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2014-03-19 05:25:29 PM  

letrole: hardinparamedic: Race and sexual preference are both inborn traits that are unchangeable by psychiatric, religious, or medical treatments.

Homosexuality is a Learned Behaviour. The instinct for sex involves thrusting and groping and kissing and so forth. If you get horny at the sight of a naked man, or if you get horny at the sight of a naked woman, it is only because you have been taught to make that association.

Bushmen don't have any more interest in female breasts than they do in elbows. The Western fascination with breasts is not instinctive. Certain deviants find stinky feet to be objects of desire. There is very little 'hard-wiring' involved in sexual attraction. You grope and fondle and kiss with whatever you've been taught to be appropriate.


I've graduated from high school and two different colleges. None of them offered Homosexuality 101. Am I just going to the wrong schools?
 
2014-03-19 05:25:58 PM  
Too bad they don't have some kind of book that informs their morality.  Too bad, all they got stuck with is the Bible.
 
2014-03-19 05:26:04 PM  

letrole: Homosexuality is a Learned Behaviour. The instinct for sex involves thrusting and groping and kissing and so forth. If you get horny at the sight of a naked man, or if you get horny at the sight of a naked woman, it is only because you have been taught to make that association.


Bullshiat.
 
2014-03-19 05:26:50 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Sex is taboo in our society.


It's not about sex. If you can't grasp that much, there's not much point continuing this debate. Also....no. False. It's taboo among social conservatives, not that that's relevant because it's NOT ABOUT SEX.

/have a nice day
 
2014-03-19 05:27:05 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: It's okay to be gay, I just don't want to see any of your disgusting lifestyle choice. Stop liking things I say I don't like!


See, if you had just said that, it would have saved you a lot of time in this thread.
 
2014-03-19 05:27:18 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Sex is taboo. So even though I support being gay, I don't support it in yearbooks.


So, are you not OK with the standard photos of high school sweethearts and captions with quotes about how much they love each other, etc.? Or the jokes that all HS yearbooks have about well-known couples making out in study hall, etc.? The little paragraphs under the seniors' portraits where they talk about how the plan to marry their longtime boyfriend or girlfriend? They out, too?
 
2014-03-19 05:28:08 PM  

impaler: WanPhat: No, the equivalence is valid.

Not sure having a yearbook where kids talk about who they want to have sex with is such a good idea.

You can be gay your entire life without every having sex

What fuking part of that statement can't you morons get?


So wanting to have sex is the same as having sex and being hetero- or homosexual is not about who you want to have sex with?  Didn't know that.  I guess I am a moron.
 
2014-03-19 05:28:27 PM  

someonelse: Fark_Guy_Rob: Sex is taboo. So even though I support being gay, I don't support it in yearbooks.

So, are you not OK with the standard photos of high school sweethearts and captions with quotes about how much they love each other, etc.? Or the jokes that all HS yearbooks have about well-known couples making out in study hall, etc.? The little paragraphs under the seniors' portraits where they talk about how the plan to marry their longtime boyfriend or girlfriend? They out, too?


No because, from what I've gathered, heterosexual love is about emotional connections so family friendly, homosexuality is all about the penis.
 
2014-03-19 05:28:52 PM  
So nobody here knows exactly what was asked to be left out.

Where in the story did it say they banned the picture of this gay young man and his prom date - it doesn't.

How can Arkansas be such a backward piece of intolerance that you were so glad to leave if the story indicates the majority of students support this gay young man - were these students bussed in from another, more accepting area?
 
2014-03-19 05:29:29 PM  

Serious Black: I've graduated from high school and two different colleges. None of them offered Homosexuality 101. Am I just going to the wrong schools?


impaler: Bullshiat.


People still don't have The Surname on ignore?
 
2014-03-19 05:30:29 PM  

Agent Nick Fury: How can Arkansas be such a backward piece of intolerance that you were so glad to leave if the story indicates the majority of students support this gay young man - were these students bussed in from another, more accepting area?


Probably because while those 35 and under in the United States tend to be supportive or even openly endorse the rights of LGBT individuals in the United States, those above 35 as a rule tend to be against it.
 
2014-03-19 05:31:55 PM  

hardinparamedic: Serious Black: I've graduated from high school and two different colleges. None of them offered Homosexuality 101. Am I just going to the wrong schools?

impaler: Bullshiat.

People still don't have The Surname on ignore?


