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(Salon)   Arkansas school that banned gay student's coming out story in yearbook relents to public pressure. Ha, just kidding, they doubled down and banned other students from mentioning his coming out story   (salon.com) divider line 276
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2014-03-19 06:48:33 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: Fark_Guy_Rob: UrukHaiGuyz: Fark_Guy_Rob: We expect straight people to not disclose details of their sexual lives in yearbooks, and I have the same expectation for gay people.

Well, good thing nothing remotely like that happened in TFA.

If someone says 'I am gay' they are disclosing details of their sexual lives.

The kid wants to tell his coming out story in the year book.  That, by necessity, is about his sexual life.  The only way it isn't about his sexual preferences is if he removes any reference to his sexuality at which point, it would be totally acceptable.

He can write a story about how he never felt like he let people know the 'real him', but then he realized it was okay to be himself, and everyone still supported him.  That's totally cool....and tons of students are going to relate.  But you would never know it was about him being gay, unless you knew him personally.  And that'd be a great story for a yearbook.

But if he says, 'I'm gay' - it's now about sex.  Because being gay IS about sex.  That's the defining characteristic.  Like the ONLY defining characteristic.  You can be gay and hate sports or love sports or be republican or democrat or a nice guy or a jerk.  But you can't be gay and not want to have sex with people of the same gender.  That's what it means.

If you equate knowing someone's sexual orientation to knowing the details of their sexual life, you must need the fainting couch every time you see a couple kiss in public. I see the argument you're trying to make, but it's not a logical one.


Someone's sexual orientation *IS*, without a doubt, a detail of their sexual life.  It doesn't belong in a high school yearbook.

And no, I don't faint when I see a couple kiss in public.  I'm not a prude, by any definition of the word.  I'm all for gay sex, and gay porn and all sorts of kinky stuff.  Even if *I* don't like it, I'm glad it exists.

Not wanting something in a YEARBOOK being sold to 15 year olds is NOT the same as not wanting to see it or not wanting it to exist.
 
2014-03-19 06:52:37 PM  

hardinparamedic: rkiller1: So when you wrote "funny" you were being ironic and really meant "angry"?
Got it.
Peace...out.

See, it's times like this that demonstrate why no one even takes you seriously anymore as anything other than a right winged troll, dude.


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2014-03-19 06:53:30 PM  

snarfyboy: Fark_Guy_Rob: Being married is not about sex.
Being straight is about sex.
Being gay is about sex.

0/3  F minus minus


If you really try hard, everything goes back to sex.  Everyone who is alive today is alive because of sex.  And yes, some tiny component of marriage is linked to sex.  In some places NOT having sex is grounds for having the marriage annulled.

The difference is that being married is about a LOT of things that have nothing to do with sexual orientation or preference.  When I got married, I signed a piece of paper.  That's totally PG.

Being straight is about having a sexual desire to bone members of the opposite sex.  It is about SEX.  That's the definition of it.  Being gay is about sex.  Being straight is about sex.
 
2014-03-19 06:56:54 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: The Flexecutioner: Don't buy the yearbook in protest.

Everyone submit a profile that will likely be omitted. Result: a book of blank pages.


Well, I have a feeling it was going to be a book of blank stares.
 
2014-03-19 07:01:27 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: If someone says 'I am gay' they are disclosing details of their sexual lives.


Someone can state that they are gay, while they're a virgin.

"I am gay" cannot disclose details about someone's sexual live, if the statement can be made by someone that has never had a sex life.
 
2014-03-19 07:05:20 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Someone's sexual orientation *IS*, without a doubt, a detail of their sexual life.


That literally cannot be true if someone can have an orientation without every having a sex life. Something cannot be a detail about something that doesn't exist.

Logical fact - your wrong.
 
2014-03-19 07:06:04 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Being straight is about having a sexual desire to bone members of the opposite sex.


If that's what you think then I feel sorry for your wife.
 
2014-03-19 07:07:17 PM  

impaler: Fark_Guy_Rob: If someone says 'I am gay' they are disclosing details of their sexual lives.

Someone can state that they are gay, while they're a virgin.

"I am gay" cannot disclose details about someone's sexual live, if the statement can be made by someone that has never had a sex life.


I think it's time to face the fact there are a number of cranky, elderly, confused virgins in this thread, and it's probably best not to upset them.
 
