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2014-03-20 08:14:01 AM  

JuggleGeek: Agent Nick Fury: Hey, Old Man River, maybe you didn't notice but yearbooks are twice the size of the phonebooks you and your Old Man River classmates used to get in the "mail".

They write essays and thesis on how the world has changed (and for the better) since you old pieces of shiat died off.

They talk about the Twilight Saga, and the new guy playing Batman, and such like that.

You don't get it, old man.

You are correct that I don't get it.  That's why I'm asking.  You could answer the question, which you haven't done, or you could be an asshole.  Apparently, you prefer the asshole route.  That's fine, I can treat you like an asshole.

I called a friend of mine who teaches high school in Dallas at Lake Highlands HS and asked her.  She doesn't know anything about this either.  She says that the kids don't write essays or stories or paragraphs or anything similar to be printed in the yearbooks.  She asked me if I was talking about the notes they write to a friend when they sign the yearbook, but that's not what this is.

She's been teaching for 20+ years.  She still teaches in Dallas, so her info isn't outdated. Yes, I'm old, but not all schools are doing this.

Yes, I'm old.  And yes, you're an asshole with no experience outside of your school.  You can go back to sucking cock and acting like be young and stupid makes you better than everyone else.  You've convinced me that asking isn't worth the trouble.


Read his post again, I think the Agent was agreeing with you. Your difficulty in detecting satire is pretty weak unless you really think yearbooks are the size of phone books with essays on the Twilight Saga.
 
2014-03-20 09:01:15 AM  
I'm sure even without seeing TFA the most sexual content of the kid's entry is "I'm gay", and the rest of it is droning on about how happy he is that his school years weren't turned into a living hell for admitting it. That's not even promoting, it's saying more about the OTHER students than himself.

The point of his blurb is not "I'm a barely-legal cum dumpster that'll do anything so call me."
 
2014-03-20 11:19:49 AM  
This is a long thread. A contentious thread. A thread full of outraged fudge packers, and allies of fudge packers,  It is a thread that will not solve a thing but identify a majority of Farkers as people who would jump over a mile of p*ssy to get to one asshole. This so-called gay kid has been raised by a overbearing, man hating, single mother who claimed two days ago in a local paper that she knew her son was gay since the day he was born. Well I guess she was so convinced of this she managed to convince him too. The kid is alright and his peers, and the community at large, doesn't care much about his sexual orientation. There are homosexuals that live quietly and are accepted by this community of a little over 5000. They just don't approve of this 17 year old kid standing on top of the County courthouse and shouting it out, while banging on cymbals as he does so. That is pretty much what he is doing. There is such a thing as decorum down here in the small town south. Up north not so much. We urge you to keep your bad manners up there.
 
2014-03-20 12:07:06 PM  
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2014-03-20 03:48:31 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: EdNortonsTwin: Does the attention-whore, or the precious-snowflake meme apply to GLBT?

Between the yearbook and the St.Patrick's parades I'm going to have to lean toward YES.

Yep, wanting to be treated equally equals being an attention whore. Maybe you shouldn't be allowed to march in the st Patricks day parade either.


If I insisted upon bringing a proud to be straight flag (figurative) to wave in everyones face and was disallowed, that would not be an unreasonable.
 
2014-03-20 03:59:29 PM  

EdNortonsTwin: If I insisted upon bringing a proud to be straight flag (figurative)


Nice strawman.

Do you have evidence that they were bringing any such thing other then a banner the said "Gay Irish Veterans"?
 
2014-03-20 04:16:04 PM  

snarfyboy: EdNortonsTwin: If I insisted upon bringing a proud to be straight flag (figurative)

Nice strawman.

Do you have evidence that they were bringing any such thing other then a banner the said "Gay Irish Veterans"?


Other than?  No, but the Gay Irish Vet banner = look at me I'm a gay attention whore.

Is there a Straight Irish Veterans banner flying in the parade?
 
2014-03-20 04:31:20 PM  

EdNortonsTwin: Other than?  No, but the Gay Irish Vet banner = look at me I'm a gay attention whore.


So the banners that say "Irish Catholics"  Aare Catholic attention whores, amiright?