I have nobody on my ignore list. I have several hundred people colored in orange, but I do not ignore them. The only person I've blocked on my Facebook account is someone who literally stole about $3,000 in cash and other tangible goods from me.
 
2014-03-19 05:33:46 PM  

JuggleGeek: Apparently school yearbooks have changed a lot.  We didn't write "our story" in the yearbook when I was young.  I can't even envision how this would work.  I don't have any idea of what kind of "story" most people tell to compare his "I'm coming out as gay" story to it.


This really isn't hard to fathom if your brain didn't calcify during the Eisenhower era. Students write a little something about themselves and their HS experience. It's not that hard to wrap your head around. These aren't toddlers we're talking about, they're young adults. Just a stone's throw from being able to serve in the military. A "coming out as gay" essay is nothing shocking. Not to this generation.
 
2014-03-19 05:34:03 PM  
Homosexuality is the Voldemort of Arkansas..?
 
2014-03-19 05:34:22 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Your coming out has nothing to do with school. I don't care if you made it with your first girl, boy, dog, or cat. Your sexual orientation doesn't belong in a yearbook. Stop pushing your agenda.


Not like it's a major part of his life that will define ridiculous amounts of his interactions with other people or anything.
 
2014-03-19 05:34:31 PM  
Agent Nick Fury:

How can Arkansas be such a backward piece of intolerance that you were so glad to leave if the story indicates the majority of students support this gay young man - were these students bussed in from another, more accepting area?

Must be, because everyone in a state is exactly the same.  People should not be judged by their sexuality, they should be judged by what state they live in.
 
2014-03-19 05:36:27 PM  

hardinparamedic: Agent Nick Fury: How can Arkansas be such a backward piece of intolerance that you were so glad to leave if the story indicates the majority of students support this gay young man - were these students bussed in from another, more accepting area?

Probably because while those 35 and under in the United States tend to be supportive or even openly endorse the rights of LGBT individuals in the United States, those above 35 as a rule tend to be against it.


But how, in these Bible reading only teabagger schools in Arkansas and rural Indiana, are students, who have parents who are Bible toting teabaggers, ever exposed to the gay community?
 
2014-03-19 05:38:04 PM  

Agent Nick Fury: hardinparamedic: Agent Nick Fury: How can Arkansas be such a backward piece of intolerance that you were so glad to leave if the story indicates the majority of students support this gay young man - were these students bussed in from another, more accepting area?

Probably because while those 35 and under in the United States tend to be supportive or even openly endorse the rights of LGBT individuals in the United States, those above 35 as a rule tend to be against it.

But how, in these Bible reading only teabagger schools in Arkansas and rural Indiana, are students, who have parents who are Bible toting teabaggers, ever exposed to the gay community?


You're asking that question on the internet, genius. I hereby demand your resignation from S.H.I.E.L.D., as you're clearly not clever enough for the job.
 
2014-03-19 05:38:16 PM  

someonelse: JuggleGeek: Apparently school yearbooks have changed a lot.  We didn't write "our story" in the yearbook when I was young.  I can't even envision how this would work.  I don't have any idea of what kind of "story" most people tell to compare his "I'm coming out as gay" story to it.

This really isn't hard to fathom if your brain didn't calcify during the Eisenhower era. Students write a little something about themselves and their HS experience. It's not that hard to wrap your head around. These aren't toddlers we're talking about, they're young adults. Just a stone's throw from being able to serve in the military. A "coming out as gay" essay is nothing shocking. Not to this generation.


Yearbooks I've read:  My wife and I graduated in the 80s, our nieces and nephews in the 90s, and our kids in the 00s and 10s.  Big and small schools, five different states.  None had students write anything about their high school experience.  Maybe these were all the exception, but I'd never seen the personal essay thing.
 
2014-03-19 05:38:38 PM  

someonelse: Fark_Guy_Rob: Sex is taboo. So even though I support being gay, I don't support it in yearbooks.

So, are you not OK with the standard photos of high school sweethearts and captions with quotes about how much they love each other, etc.? Or the jokes that all HS yearbooks have about well-known couples making out in study hall, etc.? The little paragraphs under the seniors' portraits where they talk about how the plan to marry their longtime boyfriend or girlfriend? They out, too?


What kind of farking school did you go to, Cletus?
 