2014-03-19 07:07:21 PM  

Astorix: Just like with rural Indiana the best thing you can do is leave Arkansas. Leave. Let it suffer a brain drain just like the rural parts of Indiana. Leave it to dry up and blow in the wind. Move to friendlier states with more accepting laws. Move to the East Coast, West Coast, Canada. Just leave.

You will be so much happier for it.

/I sure am. Left Indiana 18 years ago and the only thing I regret was not leaving there 10 years earlier.


Fark_Guy_Rob: UrukHaiGuyz: Fark_Guy_Rob: Sex is taboo in our society.

It's not about sex. If you can't grasp that much, there's not much point continuing this debate. Also....no. False. It's taboo among social conservatives, not that that's relevant because it's NOT ABOUT SEX.

/have a nice day

Please explain to me how someone's SEXUAL identify is not about sex.

What do you think it means to be gay or straight or lesbian or bisexual?  Those are SEXUAL PREFERENCES.  It conveys what things you like to have sex with.

How can what you like to have sex with not be about sex?


Sex=Parts you were born with
Gender: What you ID as based on the parts you were born with

Bisexual: you can be attracted to the MALE and/or FEMALE sex
Straight: you attracted to the OPPOSITE SEX than you
GAY: You attracted to the SAME sex as you

Just because you are attracted to them, DOES NOT MEAN YOU WILL HAVE or want to have SEX WITH THEM. It just means that you are attracted to them. That's all.
 
2014-03-19 07:08:12 PM  
We're going to have to ban prom photos too because they show couples and that's only about sex.
 
2014-03-19 07:08:57 PM  

impaler: Fark_Guy_Rob: If someone says 'I am gay' they are disclosing details of their sexual lives.

Someone can state that they are gay, while they're a virgin.

"I am gay" cannot disclose details about someone's sexual live, if the statement can be made by someone that has never had a sex life.


That's only if you arbitrarily define 'someone's sexual live' to be things they have actually done.

If someone says 'I am gay' it means they WANT to have sexual activities with members of the same sex.  It doesn't matter if they have done it or not, it is still a sexual desire/sexual preference and inappropriate for a high school yearbook.  If you want to argue that it isn't part of their sexual life, okay, fine, we are just splitting hairs.

I wouldn't think a quote from a guy about wanting to bang two chicks at once would be appropriate either - even if he hadn't actually had a threesome with two girls before.  It's about sex, detailing a sexual preference, that shouldn't be in a book sold to minors.
 
2014-03-19 07:12:53 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: If someone says 'I am gay' it means they WANT to have sexual activities with members of the same sex.


It can also mean they want to have a loving relationship with someone of the same sex.

Has all your sexual experiences only been with hookers or something? Because you have a fuking warped view of what a relationship with a significant other is about.
 
2014-03-19 07:15:26 PM  

mafiageek1980: Astorix: Just like with rural Indiana the best thing you can do is leave Arkansas. Leave. Let it suffer a brain drain just like the rural parts of Indiana. Leave it to dry up and blow in the wind. Move to friendlier states with more accepting laws. Move to the East Coast, West Coast, Canada. Just leave.

You will be so much happier for it.

/I sure am. Left Indiana 18 years ago and the only thing I regret was not leaving there 10 years earlier.

Fark_Guy_Rob: UrukHaiGuyz: Fark_Guy_Rob: Sex is taboo in our society.

It's not about sex. If you can't grasp that much, there's not much point continuing this debate. Also....no. False. It's taboo among social conservatives, not that that's relevant because it's NOT ABOUT SEX.

/have a nice day

Please explain to me how someone's SEXUAL identify is not about sex.

What do you think it means to be gay or straight or lesbian or bisexual?  Those are SEXUAL PREFERENCES.  It conveys what things you like to have sex with.

How can what you like to have sex with not be about sex?

Sex=Parts you were born with
Gender: What you ID as based on the parts you were born with

Bisexual: you can be attracted to the MALE and/or FEMALE sex
Straight: you attracted to the OPPOSITE SEX than you
GAY: You attracted to the SAME sex as you

Just because you are attracted to them, DOES NOT MEAN YOU WILL HAVE or want to have SEX WITH THEM. It just means that you are attracted to them. That's all.


Your being pedantic.  Sex is NOT just parts you are born worth.  That's one definition, sure.  But English is not so precise and there are lots of usages for the same word.