So the "Irish Women's League" Are women attention whores, amiright?

So the "NYC Police department" are attention whores?

Seem like you chose only one thing there to call people attention whores.  I wonder why?
 
2014-03-20 04:45:34 PM  

snarfyboy: EdNortonsTwin: Other than?  No, but the Gay Irish Vet banner = look at me I'm a gay attention whore.

So the banners that say "Irish Catholics"  Aare Catholic attention whores, amiright?

So the "Irish Women's League" Are women attention whores, amiright?

So the "NYC Police department" are attention whores?

Seem like you chose only one thing there to call people attention whores.  I wonder why?



If any of those groups banners said "Straight" or "Gay" as a part of their group title then I would say they are being attention whores.

Attention whoring about sexual-preference should have no place in a St.Patricks day parade or a school yearbook.

Hurray equality!
 
2014-03-20 04:53:22 PM  

dj_bigbird: Something about Barbara Streissand Donna Summer applies here.

 
2014-03-20 04:53:22 PM  

EdNortonsTwin: If any of those groups banners said "Straight" or "Gay" as a part of their group title then I would say they are being attention whores.


So you would agree that all married couples should be banned from marching then, correct?

You agree that Yearbooks should not include pictures from the prom dance or contests like cuteest couple or most likely to get married.

Right?  Where is you indignation about this attention whoring?
 
2014-03-20 06:13:49 PM  

snarfyboy: EdNortonsTwin: If any of those groups banners said "Straight" or "Gay" as a part of their group title then I would say they are being attention whores.

So you would agree that all married couples should be banned from marching then, correct?

You agree that Yearbooks should not include pictures from the prom dance or contests like cuteest couple or most likely to get married.


 Right?  Where is you indignation about this attention whoring?

Wrong, wrong, and wrong.  I don't see specific sexual orientation attention whoring in your examples.


I know you probably think I'm opposed to gay equality, and try as you might to paint me in to a picture of such - you won't.  There's no indignation to be found here except maybe from you.

I don't beleive, and you will find straight and gay who agree, that having a specific sexual-orientation cinderalla story doesn't belong in a kids yearbook and there doesn't need to be a gay or straight specific banners in a St.P parade.


Snarfy, can you just go-ahead and put gay militant in your profile?
 
2014-03-20 06:29:44 PM  

EdNortonsTwin: Wrong, wrong, and wrong.  I don't see specific sexual orientation attention whoring in your examples.


It's specific to whomever it is.  A man with a wife is asserting his straightness and that that is the woman he farks.

EdNortonsTwin: I know you probably think I'm opposed to gay equality, and try as you might to paint me in to a picture of such - you won't.  There's no indignation to be found here except maybe from you.


I've heard this speech many times before.  But your words are far more telling than your claims.

EdNortonsTwin: I don't beleive, and you will find straight and gay who agree, that having a specific sexual-orientation cinderalla story doesn't belong in a kids yearbook and there doesn't need to be a gay or straight specific banners in a St.P parade.


I have the advantage of knowing many, many many straight and gay people and I can tell you that virtually no gay person would say that, and the only straight ones that do are homophobic.

EdNortonsTwin: Snarfy, can you just go-ahead and put gay militant in your profile?


Sure, will you put homophobe that pretends he isn't in yours?
 
2014-03-20 07:01:03 PM  

snarfyboy: EdNortonsTwin: Wrong, wrong, and wrong.  I don't see specific sexual orientation attention whoring in your examples.

   It's specific to whomever it is.  A man with a wife is asserting his straightness and that that is the woman he farks.
       - WTF?  Are you Sigmund Freud reincarnate and everything is about sexuality?    When  see a couple sitting or walking together I don't think "they

 fark", or "he's asserting his sexuality".  Is that what you see?  What's going on with you, were you traumatized?

EdNortonsTwin: I know you probably think I'm opposed to gay equality, and try as you might to paint me in to a picture of such - you won't.  There's no indignation to be found here except maybe from you.

I've heard this speech many times before.  But your words are far more telling than your claims.

  -I'm sorry if you've been hurt by less tollerant people.