2014-03-19 05:40:09 PM  
Agent Nick Fury:

But how, in these Bible reading only teabagger schools in Arkansas and rural Indiana, are students, who have parents who are Bible toting teabaggers, ever exposed to the gay community?

Sure glad you don't stereotype or judge people like those intolerant people.
 
2014-03-19 05:40:24 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: Agent Nick Fury: hardinparamedic: Agent Nick Fury: How can Arkansas be such a backward piece of intolerance that you were so glad to leave if the story indicates the majority of students support this gay young man - were these students bussed in from another, more accepting area?

Probably because while those 35 and under in the United States tend to be supportive or even openly endorse the rights of LGBT individuals in the United States, those above 35 as a rule tend to be against it.

But how, in these Bible reading only teabagger schools in Arkansas and rural Indiana, are students, who have parents who are Bible toting teabaggers, ever exposed to the gay community?

You're asking that question on the internet, genius. I hereby demand your resignation from S.H.I.E.L.D., as you're clearly not clever enough for the job.


So these young people, all pro-life, second amendment, Bible readers suddenly change their entire world views because they read stories about gay people on the internet?

Okay.
 
2014-03-19 05:41:45 PM  

WanPhat: Agent Nick Fury:

But how, in these Bible reading only teabagger schools in Arkansas and rural Indiana, are students, who have parents who are Bible toting teabaggers, ever exposed to the gay community?

Sure glad you don't stereotype or judge people like those intolerant people.


You know if the FarkLiberals are the Avengers, you're the Wasp.

Go pester someone else.
 
2014-03-19 05:42:24 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: "Coming Out" is so stupid.

Do other people announce "I cannot lie any more. I love P**sy!"


What amazes me most is that, after all this time, there are people still making these same, idiotic comments and asking the same, no-comparison questions.

We'll try again, though, just in case you're one of the 4400:

You cannot "come out" as the status quo. You cannot "come out" as what everyone pretty much expected you to be. When you are the norm, you cannot "come out".

How farking hard is that to figure out?
 
2014-03-19 05:45:40 PM  

Agent Nick Fury: So these young people, all pro-life, second amendment, Bible readers suddenly change their entire world views because they read stories about gay people on the internet?


Who said every Arkansan fits your ridiculous stereotype? You could go to CPAC and find a more diverse group than your silly broad-brush caricature.

/you sold old as dirt
 
2014-03-19 05:50:51 PM  
UrukHaiGuyz:

/you sold old as dirt

/can but for to
 
2014-03-19 05:58:41 PM  

someonelse: Fark_Guy_Rob: Sex is taboo. So even though I support being gay, I don't support it in yearbooks.

So, are you not OK with the standard photos of high school sweethearts and captions with quotes about how much they love each other, etc.? Or the jokes that all HS yearbooks have about well-known couples making out in study hall, etc.? The little paragraphs under the seniors' portraits where they talk about how the plan to marry their longtime boyfriend or girlfriend? They out, too?


In all honesty, my yearbook had none of those things.  Pictures of couples in the hallways?  Yes.  Pictures of them making out?  No.  Jokes about specific people making out?  Absolutely not.  A generic joke that, sometimes, some students, made out behind the bleachers - MAYBE, but just one passing reference.

And yes, I'm totally cool with the already highly censored senior quotes being censored.  We couldn't name anyone else - which makes a ton of sense to me.  I don't know anyone who used their quote to say, 'I love my Boyfriend' or 'I love my Girlfriend' - but I'd be totally fine with censoring it or leaving it in.

You can love your best friend.  You can love your family.  It doesn't have to be sexual expression.  Boyfriend/Girlfriend doesn't explicitly have to mean someone you are romantically involved with.  And, my having a girlfriend doesn't mean I'm gay or straight....it just means I have a girlfriend.

In any case, I'd support it or disallow it for everyone on the same merits, regardless of sexual orientation.
But a story about a guy who learned he liked to cross dress or the girl who learned she liked other girls or chick who had a foursome and then was nervous about being called a whore or the guy who learned he was gay.....meh - I don't see it as yearbook appropriate.
 
2014-03-19 06:02:01 PM  

hardinparamedic: Fark_Guy_Rob: It's okay to be gay, I just don't want to see any of your disgusting lifestyle choice. Stop liking things I say I don't like!

See, if you had just said that, it would have saved you a lot of time in this thread.


Except that it's totally wrong.  I'm a big fan of all sorts of sex.  I'm about as open minded about sex as a person can be.
 