'We had sex last night' -->  Makes no sense using your definition.

And again, we're just splitting hairs.  I'm happy to accept your bi/gay/straight - but it is a sexual attraction.  You are correct, it doesn't mean you *will* have sex with them.  But that's obvious, isn't it?  I'm attracted to every hot chick I've ever seen in porn.  Of course that doesn't mean I WILL have sex with them.  It means, on some level, I want to.

And sure, you can be sexually attracted to someone and not literally want to have sex with them.  There can be lots of reasons why you would choose to abstain from sexual activities.  I'm in a relationship, I don't want to cheat on my partner, so even if I'm sexually attracted to someone, I might not 'want' to have sex with them.

But again, none of this seems relevant to me.  Declaring your sexual attractions is something that is inappropriate for a yearbook.  There isn't much difference between 'I want to bang chicks' and 'I will bang chicks' or 'I like to think about banging chicks, but I don't want to do it' in that regard.  In other contexts, sure, they are world's apart.  I wouldn't want any of them in a high school yearbook though.
 
2014-03-19 07:16:15 PM  

OnlyM3: Are they also including "I farked the prom queen stories"? No? probably because who you fark has not a g.d. thing to do w/ school.


Show us on the doll where your uncle touched you.
 
2014-03-19 07:18:16 PM  

snarfyboy: Just because you can't stop thinking about the buttsecks every time someone says "I'm gay" doesn't mean the rest of the world thinks that way.


Um, yeah, and none of the normal kids are saying "I'm straight" so try to get that heterosecks out of your head.

/am I doing it right?
 
2014-03-19 07:18:27 PM  
And here we see an example of arguably the most hilarious kind of bigotry.

"I have nothing against gay people, but I nonetheless object to them doing things that would be completely unremarkable if done by straight people on the basis of a set of rules that I came up with twelve seconds ago. I will now make a series of increasingly insincere, awkward and outright creepy attempts to convince people that I would apply this set of newly-invented, totally arbitrary restrictions to straight people as well."
 
2014-03-19 07:19:10 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: It would be the same story and apply to more people.  But if it's about him being gay, it is about sex.


It's okay, FGR. We understand, You got a boner and you're embarrassed. We won't tell anyone. We promise.

Christian sexual shame. Such a terrible waste of a human mind.
 
2014-03-19 07:21:16 PM  

Biological Ali: And here we see an example of arguably the most hilarious kind of bigotry.

"I have nothing against gay people, but I nonetheless object to them doing things that would be completely unremarkable if done by straight people on the basis of a set of rules that I came up with twelve seconds ago. I will now make a series of increasingly insincere, awkward and outright creepy attempts to convince people that I would apply this set of newly-invented, totally arbitrary restrictions to straight people as well."


The sad thing is how pathetically obvious and transparent it is. They think we're too stupid to know what they're really up to.
 
2014-03-19 07:22:03 PM  

impaler: Fark_Guy_Rob: If someone says 'I am gay' it means they WANT to have sexual activities with members of the same sex.

It can also mean they want to have a loving relationship with someone of the same sex.

Has all your sexual experiences only been with hookers or something? Because you have a fuking warped view of what a relationship with a significant other is about.


1.)  Go to www.Google.com
2.)  type 'define: gay'
3.)  Realize we are clearing talking about 'homosexual' - click that link
4.)  Read:

adjective: homosexual
sexually attracted to people of one's own sex.
* involving or characterized by sexual attraction between people of the same sex.
"homosexual desire"

noun: homosexual; plural noun: homosexuals
a person who is sexually attracted to people of their own sex.

synonyms:    gay, lesbian, gay person, lesbigay; More
antonyms:    heterosexual, straight

----------------------
That's what the word means.  If you want a non-sexual relationship with a dude, then it doesn't make you gay.  You might be gay or straight or bi or asexual - a non-sexual relationship has NO impact.  Because being gay/straight/bi is about sexual attraction.
 
2014-03-19 07:25:25 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: That's what the word means.


Too bad we're talking about people, not words.
 
2014-03-19 07:26:09 PM  

Ed Grubermann: Fark_Guy_Rob: It would be the same story and apply to more people.  But if it's about him being gay, it is about sex.

It's okay, FGR. We understand, You got a boner and you're embarrassed. We won't tell anyone. We promise.