EdNortonsTwin: I don't beleive, and you will find straight and gay who agree, that having a specific sexual-orientation cinderalla story doesn't belong in a kids yearbook and there doesn't need to be a gay or straight specific banners in a St.P parade.

I have the advantage of knowing many, many many straight and gay people and I can tell you that virtually no gay person would say that, and the only straight ones that do are homophobic.


-I read St.Patty's post yesterday from someone who claims to be gay that stated otherwise.Give it a look.

EdNortonsTwin: Snarfy, can you just go-ahead and put gay militant in your profile?

Sure, will you put homophobe that pretends he isn't in yours?


- Because I don't think we need to announce and wave a banner regarding our various sexual orientations, in a high school year book, and a St.P parade I'm a homophobe?  Ok, and you can put that you hate breeders and pretend you don't on a t-shirt because that's really the next step in your escalation.

I'm sorry if you were traumatized about being gay, Snarfy.  The gay cause doesn't revolve around your victimhood.

So, who hurt you?
 
2014-03-20 07:27:12 PM  

EdNortonsTwin: - WTF?  Are you Sigmund Freud reincarnate and everything is about sexuality?    When  see a couple sitting or walking together I don't think "they

 fark", or "he's asserting his sexuality".  Is that what you see?  What's going on with you, were you traumatized?


Nope.  I am pointing out how ridiculous it is to think something like that, just as it is when someone say's "I'm gay."  If someone saying something like that immediately turns your thoughts to sex, that's your problem.

EdNortonsTwin: -I'm sorry if you've been hurt by less tollerant people.


I have a thick shell.  But yeah.  They often sound like you.

EdNortonsTwin: -I read St.Patty's post yesterday from someone who claims to be gay that stated otherwise.Give it a look.


I might, if you provided a link.  But you didn't and as you say, they only claim to to be gay.  Besides, I said virtually, not literally.  There's a difference.

EdNortonsTwin: - Because I don't think we need to announce and wave a banner regarding our various sexual orientations, in a high school year book, and a St.P parade I'm a homophobe?  Ok, and you can put that you hate breeders and pretend you don't on a t-shirt because that's really the next step in your escalation.


Yes, actually.  If you are okay with people parading their heterosuxal activities, then you should have no problem with a gay person.  That makes you a homophobe.  that fact that you can't even tell that you are doing it makes it even more so.

EdNortonsTwin: I'm sorry if you were traumatized about being gay, Snarfy.  The gay cause doesn't revolve around your victimhood.

So, who hurt you?


People like you.  People that want us kept in the closet.  People that call us militant and attention whores for being who were are.  You.
 
2014-03-20 07:56:25 PM  
snarfyboy:

Yes, actually.  If you are okay with people parading their heterosuxal activities, then you should have no problem with a gay person.  That makes you a homophobe.  that fact that you can't even tell that you are doing it makes it even more so.

Serious question - I have a lot of friends gay and straight, and I have never heard the term "homophobe" thrown around as much as I do on Fark. What, in your opinion, is a homophobe? Is it based on tolerance of other peoples actions or is it based on acceptance of other peoples thoughts?
 
2014-03-20 08:00:45 PM  

Agatha Crispy: Serious question - I have a lot of friends gay and straight, and I have never heard the term "homophobe" thrown around as much as I do on Fark. What, in your opinion, is a homophobe? Is it based on tolerance of other peoples actions or is it based on acceptance of other peoples thoughts?


It is essentially the equivalent of racist.  It's not my favorite word from an etymological standpoint, but it's the one that stuck.  I usually prefer the clunkier "anti-gay" but since we were going for hyperbole with the "militant gay" bit, I thought I would return in kind.
 
2014-03-20 08:13:25 PM  

snarfyboy: Agatha Crispy: Serious question - I have a lot of friends gay and straight, and I have never heard the term "homophobe" thrown around as much as I do on Fark. What, in your opinion, is a homophobe? Is it based on tolerance of other peoples actions or is it based on acceptance of other peoples thoughts?