2014-03-19 06:04:15 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: Fark_Guy_Rob: Sex is taboo in our society.

It's not about sex. If you can't grasp that much, there's not much point continuing this debate. Also....no. False. It's taboo among social conservatives, not that that's relevant because it's NOT ABOUT SEX.

/have a nice day


Please explain to me how someone's SEXUAL identify is not about sex.

What do you think it means to be gay or straight or lesbian or bisexual?  Those are SEXUAL PREFERENCES.  It conveys what things you like to have sex with.

How can what you like to have sex with not be about sex?
 
2014-03-19 06:07:05 PM  
^ If he can write the essay without talking about sex - that's totally cool.  If he wants to say he found his 'true self' but was afraid of what others would think of him....but he came out of his shell and found that his true friends and his classmates were accepting....

Then - by all means...let him.

It would be the same story and apply to more people.  But if it's about him being gay, it is about sex.
 
2014-03-19 06:07:29 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: hardinparamedic: Fark_Guy_Rob: It's okay to be gay, I just don't want to see any of your disgusting lifestyle choice. Stop liking things I say I don't like!

See, if you had just said that, it would have saved you a lot of time in this thread.

Except that it's totally wrong.  I'm a big fan of all sorts of sex.  I'm about as open minded about sex as a person can be.


Shut up already, guy.

It doesn't matter what you actually believe or feel about a subject - you must fit in one box or the other during these discussions.

Then, you need to call the people in the other box names and respond to the people in your box so they feel validated that they are in the right box.

So which is it - photo's of gay sex in the yearbook or total abstinence laws?
 
2014-03-19 06:08:52 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Please explain to me how someone's SEXUAL identify is not about sex.


When the very sexual identity itself makes them prone to ridicule, scorn, hate, etc.
 
2014-03-19 06:09:18 PM  

EvilEgg: hardinparamedic: Marcus Aurelius: That's quite a lesson they're teaching there.

You're the real monster, Sir.

How dare you be intolerant of the rights of those school administrators to be intolerant of others. How dare you stifle their first Amendment rights, Sir.

Yes, what about the Christians who don't want that kind of filth in their yearbook?


fark em?
 
2014-03-19 06:10:00 PM  

impaler: Fark_Guy_Rob: Please explain to me how someone's SEXUAL identify is not about sex.

When the very sexual identity itself makes them prone to ridicule, scorn, hate, etc.


Furries?
 
2014-03-19 06:13:51 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: UrukHaiGuyz: Fark_Guy_Rob: Sex is taboo in our society.

It's not about sex. If you can't grasp that much, there's not much point continuing this debate. Also....no. False. It's taboo among social conservatives, not that that's relevant because it's NOT ABOUT SEX.

/have a nice day

Please explain to me how someone's SEXUAL identify is not about sex.

What do you think it means to be gay or straight or lesbian or bisexual?  Those are SEXUAL PREFERENCES.  It conveys what things you like to have sex with.

How can what you like to have sex with not be about sex?


Do you think little girls fantasizing about marriage is about sex? If so, why? Human sexuality and sexual preference is much more complex than "Bone: yes or no". It's a part of identity, and informs the entire way someone interacts with society and their peers, for obvious historical and cultural reasons, much like race or religion would.
 
2014-03-19 06:16:03 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: Do you think little girls fantasizing about marriage is about sex?


Fuking sluts
 
2014-03-19 06:17:35 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Personally - I don't think anyone's sexual preferences are appropriate for a high school year book....

'I'll never forget the first time I found robot-bondage-gangbang porn.  Class of 2015 FTW!'


So prom pics of straight couples are off limits?
 
2014-03-19 06:19:32 PM  
dstrick44:

They will get over it.
Or they can stay outraged. It's really up to them.


Who, the gays or the Christians?
 
2014-03-19 06:21:29 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: Fark_Guy_Rob: UrukHaiGuyz: Fark_Guy_Rob: Sex is taboo in our society.

It's not about sex. If you can't grasp that much, there's not much point continuing this debate. Also....no. False. It's taboo among social conservatives, not that that's relevant because it's NOT ABOUT SEX.

/have a nice day

Please explain to me how someone's SEXUAL identify is not about sex.

What do you think it means to be gay or straight or lesbian or bisexual?  Those are SEXUAL PREFERENCES.  It conveys what things you like to have sex with.