Christian sexual shame. Such a terrible waste of a human mind.


I'm not Christian (or any religion)
I have no sexual shame.
I enjoy a wide variety of sexual activities and sexual fantasies.
I support gay marriage.
I have no objection to gay people.

But sure - whatever floats your boat.  Do you want me to blindly guess things about you that are almost certainly wrong too?
 
2014-03-19 07:31:37 PM  

snarfyboy: Fark_Guy_Rob: Being straight is about having a sexual desire to bone members of the opposite sex.

If that's what you think then I feel sorry for your wife.


That's what I was thinking :/
 
2014-03-19 07:32:03 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: mafiageek1980: Astorix: Just like with rural Indiana the best thing you can do is leave Arkansas. Leave. Let it suffer a brain drain just like the rural parts of Indiana. Leave it to dry up and blow in the wind. Move to friendlier states with more accepting laws. Move to the East Coast, West Coast, Canada. Just leave.

You will be so much happier for it.

/I sure am. Left Indiana 18 years ago and the only thing I regret was not leaving there 10 years earlier.

Fark_Guy_Rob: UrukHaiGuyz: Fark_Guy_Rob: Sex is taboo in our society.

It's not about sex. If you can't grasp that much, there's not much point continuing this debate. Also....no. False. It's taboo among social conservatives, not that that's relevant because it's NOT ABOUT SEX.

/have a nice day

Please explain to me how someone's SEXUAL identify is not about sex.

What do you think it means to be gay or straight or lesbian or bisexual?  Those are SEXUAL PREFERENCES.  It conveys what things you like to have sex with.

How can what you like to have sex with not be about sex?

Sex=Parts you were born with
Gender: What you ID as based on the parts you were born with

Bisexual: you can be attracted to the MALE and/or FEMALE sex
Straight: you attracted to the OPPOSITE SEX than you
GAY: You attracted to the SAME sex as you

Just because you are attracted to them, DOES NOT MEAN YOU WILL HAVE or want to have SEX WITH THEM. It just means that you are attracted to them. That's all.

Your being pedantic.  Sex is NOT just parts you are born worth.  That's one definition, sure.  But English is not so precise and there are lots of usages for the same word.

'We had sex last night' -->  Makes no sense using your definition.

And again, we're just splitting hairs.  I'm happy to accept your bi/gay/straight - but it is a sexual attraction.  You are correct, it doesn't mean you *will* have sex with them.  But that's obvious, isn't it?  I'm attracted to every hot chick I've ever seen in porn.  Of course that doesn't mean I WIL ...


To quote SEVERAL of my fellow farkers that have ALREADY made this statement:

In that case, we should ditch ANY and all pictures of the prom/school dances in that case. Oh yeah, and the yearbooks that do that "cutest couple" shiat, ban those too.
 
2014-03-19 07:32:03 PM  

impaler: Fark_Guy_Rob: That's what the word means.

Too bad we're talking about people, not words.


No we are not talking about people.  I am SPECIFICALLY responding to your last post.  I will recap so that it will be clear.

I said:  'If someone says 'I am gay' it means they WANT to have sexual activities with members of the same sex. '
You said: 'It can also mean they want to have a loving relationship with someone of the same sex '

My response is just to your claim.  If someone says 'I am gay', 'gay' has a meaning.  It is a word.  We are talking about the word gay, and what it means.  And I quoted the definition from Google as a reference for my position that when someone says 'I am gay' it is expressing a sexual attraction or desire.
 
2014-03-19 07:32:53 PM  

impaler: WanPhat: No, the equivalence is valid.

Not sure having a yearbook where kids talk about who they want to have sex with is such a good idea.

You can be gay your entire life without every having sex


You can want to have sex with someone for your entire life without ever having sex too.

impaler:What fuking part of that statement can't you morons get?

Stating you're gay isn't sexually explicit.


Nobody is saying it is explicit. It just doesn't belong in a yearbook any more than "I am sexually attracted to redheads" is.
 
2014-03-19 07:34:55 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Not wanting something in a YEARBOOK being sold to 15 year olds is NOT the same as not wanting to see it or not wanting it to exist.


danceswithfat.files.wordpress.com

15 year-olds SHOULD already know gay people exist. It's the world we live in now. Get over it. If anything, his story could reassure other kids that being gay is not a bad thing.