It is essentially the equivalent of racist.  It's not my favorite word from an etymological standpoint, but it's the one that stuck.  I usually prefer the clunkier "anti-gay" but since we were going for hyperbole with the "militant gay" bit, I thought I would return in kind.


I know homophobe is the equivalent of racist and both are thrown around Fark with equal anonymity. My question was the difference between someone persecuting someone for their sexual preference as opposed to someone who disagrees that the sexual preference stated is normal. No where did I read where EdNortonsTwin said homosexuals should be persecuted for their sexual preference. You brought up people "parading their heterosexuality" but nowhere in the posted article did it say that he wasn't allowed to be photographed with his same sex date or was denied entrance to the school dance with his same sex date. If you could explain your agitation maybe you could educate others on how gays feel marginalized.
 
2014-03-20 08:24:24 PM  

Agatha Crispy: You brought up people "parading their heterosexuality" but nowhere in the posted article did it say that he wasn't allowed to be photographed with his same sex date or was denied entrance to the school dance with his same sex date. If you could explain your agitation maybe you could educate others on how gays feel marginalized.


It's rather simple.  We grow up in a world where 90% of the people are straight.  There is no need to pronounce ones heterosexuality because it permeates the culture.  When you are on the outside looking in you can see the difference.  You are made aware of your differences, especially in High School when hormones are raging and people start dating.  If you don't think that every boy and girl holding hands or dancing isn't a screaming declaration of heterosexuality to a gay teen, you'd be wrong.  Just because they don't say "I'm straight" doesn't mean it isn't there.

You appear to be playing a game of semantics.  I am talking about people and who they are.  And I would take good money that you would not get same-sex dancing in that yearbook either.
 
2014-03-20 08:33:22 PM  

snarfyboy: Agatha Crispy: You brought up people "parading their heterosexuality" but nowhere in the posted article did it say that he wasn't allowed to be photographed with his same sex date or was denied entrance to the school dance with his same sex date. If you could explain your agitation maybe you could educate others on how gays feel marginalized.

It's rather simple.  We grow up in a world where 90% of the people are straight.  There is no need to pronounce ones heterosexuality because it permeates the culture.  When you are on the outside looking in you can see the difference.  You are made aware of your differences, especially in High School when hormones are raging and people start dating.  If you don't think that every boy and girl holding hands or dancing isn't a screaming declaration of heterosexuality to a gay teen, you'd be wrong.  Just because they don't say "I'm straight" doesn't mean it isn't there.

You appear to be playing a game of semantics.  I am talking about people and who they are.  And I would take good money that you would not get same-sex dancing in that yearbook either.


And you would be wrong. Google Portuguese gay rights or Jose Socrates. I was the Minister of Female Sports the last two years. We have one of the most pro-gay legislation in the world. But we never attack people who do not agree. You seem to have gone through a lot and felt a lot of hurt because of it but it's no excuse to lash out at those who don't agree. Save your anger for those who mean you physical or monetary harm, not those who just disagree if being gay is normal or not. It doesn't matter what they think - you know who you are.
 
2014-03-20 08:40:07 PM  

Agatha Crispy: And you would be wrong. Google Portuguese gay rights or Jose Socrates. I was the Minister of Female Sports the last two years. We have one of the most pro-gay legislation in the world. But we never attack people who do not agree. You seem to have gone through a lot and felt a lot of hurt because of it but it's no excuse to lash out at those who don't agree. Save your anger for those who mean you physical or monetary harm, not those who just disagree if being gay is normal or not. It doesn't matter what they think - you know who you are.


I'm just an uppity gay, right?  No, I will spare everyone harm of any kind.  Little or small.  "An injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

You think it's okay to withhold gay groups from events that others are allowed to go to?  You think that this school is right to tell this kid his story can't be heard?

Did you also think it was okay to force blacks to use different drinking fountains?  After all their was no monetary or physical harm there....
 
2014-03-20 08:54:01 PM  

snarfyboy: Agatha Crispy: And you would be wrong. Google Portuguese gay rights or Jose Socrates. I was the Minister of Female Sports the last two years. We have one of the most pro-gay legislation in the world. But we never attack people who do not agree. You seem to have gone through a lot and felt a lot of hurt because of it but it's no excuse to lash out at those who don't agree. Save your anger for those who mean you physical or monetary harm, not those who just disagree if being gay is normal or not. It doesn't matter what they think - you know who you are.