How can what you like to have sex with not be about sex?

Do you think little girls fantasizing about marriage is about sex? If so, why? Human sexuality and sexual preference is much more complex than "Bone: yes or no". It's a part of identity, and informs the entire way someone interacts with society and their peers, for obvious historical and cultural reasons, much like race or religion would.


I've never equated marriage and sex.

A story about a girl getting married would be appropriate for a year book.
A story about a girl having sex would not be appropriate for a year book.

Orientation does not matter here.  Yes, if a chick is marrying a chick, we can ASSUME she is lesbian, but none of us know.

Being married is not about sex.
Being straight is about sex.
Being gay is about sex.

It seems like an easy divide.  We expect straight people to not disclose details of their sexual lives in yearbooks, and I have the same expectation for gay people.
 
2014-03-19 06:21:59 PM  

letrole: The idea of homosexuality being a legitimate expression of human sexuality is not accepted by society. The acceptance of homosexuality is a change that has not yet occurred. Again, the default condition is a rejection of homosexuality
Don't mistake circle-jerkery on a web forum for societal norms. Homosexuality is not accepted. You see, that's why there's all this talk of bigotry and intolerance and hurt feelings. Homosexuality is not accepted.
Sorry to completely overstate the point, but it's a little tiresome to hear all this agitprop about homosexuality having universal approval when it's simply not true.


It's a surname!
 
2014-03-19 06:23:41 PM  

DrDude: Fark_Guy_Rob: Personally - I don't think anyone's sexual preferences are appropriate for a high school year book....

'I'll never forget the first time I found robot-bondage-gangbang porn.  Class of 2015 FTW!'

So prom pics of straight couples are off limits?


I've already addressed it but, to say again, pictures of people not involved in sexual activity is okay for a yearbook.  Two dudes with arms around each other - that's cool.  Two chicks?  Cool.  A group of five?  That's cool.

You don't know their sexual orientation.  You don't know what sexual activities they like.  That's cool stuff to know, but not appropriate for a yearbook.

A prom pic WITH an article detailing how they are both totally glad they are straight and found their straight identify on prom night, not appropriate.
 
2014-03-19 06:27:53 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: We expect straight people to not disclose details of their sexual lives in yearbooks, and I have the same expectation for gay people.


Well, good thing nothing remotely like that happened in TFA.
 
2014-03-19 06:28:59 PM  

impaler: Fark_Guy_Rob: Please explain to me how someone's SEXUAL identify is not about sex.

When the very sexual identity itself makes them prone to ridicule, scorn, hate, etc.


Lots of sexual identities are not accepted by society.  Half the porn I look at is not generally accepted by society.  And that's fine, I like porn, it's great.  I even like weird porn.  But there is a HUGE spectrum that goes far beyond gay/straight and if you go far enough, you can base your entire culture/identity around that subgroup.  You can TOTALLY make your whole life around any of a near endless number of sexual identities society will make fun of you for.

None of belongs in a yearbook, IMHO.  Everyone has sexual identity and it's a part of them.  And it's great.  And it can be a tiny part of who you are, or it can be a huge part of who you are.  For whatever your sexuality is.  But high school yearbooks, largely targeted at minors, aren't the place for it.
 
2014-03-19 06:32:23 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: Fark_Guy_Rob: We expect straight people to not disclose details of their sexual lives in yearbooks, and I have the same expectation for gay people.

Well, good thing nothing remotely like that happened in TFA.


If someone says 'I am gay' they are disclosing details of their sexual lives.

The kid wants to tell his coming out story in the year book.  That, by necessity, is about his sexual life.  The only way it isn't about his sexual preferences is if he removes any reference to his sexuality at which point, it would be totally acceptable.

He can write a story about how he never felt like he let people know the 'real him', but then he realized it was okay to be himself, and everyone still supported him.  That's totally cool....and tons of students are going to relate.  But you would never know it was about him being gay, unless you knew him personally.  And that'd be a great story for a yearbook.

But if he says, 'I'm gay' - it's now about sex.  Because being gay IS about sex.  That's the defining characteristic.  Like the ONLY defining characteristic.  You can be gay and hate sports or love sports or be republican or democrat or a nice guy or a jerk.  But you can't be gay and not want to have sex with people of the same gender.  That's what it means.
 