Or as Louis CK said:

www.blogactive.com
 
2014-03-19 07:36:27 PM  

mafiageek1980: Fark_Guy_Rob: mafiageek1980: Astorix: Just like with rural Indiana the best thing you can do is leave Arkansas. Leave. Let it suffer a brain drain just like the rural parts of Indiana. Leave it to dry up and blow in the wind. Move to friendlier states with more accepting laws. Move to the East Coast, West Coast, Canada. Just leave.

You will be so much happier for it.

/I sure am. Left Indiana 18 years ago and the only thing I regret was not leaving there 10 years earlier.

Fark_Guy_Rob: UrukHaiGuyz: Fark_Guy_Rob: Sex is taboo in our society.

It's not about sex. If you can't grasp that much, there's not much point continuing this debate. Also....no. False. It's taboo among social conservatives, not that that's relevant because it's NOT ABOUT SEX.

/have a nice day

Please explain to me how someone's SEXUAL identify is not about sex.

What do you think it means to be gay or straight or lesbian or bisexual?  Those are SEXUAL PREFERENCES.  It conveys what things you like to have sex with.

How can what you like to have sex with not be about sex?

Sex=Parts you were born with
Gender: What you ID as based on the parts you were born with

Bisexual: you can be attracted to the MALE and/or FEMALE sex
Straight: you attracted to the OPPOSITE SEX than you
GAY: You attracted to the SAME sex as you

Just because you are attracted to them, DOES NOT MEAN YOU WILL HAVE or want to have SEX WITH THEM. It just means that you are attracted to them. That's all.

Your being pedantic.  Sex is NOT just parts you are born worth.  That's one definition, sure.  But English is not so precise and there are lots of usages for the same word.

'We had sex last night' -->  Makes no sense using your definition.

And again, we're just splitting hairs.  I'm happy to accept your bi/gay/straight - but it is a sexual attraction.  You are correct, it doesn't mean you *will* have sex with them.  But that's obvious, isn't it?  I'm attracted to every hot chick I've ever seen in porn.  Of course that does ...


If you scroll up - I've already addressed the picture issue like four times now.  Pictures are fine because they don't show sexual activity.  Two people standing with arms on each other - is totally fine.  They might be friends, they might be lovers.  Two guys, two girls - whatever.  That's totally cool.  A group of five people locking arms for a group photo at prom - again - totally cool.  Photos of people smiling or dancing or holding hands - all totally cool.

A caption that says 'I like to have sex with her' underneath the photo - inappropriate.

Saying 'I am straight' is entirely different than implying that you probably are because you are guy dancing with a girl.  Saying, 'I am gay' in the yearbook is totally different posing for a photo with your boyfriend.  Unless you are involved in sexual activities in the photo (then it wouldn't be appropriate).
 
2014-03-19 07:41:15 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Fark_Guy_Rob: Not wanting something in a YEARBOOK being sold to 15 year olds is NOT the same as not wanting to see it or not wanting it to exist.

[danceswithfat.files.wordpress.com image 580x480]

15 year-olds SHOULD already know gay people exist. It's the world we live in now. Get over it. If anything, his story could reassure other kids that being gay is not a bad thing.

Or as Louis CK said:

[www.blogactive.com image 513x553]


Yes - 15 year olds should know that gays exist and the relevant history/civil liberties stuff.  Same way we should teach kids about racism and drugs and violence and sex.  And, just for the record, I love drugs, violence and sex.  Still, there is a HUGE difference between saying

'There exists racist people'
and 'I hate black people'.

There is a huge difference between saying 'drugs exist' and 'After prom I am gonna get HIGH AS FUUUUUU'.

There is a huge difference between saying 'This is how sex works.  These are birth control methods.  The 'early withdrawl method is not very effective' and 'I like to blow my load my girlfriends boobs'.  And there is a big difference between there are gay people and 'I am gay'.

An individual's sexual preferences shouldn't be in a yearbook.  Straight/gay/bi/whatever.
 
2014-03-19 07:43:29 PM  

snarfyboy: Fark_Guy_Rob: Being straight is about having a sexual desire to bone members of the opposite sex.

If that's what you think then I feel sorry for your wife.


Why don't you enlighten us with a better definition of what it 'straight' is?
 
2014-03-19 07:43:46 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: And there is a big difference between there are gay people and 'I am gay'.