I'm just an uppity gay, right?  No, I will spare everyone harm of any kind.  Little or small.  "An injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

You think it's okay to withhold gay groups from events that others are allowed to go to?  You think that this school is right to tell this kid his story can't be heard?

Did you also think it was okay to force blacks to use different drinking fountains?  After all their was no monetary or physical harm there....


Show me the "heterosexual only" fountain and you may be on to something. I'm beginning to think either you're not gay or you are fifteen years old - which one is it? You are equating the travails of people persecuted because their skin was black, something they couldn't hide, who were openly lynched and denied housing with a teenager who can't have their coming of age story printed in their high school yearbook? The article says eight stories weren't published - what were the other seven? Or don't you care? Seriously, you are either a misguided child and, if so I wish you only happiness, or a troll, in which case your a fifty year old fat progressive who will die soon anyway so no sweat off my back.
 
2014-03-20 09:00:31 PM  
Never mind. Just got a Google message which I usually wouldn't talk about but people like you set back gay rights in America more than you know. You're Farkied as such and can go crawl back under your rock.
 
2014-03-20 09:02:45 PM  

Agatha Crispy: Show me the "heterosexual only" fountain and you may be on to something.


You didn't answer my question.  What is the harm that was done with those drinking fountains.  According to you, it's not a problem if it isn't monetary or physical harm.  Clearly you do see something wrong with this, so what is it?

Agatha Crispy: You are equating the travails of people persecuted because their skin was black, something they couldn't hide, who were openly lynched and denied housing with a teenager who can't have their coming of age story printed in their high school yearbook?


You think gay people have not been lynched?  It is still legal to deny housing to gay people in most states as well.  So yes.  Apparently you missed my quote from Dr. Martin Luther King up there.  Perhaps you should go back and consider it.  And then realize that Corretta Scott King used it to describe why the black community cannot ignore the plight of the gay community.

Agatha Crispy: The article says eight stories weren't published - what were the other seven?


It doesn't matter.  The school made it clear that it was because it was about being gay.

Agatha Crispy: if so I wish you only happiness, or a troll, in which case your a fifty year old fat progressive who will die soon anyway so no sweat off my back.


... and now we see what a real charmer you are.
 
2014-03-20 09:07:33 PM  

snarfyboy: Agatha Crispy: Show me the "heterosexual only" fountain and you may be on to something.

You didn't answer my question.  What is the harm that was done with those drinking fountains.  According to you, it's not a problem if it isn't monetary or physical harm.  Clearly you do see something wrong with this, so what is it?

Agatha Crispy: You are equating the travails of people persecuted because their skin was black, something they couldn't hide, who were openly lynched and denied housing with a teenager who can't have their coming of age story printed in their high school yearbook?

You think gay people have not been lynched?  It is still legal to deny housing to gay people in most states as well.  So yes.  Apparently you missed my quote from Dr. Martin Luther King up there.  Perhaps you should go back and consider it.  And then realize that Corretta Scott King used it to describe why the black community cannot ignore the plight of the gay community.

Agatha Crispy: The article says eight stories weren't published - what were the other seven?

It doesn't matter.  The school made it clear that it was because it was about being gay.

Agatha Crispy: if so I wish you only happiness, or a troll, in which case your a fifty year old fat progressive who will die soon anyway so no sweat off my back.

... and now we see what a real charmer you are.


As mentioned above, Google Chat messaged me - I guess it's against Fark rules to expose but...you've been exposed. You are a sorry excuse for a person to do this and if I'm banned, I'm banned. It's worth it.
 
2014-03-20 09:09:21 PM  

Agatha Crispy: As mentioned above, Google Chat messaged me - I guess it's against Fark rules to expose but...you've been exposed. You are a sorry excuse for a person to do this and if I'm banned, I'm banned. It's worth it.


Exposed as what?  If you are getting chats from someone claiming to be me, it isn't me. The only other thing I am doing right now is work.
 
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