2014-03-19 06:35:39 PM  
YEARBOOK PROFILES

Suzie: I want to become a doctor and find a cure for cancer.
Freddy: I Like playing video games and skateboarding.
Jessica: I enjoy horseback riding and want to be a vet some day.
Johnny: I like working out, and will be a Marine like my dad was.
Taylor: I'd like Freddy and Johnny to pack my fudge.

/yeah... no
 
2014-03-19 06:39:45 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Being married is not about sex.
Being straight is about sex.
Being gay is about sex.


0/3  F minus minus
 
2014-03-19 06:39:57 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: UrukHaiGuyz: Fark_Guy_Rob: We expect straight people to not disclose details of their sexual lives in yearbooks, and I have the same expectation for gay people.

Well, good thing nothing remotely like that happened in TFA.

If someone says 'I am gay' they are disclosing details of their sexual lives.

The kid wants to tell his coming out story in the year book.  That, by necessity, is about his sexual life.  The only way it isn't about his sexual preferences is if he removes any reference to his sexuality at which point, it would be totally acceptable.

He can write a story about how he never felt like he let people know the 'real him', but then he realized it was okay to be himself, and everyone still supported him.  That's totally cool....and tons of students are going to relate.  But you would never know it was about him being gay, unless you knew him personally.  And that'd be a great story for a yearbook.

But if he says, 'I'm gay' - it's now about sex.  Because being gay IS about sex.  That's the defining characteristic.  Like the ONLY defining characteristic.  You can be gay and hate sports or love sports or be republican or democrat or a nice guy or a jerk.  But you can't be gay and not want to have sex with people of the same gender.  That's what it means.


If you equate knowing someone's sexual orientation to knowing the details of their sexual life, you must need the fainting couch every time you see a couple kiss in public. I see the argument you're trying to make, but it's not a logical one.
 
2014-03-19 06:41:04 PM  

Alleyoop: YEARBOOK PROFILES

Suzie: I want to become a doctor and find a cure for cancer.
Freddy: I Like playing video games and skateboarding.
Jessica: I enjoy horseback riding and want to be a vet some day.
Johnny: I like working out, and will be a Marine like my dad was.
Taylor: I'd like Freddy and Johnny to pack my fudge.


Just because you can't stop thinking about the buttsecks every time someone says "I'm gay" doesn't mean the rest of the world thinks that way.
 
2014-03-19 06:48:33 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: Fark_Guy_Rob: UrukHaiGuyz: Fark_Guy_Rob: We expect straight people to not disclose details of their sexual lives in yearbooks, and I have the same expectation for gay people.

Well, good thing nothing remotely like that happened in TFA.

If someone says 'I am gay' they are disclosing details of their sexual lives.

The kid wants to tell his coming out story in the year book.  That, by necessity, is about his sexual life.  The only way it isn't about his sexual preferences is if he removes any reference to his sexuality at which point, it would be totally acceptable.

He can write a story about how he never felt like he let people know the 'real him', but then he realized it was okay to be himself, and everyone still supported him.  That's totally cool....and tons of students are going to relate.  But you would never know it was about him being gay, unless you knew him personally.  And that'd be a great story for a yearbook.

But if he says, 'I'm gay' - it's now about sex.  Because being gay IS about sex.  That's the defining characteristic.  Like the ONLY defining characteristic.  You can be gay and hate sports or love sports or be republican or democrat or a nice guy or a jerk.  But you can't be gay and not want to have sex with people of the same gender.  That's what it means.

If you equate knowing someone's sexual orientation to knowing the details of their sexual life, you must need the fainting couch every time you see a couple kiss in public. I see the argument you're trying to make, but it's not a logical one.


Someone's sexual orientation *IS*, without a doubt, a detail of their sexual life.  It doesn't belong in a high school yearbook.

And no, I don't faint when I see a couple kiss in public.  I'm not a prude, by any definition of the word.  I'm all for gay sex, and gay porn and all sorts of kinky stuff.  Even if *I* don't like it, I'm glad it exists.

Not wanting something in a YEARBOOK being sold to 15 year olds is NOT the same as not wanting to see it or not wanting it to exist.
 
2014-03-19 06:52:37 PM  

hardinparamedic: rkiller1: So when you wrote "funny" you were being ironic and really meant "angry"?
Got it.
Peace...out.

See, it's times like this that demonstrate why no one even takes you seriously anymore as anything other than a right winged troll, dude.


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