LOLWUT?

And I liked how you ignored my whole sentence about this actually being an inspiration and reassurance to other gay kids that being gay is not wrong or bad.
 
2014-03-19 07:52:29 PM  
But the story about knocking up the PE teacher is still OK.
 
2014-03-19 07:53:50 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Fark_Guy_Rob: And there is a big difference between there are gay people and 'I am gay'.

LOLWUT?

And I liked how you ignored my whole sentence about this actually being an inspiration and reassurance to other gay kids that being gay is not wrong or bad.


The same can be true of ANY sexual activity.  Pegging isn't very accepted in our society.  If I wrote an article for my yearbook about how my GF and I totally got into pegging and how when we told people we were nervous, but everyone supported us.  And it's totally cool.

That could really make other dudes who enjoy being pegged feel better.  I'm totally cool with pretty much any sexual activity - so if pegging is your thing - that's awesome.  There is nothing wrong or bad about it.

But you should seek that reassurance somewhere besides your high school year book.  I agree, 100% there is nothing wrong with being gay or straight or bi or bi-curious or anything else.
 
2014-03-19 07:56:10 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: scottydoesntknow: Fark_Guy_Rob: And there is a big difference between there are gay people and 'I am gay'.

LOLWUT?

And I liked how you ignored my whole sentence about this actually being an inspiration and reassurance to other gay kids that being gay is not wrong or bad.

The same can be true of ANY sexual activity.  Pegging isn't very accepted in our society.  If I wrote an article for my yearbook about how my GF and I totally got into pegging and how when we told people we were nervous, but everyone supported us.  And it's totally cool.

That could really make other dudes who enjoy being pegged feel better.  I'm totally cool with pretty much any sexual activity - so if pegging is your thing - that's awesome.  There is nothing wrong or bad about it.

But you should seek that reassurance somewhere besides your high school year book.  I agree, 100% there is nothing wrong with being gay or straight or bi or bi-curious or anything else.


You aren't born pegging, so stop that. You're still straight, and you have a fetish for pegging. Two completely different things, and comparing the two as similar is farking stupid at the very least.
 
2014-03-19 07:58:33 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Why don't you enlighten us with a better definition of what it 'straight' is?


It's more then objectifying your wife as a mound of flesh to fark, I'll tell you that.
 
2014-03-19 08:02:35 PM  

snarfyboy: Fark_Guy_Rob: Why don't you enlighten us with a better definition of what it 'straight' is?

It's more then objectifying your wife as a mound of flesh to fark, I'll tell you that.


HE'S ALABAMA MAN!
 
2014-03-19 08:02:47 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Fark_Guy_Rob: scottydoesntknow: Fark_Guy_Rob: And there is a big difference between there are gay people and 'I am gay'.

LOLWUT?

And I liked how you ignored my whole sentence about this actually being an inspiration and reassurance to other gay kids that being gay is not wrong or bad.

The same can be true of ANY sexual activity.  Pegging isn't very accepted in our society.  If I wrote an article for my yearbook about how my GF and I totally got into pegging and how when we told people we were nervous, but everyone supported us.  And it's totally cool.

That could really make other dudes who enjoy being pegged feel better.  I'm totally cool with pretty much any sexual activity - so if pegging is your thing - that's awesome.  There is nothing wrong or bad about it.

But you should seek that reassurance somewhere besides your high school year book.  I agree, 100% there is nothing wrong with being gay or straight or bi or bi-curious or anything else.

You aren't born pegging, so stop that. You're still straight, and you have a fetish for pegging. Two completely different things, and comparing the two as similar is farking stupid at the very least.


LOTS of people with fetishes claim to be born with them.  Who are you or I to argue?  If a gay person tells me they were born gay, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.  The one true chubby chaser I know says he was *always* sexually attracted to large women, for as long as he can remember.  He believes he was born that way.

There isn't nearly enough medical understanding to conclude that someone wasn't born with a fetish.  There is also a lot of conflicting evidence as to whether or not people are born gay or straight - like identical twins where only one is gay.  So, while you've presented it as a fact, it isn't universally accepted as such.

Unless you can prove one is by birth and one isn't, I believe it is a completely valid comparison.
 
2014-03-19 08:05:22 PM  

snarfyboy: Fark_Guy_Rob: Why don't you enlighten us with a better definition of what it 'straight' is?

