that actually rock in that game.


Depends on your definition of rock. They recently released a Boston pack (including Foreplay/Long Time) and Heart's Crazy On You, which I am very happy about.

/Not that I'll ever be able to play the intro to Crazy On You
 
2014-03-20 01:39:20 AM  

Precision Boobery: I was also confused and saddened by the rapid decline of Rock Band's popularity.  I got into it too late to participate in any of the public events at its height, but my friends and I still play almost every weekend.  I used to think I'd never go higher than medium because I was not going to practice or rehearse in order to play a stupid plastic guitar, but now just from the sheer amount of playing I can play bass or drums on expert.  It's sad that they're not releasing any new DLC (RB has already stopped, I'm surprised to learn GH was still going), because it's still really fun.  It's got a pretty good library, but there are so many songs you want to be on there.  It's also really shiatty that you need a paid Xbox Live subscription to play online.


I used to play every Wed night at the local casino. They'd do karaoke for a while then switch to RB and go back and forth. It was on the stage that the real bands played on over the weekends. House sound system, 12 large screen TV background, 46" TVs as 'monitors' infront of the stage. Wireless house guitars. House sound system...

They would also put the game on the TVs around the bar so you could walk around while playing.

We would recruit some of the karaoke singers to sing for us.

It was soo much fun.

/expert bass
/expert guitar
/medium/expert drums
 
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