It's more then objectifying your wife as a mound of flesh to fark, I'll tell you that.


That's quite possibly the worst definition of straight I have ever heard.  'More than objectifying your wife....' ummm, okay.  So if I get divorced, am I still straight?  What else does it include?
 
2014-03-19 08:29:09 PM  

snarfyboy: Fark_Guy_Rob: Why don't you enlighten us with a better definition of what it 'straight' is?

It's more then objectifying your wife as a mound of flesh to fark, I'll tell you that.


You were born with a wife? Sucks to be you I guess.
 
2014-03-19 08:31:17 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: That's quite possibly the worst definition of straight I have ever heard.  'More than objectifying your wife....' ummm, okay.  So if I get divorced, am I still straight?  What else does it include?


Hey, it's your definition not mine. Don't blame me for using your definition. You are the one that said gay and straight are about sex and who you want to fark, not me.  Or are you saying that maybe there is something more to it?
 
2014-03-19 08:32:16 PM  

snarfyboy: Fark_Guy_Rob: That's quite possibly the worst definition of straight I have ever heard.  'More than objectifying your wife....' ummm, okay.  So if I get divorced, am I still straight?  What else does it include?

Hey, it's your definition not mine. Don't blame me for using your definition. You are the one that said gay and straight are about sex and who you want to fark, not me.  Or are you saying that maybe there is something more to it?


The point totally flew over his moron head.
 
2014-03-19 08:39:24 PM  
Bunch of hypocrites here.

If the kid told a story about the their religion, NRA, or hunting or shooting, you would be all for the ban. But story about being a bone zombie is perfectly okay......
 
2014-03-19 08:40:23 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: scottydoesntknow: Fark_Guy_Rob: scottydoesntknow: Fark_Guy_Rob: And there is a big difference between there are gay people and 'I am gay'.

LOLWUT?

And I liked how you ignored my whole sentence about this actually being an inspiration and reassurance to other gay kids that being gay is not wrong or bad.

The same can be true of ANY sexual activity.  Pegging isn't very accepted in our society.  If I wrote an article for my yearbook about how my GF and I totally got into pegging and how when we told people we were nervous, but everyone supported us.  And it's totally cool.

That could really make other dudes who enjoy being pegged feel better.  I'm totally cool with pretty much any sexual activity - so if pegging is your thing - that's awesome.  There is nothing wrong or bad about it.

But you should seek that reassurance somewhere besides your high school year book.  I agree, 100% there is nothing wrong with being gay or straight or bi or bi-curious or anything else.

You aren't born pegging, so stop that. You're still straight, and you have a fetish for pegging. Two completely different things, and comparing the two as similar is farking stupid at the very least.

LOTS of people with fetishes claim to be born with them.  Who are you or I to argue?  If a gay person tells me they were born gay, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.  The one true chubby chaser I know says he was *always* sexually attracted to large women, for as long as he can remember.  He believes he was born that way.

There isn't nearly enough medical understanding to conclude that someone wasn't born with a fetish.  There is also a lot of conflicting evidence as to whether or not people are born gay or straight - like identical twins where only one is gay.  So, while you've presented it as a fact, it isn't universally accepted as such.

Unless you can prove one is by birth and one isn't, I believe it is a completely valid comparison.


Comparing one's inborn sexual orientation such as straight/gay to fetishes is just plain ridiculous. It's the tired old "slippery slope" argument and therefore invalid. You may as well say that since you were born liking women in a sexual way, that someone else could just as easily be born liking hedgehogs in a sexual way. I mean, they're both sexual, right? Oh, but you weren't thinking of the straight persuasion when you made this argument, were you? This "logic" fails just as soundly as the standard conservative "Well if two men can get married then why can't a man marry a dog" argument. It's not only ridiculous, it's extremely insulting to people who have done nothing wrong to anyone and don't deserve this kind of lumping in with oddities.
 
2014-03-19 08:58:02 PM  

Thunderpipes: Bunch of hypocrites here.

If the kid told a story about the their religion, NRA, or hunting or shooting, you would be all for the ban. But story about being a bone zombie is perfectly okay......


Oh look, TP has arrive to throw a bunch of hypothetical straw men on the thread!

Also wrong. About me anyway; I can't speak for others.  Now, tell me, if you are okay with those examples you listed are you also okay with this kid?
 
2014-03-19 10:21:43 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Personally - I don't think anyone's sexual preferences are appropriate for a high school year book....


It would be interesting to see if a yearbook would have a problem with the star athlete proclaiming his heterosexuality -for comparison.

/although we already know there is no problem with yearbook publishing school dance photos
 
2014-03-19 10:32:30 PM  

someonelse: This really isn't hard to fathom if your brain didn't calcify during the Eisenhower era. Students write a little something about themselves and their HS experience. It's not that hard to wrap your head around. These aren't toddlers we're talking about, they're young adults. Just a stone's throw from being able to serve in the military. A "coming out as gay" essay is nothing shocking. Not to this generation.


Students are writing essays that get published in their yearbooks?

I guess what I'm trying to figure out is what kind of thing normally gets written.  What is it usually about, and how long is it?  Is it a one or two sentence thing?  Is it, as you just stated, an essay?

They didn't do this when I was in school, and they didn't do it when my kids were in school.   I don't care if you're gay.  I don't really understand why so many gays seem to feel that they have to make a big deal out of it, but I really don't care, and I'm in favor of gay marriage.  My question isn't about gays, it's about people writing "their story" in yearbooks.
 
2014-03-19 10:40:05 PM  

JuggleGeek: someonelse: This really isn't hard to fathom if your brain didn't calcify during the Eisenhower era. Students write a little something about themselves and their HS experience. It's not that hard to wrap your head around. These aren't toddlers we're talking about, they're young adults. Just a stone's throw from being able to serve in the military. A "coming out as gay" essay is nothing shocking. Not to this generation.

Students are writing essays that get published in their yearbooks?

I guess what I'm trying to figure out is what kind of thing normally gets written.  What is it usually about, and how long is it?  Is it a one or two sentence thing?  Is it, as you just stated, an essay?

They didn't do this when I was in school, and they didn't do it when my kids were in school.   I don't care if you're gay.  I don't really understand why so many gays seem to feel that they have to make a big deal out of it, but I really don't care, and I'm in favor of gay marriage.  My question isn't about gays, it's about people writing "their story" in yearbooks.


Hey, Old Man River, maybe you didn't notice but yearbooks are twice the size of the phonebooks you and your Old Man River classmates used to get in the "mail".

They write essays and thesis on how the world has changed (and for the better) since you old pieces of shiat died off.

They talk about the Twilight Saga, and the new guy playing Batman, and such like that.

You don't get it, old man.
 
2014-03-19 11:18:16 PM  
What an inspirational story. Being accepted for who you are sounds really rough.
 
2014-03-19 11:25:40 PM  

Agent Nick Fury: Hey, Old Man River, maybe you didn't notice but yearbooks are twice the size of the phonebooks you and your Old Man River classmates used to get in the "mail".

They write essays and thesis on how the world has changed (and for the better) since you old pieces of shiat died off.

They talk about the Twilight Saga, and the new guy playing Batman, and such like that.

You don't get it, old man.


You are correct that I don't get it.  That's why I'm asking.  You could answer the question, which you haven't done, or you could be an asshole.  Apparently, you prefer the asshole route.  That's fine, I can treat you like an asshole.

I called a friend of mine who teaches high school in Dallas at Lake Highlands HS and asked her.  She doesn't know anything about this either.  She says that the kids don't write essays or stories or paragraphs or anything similar to be printed in the yearbooks.  She asked me if I was talking about the notes they write to a friend when they sign the yearbook, but that's not what this is.

She's been teaching for 20+ years.  She still teaches in Dallas, so her info isn't outdated. Yes, I'm old, but not all schools are doing this.

Yes, I'm old.  And yes, you're an asshole with no experience outside of your school.  You can go back to sucking cock and acting like be young and stupid makes you better than everyone else.  You've convinced me that asking isn't worth the trouble.
 
2014-03-20 12:53:51 AM  
big freaking deal. A stupid kid wanted to brag about his bedroom antics and thinks it should be worthy of the yearbook. Pull up your big girl panties, kid. I'm sure youre wearing them.
 
2014-03-20 07:35:55 AM  

JuggleGeek: I called a friend of mine who teaches high school in Dallas at Lake Highlands HS and asked her.


Or you could just a Google search on yearbook stories and see by all the how-tos that it's a pretty common practice.
 
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